Kumoricon '08 Gaming Tournament Discussion

[HellSap]

Hello!
I just thought I'd be active and start a thread for discussion of whats going to be at Kcon this year.
Lets just throw out what I have so far.

Super Smash Bros Brawl
Soul Calibur 4
Guilty Gear XX : Accent Core Plus
Mario Kart Wii
Rock Band 4v4
Guitar Hero 3
DDR / Stepmania (Mix TBD by DancingTofu)
Halo 3
Tetris Attack
Tetris DS (or another DS game)
Pokemon (in conjunction with the Pokemon panel)

Possibles:
King of Fighters '98 - GK or not, I'll def MAME that ****. RESPECT.
Naruto: Rise of a Ninja /  Naruto Shippuuden Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX2 (?)
Final Fantasy Tactics (we could always duel on Tactics Ogre PSX!!!)
Melty Blood Act Cadenza ver B... (OR AA??!?)

PC is indefinite at the moment, but I'd like to see TF2 and DOTA tourneys, there was not a whole lot happening last year, but people had fun.

Please, throw out your suggestions... We will have a much more complete schedule this year around.

[Brendan2]

id like to see rise of ninja even though it doesnt have many characters still good game

[gothicadam]

Some type of handhled gaming toruney would be interesting lioke mario kart DS(or something in that area like naruto)

[DancingTofu]

BEMANI and Rhythm Games:

DDR/StepMania
-Singles
-Doubles?
-Freestyle?
PIU/Pro (if available)
-Singles?
-Doubles?
BeatMania/IIDX
-Singles? (what mix(es)?)
GH/FOF
Rock Band
GF/DM? (if available)
-Jam Tourney?
Pop'n Music?


Other ideas:
PSP - FFT
PC - Diablo 2 duels
MAME/PC - Puzzle Bobble/Bust-A-Move
MAME/PC - Joust
PS2 - dance pad SC4 (CF's with center buttons activated)
MAME/PC/PS2/Atari 2600 - Warlords
MAME/PC - King of Fighters (GK has a cab with '98 on it; we should discuss this with them.)
Video Game Scrabble (instead of words, use video game terms [charaters, titles, etc].  players must be able to give evidence that any term they use is relevant to a video game.  english 2- and 3-letter words would be fair game.)

[Ender]

DOTA FTW!!! ill so join if theres a dota tourny

[Kirakins]

Dunno how much interest there would be for this, but I am throwing it out there ...

Some sort of card game? Perhaps World of Warcraft even? *hopes*

[Jamiche]

Card tournaments are a separate discussion... are you interested in running one?

[Kirakins]

Possibly the boyfriend and I, yes We tried to get something going last year, but nothing ever happened >.<

[gothicadam]

Final Fantasy Tactics(psp) would be good.

[~boogiepop~]

I'm so excited for the DDR tournament and IIDX and Pop 'n would be awesome as well if those happened.

[gothicadam]

Stepmania tourneyXD

[Kyuubi]

TF2 tounry! Do it! That'd be awesome. XD I'm seriously wondering how good I compare to semi-local people. XD

[DancingTofu]

I'm so excited for the DDR tournament and IIDX and Pop 'n would be awesome as well if those happened.

Actually, we should talk to Gosha and Pantsu about Pop'N; they both have really good ASC's.  IIDX could be done, but the skill gaps between the people who would be playing would be hueg.

Stepmania tourneyXD

If there's a DDR tournament, this will probably be how it's done.  That or using DDR 5th Mix through MAME if there's a legal issue (I know someone with a 5th Mix ROM, so it would be 100% legal, while StepMania would be somewhat questionable).

If I'm providing the StepMania, I intend to have a contract written that will make it a fully legal application.  This is possible because:
1. Kumoricon is technically a private (member-only) event, not an event where one purchases admission, so StepMania is perfectly viable as long as the bylaws are still phrased in a manner that specifies that registration is for Altonimbus membership, not for Kumoricon admission.
2. It would be on free play

[vincent]

If we're getting computers from BackSpace, I'd would love a Team Fortress 2 Tournament.

Another cool thing would be an idea I'm jacking from PAX last year was their awesome Handheld tournament.  It was pretty cool.  Get some buttons or something, then challange for a button on any random game, rules set between the two people first.  Man, it was amazing thing to do while waiting in lines for stuff.  I'm pretty sure it would be a popular thing to do, even for casual play.  Everybody wins! : )

[dshwshr55]

Remember the movie "Hackers"? A Wipeout - Wipeout Pulse tournament would please me! Unfortunately, the fan base is guaranteed to be small T_T

I'd also prefer Mario Kart: Double Dash. Most people like the co-op thing and sharing the glory with their gunman. Of course, if you wanna bump me and my girl from the number 1 spot we've had for the last 3 or 4 years, you'll have to get the next Mario kart ~_^

[gothicadam]

I'm so excited for the DDR tournament and IIDX and Pop 'n would be awesome as well if those happened.

Actually, we should talk to Gosha and Pantsu about Pop'N; they both have really good ASC's.  IIDX could be done, but the skill gaps between the people who would be playing would be hueg.

Stepmania tourneyXD

If there's a DDR tournament, this will probably be how it's done.  That or using DDR 5th Mix through MAME if there's a legal issue (I know someone with a 5th Mix ROM, so it would be 100% legal, while StepMania would be somewhat questionable).

If I'm providing the StepMania, I intend to have a contract written that will make it a fully legal application.  This is possible because:
1. Kumoricon is technically a private (member-only) event, not an event where one purchases admission, so StepMania is perfectly viable as long as the bylaws are still phrased in a manner that specifies that registration is for Altonimbus membership, not for Kumoricon admission.
2. It would be on free play

mmmmm this is perfect, what songs are gonna be on stepmania:O

[HellSap]

Wipeout would be amazing.  Updated first post with info.  Does anyone still play Halo 3?  I also sent in the update on the gaming section of the kcon website, so we should have some stuff up there relatively soon.
Keep those ideas coming.

We can always host something small with the prize being a warm fuzzy feeling inside.  It all depends on the turnout and our prize budget.  lol.

[black marth 07]

I can bring Naruto 4 and totally own everyone like last year . . at 07.

[DancingTofu]

what songs are gonna be on stepmania:O

Well, here's what I'd like to have:
-All songs from all official DDR mixes (1264 songs as of DDRSuperNOVA2 US Homeversion)
-All songs from ITG1 and ITG2, plus available songs and charts from ITG3.
-Custom songs and charts not featured on DDR made or supplied by Kumoricon attendees.

If a tournament is held on stepmania, it will use all 1264 DDR songs, plus all ITG 1 and 2 songs, sorted by mix.  Alphabetical sorting will be available for this.  The decision to use or not use Marvelous timing will be made by the people competing in each round.  I'll make an official topic for the DDR/ITG tourney once I have a more definite plan and absolute confirmation that at least two high-quality pads will be available for such a purpose (whether I build them, the con buys them, or someone else lends them).

[pantsu]

well if there was a stepmania comp. i know who would win *coughCODXcough* stepmania is easy

i know i posted this in another thread but yah i will bring my IIDX and Pop'n Music stuff... maybe run a fun tourny for both of them depending on who is interested... 

also still waiting to hear whether or not i will be mixing some music up there this year haha awesome

[Zenn]

definately gotta be a Soul CAlibur 3 or 4 tourney

[pantsu]

ok so now i see that some people are interested in the popn music/IIDX stuff

who can i talk to so I can make the popn and iidx tourny a legit deal?

[HellSap]

PM me and we can discuss that.
More tournies the merrier, but if you mean "real deal" - shwag for prizes is still up in the air, but you can definitely get a time slot.

[DancingTofu]

ok so now i see that some people are interested in the popn music/IIDX stuff

who can i talk to so I can make the popn and iidx tourny a legit deal?

I'm pretty much running BEMANI gaming, so keep me posted on what you want to do here. (although Hellsap and Jamiche are the ones to talk to about getting it official)

[Cdreed25]

Haha Brawl and Tetris Attack ftw...

[TsukikoAiko]

GGAC+! Hopefully it's on Sat/Mon so us poor little GG cosplayers can show up *hint hint*

I'm not sure about Melty Blood though. Most of the people I know who'd play it aren't able to come or are going to be in Vegas. If enough people correct me than go for it though.

[Hawkeye]

Once you have the tournaments finalized and set up, could you gaming staff members let me know via pm?  I may want to post extra yojimbo for certain tournaments as crowd control.

[kyletothejones]

You know I'll be there for the GG++! Let me know though if it's possible that I could run a tasty Chu Chu Rocket tournament! If so, I'll buy a pizza and give it to the winner or something.

[somanyturtles]

For the Brawl Tournament this year, could we possipbly get a better matching system than the cruster death that was the melee tournament last year. May i suggest a limited sign up to start and stages that dont effect gameplay.

[Kurokaizoku]

Once you have the tournaments finalized and set up, could you gaming staff members let me know via pm?  I may want to post extra yojimbo for certain tournaments as crowd control.

That is actually a good idea since during tournaments the crowd gets larger and is harder to control i.e people not properly checking weapons/bags(required in the game room), or people trying to steal(although I don't believe we had much issue with that last year...)

[Wobbifacorn]

For the Pokemon Tourament, there has to be some rules.  And what if someone brought DDR hottest party for wii as well? How does that sound

[Hawkeye]

Once you have the tournaments finalized and set up, could you gaming staff members let me know via pm?  I may want to post extra yojimbo for certain tournaments as crowd control.

That is actually a good idea since during tournaments the crowd gets larger and is harder to control i.e people not properly checking weapons/bags(required in the game room), or people trying to steal(although I don't believe we had much issue with that last year...)

Well, thanks for someone agreeing with me.  Rene, I will count on you and Mark to let me know then.  Especially since you're growing a con-baby and will not necessarily be able to run over and chat with someone at a moment's notice.

[Kurokaizoku]

Once you have the tournaments finalized and set up, could you gaming staff members let me know via pm?  I may want to post extra yojimbo for certain tournaments as crowd control.

That is actually a good idea since during tournaments the crowd gets larger and is harder to control i.e people not properly checking weapons/bags(required in the game room), or people trying to steal(although I don't believe we had much issue with that last year...)

Well, thanks for someone agreeing with me.  Rene, I will count on you and Mark to let me know then.  Especially since you're growing a con-baby and will not necessarily be able to run over and chat with someone at a moment's notice.

Oh trust me, I've thought about my limitations in the room this year. I can only help with door and game check and some rounds in the room. And I'll be making Lucas be my bitch for anything I need lol. Well, I'll *try* that but it probably won't work >.>  I just hope we keep the check out system we had last year but I have a bad feeling most of it was Morgans doing, but I have amped my skills on excel this year so I could always set it up with the changes we had discussed last year to make it more organized.

[Kurokaizoku]

Meg, what I think would work best is if we made sure the Yojimbo manager or at the least you will have a list of the tournament and there times so you know when to have extras for us. And when you may not need as many extras.

[DancingTofu]

And what if someone brought DDR hottest party for wii as well? How does that sound

That would be cool, but not for the tournament.

[Jamiche]

Hey Rene, let me know if you need any help with check out system... I was wanting to know how you guys set it up (and I actually have a spare tower that I was thinking we could use in gaming, since I know we've been wanting one there.)  Also, don't forget we have a liason with Ops this year... if we need anything from them, he's the one we make do the running

[Kurokaizoku]

Hey Rene, let me know if you need any help with check out system... I was wanting to know how you guys set it up (and I actually have a spare tower that I was thinking we could use in gaming, since I know we've been wanting one there.)  Also, don't forget we have a liason with Ops this year... if we need anything from them, he's the one we make do the running

Last year it was just basic excel spreadsheets set up for who checked what in and a seperate sheet for the actual checkout method. So as long as a computer has office we're good with that. Also we had the label maker, Mark said was the cons I do believe, and that was very handy for marking every item with the name of who it belongs to. Some of my controllers and all of our games still have a sticker saying 'Saishi' on them.

[DancingTofu]

Keep in mind that if we get stuck with a computer without Microsoft Office, OpenOffice can read the .xls files and it's downloadable freeware.

I've still got white dots on 5 of my DDR games, my copy of BMUS, and my IIDX controller from Kumoricon '06 lol.

[dshwshr55]

That reminds me! When we were playing ITG, I didn't see one of the last three songs on your file. Either Vortex, Pandemonium, or Bend Your Mind. I think it was the latter.

[dshwshr55]

Oh yeah! I'm assuming there will be a Mario Kart Wii tournament? If there is, will you have to use the wheel, or is a controller okay? Well, I'm sure it hasn't really been considered yet, either ^^;;;

[DancingTofu]

That reminds me! When we were playing ITG, I didn't see one of the last three songs on your file. Either Vortex, Pandemonium, or Bend Your Mind. I think it was the latter.

Nah, I've got all of 'em unlocked.

I have it set to difficulty sort [hard] so that might have been it.

[DarkKnightUltima]

For the Tetris Attack. How about in the finals. Switch it to the point mode?

[HellSap]

Oh yeah! I'm assuming there will be a Mario Kart Wii tournament? If there is, will you have to use the wheel, or is a controller okay? Well, I'm sure it hasn't really been considered yet, either ^^;;;

Yes to the tournament, no to forcing people to use the wheel.  Have you seen that thing?  Theres never been a force on controllers, so use whatever suits your preference, as long as it doesn't use macros and the like.

[Kurokaizoku]

Keep in mind that if we get stuck with a computer without Microsoft Office, OpenOffice can read the .xls files and it's downloadable freeware.

I've still got white dots on 5 of my DDR games, my copy of BMUS, and my IIDX controller from Kumoricon '06 lol.

I can always just bring a copy of office 97. It doesnt require registration therefore can be a pirated copy. It's what I've always used and will be reinstalling on my computer once my dad gets me another copy >.>
OpenOffice is an option if someone would rather not have pirated software however.

And as for teh white dots, they'll have to be changed for check in. Well, the dot can stay but a label would be added with your name....even memory cards get tagged.

[Kurokaizoku]

Oh yeah! I'm assuming there will be a Mario Kart Wii tournament? If there is, will you have to use the wheel, or is a controller okay? Well, I'm sure it hasn't really been considered yet, either ^^;;;

Yes to the tournament, no to forcing people to use the wheel.  Have you seen that thing?  Theres never been a force on controllers, so use whatever suits your preference, as long as it doesn't use macros and the like.

We can always get dad's wheels in case anyone *does* want to use a wheel...

[Jamiche]

Software for the computer is not a problem.. I will make sure it has the programs.  If you need help setting up the spreadsheet, let me know.. I'm pretty familiar with Excel

The con owns 4 wheels, so they at least will be available to use.

[Kurokaizoku]

Software for the computer is not a problem.. I will make sure it has the programs.  If you need help setting up the spreadsheet, let me know.. I'm pretty familiar with Excel

The con owns 4 wheels, so they at least will be available to use.

The spreadsheets are pretty basic. It doesn't really even touch the actual uses of excel just the super basics of it. It's easy enough that even someone who has never used excel can manage the check in/out system.

[Hawkeye]

Meg, what I think would work best is if we made sure the Yojimbo manager or at the least you will have a list of the tournament and there times so you know when to have extras for us. And when you may not need as many extras.

No worries there, as I'm Yojimbo assistant manager and do most of the question asking due to kylite's work schedule (he's the yojimbo manager).

[TomtheFanboy]

So is this still the tourney list?

Super Smash Bros Brawl
Soul Calibur 4
Guilty Gear XX : Accent Core Plus
Mario Kart Wii
Rock Band 4v4
Guitar Hero 3
DDR / Stepmania (Mix TBD by DancingTofu)
Halo 3
Tetris Attack
Tetris DS (or another DS game)
Pokemon (in conjunction with the Pokemon panel)


I'm going to be pushing for Pocky club members to join each tournament so we can act like a kind of corporate sponsor. I've got a couple of people lined up but I want to make sure that I have the right list for everyone.

[HellSap]

So far, yes.  Although, Halo 3 is sorta sub-par to CoD4 at this point, and prob could get axed.
But I dunno what the fps community is like, I'd rather be seeing TF2 and Dota on the PC's, and TF2 owns.