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Offline Paladin Cecil

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« on: April 25, 2005, 11:47:23 pm »
Hey. What up everyone? I was at Sakura Con this year and while there, I found out about Kumoricon and am going to try to attend it this year. I've heard this convention's not as big as Sakura Con, but I've heard good things about it and am looking forward to attending. How many times have you guys attended it and what are your thoughts on it?

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2005, 02:48:22 am »
I have attended KumoriCon every year it has happened (so the past two years) and I loved every minute of it.  I highly recommend it.

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2005, 08:43:24 am »
I heard about the ifrst kumoricon but getting there wasn't possable with the time frame i had. I was planing to attend last year but my brother was getting married  in another state. I'm most defently ATTENDING this year.

btw may I ask why is it good or bad there isn't as many people? what exactly is it aobut alot of people that is important? programing all day long? lots of room parties? alot of programing(mroe then simply time)?

anyhow enjoy hope to meet you, *plug* stop by the room party i'll be thorwing :)
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2005, 09:48:27 am »
I heard about the first Kumoricon the monday AFTER the weekend it took place. I could have made it easily too. :(

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2005, 11:11:33 am »
i enjoy kcon's size being smaller than sakuracon's, because you can actually have a chance to meet and get to know people, and to find out what is offered in the way of smaller progamming activities (panels, workshop, contests, meet and greet locations), which frequently get overlooked by the masses at huge cons.

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2005, 11:23:51 am »
Last year was my first time at Kumori  and I loved it!! XD XD  The people there were really nice and friendly.  And they had a few interesting vendors there as well.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2005, 03:34:33 pm »
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i enjoy kcon's size being smaller than sakuracon's, because you can actually have a chance to meet and get to know people, and to find out what is offered in the way of smaller progamming activities (panels, workshop, contests, meet and greet locations), which frequently get overlooked by the masses at huge cons.

cecil and dustin, i'm looking forward to your next installments at fanfiction bedtime stories!


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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2005, 10:42:42 pm »
cecil and dustin, i'm looking forward to your next installments at fanfiction bedtime stories![/quote]

It'll be cool to attend as well. I'll try to come up with some new stories, too.

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2005, 04:27:04 am »
In my opinion, one of the things that I think really helped Kumoricon from the start was there were so many long term Sakura Con attendees.  We were able to really think about Sakura (get a TON of help from Isaac who was their con chair in 2001 and has held many other positions before he left for the Navy.  He helped us so much I almost started to wonder how he had time to still do his Sakura duties because he still had a very important role up there!).

When we did think about Sakura, we thought about what we personally liked about it (quite a bit) but we did think of things that we would like to see done differently.  That is not a dig against Sakura- HONEST- we were all brain storming from our own unique personal perspective-- what would be our own ideal?   (I was not involved very much at all at this time, just to be clear.  I'm not quite sure what I was waiting for other than since I was going to be involved heavily in cosplay, there wasn't much yet to do at that point and I only really knew most of the people by reputation.  I spent a long time going, 'Oh, I've seen you at Sakura, you live around here?'  It was in my head a lot to avoid being embarrassed.  When I'm not in a costume or on stage, I'm shy until I really know people or have an 'issue' with something that has happened.)  Then it was a matter of finding a place and a date, and then saying, "Let's go for it!"

I personally looked for little things I could do to make the congoers feel special.  If we couldn't get them an autograph session with Clamp, what could we do?  

I looked back to what cons used to be about a long time ago...watching a whole bunch of anime together with a group.  That's where the Live Action Sailor Moon Slumber Party came in for the first year.  It wasn't a bunch of random shows one after another, it was a series and people could either come for the whole night or wander in and out depending on interest.  It was informal, so commenting on a PG level was allowed.  I wore my "Star Wars Chicks" t shirt and Pink Hello Kitty Pajama Bottoms!  There was a mix of people who both loved and hated things like Sailor Moon, but both groups laughed at the same things in the show and laughed at the same comments.

Since we didn't have money for even US guests from far away, I looked into who were the most entertaining, anime knowledgeable people I could think of, and invited Baka Zoku to host the Cosplay.  They may only be from Seattle, but in my opinion, ANY con of ANY size in the country should be proud to invite the group as capital G Guests-- especially at the level that they have now reached.  They were great for us in 2003 and in 2005 (at Sakura), it's easy to see that they are even better.  Just because someone is from your neck of the woods does not mean they aren't as good or better than someone you have to fly across the country!

I also liked the idea of recognizing many Hall Cosplayers for their work and making the recognition visible.  That's where the ribbons for Hall Cosplay started.  Many were recognized and the other congoers could see the award ribbon hanging from the cosplayer's badge.  

One idea seemed stupid and juvenile, but it was fun!  I had picked up some stickers that looked like little first, second and third place ribbons and we used them for some of the things like DDR contests.  It was silly and kind of like something from elementary school, but from what I heard, the DDR players liked getting a blue (or what color they won) ribbon sticker added to their badges.  If your boss gave that to you as a reward at work, it would most likely seem pathetic, but something about being around a bunch of people who are so into the same things just brings out some of the best parts about what it meant to be a kid.  

Though I would love to see more and more cons do Hall Cosplay the way we did in 2003 and 2004, I think the sticker thing is an example of something that was so much fun at a 400 person first year con, but would seem kind of cheesy from a 5000 person 7-year-old convention- bringing my comments back around to the topic of the smaller vs larger con.  ("I'm the best DDR player out of 50 people in the contest and my prize is a STICKER!?!?").  

I could be wrong on that, but I think the feeling of a bunch of crazy Otaku have rented out a hotel to have a party made it feel like it was everyone's party and everyone was important.  Admission was (and still is) inexpensive, but there seems to be the feeling of -they need all of our admission dollars to pay for the party.  For 2004, we did our best to keep that same "everyone is part of the show and important" feeling.  I'm sure something along those lines will be going through our heads for 2005 as well.  I know as long as I'm involved (and this year it's only on a very small level), one of my goals will always be to make sure I can help as many attendees as possible go away with the same feelings the people who enjoyed the con when it was only 400 people had.  

No matter how big we get, I hope we are always seen as a bunch of anime fans who just keep being able to put on a bigger and bigger party each year (and even get to the point where it gets to be known as such a fun party, we can get some famous people to attend), and as much fun as it is to see and maybe even talk to the famous people, it's still mostly about the con-goers.
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2005, 08:03:30 am »
it dosen't feel like its a small con tho, i know kcon dosen't have as many people as sakura, but try telling you self this is a small con when your cramed in a 8-people elevator with 7 otaku's in it + 3 normies and one very drunk woman asking 3 diffrent Links, what game they 're from........
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2005, 08:15:25 am »
I'm glad to see that there is someone coming to Kumori-Con from Sakura-Con. But, I've been participating in the main event since Kumori-Con opened, and doing other things that envolve cosplay and performing.

From my stand point, Kumori hosts a much better Cosplay than Sakura-Con does. It's much friendlier and the people who run it are more understanding to a person's needs and fears. I almost dropped out of the cosplay at Kumori-Con 2004 because I was so scared. But, I talked with the Cosplay Director (Sailor Naboo) and, well, she helped me get over my fear and perform with my cosplay group.

I guess maybe I'm more attached to Kumori-Con as a convention, because the people there are more intune to a person than I feel Sakura-Con is. I'm not knocking Sakura-Con, but at 2005, the cosplay group I am part of, did not want to go first. We were asking them no in the Green Room, but up we went first, anyways.

But, glad to see that you're coming to Kumori-Con, there are a lot more little things that make a person happy. Sailor Moon Slumber Pary, I've got some interesting stories about that from first year. Fanfiction Bedtime Stories. Kareoke. Hallway Cosplay... It's so fun. Can't wait to see you there! ^_~

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2005, 10:27:00 am »
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From my stand point, Kumori hosts a much better Cosplay than Sakura-Con does. It's much friendlier and the people who run it are more understanding to a person's needs and fears. I almost dropped out of the cosplay at Kumori-Con 2004 because I was so scared. But, I talked with the Cosplay Director (Sailor Naboo) and, well, she helped me get over my fear and perform with my cosplay group.


I'm honored I could make you feel that way.  I was hoping to bring that same 'touch' to Sakura Con this year, but we had some creative differences back in December and I stepped down to give them plenty of time to find a replacement.  It was really for the best, as I had to not finish winter term at school because of an illness that isn't completely over.

Amanda Penrose is going to be in the role of Cosplay Director this year for Kumoricon, and I know she will do an amazing job.  She's been Cosplaying longer than I have!  What's even funnier is that she was in the very first Cosplay group I put together at Sakura Con in 2001 when we got best costume.  Since I had never been to an anime con before, I depended on her advice quite a bit in email that year since she had coplayed at Sakura Con before!  We are both from the Eugene area, but didn't meet in person until the actual Con!  She is a sweetheart as well, and if I didn't happen to be older, I bet it would have been her in the role I had the first two years with me as her helper (if she wanted me).

I'm going to be there in a much more limited role, and one of the things I hope to be able to do is spend more time doing is the kind of thing you talked about for other areas of the con as well as cosplay.  In short, keeping my eyes out for people who may need extra encouragement, or maybe just someone to talk with, the use of a cell phone or any random thing I can do to take care of a congoer, panelist, staff or even a guest.  Last year I even hemmed someone's costume for them since I had my surger with me (I've been banned from ever bring any kind of sewing machine to any convention again though! --Long story).

Cosplaying in the competition can really seem scary, but you saw how nice the audience is!  There is kind of a secret about that though.  That's not the way it is everywhere in the country.  I've read horror stories about the audience yelling out things making fun of competitors (certain midwest conventions have really bad reputations for this).  Sakura Con, on the other hand, has always had such a positive audience!  (I haven't made it to Sakura cosplay since it was switched to the afternoon, but I know this was the case for 2001, 2002 and 2003).  I think it's a Pacific Northwest thing; we're nice here!  When Kumoricon started, I wanted to make sure that we set our own standard that at our con--just like Sakura, positive audiences only!  It never had to be used, but there was a zero tolerance policy for any heckling at Cosplay. We had a plan in place to make sure the cosplayers were treated with respect.  The MCs knew about this and they were ready to nip it in the bud if there were even any negative murmurs about an act.   The MCs would have been gentle about it..."be supportive, these aren't professionals, they are people volunteering to put on a show for you"... that kind of thing but in their own words.  If it continued, the people involved would have been removed.  If it started out with more than just a murmur, they would have been removed without a warning.  I can't imagine our attitude about the respect of the cosplayers ever changing.  There are too many of us on staff who have the same strong opinion about this!

I'm looking forward to seeing you again!  Thanks again for your comments!

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