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Offline guspasho

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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2007, 10:34:21 am »
Sorry about the not-staying-logged-in issue. This is because we have two URLs, "kumoricon.com/forums" and "kumoricon.org/forums". When you switch between using one and the other, you lose your session and you don't appear logged in until you create a login session using the new URL.

The forums "live" on .com, and are mirrored over to .org. This isn't a problem except that the server setting for the forum for which URL it will use when you initiate a session only permits one URL.

Anyway, the reason this issue started to reappear is because we mixed up the URLs in that setting. It's fixed now. Use .com and you'll be fine.
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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2007, 11:12:03 am »
I would like to lodge a formal complaint against taking away our Spam post count. I know that being a spammer has about the same effect as being a /b/er but I liked having a high post count! I think that a post count should reflect how much time you put into the forums, even if it is just spam. I've gotten to know many of the con goes from the spam thread. And we've all become good friends!

*Puppy Dog Eyes* So please... *sniff* give me back my post count...

Spam is fun but spam is also spam. The spam forum is there to be crazy and have fun, but if the postcounts are to mean anything they should not show how big of a spammer a person is. That makes the postcount metric meaningless (if any meaning could have been drawn from it at all.) I realize there are all sorts of problems with using postcount to measure anything but the postcount should ideally be an indicator of how valuable of a contributor a member is, and postcount should be a badge of pride for those whose high postcounts reflect their significant and valuable contributions to the community through the forums. Artificially inflating your postcount through spamming, of course, detracts from the reward postcount provides to those contributors.

Maybe there's no point in attempting to measure anything with postcounts because of all the inherent inaccuracies, but I'd rather try at least rather than banish postcounts altogether. (And the current forum software does allow me to remove them from convenient view. You can probably configure your own profile so you don't have to look at anyone's postcount too if you want.) I've participated in close-knit communities where postcount was only a distraction but I don't think we're that far in the other direction.
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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2007, 08:28:44 pm »
Sorry about the not-staying-logged-in issue. This is because we have two URLs, "kumoricon.com/forums" and "kumoricon.org/forums". When you switch between using one and the other, you lose your session and you don't appear logged in until you create a login session using the new URL.

The forums "live" on .com, and are mirrored over to .org. This isn't a problem except that the server setting for the forum for which URL it will use when you initiate a session only permits one URL.

Anyway, the reason this issue started to reappear is because we mixed up the URLs in that setting. It's fixed now. Use .com and you'll be fine.
Correction: You should use .org. You might have a problem if you use .com. We've also now changed the Forums link on the front page to always point to the forums with .org, regardless of whether you arrived at the main kumoricon site using .com or .org. This is all because the official URL is www.kumoricon.org but .com mirrors it.

If you have any problems, try only using .org, and logging out completely and logging back in, and if that still doesn't work, we'll keep looking into the issue.
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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2007, 08:29:49 pm »
^ i concur, easy for me to say because i have a high post count but i have also been a member of the forums for years now and thats why i have a high post count not cuz of spam if you look at my demos its pretty well spaced out over posts (with a fair chunk to spam)
it was a little anyoing to see my listing getting bumped down because of spamers and not real posts
***edit as i just have noticed the spam posts subtrated from the total forum post count, i thought mr stash was just talking about posts in spam area not counting***
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superjaz, that is jaz with one z count um ONE z!
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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2007, 08:52:44 pm »
I would like to lodge a formal complaint against taking away our Spam post count. I know that being a spammer has about the same effect as being a /b/er but I liked having a high post count! I think that a post count should reflect how much time you put into the forums, even if it is just spam. I've gotten to know many of the con goes from the spam thread. And we've all become good friends!

*Puppy Dog Eyes* So please... *sniff* give me back my post count...

Spam is fun but spam is also spam. The spam forum is there to be crazy and have fun, but if the postcounts are to mean anything they should not show how big of a spammer a person is. That makes the postcount metric meaningless (if any meaning could have been drawn from it at all.) I realize there are all sorts of problems with using postcount to measure anything but the postcount should ideally be an indicator of how valuable of a contributor a member is, and postcount should be a badge of pride for those whose high postcounts reflect their significant and valuable contributions to the community through the forums. Artificially inflating your postcount through spamming, of course, detracts from the reward postcount provides to those contributors.

Maybe there's no point in attempting to measure anything with postcounts because of all the inherent inaccuracies, but I'd rather try at least rather than banish postcounts altogether. (And the current forum software does allow me to remove them from convenient view. You can probably configure your own profile so you don't have to look at anyone's postcount too if you want.) I've participated in close-knit communities where postcount was only a distraction but I don't think we're that far in the other direction.

I think this is a FANTASTIC thing honestly!  I agree that post count in a way is a measure of how valuable someone is the the forums and when I would recieve IMs from people who have been here a month bragging about how they passed my post count (of course all in the Spam section) it was frustrating.  I mean it is great for someone to post and get to know people but we want people to contribute more than  "look at my lolcats!"  I also feel that if someone wants to show that they mean more, this will really force them to search out other aspects of the forums and expand themselves to make an impact in their post count.

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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2007, 10:03:08 am »
haha I agree with the above ^^^

it should also stop all the frustrating post ninja-ing. God I hate that >:\

Whee anyways this new forum thing is great, it reminds  me of the matrix for some reason. I should post something significant.

I can't think of anything, darn :c I guess I'm a spammer at heart as well. I MUST REFORM!!! *runs away*
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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2007, 05:45:43 pm »
So posting in SPAM doesnt count twoard your rank?
That kinda kills the fun...  :'(

What my old rank still hasnt been fixed, I have more than Mustach and he had at least 1,000 more than me.
Or did you take away old spam posts from it?


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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2007, 05:55:47 pm »
Spam no longer counts toward the postcount, and due to excessive spamming from some, this has been applied retroactively.
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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2007, 06:21:44 pm »
Tonight, sometime probably shortly after midnight, the main web site (but not the forums) will be going down briefly for software updates--hopefully for less than a half hour, but possibly longer.
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« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2007, 03:27:17 am »
Tonight, sometime probably shortly after midnight, the main web site (but not the forums) will be going down briefly for software updates--hopefully for less than a half hour, but possibly longer.

The web site is back up after a successful software update. It was down for about 10 minutes. :)
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Re: Forum updates
« Reply #60 on: November 04, 2007, 09:29:43 am »
OOOH! There is a LINK to KUMORICON.ORG up there now!!! ^___^

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