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Offline Radien

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« on: December 11, 2005, 04:30:05 am »
There are tons of different factions within an anime convention. We even see some spillover from hobbies such as Go and kanji calligraphy. However, it's easy to guess that there's a healthy amount of stuff that some of us just aren't interested in.

So, what parts of the stereotypical list of "Otaku Interests" do you hold no interest in? You can name typical American otaku interests OR typical Japanese otaku interests. :)

I'll start off:

1. I'm not really into miniatures or figurines. I've bought a couple as convention souvenirs, but I largely don't appreciate the point of them. I'd rather have media. This really sets me apart from Japanese fandom; figurines are REALLY big over there.

2. I'm not terribly interested in hentai. I admit I'm no innocent, but I've never put it on my list of convention interests.

3. Mecha. I could take it or leave it. I don't see what the big deal is with big robots. I honestly haven't gotten excited about a big robot since I was a kid collecting transformers.

4. Lastly, military stuff. I only very recently realized there's actually a military otaku faction in America, but that's probably because they don't  have any particular reliance on anime for their hobby. I met some military otaku at the last Kumori Con, and they were nice guys, but my interest shared was zero.

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2005, 12:23:37 pm »
I've got a few things.

1. (I agree with Raiden) I don't enjoy watching anime that revolves around mechs. I just don't think it's very entertaining.

Don't shoot me for this one..
2. I don't like watching anime in Japanese. Subtitles can be very confusing.

That's all. ^^;


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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2005, 12:25:19 pm »
I'm really not into...

Gundam.
Giant robots never got my attention. They just... didn't.

But what's weird is I love making the robots? Like the grage kits? o_o I really want to build and paint one. Only paint it like, crazy colors. Rainbow.

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2005, 01:09:09 pm »
I don't really like cons that only have "popular" stuff in the dealers room. I like finding new things, and a con is a good place to find stuff obscure.

I agree on the hentai thing.

And htere are WAY too many mech shows.

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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2005, 05:11:23 pm »
Wow, I don't think this kind of topic has ever been made before.   :shock:

I'm not into very many fighting-type anime.  They're okay but it starts to become predictable that there will always be a tournament.  Then there's also how the fights tend to drag on to the point of being ridiculous.  "I'll unleash my ultimate power."  "You did that already."  "Really?  Well, I've obtained a new level of power, so there."  "How long will it take to power up?"  "About 5 episodes."

I'm not into anime and actually other types of media that's really bloody.  No specific reason; they're just not my cup of tea.

I'm kinda indifferent about mechs.  I think there are some good mech-shows but hard to find.  IMHO, I think if you don't focus entirely on mechs, the story can pass off as good.

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2005, 08:40:40 pm »
I'm not really into Gundam. The only mecha series I enjoyed was Eva.
I'm also not a big fan of Sports or Fighting anime/manga.
Also series that drag on way too long. I don't HATE them, but I find them boring. Like Inuyasha, Pokemon, etc. They start getting way to predictable after a while.

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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2005, 11:43:47 pm »
I like Gundam and all, but I am honestly not that interested in a $300.00 super perfect grade model kit. Especially because you have to put it together, and if you screw up, that money is gone forever.

Watching an episode of Genshiken where they put those together made me realize my dislike for the model kits. However, I do like action figures and resin statues (I have a few of those statues, from Tenchi Muyo, Please Teacher, and Fist of The North Star).


Japanese food. I am an Otaku, but I honestly like Chinese food more than Japanese food. I dislike sushi, but I also admit I have only tried it a few times, and it could have been prepared wrong, so I am still open for that one.


I also don't have a particular liking to figurines. They brake to easily, and it can get very frustrating to keep track of them. Also, the whole Bottle Cap thing. The only Bottle Caps I have ever collected where in Resident Evil 4, and thats a video game, so I am not sure I should even count that.

I'm not sure if I should count the next one, but I am gonna say it anyways. I dislike people who claim to be Otaku because its supposed to be the "in" think now. I've been one for over ten years, I remember the times when you could get either subbed or dubbed videos, before bilingual dvds. Back when Viz was completely cornering the market with their Ranma videos and all of their manga, and back when it took around 13 hours to download a single fansubbed Sailor Moon episode. In Real Media format no less!

Now there are tons of companies that do anime and manga, and because it has more media attention now, people are sprouting up, claiming to be otaku because its "cool". I dislike it, and I find it annoying. I hope something else comes along so these shallow people can move on to that soon and leave our fandom alone.

Thats all I got for now.

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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2005, 01:12:17 pm »
Very interesting topic indeed. =)

Let's see...

Yaoi. I am a HUGE fan of bish, I collect anime and manga with beautiful male characters. I collect art of beautiful male characters. And just because a male character is bish, doesn't mean he likes men. And it especially doesn't mean he wants to get with his friends in that same series. Some fanworks twist things in a bad way! I mean Roy and Edward? Sanzo and Goku? Kenshin and Sanosuke? What's up with that nonesense?? LOL!

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2005, 01:41:11 am »
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Also series that drag on way too long. I  don't HATE them, but I find them boring. Like Inuyasha, Pokemon, etc. They start getting way to predictable after a while.

Personally, I'd call this more of a "preference"... just because you generally don't see fans at a convention banding together according to how long they like their series to run.  However, I can easily see how that ties in with your other dislikes. Shounen anime and certain other genres, when made for Japanese television, do sometimes tend to go on and on.

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I like Gundam and all, but I am honestly not that interested in a $300.00 super perfect grade model kit. Especially because you have to put it together, and if you screw up, that money is gone forever.

$300...?!?  :shock: Crap, I could could make four cosplays for that price! Or buy 6 brand new RPGs... or a boxed DVD set of most any anime out there. Yeah, most of otakudom is pretty steeped in consumerism... It's to be expected, but there's only so broke you can go. <.<; That's another reason I'm not into figurines and models and cels...

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Yaoi. I am a HUGE fan of bish, I collect anime and manga with beautiful male characters. I collect art of beautiful male characters. And just because a male character is bish, doesn't mean he likes men. And it especially doesn't mean he wants to get with his friends in that same series. Some fanworks twist things in a bad way! I mean Roy and Edward? Sanzo and Goku? Kenshin and Sanosuke? What's up with that nonesense?? LOL!

I agree, although I find it very difficult to say so in public without getting the Death Glare from any nearby fanficcers. ^^;; It's difficult sometimes, because I've seen fanfics by some very talented writers who nevertheless were quite into the idea of portraying heterosexual characters in gay relationships, something I can't quite understand.

There's a limit to how much I should say about it, though: the fact that I'm not into it, doesn't mean others can't be. However, if it's a debate about "what's canon?", I tend not to hold back. ;)

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Wow, I don't think this kind of topic has ever been made before.   :shock:

What, really?... Well, if not, then it was high time someone did! :)

You see, personally, I've always held a number of interests that just happen to conflict with the anime-loving mainstream. I didn't plan it that way. I just have an infallible ability to fall in love with series that don't end up being #1 hits in America, like Scrapped Princess. I'm into fantasy and some sci-fi, but not big mechs. I love RPGs, but not really Final Fantasy. And I don't particularly like Naruto.

Well hey, it's okay if people like things I don't like. I just don't want people speaking for me, y'know? :? Like, you can't assume someone likes Evangelion, JUST because they like anime. Or Naruto, or yaoi/yuri, or Final Fantasy, or hentai. :P
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2005, 11:22:14 am »
for me i dont have acess to all the new anime so its like talking to some one "yes i love bebop: other person "me too have you seen ******** anime? : uh no, or i'll have seen 4 episodes of an anime and and its hard enough for me to keep real peopls names strait let alone a anime shows cast (sakaki i want to be sakaki) it doesen't make me any less of an otaku
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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2005, 11:53:04 am »
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I like Gundam and all, but I am honestly not that interested in a $300.00 super perfect grade model kit. Especially because you have to put it together, and if you screw up, that money is gone forever.

I wouldn't be surprised by a model with that kind of price tag.  In Shinjuku, Japan, there was one store I went to a lot where, among its 4 stories, one of them was dedicated entirely to models and model kits.

I think I forgot to mention a few others.  I've never exactly understood the whole figurine thing.  If it's a character that you're a big fan of then I can understand or you think the design looks really cool (and it's cheap) then I can understand.  But when it costs over $50 or even $30 then I would ask why get it.

And has anyone else seen those pillows or whatever that have characters printed on them (usually in swimsuits)?  Somehow those things scare me when I think of what people could do with those things.  Blame Tenchi GXP for putting the idea in my head (if you've seen some of the early episodes, you know what scene I'm refering to).

Sorry, I'm in semi-rant mode...
Regarding the "fights that drag on" comment I made earlier, I think it would be an interesting idea for an AMV if someone where to compact the whole battle with Frieza and Goku.  Why?  Frieza said Nammec (spelling?) would explode in 5 minutes yet they take forever to finish fighting.  So what if someone were to compact the entire fight into 5 minutes with a song that lasted about five minutes?  

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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2005, 03:39:15 pm »
I'm not really into anime much anymore... :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

I have been completely swept away by HK film, the YuGiOh card game, and tv shows like '24' and 'LOST'.  Still, I enjoy anime from time to time and I love putting on the Salem events and going to the convention, but I just don't have the excitement for anime I once had.  :(
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2005, 08:57:32 pm »
anything with boy on boy action = no

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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2005, 10:47:22 pm »
Radien - To be perfectly honest, I do buy cels. But only select ones. I have about six from Tenchi Muyo (All Ryoko :D) and five or six from Guyver (a couple Guyver I, and a couple Guyver III). Thats about all I have in terms of cels. I guess the reason I bought those is because I like the feeling I get from being able to say I own part of it. I wonder if that makes any sense or not?

Rarnom - I am a huge fan of Lost aswell. I love good television, which is probably why I am still waiting for a John Doe season one box set. :(

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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2005, 05:43:47 am »
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("Dammit, Sheik is NOT male!")

And on that note... a handful of webcomics from DA relating to that very topic.  (Not my artwork)
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15386698/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15387395/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/16768046/
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23784862/


*LOL*... Okay, this person may be in favor of male Sheik, but she totally got it down in that third comic. ;) It gets my thumbs up.

The second one confused me, though.

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Radien - To be perfectly honest, I do buy cels. But only select ones. I have about six from Tenchi Muyo (All Ryoko :D) and five or six from Guyver (a couple Guyver I, and a couple Guyver III). Thats about all I have in terms of cels. I guess the reason I bought those is because I like the feeling I get from being able to say I own part of it. I wonder if that makes any sense or not?

Oh, I understand. It's just... well... I could say that I'm not into the whole "packrat mentality," but the truth is that I am. Badly. However, instead of WANTING to get more stuff just for the sake of having it, it's more like I already HAVE all this stuff I don't need, from my past and childhood, that I have failed to throw out only because I have a hard time doing so. So in truth... I'm bad enough as it is. I don't need encouragement from new hobbies. :shock:


....Oh, two other things I'm "not into" came to mind.

5. The "underage" thing. Teenagers can be attractive, but definitely not before age 16, bare minimum. :P No pedo for me, thanks.

6. Maids. They seem to be part of some Japanese fantasy. Many anime series and even video games (even Soul Calibur 3...!) will often use any excuse to fit them in. Sure, they're cute, but what's with this obsession...?
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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2005, 10:29:47 am »
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*LOL*... Okay, this person may be in favor of male Sheik, but she totally got it down in that third comic. ;) It gets my thumbs up.

The second one confused me, though.


The artist does a lot of Super Smash Brothers Melee comics so she often does crossovers including Young Link and Adult Link.

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6. Maids. They seem to be part of some Japanese fantasy. Many anime series and even video games (even Soul Calibur 3...!) will often use any excuse to fit them in. Sure, they're cute, but what's with this obsession...?

After being over there when a sort of "Maid Boom" started (3 mangas about maids came out while I was there), personally, I think it has to do with the someone-serving-you thing, but I'm not sure.  I just remember watching on TV over there a small piece on what was in Akihabara.  They showed a Maid Cafe where you're greeted by maids saying "Welcome Master."  You can also buy key chains with the maids' pictures on it, even talk to one of the maids for 10 minutes but it'll cost you.

I can "kinda" understand why but, yeah, if I knew someone who was obsessed with it I would still ask them why.

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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2005, 11:17:31 pm »
I never really liked mecha anime. I did really enjoy Evangelion, and I'm totally in love with Escaflowne.

Military stuff, I never really liked, but I like German WWII type stuff in more of a fashion point of view.

As for hentai, it's not really my thing. But I do have a strang fascination with Lolicon, but nothing that involves rape.

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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2005, 04:33:29 pm »
Im really not that into.......Anime in general

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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2006, 03:34:18 pm »
I'm glad to see that mechs aren't that interesting to anyone else either.  I remember watching Kannazuki No Miko and thinking, "The shoujo-ai is cute (at the beginning), but the mechs are kinda boring."

Dubbing is gross.

Para Para Paradise.  I know it's popular, but I just think that DDR for hands looks kinda stupid.  Plus, it doesn't give you the workout that DDR does.

Not too into hentai.

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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2006, 04:12:54 pm »
I'm not a fan of yaoi, yuri, or hentai

I'm also not too big on the whole mecha thing. It kinda bores me, to be honest

another thing would be the fact that all of the dealers have the same stuff.... c'mon people, get creative and introduce us to some more awesome varieties (not to say that naruto, fma, etc. doesn't kick ass, but it just gets kinda old seeing the same stuff)....
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2006, 04:49:14 pm »
hmmmm... i dunno...i guess the only thing i don't take an imidiate likeing to would be anime i perfer manga...and people that cosplay that really generic person aka inu-yasha,naruto,fma people
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2006, 05:52:37 pm »
Hmm... Nice subject.

I'm not entirely too fond of the "popular" animes. Whilst I know about them when they're unpopular, I kinda lose interest in them when they hit mainstream.

J-Rock... I'm not saying the music is bad, but I have a problem with the cosplayers. For me, there are always these J-Rock cosplayers that decide they want to glare at the anime cosplayers like 'What the hell are you doing here? This is our con!' It annoys me. There are always those J-Rock cosplayers at every anime convention I go to... Keyword, ANIME convention. It's really just a personal thing.

Hardcore hentai. I hate the stuff. I saw one thing and was like.... o...0 *scared for life* Anyways, I don't mind softcore hentai of any kind. But, the evil rape stuff.... That just gets to me.

Too many of one character at a convention. Yes, I do know that it will happen, but still. It's annoying. I.E. I was hunting a certian cosplayer at Sakura-Con 2006, and I lost him in a crowd of Bleach cosplayers, I never saw him again. Which made me really sad.

I hate seeing the same thing in the Dealer's Room. It gets really boring. I am a Sailor Moon fanatic. I will hunt through a Dealer's Room to try and find anything of the anime thatt I can. But, when I'm crowded with Naruto, FMA, Bleach, etc. stuff, it gets annoying. Yes, those animes are popular, but damn, I've seen the same things over and over for about the past five booths! >.<

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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2006, 07:28:56 pm »
I'm not into Yaoi... Nor will I ever fully comprehend why so many girls are into it... Or guys for that matter. Not that I'm against it or anything, I just don't like it.

J-Rock/J-Pop, yeah, they're good... But I still prefer good ol' American rock over it anyday of the week.

I HATE fanboys/fangirls... Those people actually get me to dislike animes. Inuyasha and Naruto are ones. I liked Naruto alot and still sorta do, but the fans are swamping me... This goes with Kingdom Hearts as well >.>

There's probably alot more that I can't think of at the time, so I may edit this post later or just make a new post later.
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2006, 08:36:12 pm »
well so far i've gotten that we dislike

~over popular things
~mecha
~Hentai/hentai yaoi yuri
~and the same thind....
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2006, 09:31:04 pm »
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i perfer manga...

You are now my friend.  ^_^ (Also prefers manga over most anime)

Hmm, I know I posted in this thread but I guess that was before the system hiccup.

I don't like anime that have long tournaments and fights being the main focus of the story.  ... actually I need to word that a little better.  Tournaments and fights are okay as long as they don't drag on forever.  Example: Dragon Ball and DBZ.  The first tournament in DB was good.  The fights are usually 1 or 2 episodes long; nice, short, and quick.  In DBZ, the fight with Vegeta was alright, at least they kept it reasonable.  The fight with Frieza... don't get me started.  I skipped 2 weeks of it and didn't miss a thing.

Mechas I find okay.  I don't hate them but they're not my cup of tea.  Every now and then you do find a good one that stands out.

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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2006, 09:35:20 pm »
i just think fighting and talking don't mix well. i mean a cool fight scene is cool but dbz prolonged fighting i agree are unesecary(i can't spell T_T)
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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2006, 09:40:57 pm »
I'm proud to say i am one of those people who likes the boyxboy stuff...though not when it goes over board... I've even bought my far share of Kenshinx Sano and Royx Hughes but RoyxEd = Pedo and Harry potter yaoi = just no not my cup of tea....

As far as stuff I don't like.... Yaoi fangirls...ya know, the type who you walk up to and they go on and on about how they were meant to be Though most of the people i see seem to do this about Hiei and Kurama...which is a pairing that just irks me...(mind you I have a thing for RoyxHughes but I know that it's just for fun...god knows they weren't "meant to be" 'cause we all know Hughes would never abandon his dear elicia-chan)

I don't mind mech anime as long as it doesn't over take the series...I like my human interaction thank you...

Main Characters who only whine, cry and moan *cough Shinji*

People who claim to be Otaku in general.... okay...this is mostly about people in my school who think it's cool to throw a plush snorlax at the back of my head during psychology >_>;;; These people know who they are...Well I guess not everyone who says "I'm an Otaku" but the kind of people who look down on you if you don't know some minor detail about some series no one knows of...

Looking back on this i see that I'm a pretty unfriendly person... o_o;;;
basically as far as fandoms...too many people take it too far...I mean it's just a hobby in the end right?

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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2006, 09:41:43 pm »
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i just think fighting and talking don't mix well. i mean a cool fight scene is cool but dbz prolonged fighting i agree are unesecary(i can't spell T_T)

Agreed.

Example:
Goku: Frieza is gaining power.  What am I going to do now?  Wait!  Maybe if I gather enough strength from everything on the planet, I'll be able to defeat him.  But that would require time to concentrate, to focus, and then to form the en*SLAP*  What hit me?!

Frieza: You were standing there for 10 minutes.  What did you think I would do?

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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2006, 09:55:28 pm »
i like the idea of bwahahaha i'm evil so i can just talk for 20 min while you think of a way to kill me bwahahaha i'm so evil :roll:
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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2006, 10:08:36 pm »
isn't it weird when you've known an anime for like 2 yrs. before it's released on cartoon network, then when you go back to school you see all of these people wearing the merchandise?... that's what urks me about newbies, but then again we all had to start out somewhere... just wish that they wouldn't make so obvious in them being new... it's like tourists in las vegas.... ANNOYING
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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2006, 10:47:28 pm »
Plenty of stuff I'm just not into...

-Para Para.  Sorry, not a guy thing IMO.
-Gundam.  I've watched thousands of episodes of various shows of all genres, but not a single episode of Gundam whatever.  It just didn't appeal.
-Figurines.  

That's really it...

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« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2006, 11:31:14 pm »
Not a fan of mechs,

Not a fan gay fan fics with strait characters but I do like the real deal.

I am totally a fan of Gravitation.

I am not a fan of Excel Saga in english yuck!!

I enjoy some dub some sub it just a matter of how the characters come accross.
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« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2006, 12:20:24 am »
Speaking of dubbing...

I'm not into people who go to the ends of the earth to gripe, groan and complain about dubbing. I'm not really into sub (though watching animes with English dubbing and English subtitles actually can help you understand more of the series or what's going on.) Not EVERYONE will take their time to learn a language for a hobby, or will want to sit there and watch something with subs. And, while English dubs aren't always the best... The Japanese don't get away scott free... All I need to say is "Goku in the Japanese version of DBZ" and people should know what I mean.
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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2006, 12:57:19 am »
@Eternal Yamcha
I agree completely with what you say!  its really annoying when people start complaing and blasting something when they barely watch it or cut them some slacks(sometimes, its NOT the dubbing companies fault you know)
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« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2006, 12:45:31 pm »
@Eternal Yamcha & Seraph

Dubbing isn't always that bad. For me, it's the only way that I can watch certian animes, due to my lack of money and time to "obtain" them. What I don't like the horrible done dubbing, i.e. Sailor Moon.... Enough said. I've always thought that to really understand anime, you needed to see how the Americans protray the anime you love so much.

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« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2006, 04:07:48 pm »
No... I am for dubbing and I prefer to watch most animes with English dubbing. Sure, there are a number of animes that were dubbed in English that aren't that good (*coughs* Naruto *cough cough*) but it's just zounds more convienent for me.

As for your theory, it's only partially true. It's best to watch the raw footage... But for some people, that is nearly impossible. But watching the English version can help you see the series from a different angle. To really understand a series that you love, you need to go up and beyond the average person. You can't just give the series a passing thought, you need to really delve deep into as many aspects of the series that you can.

Of course, I'm talking from my own Evangelion experi-ance.
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« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2006, 10:28:59 am »
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Im really not that into.......Anime in general


yeah i think i know what you mean... i was just at sakura con... and i remember looking through the schedual of what anime was showing (this is relevent i swear, im sure you arnt talking about watching anime specificly) but i never once during the whole 3 days went into any of the 3 viewing rooms to watch anime... and i havent for a few years except to watch 'otaku no video' with a good friend of mine... (it was soooo insperational)

i did however sit in for a veiwing panel for tofu records they showed music videos... it was pretty cool singign along with people i didnt know to our favorite j-rock and j-pop songs...

but anyways, i seriously notice there are too many types of peope who like anime with far too many difrences to ever say 'THIS IS WHAT AN OTAKU/ANIME FAN/SHINJINRUI LIKE OR DISLIKES'  but i think for the most part ppl will always like certain things

such as:

pretty things (like bishonen either in anime or in real life)

hardcore action (like advent children, or boffing out in the back yard)

and

person to person interactin (either at cons, anime stores, or in manga and anime)



anyways, to keep on topic... i'd have to say

i dont like gundam but i do like some robot games (like xenogears... i really liked killing god! it was sooo awesome)
i dont like haveing to deal with ppl who fight about subed and dubed anime
i dont like sitting and discussing anime series (they do that a lot in genshiken)
i dont buy hentai (well i did once but that was only to sell to minors)
i dont like figurines
i dont have an obssesion with ramen and pocky (i've seen people almost get scurvy from this kind of diet)


but i'll also tell you what i do like

i like meeting people
i like dancing to music from japan and video games,
i love japanese clothing
i like martial arts
i love speaking japanese
i like playing awesome games (like resident evil 4, xenogears, dirge of cerebus (yeah my friend pirated it) final fantasy 12 (pirated that too) gekito ninja taisen 4)
i like naruto (and theres nothing you can do about it, but then again i like teenage mutant ninja turtles before naruto)
i like cosplaying
i like drinking at anime conventions!!!! hahahahahahaha! (except when ppl pass out in hallways... thats not really cool)

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« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2006, 12:10:35 pm »
I don't like shounen manga or anime. They seem very similar to me. Things like Love Hina that play off of the same jokes over and over, series that have very unrealistic situations. It just seems like the romance section of the anime-world is the section that (regrettably) suffers the most from unrealistic situations.

Give me some romantic manga like Nana! But stop throwing predictable mary-janes at me.


I don't like fanfiction. Period. I like reading what the author of a series writes, and I don't resent finficcers in any way, I just don't like fanfiction at all.


I don't like posters. There aer tons of posters and wall scrolls at conventions, but my room is so small! Besides, I actually try and decorate my room (like paint the walls and keep it look nice and tidy) and posters just clash so badly. (Heheh...I'm such a hypocrite though....I have this bigass poster of Escaflowne on the inside of my closet door).


Now....this one will most likely incur the wrath of otakus and lesser forms of artists....but I really don't like it when people get extremely otaku-ish. Let me elaborate on what I mean:

I'm in no way disturbed or turned off by people who are passionate about what they read. Heck, I'm cosplaying with a friend this year! But it gets taken so far by some people. When people get completely obbsessed with anything it annoys me, and anime is no different.

When a tall and skinny zit-faced white guy is following me around and rattling on about every random japanese thing he knows....its really pathetic. I just wanna grab his shoulders and scream in his face "You're not japanese! Get over it!".

I guess I'm not explaining myself very well....ah well. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that it's hard to swallow when someone won't shut up about anime. Extreme otakus = big turnoff.
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« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2006, 04:17:46 pm »
Yes...

Mecha should DIE!! They arent interesting to me at all. It makes me sad to that the new anime on adult swim is going to be one... I have nothing to watch n Saturdays now that FMA finished.

No big on Hentai either. Yuck. Dont need it.

I also dont like the animes like Yugioh, pokemon, or anyting that is centered around dueling with cards or nothing. Also animes that are ALL action and nothing but, with like no story. Or animes like (dont kill me...) DBZ where a freaking fight can last 10 epsidoes in a row.

Or the really cutsey anime where they are all in chibi form dancing around and have attacks like "sugar love pony express" Bleh!! *dies*

And I agree with the thing about the dealers room only having stuff from the popular animes. I mean, they have to have that cause the majority likes it and your there to make money and sell... but it is nice to see merchandise from animes that areant super huge.

THats all I can think of.


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« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2006, 06:42:29 pm »
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And I agree with the thing about the dealers room only having stuff from the popular animes. I mean, they have to have that cause the majority likes it and your there to make money and sell... but it is nice to see merchandise from animes that areant super huge.



What happens if my booth has nothing from a popular anime and just generic fun stuff?    Actually the only things I know I will have from a specific anime are Wolf's Rain Collars and Naruto Head bands but the point of each is I would also be offering to acid etch customers names or self made symbols on the spot

I'll just be there to make the vacation sort of pay for it self or break even
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« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2006, 11:21:43 pm »
I guess I gotta say it:
I like Mecha.

That's not to say that I like ALL mecha, but I like SOME mecha.

I don't follow the latest thing to come out of Japan, and I don't like feeling like some kind of loser because I'm not following Precure or Fate/Stay Night.  I don't dig the whole Yaoi thing.  I'm not into video games, or DDR, or card games.  I don't like anime that focuses too much on a game, like Yu-Gi-Oh (however, I totally dig Hikaru no Go).  I'm not into figures or plushies (models, I'm divided on. I bought a Master Grade Gouf Custom (Gundam: 08th MS Team) at Sakuracon.  It's my first model, and one of my fave Mobile Suits, so I decided to give it a try).

I don't like the Dub-Sub debate- AT ALL.  

I used to think cosplay was silly, and even a little sad.  However, my opinion on that has been changing for some time; I've even pondered whether I should cosplay at Kumoricon, and who as.  Another thing that's changed is my opinion of the word "Otaku".  I used to despise the word, having heard how bad the word's viewed to the average Japanese person.  However, I now like the idea of having a word to identify us, and it wouldn't be the first word to have it's meaning tweaked when introduced to another language.
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Mecha should DIE!! They arent interesting to me at all.
Well, some of us aren't that fond of Sailor Moon either.
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Or the really cutsey anime where they are all in chibi form dancing around and have attacks like "sugar love pony express" Bleh!! *dies*
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And I agree with the thing about the dealers room only having stuff from the popular animes. I mean, they have to have that cause the majority likes it and your there to make money and sell... but it is nice to see merchandise from animes that areant super huge.
The sad thing is, I'd bet that if there were just one table specializing in hard-to-find stuff, he/she could make a nice tidy sum for his/herself.  At Sakuracon this year I was seeing too much of the same stuff on different tables, especially Bleach and Naruto.
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« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2006, 11:40:55 pm »
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The sad thing is, I'd bet that if there were just one table specializing in hard-to-find stuff, he/she could make a nice tidy sum for his/herself.  At Sakuracon this year I was seeing too much of the same stuff on different tables, especially Bleach and Naruto.



Please do define hard to find.  And would a Naruto Head band in leather and steel that said "Insert your name hear" be a hard to find item.   Have you ever thought of making up your own Disco Village emblam
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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2006, 12:43:44 pm »
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When a tall and skinny zit-faced white guy is following me around and rattling on about every random japanese thing he knows....its really pathetic. I just wanna grab his shoulders and scream in his face "You're not japanese! Get over it!".

I guess I'm not explaining myself very well....ah well. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that it's hard to swallow when someone won't shut up about anime. Extreme otakus = big turnoff.

funny thing is i dont consider this extream otaku ness thats newbi annyoing cat girl (even if its a guy) action
extream otaku should be more of a com-plament, not "i know this  let me cram it down your throat"=cat girl
extream
well i enjoy anime so i studied japanses for a year, to understand the langue better
the second has an air of respectablity
i dont know if this makes sence here i go again
having to give a perswation speach so doing on on the event of a anime convetion to edugcate the pubic about the fun stuff there
taking somthing you would have to do anyway and giving it a anime twist
because its something you love, not talking to hear your self blow air
once again not sure if that makes sence
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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2006, 12:15:32 am »
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having to give a perswation speach so doing on on the event of a anime convetion to edugcate the pubic about the fun stuff there
taking somthing you would have to do anyway and giving it a anime twist
because its something you love, not talking to hear your self blow air
once again not sure if that makes sence


Thank you. Yes, that does make sense. Perhaps studying and repeating the language is not what annoys me, but rather it is the delivery in which it is given. Any form of genuine passion for a subject is naturally attractive, contagious and persuasive. However, obsession is a sign of mental instability, it makes me uncomfortable and is a big turn off. It is good to make that clear distinction. So here's my revision:

Japanese (the language and the culture) = very yes

having a complete fixation on said language and culture, to the point of questioning a person's capacity to think on other things = big turn off
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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2006, 07:26:39 am »
I'm not a huge fan of:

Mecha
The old school animes like akira or speed racer
Animes with lots of gore or just too many action scenes
Hentai
Animes that have say 2D characters and 3D backgrounds.. it's like pick one or the other..

Hmm and some dubbed animes that have been butched with waaay too much slang added into the scripts, that is why I don't watch most of the animes on television.

That is all I can think of for now.

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« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2006, 04:53:03 pm »
Im not really into those depressing anime ie. Lain. The whole Im too dark and life sux thing is just too emo. And Lain just had too many ppl killing themselves or drugging up because life sucked.

I however am proud to say I LOVE MECH ANIME! Vandred, Gundams, Evangelion (still kinda dark for my taste). I just get a rush from the gun fights, the flying, and all around badassness. I even like the more political sides of the gundam series.

As for hentai? Meh I'll watch it but its got to be more fan service. More along the lines of a series with some adult content. And even then its got to be "normal" none of that alien tentacle thing. Thats just gross.


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« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2006, 06:02:01 pm »
-dubbed anime
-sports anime/manga
-FURRIES. I'm not talking Felicia.  I'm talking FULL-OUT fur costumes.  Freaks me out.  Ever since I was a kid!  I used to RUN from Fred Bear, it's just so creepy!
-generic ninja cosplay -_- Yeah, you have a T-shirt on your head.  No, it is not a cosplay XD
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« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2006, 07:31:18 pm »
some other things that I don't like would be
-using the word baka in every other sentence like your fluent in japanese or something. If you're really so cool, why don't you actually hold an intelligent conversation? .... >.< ouch
-the company 4-kids or whatever it's called.... 'nuff said
-pronoucing a name reeeaaaaalllly bad... I know that that sounds extreme okatu-ish, but c'mon... saSUke? inuWasha?naruDo? .... and yes, I HAVE heard those.
-scary OBSESSIVE otaku... scenario
"I JUST LUUUV SASUKE *drools*, I WATCH LIKE EVERY SINGLE EPISODE THAT HAS HIM IN IT DAILY *annoying girlish squeal*!!! I ALSO KNOW HOW MANY TIMES HE APPEARS IN THE ANIME... YES YES, I'VE COUNTED- IF HE WERE REAL, I'D TAKE SOME OF HIS HAIR AND MAKE IT INTO A VOODOO DOLL*starts foaming at the mouth*- etc. etc...... yeah, now do you see my point?... um ... please cease your insanity for the sake of mankind T__T ... (and yes, I might've exaggerated a bit, but you know what I mean) XD

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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2006, 11:13:03 pm »
dislikes ...

- underage anime girls with big breasts. you're ******** me, right?

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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2006, 04:18:18 pm »
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dislikes ...

- underage anime girls with big breasts. you're **** me, right?


XD

- To add on to that - JAILBAIT @ CONS dressed in really revealing outfits.  I am soooo utterly apalled that parents would allow their young girl to dress like that!  I saw a few at Sakuracon and about DIED.
- anime with boobs that are just SURREAL.  There's this one . . . gah, but the chicks boobs DEAD SERIOUSLY are 3 or 4 times the size of their heads.  It's sOOOOOO gross XP  I appreciate an anime hottie like any other fan,but it's just disgusting to have ridiculous boobs . . .
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« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2006, 10:10:21 am »
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dislikes ...

- underage anime girls with big breasts. you're **** me, right?


XD

- To add on to that - JAILBAIT @ CONS dressed in really revealing outfits.  I am soooo utterly apalled that parents would allow their young girl to dress like that!  I saw a few at Sakuracon and about DIED.
- anime with boobs that are just SURREAL.  There's this one . . . gah, but the chicks boobs DEAD SERIOUSLY are 3 or 4 times the size of their heads.  It's sOOOOOO gross XP  I appreciate an anime hottie like any other fan,but it's just disgusting to have ridiculous boobs . . .


i'd like to add to this: girls and guys who dont look enough like the charictar they are cosplaying because they are overweight....

if you notice ppl usualy avoid eye contact with these people...

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« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2006, 10:24:41 am »
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i'd like to add to this: girls and guys who dont look enough like the charictar they are cosplaying because they are overweight....

if you notice ppl usualy avoid eye contact with these people...


Whoah now, hold on....I can admit that you weren't saying that people shouldn't cosplay when they are overweight, just that you didn't like it when they did....but still, don't you think you're standards are a little high?

I think you could ammend your statement in several ways. Just open your mind a bit.

I have several friends who are overweight and they shouldn't have to refrain from doing things like cosplaying just because of thier size. (I know you weren't saying it should be stopped, but when people are being judged it is the biggest detterent of all, bigger than any rules or laws).

If you start out with the mindset that people over a certain weight are unattractive, your judgement will be conveyed to these people once you encounter them. And encounter overweight cosplayers you will.

Here's a better way to approach this: how about making a predetermined judgement about cosplayers that applies to all areas....for example, you could say that you don't enjoy costumes that are extremely form-fitting or show a good deal of cleavage? I'm sure that costumes like these have added to your distaste for seeing the overweight cosplaying.

I respect that you have your likes and dislikes, but you need to be able to accept other people where they are coming from. Don't post blanket statements like this when you aren't going to give any elaboration on it. If you think your point is justified, explain it better.
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« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2006, 11:04:16 am »
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i'd like to add to this: girls and guys who dont look enough like the charictar they are cosplaying because they are overweight....

if you notice ppl usualy avoid eye contact with these people...


Whoah now, hold on....I can admit that you weren't saying that people shouldn't cosplay when they are overweight, just that you didn't like it when they did....but still, don't you think you're standards are a little high?

I think you could ammend your statement in several ways. Just open your mind a bit.

I have several friends who are overweight and they shouldn't have to refrain from doing things like cosplaying just because of thier size. (I know you weren't saying it should be stopped, but when people are being judged it is the biggest detterent of all, bigger than any rules or laws).

If you start out with the mindset that people over a certain weight are unattractive, your judgement will be conveyed to these people once you encounter them. And encounter overweight cosplayers you will.

Here's a better way to approach this: how about making a predetermined judgement about cosplayers that applies to all areas....for example, you could say that you don't enjoy costumes that are extremely form-fitting or show a good deal of cleavage? I'm sure that costumes like these have added to your distaste for seeing the overweight cosplaying.

I respect that you have your likes and dislikes, but you need to be able to accept other people where they are coming from. Don't post blanket statements like this when you aren't going to give any elaboration on it. If you think your point is justified, explain it better.

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« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2006, 11:22:46 am »
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i'd like to add to this: girls and guys who dont look enough like the charictar they are cosplaying because they are overweight....

if you notice ppl usualy avoid eye contact with these people...


Are trying to tell me not to wear a tight polo shirt when I cosplay as Pops Racer
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« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2006, 12:32:04 pm »
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Are trying to tell me not to wear a tight polo shirt when I cosplay as Pops Racer


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« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2006, 06:03:05 pm »
Well, I'm not really into

1) Cosplay, (not that I have anything against cosplayers, of course)
2) Hentai
3) Fanfics, (again, no offense meant to anyone)
4) Models or figurines

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« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2006, 07:23:41 pm »
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Well, I'm not really into

1) Cosplay, (not that I have anything against cosplayers, of course)
2) Hentai
3) Fanfics, (again, no offense meant to anyone)
4) Models or figurines


Yeah, I'm not really into fanfics very much!  There are some that are SUPER well-written that I will read, but so much of it just seems ... bad.  

I do, however, love Cosplay and Models!

@ the over-weight cosplay comment: I always just prefer people cosplay as someone with a similar body to their own.  I don't cosplay Naga because I don't have the knockers XD

I've seen some great cosplay from plus-sized ladies, though.  One of the best Selenity cosplays I've seen was a heavy-set gal.  But think about it, there's not WAY with as much as Usagi eats that she would be stick thin!

If you're brave enough to wear a costume, friggin' go for it, man!
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« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2006, 08:15:46 am »
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i'd like to add to this: girls and guys who dont look enough like the charictar they are cosplaying because they are overweight....

if you notice ppl usualy avoid eye contact with these people...


Ok then, if we are supposed to go as characters with the same body types there is a VERY SMALL handful of anime characters that "overweight" people would be able to go as in your theory.  Think about it, for females nearly every anime is chock full of thin tall girls, so for most overweight women who are "ONLY" allowed to go as someone who has the same body type as them, then they can't go as any of their favorite characters.  Overweight men may have a few more options but it still isn't fair.

I think as long as a costume is done tastefully, it should not matter.  For example, if someone is cosplaying a japanese school girl uniform and the skirt is quite possibly showing too much skin, then make it longer, that is what I will probably be doing. We can't all have killer bodies and big boobs.  And personally I am not into anyone wearing super revealing naga/catgirl esque costumes whether overweight or not.

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« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2006, 03:32:06 pm »
I forgot to add something, silly me...

I can't stand anthros (sorry Shadow.) I like nekos and all... But full on anthro/furries I don't really like. Blame it on that CSI episode I watched (when I was REALLLLLLY bored.)

As for the overweight subject, I want to say that I am a bit... Mean... When it comes to that issue... I think Strong Bad can easily say my feelings about it with this quote...

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« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2006, 04:26:44 pm »
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Well, I'm not really into

1) Cosplay, (not that I have anything against cosplayers, of course)
2) Hentai
3) Fanfics, (again, no offense meant to anyone)
4) Models or figurines


Yeah, I'm not really into fanfics very much!  There are some that are SUPER well-written that I will read, but so much of it just seems ... bad.  

I do, however, love Cosplay and Models!

Meh. I really don't have much interest in either cosplay or model stuff, but then, I've never really looked into it very much--such my opinion is an uneducated one.

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« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2006, 06:20:04 pm »
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im sorry im somewhat of a cruel minded/mouthed person...

now to clarify... i'm not saying larger people...

okay let me clarify larger people... what i mean is the poeple who are seriously trying to do something like gunner yuna and their obviously not anywhere near the same body size... as in like obese...

okay and to continue... im not saying these people shouldnt cosplay im more of the mind that they should use what they have going for them, and cosplay as the larger loveable side charcters... like robo from chrono trigger...

now, one thing i really hate is for ppl to misunderstand me, my cruelty comes from honesty. cause i too have a good amount of large friends, and ppl who are not the stunning image of sexyness and when they ask me what they should cosplay as, i usualy end up telling them "dont go for something you're obviously not, go for something that could be you. its alot cooler that way" you have no idea how many ppl i've talked out of cosplaying ppl they dont even look like. squalls, inu yashas, vashes...


i could image i sound like a jack ass with his foot in his mouth or something like that, but i refuse to curb my opinions just to be nice... i suppose the best thing i could do whould be to say im sorry... but im not.

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« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2006, 06:20:20 pm »
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im sorry im somewhat of a cruel minded/mouthed person on the internet. im only not cruel in person...

now to clarify... i'm not saying larger people...

okay let me clarify larger people... what i mean is the poeple who are seriously trying to do something like gunner yuna and their obviously not anywhere near the same body size... as in like obese...

okay and to continue... im not saying these people shouldnt cosplay im more of the mind that they should use what they have going for them, and cosplay as the larger loveable side charcters... like robo from chrono trigger...

now, one thing i really hate is for ppl to misunderstand me, my cruelty comes from honesty. cause i too have a good amount of large friends, and ppl who are not the stunning image of sexyness and when they ask me what they should cosplay as, i usualy end up telling them "dont go for something you're obviously not, go for something that could be you. its alot cooler that way" you have no idea how many ppl i've talked out of cosplaying ppl they dont even look like. squalls, inu yashas, vashes...


i could image i sound like a jack ass with his foot in his mouth or something like that, but i refuse to curb my opinions just to be nice... i suppose the best thing i could do whould be to say im sorry... but im not.

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« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2006, 08:04:07 pm »
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im sorry im somewhat of a cruel minded/mouthed person on the internet. im only not cruel in person...


Fair enough, I personally never implied that you shouldn't be. I only asked that you clarify yourself more, and that you open your mind to other possibilities.

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okay let me clarify larger people... what i mean is the poeple who are seriously trying to do something like gunner yuna and their obviously not anywhere near the same body size... as in like obese...


Reality check, these are fictional characters we are talking about. Their body size does not truly exist. Some females are drawn with boobs physically larger than their heads and waists so small that you would literally need ribs surgically removed to achieve the same size ratio.

Eyes are disproportioned, hands and feet are tiny, and things that should droop towards the ground are undeniably perky. There is no living human with the body type for certain anime characters.

As for obese people, well, it seems I must make a few things clearer for you. First you say "im not saying these people shouldnt cosplay im more of the mind that they should use what they have going for them".

The point that a few of us were trying to illustrate is that choosing based on body type drastically lowers the amount of characters you can cosplay as. Pleasing other people and looking cool is only a small part of what cosplaying is about. The appeal to dressing up in a costume is to feel cool and to have fun, to show appreciation for a character, to act like a kid, to be a hero. It's gratifying and self-driven. Choosing a character to cosplay as should never be narrowed down by body type. An obese person can cosplay without looking garrish or trashy, and they shouldn't be limited to character that they don't like or know just because the ones they want are skinnier than them.

To kill the fun of cosplaying is to eliminate the heart of cosplaying. You may enjoy seeing large fuzzy and cute characters cosplayed by larger people, but they may not enjoy it themselves. Don't be so imposing in your veiws on this subject.


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now, one thing i really hate is for ppl to misunderstand me, my cruelty comes from honesty.


I'm going to go off on a really quick tanget here and explain something to you:

There is no such thing as perfect communication, especially when all communication is in the form of written text without the aid of facial expressions and tones to convey your meaning. You will be misunderstood. Almost always. And you will learn to live with it or you will eventually get frustrated with forums and stop communicating via internet altogether.

We are all trying our best to understand your point. No need to feel attacked, no need to get defensive, no need to feel misunderstood. Be as clear and concise as possible and explain all of your points clearly. Be patient when people take it the wrong way, and come back and explain yourself until you are properly understood. There is no way around this process.


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i too have a good amount of large friends, and ppl who are not the stunning image of sexyness and when they ask me what they should cosplay as, i usualy end up telling them "dont go for something you're obviously not, go for something that could be you. its alot cooler that way"



I have never accused you of not knowing what you are talking about, but nevertheless, it is nice to know that you have firsthand experience in this matter.

Concerning your friends and talking them out of doing the cosplays they want to do, I will say only this: I think that you should listen to thier reasons for choosing the characters they cosplay and then consider those reasons before you offer them your own ideas.

Your honesty is very admirable, but don't forgoe the other person's feelings in favor of honesty. In the end, if the message is too harsh the person won't be receptive to what you are saying and neither party will benefit from the interaction. Also keep in mind that if it really isn't hurting anybody, is it wrong that they are cosplaying in the characters of thier choice?

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i could image i sound like a jack ass with his foot in his mouth or something like that, but i refuse to curb my opinions just to be nice... i suppose the best thing i could do whould be to say im sorry... but im not.


I suppose this is your "cruel" side coming out. Look, I'm not going to pick a fight with you, and I don't know why you seem to feel like you are in a confrontation, but you stated that you didn't like something and now people are stating that they disagree with you. That is all that has happened here.

No one has asked you to curb your opinions. Maybe because the majority of us disagree with you, you are starting to feel outnumbered and attacked. But we just want to tell you that, yes, we understand you don't like it, but we do and we'll tell you why.

You don't sound like a jack-ass, you just sound honest and very defensive.
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« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2006, 08:10:45 pm »
Hmmm... what do I not like...

1. Pocky. I eat some now and then if my friends make me, but I'm not totally obsessed with it and can only eat a few at a time.

2. Mechs. Like it seems, other people on this thread, I don't really care for Mechs at all.

3. Japanese food. Hmm like the pocky. I don't really have the tastebuds for the food not yet anyways.

4. Fanfiction. People that write these non-stop scare the hell out of me. I use to write some until I discovered what a freaking scary realm it is. Luckily I found AMVs... much better.

5.  Gaming. Other than DDR and Para-Para..... I don't game. At all. It may be because I don't spend money on video games and stuff but I don't play anything. When I do play a video game, I either get bored or frustrated and stop.

6. Dealer's Room. When I come to a convention usually the dealer's room is created like a big fuss and a must-see. But whenever I go I usually don't spend any money at all... and I don't like it I guess. *shrug* Though I did force myself to buy two things at Sakura Con and I'm very happy I did.

7. Cartoony Cosplay. I love cosplay. But I love to create cosplay as if I'm bringing the character into the real world and making them real. So I really don't like it when people have obvious pieces of their outfit that is just pasted on and nothing like it would be if the character was real.

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Moving on to the issue that's becoming a debate on a board it shouldn't be but I want to comment anyways because I'm just that way...

I agree with rasetsutaisho if I am understanding what he is saying right.

Basically, if a cosplayer is large don't cosplay some girl that wears a tight sexy spandex or bikinis. Understand your body and flatter it with something that looks good on it instead of something that would look good on someone else. For example just browse some gallerys on here... http://catsonmars.com/otaku/cosplay/

And of course if you're someone that takes this offensive... erm... At least try to understand what is being said.
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« Reply #64 on: May 12, 2006, 08:31:16 pm »
I say people just cosplay for fun.Don't worry how close your body looks like the character.anyway things I don't like so much at the cons are I suppose....
1) Mecha Anime
2)Figurines
3)fanfics
4)Most gaming.Don't get me wrong...I love videogames...But most con-goer kids I have played with take the game too seriously...So I just stick to playing with my friends.

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« Reply #65 on: May 16, 2006, 10:56:17 pm »
Wow, what a heated discussion that whole over-weight topic is turning into.  Not to sound superficial, but I somewhat agree to what rasetsutaisho is saying. The truth of the matter is, many people are overweight. Nothing wrong with that.  I just think that if someone is overweight and wants to cosplay, they should choose to cosplay as a character who doesn't have a costume like, say, Faye Valentine. It reveals too much of the body even for people who have ideal weight.  

It's a matter of principle and moral.  No matter how much you weigh, if you don't cosplay tastefully, you'll look more or less like an idiot.  And I think that's the whole point.  This is all said in the name of good cosplay, which I think every cosplayer should strive for.

So let's not hate. I don't think think anyone on this forum is trying to be a meanie head.  

Anyway, I agree with almost everyone's lists in this thread. I cannot stand Mech anime.  WAY. TOO. MANY.

I also think that Cartoon Network has degraded the novelty of anime fandom by mass-televising anime.  I liked Cowboy Bebop before all of America knew about it and now it's just not as fun anymore.  

I'm getting tired of (and I know I'll probably be ninja'ed from almost everyone) Naruto cosplay. Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but when all you see are the Konoha patches swimming in a field of yellow, black, pink, and silver hair...people, it's time to focus on a different anime.  and perferrably not the same one.  Also, I love seeing variety and all the different characters people cosplay as. There are some fantastic and talented people out there but I feel they get lost in the 7 different kakashi's floating around the con.
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« Reply #66 on: May 16, 2006, 11:46:08 pm »
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Wow, what a heated discussion that whole over-weight topic is turning into.  Not to sound superficial, but I somewhat agree to what rasetsutaisho is saying. The truth of the matter is, many people are overweight. Nothing wrong with that.  I just think that if someone is overweight and wants to cosplay, they should choose to cosplay as a character who doesn't have a costume like, say, Faye Valentine. It reveals too much of the body even for people who have ideal weight.  

It's a matter of principle and moral.  No matter how much you weigh, if you don't cosplay tastefully, you'll look more or less like an idiot.  And I think that's the whole point.  This is all said in the name of good cosplay, which I think every cosplayer should strive for.

So let's not hate. I don't think think anyone on this forum is trying to be a meanie head.  

Anyway, I agree with almost everyone's lists in this thread. I cannot stand Mech anime.  WAY. TOO. MANY.

I also think that Cartoon Network has degraded the novelty of anime fandom by mass-televising anime.  I liked Cowboy Bebop before all of America knew about it and now it's just not as fun anymore.  

I'm getting tired of (and I know I'll probably be ninja'ed from almost everyone) Naruto cosplay. Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but when all you see are the Konoha patches swimming in a field of yellow, black, pink, and silver hair...people, it's time to focus on a different anime.  and perferrably not the same one.  Also, I love seeing variety and all the different characters people cosplay as. There are some fantastic and talented people out there but I feel they get lost in the 7 different kakashi's floating around the con.
I actually know exactly what you are talking about with the Naruto cosplay...I am actually doing a Naruto cosplay but I am doing only one and for good reason....So I think it's best if people just kindof move on.I think it's an excellent anime but soo many people do it.So I'm gonna move on to different cosplays for a while.

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« Reply #67 on: May 17, 2006, 07:52:54 am »
I kinda agree with the whole over weight cosplay thing....though it does look better if you're not a stick dressing like choji....

it's really a matter of taste i guess...any one using good judgement should be able to do a decent character for themselves....as well as make a good costume!

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« Reply #68 on: May 17, 2006, 03:20:24 pm »
Ya.Although if somebody cosplays and has a good time it doesn't matter.Honestly I really dislike when people are jerks and gotta put others down for how they look. It has happened very few times at a convention for me but it has happened once.Just mean.

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« Reply #69 on: May 17, 2006, 08:59:48 pm »
I can agree with rasetsutaisho on most levels. For the most part, I would say the point of cosplaying is to look as close to the character as possible. In my opinion not putting forth your best effort into looking like them is almost disrespectful to the character. Such as, if you're not willing to get a wig/dye your hair to look like the character. The same goes for weight, in my book. If your body type doesn't look a thing like the character's you are trying to portray, I view it as a sign of disrespect. In all reality, I don't find excess fat attractive, so I'd rather people keep it covered. Is it biased to think that thin people should be 'allowed' to wear skanky outfits? Yes, and I know that. That's just my personal taste. No, we can't all have bodies like anime characters. But it is my personal belief that if you try hard enough, you can lose the weight/not put it on in the first place. That ties into the 'doing everything you can to look like the character' category for me. But then again, that's kind of another story.

Now, there are some obvious exceptions that can be funny. ex: "Ed from FMA that accidentially transmuted himself into a pocky box" those personally don't bother me.
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« Reply #70 on: May 17, 2006, 09:32:29 pm »
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But it is my personal belief that if you try hard enough, you can lose the weight/not put it on in the first place. That ties into the 'doing everything you can to look like the character' category for me. But then again, that's kind of another story.


Right on. For example, I'm dressing up as Tifa from Advent Children, so I've been weight lifting to tone out my arms. I've also been exercising almost everyday to keep myself in shape. It's hard work, but it's worth every minute when you can look that much closer to the character you're cosplaying.
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« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2006, 05:56:36 am »
Hmmm. Haven't checked back here in awhile. Quite a debate going, I see. At least it's well-represented, I guess... But I only intend to contribute to it briefly.


Here's the thing. Yes, real people don't have the same body proportions as anime characters. But whenever you put on an outfit -- anime or no -- it will look arguably good or arguably bad on you for different reasons. No two people have the exact same build, even outside of anime. But it isn't necessary to look exactly like the character to know whether or not you look good in a costume. Example: Lulu from Final Fantasy X. Her dress is revealing, but it reveals different parts of the body than other costumes, and larger women look much better in it than skinny beanpoles, in my humble opinion. Even when they don't look like Lulu.

Sure, cosplaying is partially self-gratifying and internal... but seriously, people: when you cosplay at a convention, that means you are creating a colorful costume, and wearing it to a place where thousands of fans congregate, and where you know there will be hundreds who brought their cameras just to take pictures of you.

Thus, you'll be hard-pressed to find a convention cosplayer who TRULY doesn't want any outside attention. If they didn't, they'd quickly get sick of stopping for photographs!! So, what's wrong trying to find your best "look"? It's not really all THAT limiting to try to find costumes that suit you. I don't know about you, but I have dozens of favorite characters to choose from. I disagree, however, with the idea that wigs and hair dyeing are expected... many professional Japanese cosplayers forego coloration entirely for some costumes.



...With that thought, I think I need to point something out to prevent further conflict in this thread, since I feel responsible as the originator of the topic for not pointing this out earlier:


This topic is about what you're "not into." That means personal interests and hobbies, and also how you diverge from the stereotypes about what otaku typically enjoy. It is NOT a thread for peeves about other people's behavior at conventions, unless that behavior involves making presumptions about your hobbies and interests just because you're a fellow otaku.


In short, complain if people assume you are interested in Naruto when you are, in fact, not. Do not complain that there are "too many Naruto cosplayers."
...Even if there are. ;)
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« Reply #72 on: May 23, 2006, 10:20:49 am »
I'm not really into anime in general that much anymore, its not like I don't like it... its just I guess its a slump in what I want to watch right now, and I am more into the whole J-Rock and GothicLolita thing moreso now, but I have respect for what everyone likes.

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« Reply #73 on: May 24, 2006, 11:53:36 am »
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I'm not really into anime in general that much anymore, its not like I don't like it... its just I guess its a slump in what I want to watch right now, and I am more into the whole J-Rock and GothicLolita thing moreso now, but I have respect for what everyone likes.

That's always a really funny thing to hear at an anime convention forum.

"What are you not really into?"
"Anime."

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« Reply #74 on: May 24, 2006, 12:25:00 pm »
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I'm not really into anime in general that much anymore, its not like I don't like it... its just I guess its a slump in what I want to watch right now, and I am more into the whole J-Rock and GothicLolita thing moreso now, but I have respect for what everyone likes.

That's always a really funny thing to hear at an anime convention forum.

"What are you not really into?"
"Anime."

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Yeah its pretty odd. Though its not anything against it, its just that there really isn't that much recent stuff that I like much anymore. I am still a fan, just there isn't much I want to watch other than the stuff I have seen already... but there is always series/shows that have fallen through the cracks that are super interesting. Plus anime cons are pretty fun to come and cosplay at and just have a fun time doing stuff that ya normally don't get to do, and they encompass more than just anime normally, including the music.

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Like Princess Princess... one that I like right now. Plus alot of animes end really stupid-like *looks at kasimasi*

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« Reply #75 on: June 15, 2006, 05:50:20 pm »
You know what I'm not into? The 'I love anime' shirts at Hot Topic. I mean, seriously, that just crosses the line into unhealthy amounts of obsession there. I mean, I like anime, but its Hot Topic and everyone goes there! Why would I want to wear a shirt anyone could get their hands on?
But I'm also the type of person that likes garage band music... once everyone else knows about it, my obsession level drops.

I dislike most dubs.

I dislike most Mecha. I mean, its cool to have one robot in a show, like FLCl, but having the whole plot be robots? Nah. Boring.

Also, I don't really like many video games. Especially fighting ones or online ones. I especially think its sooo unattractive when a guy sits there and makes all these inside jokes relating to games that aren't actually funny even if you do get the joke.

I'm not into substaining myself on pocky and ramune for the duration of the con.
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« Reply #76 on: June 21, 2006, 01:34:43 pm »
There's a lot I'm not into, so I'll just touch on a few things.

Furries. I have no problem with Anthros in general, but the furry mentality drives me crazy. A friend of mine, who's a mod on an art gallery, was told that furry persecution was racism, because the person was "really a phenic fox inside."

Shota. All you people into little boys? No. Just no.

Fandoms. It's like high school all over again. But rather than clothes, friends and social position, it's about which anime you like. Sub vs. Dub, yaoi vs. yuri vs. het...it goes on.

Typical Shoujo. If I wanted a story about average, every day life, I'd turn on TV. Most of the story conventions in it drive me nuts. Expections are Fruits Basket and Host Club (but only the animes).

Bishounen. Give me broad-shouldered, scruffy, manly men any day. In an actual anime, sure, fine. But when you're looking at art and you turn your nose up at something because it's not a girly-pretty-boy?

...I'll stop there. I could go on for a while.

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« Reply #77 on: June 21, 2006, 06:17:14 pm »
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I'm not into substaining myself on pocky and ramune for the duration of the con.


Amen to that! I'd be sick after the first day.
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« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2006, 12:06:26 pm »
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I'm not into substaining myself on pocky and ramune for the duration of the con.


Amen to that! I'd be sick after the first day.
pocky and ramune are tasty addtions to a diet not the core!, like you drink it with the meal and pocky for desert or a snack yum
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Offline TheBlackRider

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« Reply #79 on: July 08, 2006, 08:54:53 pm »
hmm.. well

I guess i'm weird. i LOVE mecha anime and Robots. that's basically all i'm in to

I'm actually not into Japanese or Japan very much

to me, the shows have nothing to do with japan or japanese culture, they're just shows that i happen to like.

I'm more of a Russia-fanatic person. Hahaha i have an obsession with Russian and Russia , for some odd reason.
 
I also can't stand any Japanese music, just annoys me.

But Robots  are AWESOME.
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Offline superjaz

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« Reply #80 on: July 10, 2006, 09:03:36 pm »
okay i love some anme thens but not all jpop is created equal and some is too frilly for my taste too soft or sweet or not enought but i love gackts stuff his music is my favorite food
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