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2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« on: January 13, 2015, 07:07:58 am »
Well, the board asked me to do AMVs again for 2015, and LET'S GO!
In the event that my job calls me away from Kumoricon (like last year,
when I spent the whole of Kumoricon weekend AT HOME STUDYING...
... for the USPTO Patent Bar exam...)
I have also invited a long-time AMV friend of mine to help me and run
this in parallel, so he can take over in any event.
He's a Mac Final Cut Pro guy, I'm an Adobe guy, so Diversity.

It had been suggested that the AMV rules be re-written from scratch,
and at this time, I feel it cannot hurt to do exactly that.

We will be getting up some categories and rules together on a scratch page
around the end of January, and I intend to 'go live' with final rules by 1-Mar-15.

ALL comments and suggestions welcome here, or by PM, or by e-mail to me.

- G
 
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Rules - Initial ideas for comment?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2015, 12:42:21 pm »
About 'hentai' content: In the past years my personal preference had been to set down content rules (examples: no panty shots, no 'swear words' as defined by the FCC,) and then allow exactly one, or a fixed, low number of exceptions per entry, or one infraction per minute. I am thinking of adding breast grabs to the "no, thank you" list because a significant fraction of our audience is female, and I believe that a majority of them do NOT find those scenes 'entertaining.' (I certainly do not.) The thing to balance is: when questionable content may energize one small segment of the audience, fail to register with some other slice (as in, a net zero: they don't reject it but don't find the content personally positive, interesting, or inspriring,) and then another slice of audience which finds the subject repellent - so they disengage and go silent and sullen, just waiting for that entry to 'be over with.'
 
Another content question to think about is: should some categories have limits on the number of sources used?
I've observed a transition to more and more AMVs using 5, 10, or TONs of different sources, with the net effect being that  several AMVs in any one category all start looking the same - especially if they all pull the same 5 popular cut scenes from the same 3 most popular shows of the past year.

Lastly, many editors seem to prefer an "expiration date" - typically entries must be no more than 1 year old as of the cutoff date or the contest date. In the past I have not called that in as a rule, but we may want to start doing this for 2015 - but maybe not in all categories.

All comments welcome.
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 08:53:02 am »
Hello Everyone!

My names is Joe ;) .   I'll be working with Guy this year to be his backup / helper so that if something should happen we can have a great contest with as little hiccups as possible.   In the event that Guy becomes unavailable for a future years contest then I'll know all of his tricks and tips for running the best contest on the planet 8) !


I grew up overseas and spent a good amount of time in Japan and SE Asia so anime is something I grew up with back in the early '80s.   My daughter wanted to go to this Con 4 years ago and I have been hooked on AMVs ever since!

If anyone has questions, feel free to ask.


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About the "mature" content, are there enough people that would be interested in a MA-AMV show after Midnight?  (Just thinking of something to do with the submissions that do not meet the final criteria?).


I do think we need a maximum number of videos/audio to keep things unique.   I do understand some categories can be much better with 2 different anime scenes to build suspense or whatnot but agree with the Prince that too many can make for boring vids.


Last on that list, I'm not sure about a cutoff date or expiration but do think if a video has been entered into a contest, then it should be banned from re entry in future years.
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 09:19:09 pm »
#1: Hooray for the return of Prinz Eugen! Let's hope that the resumption of his reign is more propitious than when Ivan IV resumed his reign as Czar of Russia  :/

#2: I offer to help in any way that I can. I've previously judged AMVs, ushered attendees, collected ballots, led ballot counting, and scavenged tables to set up the late night AMV show (you wouldn't believe how tenaciously the yojimbos can hold onto a table, especially when it's being taken from *their station*). The one thing I don't know is video editing. I have no tools, and my crummy PC would probably choke on them if I did.

Rules suggestions:

re Source Purity: Perhaps we could designate one category in which each AMV must stick to just one anime source. Conversely, we could designate one cat (special effects? randomness?) in which anything goes, and all other categories would be limited to one or two sources. As a compromise, some categories could be listed as "pure" (one, maybe two sources) and others listed as allowing a montage. I'd make retro a pure category, if only to make validation easier. "Not What the Anime Was About" (if we do it again) needs to allow at least two sources to enable "wrong" juxtaposition.

re AMV age: For sure, an AMV should not have been entered at Kumoricon before. A one-year, maybe 18 months from deadline limit might be reasonable.

Corollary: Can we auto-bin any entry that flies the flag (a splash-screen) for some other con? If we can forbid broadcast network logos, then we can can ban other cons' promotions. My reasoning is that if you made an AMV for another con, then it's theirs. Don't send it to us unless you think enough of us to at least strip it back to generic.

Which reminds me of a category idea that came up for Kumo's 10th anniversary: How about a whole category for promoting and/or celebrating Kumoricon? Think of how that would stir up the audience! It would also draw *original* content, not every-con retreads. I'd expect some historical retrospectives, so montage AMVs should probably be allowed in such a category.

AMV Show: The "show" would have bonus value before the contest. It could start the moment that the crowd starts shuffling in (made with the awareness that some people will miss the first few AMVs). It would be especially helpful if each AMV in the show were labelled front and back with its presumptive category and maybe with awards won (and year). In this way, the show would educate the incoming and restless audience, helping to calibrate them on both categories and quality. The show's AMVs would be like the "commercial examples" sampled by homebrew judges before they judge a flight of beer in some style.

Retro: I'll admit that I'm in the minority here, but I'll offer my 2c again: When I think Retro, I expect cell animation (not CG). Therefore, I would use that in the category definition (for source), rather than just age. Such a definition would serve to divide long-running series, pushing editors to use the actual old stuff rather than using new CG eps of old series. Besides, cell animation has a certain *look* some of us want to preserve.

PS: I might have been the one to suggest a rewrite from scratch, but my reasoning (last summer) was that if a new AMV Contest leader were volunteering, then he should not be afraid to lead (and craft an event that would elevate his own energy for it). With our former fearless leader returning, it would be perfectly reasonable for him to run just a slight variation on the formula that fits his long-standing vision for the event.

I'm now shopping for a bottle of amarone to help fulfil that vision...
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Re: Rules - Initial ideas for comment?
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2015, 11:13:42 am »
Quote from: Prinz Eugen
About 'hentai' content: [...]
It's tough since the advertised "limit" is usually PG-13, but even those types of movies can include limited cursing and partial nudity. If that happens across many music videos, its no longer PG-13 and is in R territory. Maybe a hard "PG" limit is placed and nothing "sketchy" or "NSFW" will be allowed by rule.

Quote from: Prinz Eugen
Another content question to think about is: should some categories have limits on the number of sources used?
Multiple sources really isn't the problem... I think the problem is the "AMV Hell" style videos that are coming up more and more... Maybe a separate category is needed just for that style?

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Lastly, many editors seem to prefer an "expiration date" - typically entries must be no more than 1 year old as of the cutoff date or the contest date.
Fortunately, most videos seem to follow the annual convention circuit pattern. I would suggest a rule that requires the video have an original premier date of less than 1 year prior to the Kumoricon contest. This wouldn't prevent someone from working on a video for over a year, however once they start submitting it to contests/websites they would only have that year to get it submitted to Kumoricon.
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2015, 10:22:16 pm »
(WELCOME BACK!)

I will pass along to chris, he said he will have to get his butt in gear and work on his AMV.
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 06:45:04 pm »
Given that absolutely nothing has been said about the winners of 2014's contest, doesn't it seem premature to discuss 2015's contest?
Kumoricon 2014:


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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 06:56:45 pm »
I doubt I'm going to say anything about Kumoricon's AMV contest ever again but, having worked "behind the scenes" last year, I feel obligated to say just a few things:

I was really appalled by how the consensus among all the judges (all of whom had been judges for you in the past) and the coordinator you chose felt that the rules were all 100% "suggestions" and that they generally had only passing familiarity with them to begin with. After years of being involved with the AMV contest, this did a lot to explain a number of complaints I and other editors have had over the years, namely that it seems like editors who follow the posted rules are at no advantage against those who ignore them completely. I think that moving forward, it would be best to notify creators immediately when their entries do not fit with contest policies and allow them to fix their entry or rescind their submission rather than pretend the rules will be correctly enforced by judges (whose job should be to pick good entries, not "acceptable" entries). Without this change, a new set of rules seems completely pointless.

On a related note, this is completely my personal opinion but I spoke to the judges about previous years and it seems like in general the average age of your judges is substantially older, more conservative, and more male than Kumoricon at large. I think that the convention would be much better served if the judges reflected the age/gender demographics of the convention at large.
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 07:18:27 pm »
Reflecting on my interactions with several editors during my time as assistant, I remembered a suggestion I promised to pass along from several of them: Kumoricon's contest has a reputation for being very skewed towards male & foreign editors (I was surprised people on general websites i.e. animemusicvideos.org even had opinions on us but I heard this from around 7 people) and specifically adding a Drama and/or Romance category would make Kumoricon feel more approachable to female editors. I think that maintaining relationships with regional editors is important to keeping the contest sustainable long-term and that the interest of these people (some of whom were quite talented and told me they had been told their style wasn't what Kumoricon was looking for in the past) is an important aspect of this.

I'm pretty sure that's it. Best of luck to you.
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2015, 09:50:48 am »

Given that absolutely nothing has been said about the winners of 2014's contest, doesn't it seem premature to discuss 2015's contest?
Unfortunately for me, I was entirely out of the loop for 2014 and even spent that whole Kumoricon weekend stuck studying for the Patent Bar exam. When the current head of Programming contacted me to run the 2015 contest, she said she is still working to recover the 2014 information. If any information comes to me about the 2014 playlist and results, I'll post the stuff promptly.

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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2015, 09:59:17 am »

Good comments! Keep 'em coming!

We may try a Drama category this time, but we'll be watching for two factors:

1. Drama AMVs on fan download sites tend to run at least FOUR minutes and some run
five and a half, with even a few pushing SEVEN minutes. Multiply by four to six entries
and that one category can threaten to punch out a quarter of the total running time of
the contest.

2. Because of longer AMVs, and the previous experience that the music in Drama AMVs
tends to be slower, plodding, languid, whatever - past audiences have used that slot as
'the bathroom break,' and we lose 20% of filled seats, or more. It's quite  hard to re-fill
a room. I saw this happen the last time a group of judges created  a 'Horror' category on
the fly. We had moms with 7-yr olders bolting for the doors.

Those two problems were why, in the string of contests I have run, Drama morphed into
the 'UPBEAT' category: it leaves out the long-drawn out "stem-winders" by hinting that
the music had better NOT be sluggish.

I think I have had women winners in at least the last five or seven years running, with about
half of them being present at the con so I could award the prize in person (Yey!) This past
NewConPDX AMV contest had a woman winner, also present at that con, for a
'Juno' trailer. Great fun.

As far as location of the editors, I believe that there should be absolutely no favoritism shown,
and no discrimination. In the panels I have run, the judges were simply not informed about
who made what entries or where they come from. Subtitles in other languages may be a hint,
but the language of a song may not be conclusive - a French editor may use an Italian song,
but so may some other editor from Kelso, WA. So what?

Next, about the ages of those who end up as judges, we now get into what I feel is a weird kind
of bigotry, in my experience. I solicit judges mostly from Kumoricon staff meetings. I always
invite first, then inquire about personal particulars later, if at all. Therefore I will ask first without
a care for any prospective person's age, religion,orientation, political preferences, dietary concerns,
or whatever.

I have consistently - over 10 years - striven to include a diverse selection of people  to come
together as AMV judges. I get a rough idea about who says 'yes' AND are actually likely to show up,
and I then try to recruit in a manner that round things out. That's the one-half of the question
I can control.

But the other half I cannot control is how people react when I invite them to consider participating
as a judge. For every Kumoricon that passes, I get 1 year older, and at this writing I am 52. Also,
I've been on amv.org since 2001. So here lies the other half of the situation: is the typical 19-27
year-older - the person we both feel needs to show up in order to balance off against the late
30-something crowd - open-minded enough to participate in an event when invited by someone
who happens to be 52, and openly socially conservative?
(Remember, if some people get to be openly liberal, then I and any number of other people get
to be openly conservative. Because freedom and tolerance, right?)

On that half of the equation, it's up to them - and if you want to help fix it, then maybe one thing
you might be able to do is encourage people you know who show up at Kumoricon staff to not shy
away from being an AMV judge if asked, even if the asker is someone far afield from their own
political opinions, choice of religion, and age. There is one rule, though: I have to do the asking
first. This is to prevent some organized 3rd party from packing the panel with a pre-established
network of people with an agenda or a pre-selected favorite entry or editor.

One more interesting change: In working with '13Joe' to lead the contest activities this time, this
should add a new recruitment network for judges. Stay tuned!

Warm regards, and thank you very much for your comments.

- G
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2015, 06:39:19 pm »
Hey Y'all,

I have had some time to go over a lot of things with Guy and have made some decisions about this years Contest.   Everyone's input was appreciated and considered.


A few things you will see are integrated into the Contest Rules, a few other's were not.  There are a couple of things I wanted to address below:

"Can we auto-bin any entry that flies the flag (a splash-screen) for some other con?"
---The reason why I am going to accept Bumpers this year is too help raise awareness of the existing AMV community for new, up-and-coming AMV editors and anyone interested in entering contests.   Let's grow the community  ;)

"AMV Show: The "show" would have bonus value before the contest. It could start the moment that the crowd starts shuffling in (made with the awareness that some people will miss the first few AMVs). It would be especially helpful if each AMV in the show were labelled front and back with its presumptive category and maybe with awards won (and year)."   
---Good idea!  I have seen Guy run odd AMVs as people arrive but a timed Show would be a great way to keep the energy up while we are seating.   I'll see what we can do about making that happen.

"One more interesting change: In working with '13Joe' to lead the contest activities this time, this should add a new recruitment network for judges. Stay tuned!"
---I definitely have a network of people to draw from of differing age and opinion ranges so we will see some fresh faces at the judging this year (as well as a few old ones I'm sure). 

---In "General", Romance/Drama/Instrumental type Categories, can get slow for long periods of time and often can slow down the energy of the show.   However, let me say that there are indeed many fantastic AMV's that fit into those Categories and that I am indeed a fan of them.   In order to try accommodate everyone, I have added an extra Category that will encompass all interests that are not included in the other Five.

The Official Contest Rules will be posted in a new thread soon…

Thanks!

Joe
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2015, 04:27:29 pm »
Is there a maximum number of AMV's one can submit?

I have created two that I both really like, I don't know if I could choose just one. They are different genres if that changes anything

 EDIT: Nvm I found the page that states the rules
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4 entries max. per person; up to 2 in any one category.
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2015, 07:50:46 pm »
Hey, no problem, and for others who were wondering, the contest rules are right next door, over HERE:
https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/index.php?topic=18989.0


You may offer up to 4 entries for this year's contest, and you may send up to two in any one category.


Good Luck and KEEP 'EM COMING!!


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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2015, 12:05:32 pm »
I just tuned into this year's rules and noticed that the max length is up to 5 minutes. It will be interesting to see how that affects what entries we receive (how many, what lengths, and what quality). Contest running time has always been tight in the past, even with a stricter per-entry time limit. Can the contest find room for 5-minute AMVs? I guess we will find out. I've been a judge in more than one year when we had a good AMV or two that were that long, and we wanted to find room for them, but we just couldn't bring ourselves to cut two to make room for one of equal quality. I can't say that longer AMVs never made the cut, but it has been rare in my experience.

My worry is that AMV editors might not be aware of how severe the total contest-time pressure is. Maybe Prinz Eugen can do the math for us: Up to 36 entries fitting a total running time of (how many minutes?) implies an average AMV length of____. That time pressure influences cutting decisions at the margins. When required to cut 20 minutes from the total running time for the contest, the judges are likely to cut the 4 longest AMVs from among those "on the bubble", and then we'll beg the AMV coordinator to let us go 4+ minutes overtime so we don't need to cut a 5th.  To "invest" anything over 4 minutes in a single AMV, it usually needs to be among the best in category if not a contender for best in show (or Judges' Choice). Conversely, there are always a couple of entries at 45-60 seconds that sneak into the contest because they round out a category without busting the time budget.

Another consideration to watch this year is total volume of entry material. Even with the lower limit of the past,  I can recall facing something close to 7 total hours of entries to work through. With looser requirements and a longer limit, we could get both more entries and longer entries. If that happens, then you might consider recruiting two teams of judges to divide the sheer volume of work.

PS: Advice to AMV editors: If you can make your point (convey what you want to convey) in 2:33 instead of 4:41, then your deftly-cut, fast-paced, concise and meaningful 2:33 AMV will almost certainly be better than (i.e. vastly superior to) a slow-paced and repetitious 4:41 version that includes redundant material and filler. If that means cutting a chorus or verse (or three) out of your source audio, then do it; editing audio is as much a part of an AMV as editing video. The audience will thank you (with their votes). As a bonus, a shorter running time is easier on the judges too.
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2015, 05:53:30 pm »
Ugh, for some reason I'm having a quality export problem with my video.  Trying to sort it out because I don't want to enter if it's going to look like crap...  Which leads me to a little question that's probably stupid to ask (not sure if it goes on this thread or another).  But for this we'll be blowing them up with a projector right?  So will videos have a disadvantage if they're in 720 x 480 and not 1920 x 1080?  Is quality a part of the judging?  And if so how much?  I know in the past when I've made a video bigger with a small video size, it's looked like crap.  But I wasn't sure if audience care as much about that or not.  Like I said, I'm having quality issues so I don't want to enter if I can't solve them.  The video is still watchable but not the high quality I wanted.

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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2015, 08:30:58 pm »
We are shaking up the whole judges' panel this year, but in general they will be trying to cobble together the most ENTERTAINING set of videos in each category. Moderate vs. super-uber-crisp-sharp video quality is not a deal breaker, but a pixellated crud-fest made by taking the .wmv output of Windows Movie Maker and (badly) trans-coding it to .mp4 might get a thumbs down because it looks terrible (and is therefore less ENTERTAINING) than other vidoes competing in the category.

Meanwhile, a project with awesomely perfect frame rendering 2160p x 120 frames per second (YES THESE ARE COMING...) but with a lack-luster story or emotional content may get passed over by a smaller-sized project that has some other merits: intense drama, a well-timed surprising punchline, a set of well-known anime characters set to a fun song that gets the house rocking . . .

So go ahead and tell your story; get those mechanics down first. Next is clean video frames in uncompressed output. You can use some older (free) tools like VirtualDub or VirtualDubMod to clean-up most uncompressed video. Your audio comes next - beat sync, lip sync, timing, and audio effects (high-pass or low-pass filters, abrupt volume changes that go with scene changes, etc.) Given the audio system in Main Events, you probably don't need to worry about distortion above maybe 16kHz.

Now - compression! A 4-minute AMV in 740x480 at 24fps if totally uncompressed would be over 20GB!
But that's OK, because you can check for clarity or other problems like interlacing or wrong aspect ratios between clips.
So, if everything checks out in uncompressed mode, you're ready for one of the simplest tools out there -
it's "AMV Simple" and you can get it here:
amvnews.ru/index.php?go=Page&id=35&lang=en
This link may also work: http://akross.ru/soft/ASG.zip

Someone else has uploaded "Baka Encoder" but I have not used this one myself: http://amvnews.ru/?go=Page&id=33&lang=en

Good luck compressing and please post again if you are having more troubles,
or have other questions!


 - G
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2015, 01:44:46 pm »
Thanks so much for the quick response!

I make my living editing videos so I'm really baffled by what is going wrong with everything but I'll try to figure it out.  All the feedback I've gotten from people is that the video is good but the quality does take away a little.  It's not god awful but it still isn't the best it could be which is annoying since it too me a week to rip the content off my DVDs and I did so in the highest possible quality setting.

I think it's just final cut being a pain in the butt.  I'm trying to re-create the video in premiere and see if that export is at least a little better. 
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Older anime in DVD only or smaller formats...
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2015, 08:38:29 am »
Also, although we are NOT doing a 'Retro' category this year, in situations where older anime is used the judges generally take into account that the available source material may be limited; not *everything* has been re-mastered and released to BluRay, so there should be plenty of room for AMVs made from DVD 740x480 and 640x480 formats. 480 x 360 can often be re-sampled to resize even as large as 1280 x 960 with reasonably decent results.
Older guys like me went through this before in the early 80s when CDs were displacing vinyl records - were your favorites records of the late 70s going to come out on CD or not?!? Answer: Yes, mostly, but I still kept my LPs and a working phonograph...
Some anime fans have collections of laserdiscs and a working player, and I keep one working VHS machine for some OLDER anime and a few movies you cannot find on the net. I made my first AMV on that machine, using a Dazzle card to sample 360 x 252!

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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2015, 10:48:26 am »
Even with recent releases, there is variation in resolutions of different series. Most are made in 1080p, but I've seen discussions within the last year that this or that fan sub would be released no higher than 720p because that was the resolution of the original broadcast.

BluRay sources (as opposed to broadcast raws) might be higher res, but watch out for one pitfall of the discs: They often include visual elements that don't fit Kumoricon's PG-13 standard, and you might not even notice them until you learn that the judges  moved your AMV to the late-night viewing collection (excluded from the contest). I don't know if there's an allowance for one or two frames of T or A, but to be safe, all DVD/BluRay sources should be double-checked if there's even a chance that strategic steam may have "evaporated" since broadcast.

That said... Considering the viewing conditions for the judges' panel and then the audience, the judges' initial screening is more intimate and therefore able to see the difference between higher and highest resolution. However, the judges are also supposedly more sophisticated (should judge it in context). AMVs that make it into the contest in Main Events will be projected onto big screens, but the audience will be further back so that they'll hardly know the difference between 1080p and 1280p. Even 720p is probably passable, especially if viewers are laughing so hard that they have tears in their eyes.

Take away lesson: Make'em laugh (or cry) so it just doesn't matter.
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2015, 02:29:42 pm »
Thanks everyone!  This all makes me feel much better.  I doubt my AMV will go very far anyway but I'm one of those perfectionist types. 

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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2015, 10:31:23 am »
This year's selection method for judges will be (to the extent possible) an attempt to map congruently to a subset of the projected Kumoricon audience, so there's no necessary expectation that the group selected to be judges are any more 'l33t' about AMVs than anyone else who is likely to attend Kumoricon and its AMV contest.
You can never tell how far an AMV will go - so SEND THEM IN ANYWAYS!!
 
Also this year I've heard that video at the hotel has finally been upgraded from VGA.
AV staff can add more detailed remarks, but I believe we will be running at least 1080p-capable this time.
 
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2015, 11:06:29 am »
Oh awesome.  Last time I was in an AMV contest is was from a crappy projector putting it on the wall.  So now matter how good of quality your video was, it would still look terrible.  I haven't gone to an AMV event for Kcon yet, I always seem to miss out, but I'm going to try and go this year.

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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2015, 01:32:25 pm »
I've heard a lot of people complaining that they never found out the winners of 2014's AMV contest. Do you have a solution to that for this year?

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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2015, 02:28:00 pm »
I've heard a lot of people complaining that they never found out the winners of 2014's AMV contest. Do you have a solution to that for this year?

Thank-You, for bringing that up!

We are making headway on the "2014 Situation" and working to rectify the different areas in need.   Please, stay tuned for that list and some information to be posted in the near future.



This year The Prince is back to help me run another fantastic show and contest.   He has over a decade in this and other conventions and has a proven track record for following thru.

Also, it is just he and I this year and we are communicating constantly to insure that if either one of us is not able to participate, the other person will have all of the information already and have been in the "loop" the whole time.

This years show is already going to be spectacular if the entries that have already been submited are any indication of things to come...
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Re: 2015 AMV Contest - Categories and rules suggestions?
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2015, 02:50:45 pm »
Thanks, Joe.
Maybe the list was on Lois Lerner's hard drive?

Also, even though I didn't have anything to do with 2014, I was at Kumoricon Lite last Saturday, and one staff person said that I should expect to receive an e-mail** with the 2014 playlist and winners. If that's true then I'll make those results public as rapidly as I can.
I was also told that Kumoricon will make a special purchase of prizes for each winner and (as always) pony up the postage to send the prizes to wherever the winners reside; Joe (13Joe) and I will do some digging to try to identify the prize-winning editors by their AMVs.

When I had run things, I had all the contact info in two locations, then back-up to a third location right before con.
(I have the contest, plus back-ups of the contest on two other machines, so 3 copies in all.)

**Now, (to whomever it may concern) if I never get that e-mail , or I get it like only 4 weeks before con, it'll be very difficult to pull this all together.
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