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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2011, 04:16:45 am »
I am posting the most update info I have here: http://mellonemrys.livejournal.com/54306.html

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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2011, 08:18:45 am »
I have heard back from my friends over there, they are okay.  My friend Junko said that all they can really do to help is not use electricity.  One said sitting on the ground was like ridding a wild horse.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2011, 09:24:19 am »
I have two friends in Japan, but I only have the email of one of them. I emailed her yesterday morning and she responded, I was so relieved. But things are still bad, so we keep emailing back and forth.

Some of the stuff she's saying is really sad, I'm so scared for her:
"Japan is destroied...
Japan is not as we know it.
I'm afraid so much.
But I'm very glad your mail!
I hope the thing is better than now."
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Re: Japan hit by 8.9 magnitude Earth Quake then a Tsunami!
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2011, 10:41:38 am »
I saw orbital footage of the earthquake's effects on the ocean; THAT was freaky!  It looked like an Alaska-sized (guessing on that) hurricane had been formed.

I have a sister in Hawai'i; she's fine.  Oahu didn't take that big of a hit.

I've heard that there have even been oceanic effects along some of the coast of Chile.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2011, 12:45:36 pm »
So apparently a lot of people are saying that the earthquake and tsunami is "karma" for Pearl Harbor. That's incredibly stupid and just plain sick. Yeah, because two atomic bombs wiping out two large cities just isn't enough.
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Re: Japan hit by 8.9 magnitude Earth Quake then a Tsunami!
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2011, 01:29:41 pm »
I really wish I could be there to help.

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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2011, 01:41:26 pm »
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I wish I could disbelieve that anyone would say that with a straight face.

Willfully ignorant people (on several levels) like that should go commit unspeakable acts with a cactus.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2011, 05:57:09 pm »
Or even worse the Fukushima Power Plant going critical.
Radiation is bad.

You may think it isn't because of all the weird inventions, designs, social codes, games, art and porn...But it is. ;)
So apparently a lot of people are saying that the earthquake and tsunami is "karma" for Pearl Harbor.
Kick the cub and expect to be slaughtered by the mom...This quake is not some form of divine retribution because Japanese weren't stepping on any toes and even so, they're far more civil about their problems than we are. Any karma they deal with is an issue within their closed social system and deserves to stay there.

Still, this isn't the first a tsunami has been called karma and this logic kills me every time. [content removed]. I don't go picketing the funerals of people that have died of AIDS and I don't expect so much hate speech from the church for each natural disaster that hits every country but ours. I just often wish a big meteor would fly out of the heavens and nuke these idiots for eliminating common decency from this world. Part of me wants to believe there is something so much greater than this world that it realizes that is bull****. No more of that.

The ones in this country that preach their "high moral code" don't have one. They can't handle natural disasters without plunder, theft and killing(you know, everything that makes us human scum). We have no reason to judge other countries that handle this sort of thing so much better than we ever will. Too bad it's never going to f'ing happen. :/

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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2011, 06:35:14 pm »
That's so stupid!  with that reasoning I would hate to see the US cumuppance for the native americans
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2011, 09:26:58 pm »
I've merged the two earthquake threads into one.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2011, 04:28:53 am »
I just updated this with information from the Press Conference about the Nuclear Reactors - http://mellonemrys.livejournal.com/54306.html
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2011, 05:31:15 am »
Thanks for that. It's good to know the reactors aren't so huge a concern. I need better maps. If Sendai got it the worst, I know at least three people that don't have a home anymore because they're right there. Two are in Haranomachi and the other is in Miyagi. Screwed and double screwed. At least they were in upper story apartments. >.>'

I'm familiar with the footage I've seen so far but it probably looks so bad right now. The rest of the people I know out there dealing with this are in Chiba, Tsu and Osaka. My geography skill isn't the best for South Japan but something tells me they're better off than the three up North around Sendai(except the one near Shizuoka...She's fine but the house is doomed). She wants my help but I'm not sure what I can do right now. Some time yesterday evening one guy called me telling me he was just getting off work and he was asking if I'm okay. I guess my pronunciation still makes a few of them a bit stupid since I've talked to them for years and they still don't believe I'm American but as many times as I tell them I'm in America they never believe me. This is what they have. A fragile love and a very strong fear that I only wish I had.

The concern is weird to me and I'm really surprised that anyone's cell managed to reach me. From what I understand all the lines are emergency only. Skype was the only medium that got through to me yesterday: Twice. Usually I'm getting spammed with calls at every hour of the day from Japan but I realized something afterwards that bothers me: During the entire day one guy managed to call me to ask if I was okay. I imagine several others made that call and no one answered.

Maybe this isn't as bad as I thought but worse in ways that I've forgotten about.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2011, 03:02:50 pm »
It is too weird that I only re-watched Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 a few months ago. Haunting really.

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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2011, 10:10:09 am »
I've merged the two earthquake threads into one.

I was wondering if someone was going to do that...

Here's some quotes from an article I just found:

"Kyodo, the Japanese news agency, reported that 2,000 bodies washed up on two shorelines in Miyagi."

"While the official death toll rose to nearly 1,900, the discovery of the washed-up bodies and other reports of deaths suggest the true number is much higher. In Miyagi, the police chief has said 10,000 people are estimated to have died in his province alone."

"The pulverized coast has been hit by hundreds of aftershocks since Friday, the latest one a 6.2 magnitude quake that was followed by a new tsunami scare Monday."

"According to public broadcaster NHK, some 430,000 people are living in emergency shelters or with relatives. Another 24,000 people are stranded, it said. "

The full article can be found here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2011, 06:31:02 pm »
Geez, I'm all stirred up now. Keep hearing about how all these Americans are so afraid, but no one knows anything about radiation. They just know they know, not know the truth. blargle.

I hope my cousins wife's family are all ok. She is from Okinawa, so I bet anyone still there is doing well. I just don't know if anyone moved. We're such a close family, eh?

Not to mention the bible thumping teeny bopper who and thousands like her were praying for God to show atheists around the world He exists, and the He is the correct God. D.B.

If you are afraid of radiation, stay away from Denver, and granite counter tops. They are more radioactive than any fallout we will get. Also never get any X-rays for anything, teeth, chest. Never fly in an airplane!

You act as if you never eat any uranium. It's only the second most common metal in the earth's crust. About 20 ppm.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2011, 09:09:03 pm »
Not to mention the bible thumping teeny bopper who and thousands like her were praying for God to show atheists around the world He exists, and the He is the correct God. D.B.

Not that this is the place for it, but for just a moment let's analyze the mindset that would pray such a thing and try to figure out why, in fact, that would be so repugnant.

If someone believes that there is one God and that we are all in need of Him, and if that person also believes that that God desires us all to know Him and become complete in Him, and if that person believes that - because this God desires to save us eternally - He will make even the worst event work to an ultimate good... if all these things are the case, why are you opposed to their prayers? The prayer of someone with this mindset is not so that people see and admit that they were wrong. It is not just to be recognized and given a pat on the back. These prayers are because the person praying genuinely cares for the fate of these human lives. From someone who believes that a life lost divided from God will lead to eternal death, are these prayers for understanding and salvation not deserving of your respect?

I know, speaking for myself, I pray that God would use this opportunity to the furthering of His kingdom, meaning that, yes indeed, more eyes would be opened to His presence and reality. I do not do this to be right, or to prove that I am "better" or something like that. It is simply applying what I have come to know as the truth, and wishing for no lives to be lost in vain.

I just think there is more to these prayers of salvation than you may be acknowledging.

But anyway, like I said...this isn't the place for it.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2011, 04:14:29 am »
I noticed something interesting about Japan, disaster, and religion.  During WWII most of the Japanese people of Christian faith were considered to be American sympathizers.  They were rounded up, placed in camps and forced to work in factories.  Where?  Why Nagasaki of course!  We blew away almost every Christian in Japan with our bomb.  In fact the epicenter of the explosion was about a block away from the largest cathedral in Japan.

In other news the Catholic Bishop of Sendai currently oversees the four northern prefectures of Miyagi, Fukushima, Iwate and Aomori, serving 11,152 Catholics in 56 parishes. Mototerakoji, the Cathedral of the diocese, is located a few blocks north of Sendai Station.

Hmm..  Is someone telling us something?   :-\
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2011, 12:47:30 pm »
^ Going with that in mind, I'm surprised that the Westboro Baptist Church isn't calling out against the "evil of Japan" and "divine punishment to the heathens" that their probably thinking about right now.  (Unless what happened here in Vancouver has caused them to be silent).

So, apparently, the quake has shifted the earth's axis & stuff.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110314/ts_yblog_thelookout/japans-earthquake-shifted-balance-of-the-planet
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2011, 07:33:22 pm »
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I guess what she said was no worse than Jerry Falwell, or was it Pat Robertson who said 9/11 was God's punishment for America allowing homosexuals.

And no one ever gets in a snit over wearing clothes of mixed fibers, which is also one of God's commandments.

Maybe God needed a bunch of Japanese Catholics in a hurry up in heaven???

I got an email from my cousin in Hawaii, his mom's family is okay. They are in Okinawa and Tokyo, not up near Sendai.

Anyone look to see if sales of Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 went up this week? I think everyone who has seen that series, thought of it soon after hearing about the quake, and how strong it was.

I hear that the kind of Big One we are to have here in Oregon, will be of a similar strength. At least that is how strong the one 300 years ago was.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #70 on: March 15, 2011, 07:53:04 pm »
Kumoricon is working on a fundraising for Japan.  Details as they develop here: http://www.kumoricon.org/forums/index.php?topic=15027.0
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #71 on: March 17, 2011, 06:14:32 pm »
Another way for all of us to support and encourage those in Japan has been started, called Prayers from Cosplayers. A place for cosplayers to send a smile, photo, or other form of encouragement to the cosplayers of Japan.


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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #72 on: March 19, 2011, 02:43:29 am »
Something I thought to share is Operation Tomodashi, the US military's relief effort for the affected areas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tomodachi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKiEUykg1ow

But what was stood out to me in particular is that even 2ch, which could be considered the Japanese equivalent of 4chan, is deeply moved by the effort of of the US military from what I read.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #73 on: March 20, 2011, 07:51:50 pm »
I wonder if they are more amazed that we actually do anything. I doubt they get to see much of what we do over there. As our basic mission is to protect Japan, not monkey with Japan.

Fondly remembering the protesters in front of Club Alliance in Yokusuka, way back when. There was always a small band of protesters in front every night I had liberty, and went out the main gate. I have no idea what they were protesting. All I knew of Japanese back then was to answer the phone and go Hi! Hi! Hi! like the locals. lol
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #74 on: March 20, 2011, 08:54:08 pm »
I wonder if they are more amazed that we actually do anything.
I am more amazed that we actually do anything.

I just got a message from Yaoicon that the art auctions have managed to donate $1500 so far. It sounds a bit weak coming from them but every bit helps. I'm so glad that this isn't like Katrina. It's not some crappy disaster like New Zealand, Haiti or Katrina at all. These people dealt with numerous deadly quakes, then almost immediately, a tsunami and threat of nuclear disaster. Despite all this, you don't have senseless nutjobs shooting people over ipods, bikes and sneakers. These are people that no longer have homes and are swimming in a sea of dead bodies. They're quickly being overwhelmed by a dwindling supply of clean food and water. I had to turn off the news after hearing about this for a straight week because the news reporters sound so calloused. It's obvious that they don't care so why are they reporting it?

NHK and skype people do a better job describing what's going on anyway. I woke up to reading this first thing today:

[5:18:33 PM] なかっくす@Fkushima 2Million says: It is in 60Km west from the first nuclear power plant in Fukushima now.
[5:19:42 PM] なかっくす@Fkushima 2Million says: Rain that contains the radioactive substance is falling.
[5:20:20 PM] なかっくす@Fkushima 2Million says: Because it is a level of unquestionable for the human body, it is safe.

Yeah his English isn't the greatest, shut up. >.>' I like how some of these choppers are pouring water over the reactors. Wouldn't it be better to cram these choppers full of as many people as they can hold and fly them to a place that isn't underwater and partially radioactive? Just a thought. Unlike the disgust that filled me with the Katrina and Haiti disasters, I think I should actually donate for this one.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #75 on: March 20, 2011, 09:58:14 pm »
Unlike the disgust that filled me with the Katrina and Haiti disasters, I think I should actually donate for this one.

Again, unrelated, but what disgusted you about those disasters? Just curious.


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« Reply #76 on: March 20, 2011, 10:31:44 pm »
For me it was Karina; school buses underwater, police running away, shooting at the rescuers, taking away citizens guns, FEMA cutting down communications antennas of local emergency services.
Haiti, the lack of help the internatoinal community gave, mainly France, but our own response was underwhelming.

The news generally disgusts me. Not what happened, but how journalists inject their own agenda. Do you know now what a microsievert is? 

I hope we get report on how things are progressing, instead of no new at all, except bad stuff.
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« Reply #77 on: March 20, 2011, 11:49:25 pm »
Okay, that's what I was curious about. I assume DaemonForce meant the same, that the response to the disasters was disgusting. It almost sounded like in his eyes those disasters were disgusting in and of themselves, inferior or undeserving of help or something. I think I just misunderstood the meaning of certain words in this context.


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« Reply #78 on: March 21, 2011, 12:56:35 am »
Again, unrelated, but what disgusted you about those disasters? Just curious.
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Katrina was the worst natural disaster to hit America in a long time and it continues to devastate American budgets and jobs by infecting my tax forms with data that shouldn't be there and giving priority to those that don't seriously need our help anymore. It's been years. The victims have either recovered or died. Period. The way media tried to cover up how poorly the disaster was handled and how awful the situation became after mediocre help efforts caused it to be far worse than it should have ever been and made an even bigger mess when the first solution attempts were applied. The ranks among the dead were either ones that stood the course or couldn't afford to flee. Large segments of evacuees resisted efforts to get jobs and unchain themselves from our government dependency. It reached a point where they sued to force taxpayers to keep paying for their sloth and greed.

I like how we keep killing the good people and then turn around and give a free ride to every degenerate in this country. Ted Williams being the latest example of this stupid behavior. We gave free room, board and cable to anyone with a complete lack of responsibility and we wonder what's wrong with our budget these days.

There were constant lies, cover-ups and few genuine concerns over Katrina and Haiti. Guess how this is going to go with Japan? It was hard enough to describe the damage done to the country but the political drama is going to find a way to permanently blow this completely out of proportion for weeks to come. This is why I'm going to ignore the news until everyone finally shuts up about this. Japan is no stranger to the kind of damage a tsunami does to their country. They're the ones that named the damn thing. Japanese on Skype have been calling me every day to describe the situation but right now it seems that the quake, tsunami and being homeless are the least of their concerns. I keep hearing and reading more about nuclear disaster than anything. They're definitely more focused than we'll ever be. It makes me sad.
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I assume DaemonForce meant the same, that the response to the disasters was disgusting.
No. Let me make this as painfully clear as I can: The entire thing from start to finish completely disgusts me. The disaster, lack of preparation/action, how it was reported, how it was filmed, how much fraud was involved in the whole rescue plan...I don't want to think about it right now though. You know I have enough hate in my system.
It almost sounded like in his eyes those disasters were disgusting in and of themselves, inferior or undeserving of help or something.
Actually now that you mention it, there were some people that were undeserving of our help. ***** ****** ******** of the fraud that went on 5+ months after the initial rescue plan but even if I were given several months of free stays at 5 star hotels that like to charge $450/night I would still look for a job rather than suck on the treasury the entire time. Sometimes there's a limit to the insanity I can handle and that's pretty much the breaking point for me.


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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2011, 01:35:10 pm »
Haiti ... but our own response was underwhelming.

Don't you mean overwhelming?  It seemed like every celebrity and half of the South-based politicians were involved in some sort of donation-related news, be it concerts, food bank drives, personal donations, etc.

I personally haven't heard much regarding celebrity/politician aid for Japan, except for Justin Timberlake and someone-else-whom-I've-forgotten.  (This may be mainly because I've been without TV for almost 2 months now, so I don't watch the news as much).
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« Reply #80 on: March 22, 2011, 02:04:21 pm »
@wash,  I saw that sandra bullock donated 1mill to japan thru the red cross
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« Reply #81 on: March 22, 2011, 02:09:01 pm »
^ That is awesome!  Now I know of three (kind of...)!
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #82 on: March 22, 2011, 05:06:12 pm »
I read she did that for Haiti, but there was no mention of her doing this for Japan.

Read a Yahoo article, that was about how the Japanese love for bureaucracy, and licenses has really slowed down any aid responses. Doctors can't help, as they don't have Japanese medical licenses, drugs can't come in country, as not all have been authorized by authorities, etc. etc.etc.

On the bright side, the yakuza have been shipping gas and other things to the area, so that helps.

Where are all the student council presidents when you need them?
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #83 on: March 22, 2011, 06:22:35 pm »
On the bright side, the yakuza have been shipping gas and other things to the area, so that helps.

Okay, THAT is awesome!!!

Oh yeah, the other celebrity that I couldn't remember was Ichiro Suzuki.  He donated 100 million yen (around 1.25 million dollars).
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #84 on: March 23, 2011, 02:43:10 am »
Read a Yahoo article, that was about how the Japanese love for bureaucracy, and licenses has really slowed down any aid responses. Doctors can't help, as they don't have Japanese medical licenses, drugs can't come in country, as not all have been authorized by authorities, etc. etc.etc.
It takes such a strong temper...One even greater than mine(and believe me, mine will eat you).
The result?
In Japan: Distrust, worry and peaceful unrest
In America: ...Remember the WTO?

That would piss me off so bad if I were dealing with that situation. If everyone in my area had to deal with one disaster after another and the governing body was stepping in to police any outside help from reaching because they're not "licensed" to help or some equally ambiguous pointless crap...That would be the breaking point and that would more than likely start riots. The streets would run red. Either way you know it has nothing to do with licenses. It's just their every day racism in a box.

I pray for this wall of stupid to be crushed by the simple value for others. Some people are just way too stubborn and the worst are always in an important office trying to kill every voice of reason.
On the bright side, the yakuza have been shipping gas and other things to the area, so that helps.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #85 on: March 23, 2011, 07:37:34 am »
I read she did that for Haiti, but there was no mention of her doing this for Japan.

Yup she donated 1 mill

http://www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/news/sandra-bullock-donates-1-million-to-japan-disaster-relief-2011173

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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #86 on: March 23, 2011, 03:17:55 pm »
I guess that's why breaking all the rules is such a popular plot line in anime and manga, eh? Americans just seem to think you always break the rules somewhere along the line. lol

Thanks for the confirm Jaz. Is it still morning sickness in America Jaz?

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« Reply #87 on: March 23, 2011, 05:06:57 pm »
Yes, tho I am hoping it will be getting better next  week once I am in uge second trimester.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #88 on: March 23, 2011, 07:09:29 pm »
I guess that's why breaking all the rules is such a popular plot line in anime and manga, eh? Americans just seem to think you always break the rules somewhere along the line. lol
I suspect it is because in Japan, authority gets respect for its own stake.  Since this can quite confining, plots lines will have them being forced to break the rules with a lot of drama.
In the United States, authority gets distrust for its own stake.  So breaking the rules when it 'makes sense' can be done with little thought or drama.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #89 on: March 27, 2011, 06:07:31 pm »
I guess that's why breaking all the rules is such a popular plot line in anime and manga, eh? Americans just seem to think you always break the rules somewhere along the line. lol
I suspect it is because in Japan, authority gets respect for its own stake.  Since this can quite confining, plots lines will have them being forced to break the rules with a lot of drama.
In the United States, authority gets distrust for its own stake.  So breaking the rules when it 'makes sense' can be done with little thought or drama.


If you go a little deeper than that, I think other interesting factors show up. For example, back in the day, you did something outside the rules in Japan, you got your head chopped off. And back in the day of the US, there were no rules. Adn if you lived out west, who was going to be able to enforce them?

And later, there was a time when someone from the US government had a lot of clout, and was trusted. If they weren't there would have been a lot worse farming conditions that what ended up being down south. Everyone would have planted cotton every year, even if yields kept falling, as that was the only way to make money. Instead of planting legumes some years.

It wasn't until my life time, I think Watergate and Viet Nam were the breaking points, where the government lost the unblinking trust of the people. That and the phrase good enough for government work became a catch all phrase for a lousy over budget job.

I think in Japan you probably still have class representatives that are much like what they are often depicted as in anime. Do we have anyone like that here? I think there was two back in the public school I attended. More in the private school, but not by much.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #90 on: March 27, 2011, 08:46:55 pm »
I think in Japan you probably still have class representatives that are much like what they are often depicted as in anime. Do we have anyone like that here? I think there was two back in the public school I attended. More in the private school, but not by much.
Back in school I was that representative. All four years. I did a better job than most but it still sucked.

None of my friends in Japan went through anything similar so I have no way to compare.
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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #91 on: March 28, 2011, 09:39:31 am »
Anyone notice the new Aflac commercial don't have sound?  Gilbert Gottfried, the voice of the duck made a lot of tastless jokes about the Tsunami.

Aflac does a lot of business in Japan

Gilbert Gottfried was then fired.

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Re: 8.9 earthquake in Japan and a tsunami warning for oregon
« Reply #92 on: March 28, 2011, 11:15:14 am »
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