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« on: April 26, 2004, 12:52:51 pm »
So AMV creators can get a head start on things, what are the limitations, format and things needed for each entry?

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2004, 07:13:55 pm »
We just recruited our AMV coordinator at SakuraCon, we'll be getting in touch with him to start writing out rules and such for the convention, and we'll get them posted as soon as possible.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2004, 12:40:56 pm »
Yeay.  That gives me time to figure out my new program.   :?

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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2004, 12:30:11 pm »
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We just recruited our AMV coordinator at SakuraCon, we'll be getting in touch with him to start writing out rules and such for the convention, and we'll get them posted as soon as possible.

You didn't get Chris Arnesen, did you? o_O

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2004, 03:07:20 pm »
Nope, but this guy is just as cool, or cooler ^_^
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2004, 08:19:14 pm »
OK... I'm serious this time. I'm actually going to finish this AMV... Honest... umm... maybe I can enter my Scum of the Earth video...?
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2004, 10:47:21 pm »
That depends on if they meet the con's standards


Which hopefully will be out soon? ;)

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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2004, 11:24:29 pm »
Yes, they should be out soon.  The guy running our AMV contest will be up and running soon.  We met him at SakuraCon, and he seemed wholey interested in running the AMV contest, so hopefully we can get him up to speed and on the forums asap.

Sorry for the time delay, again, we're moving as fast as our chibi legs can carry us.  ;-P
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2004, 12:29:45 am »
Time for Grupo Hanamaru to get cooking.  8)
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2004, 07:32:31 am »
I can't wait untill the amv contest at Kumori con!  More Comedy amv goodness!  Sakura cons comedy catogory was really good, I like all of them, but ended up voting for the Lion King.   :D   This is gonna be fun to watch!  (the action/other catogories are my other favs!)

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2004, 12:25:04 pm »
Hopefully the techs at Kumoricon will have a better setup than the one at SakuraCon :|

Sync errors, skipping audio. Bah, I say! Bah!

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2004, 01:36:26 pm »
we shall have the best audio in all of con-dom... er... you know what I mean.  ;-)
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2004, 03:26:21 pm »
The funny thing about the audio skipping at the Sakuracon amv show was that it only skipped when the vid had like 5 seconds left. And it did it on all of the vids.
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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2004, 11:35:13 am »
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Hopefully the techs at Kumoricon will have a better setup than the one at SakuraCon :|

Sync errors, skipping audio. Bah, I say! Bah!
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The funny thing about the audio skipping at the Sakuracon amv show was that it only skipped when the vid had like 5 seconds left. And it did it on all of the vids.

PNTA did a great job overall with the AMV contest and the rest of the events in the Emerald Ballroom. We were really lucky that their DVD player would play our DVD-R videos, it was one of two at the convention that would play DVD-R and the only that had Component Out for their equipment.

The audio sync was caused because of the length of the cables and the various hardware that they run their video and audio through. I asked if they had a way to delay the audio to correct it but they don't have that type of equipment.

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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2004, 12:40:20 pm »
How does the length of the cables affect the audio?

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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2004, 02:08:17 pm »
Well, to put it simply, the long the cord (for anything) the bigger the chance for degredation in the information being sent though.  Say, if you had a 40 foot cable, the sound going though won't be as good as sound/information going though a 20 foot cable.  hmm... that's the jist of it, anyways!

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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2004, 03:16:20 pm »
not to mention the increased chance of people walking on the cable, the greater risk of interference from other RF signals, and the--while minute--delay created from long cables.  that's why, if you have a home stereo, even if one speaker is closer than another, you should have the cables be the same length so the signal gets to the speaker at the same time.  while the phasing created by having a 10 foot wire and a 15 foot wire is neglegable... the difference between 80 feet and 120 feet can be noticeable.  

I don't envy the sound people for sakuracon... but the issues that did exist probably shouldn't have had they been adiquately prepared.  But, the reality of AV work is... if it can go wrong, then it probably will.  Ah the wonder about being a smaller con...
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2004, 08:54:14 am »
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How does the length of the cables affect the audio?

The big problem was the video processing hardware and video switchers PNTA uses. They caused about a quarter to half-second delay between the video and audio. Most large television productions use an audio delay out from the sound mixer to adjust for that. PNTA didn't have that capability.

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2004, 09:36:11 am »
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You didn't get Chris Arnesen, did you? o_O


I would very much like to know just exactly your what beef with Chris is?

He has worked VERY hard to put together an incredible contest. If you're mad because your AMV wasn't shown, it's a contest and no amv contest that I know of shows all of the entry's they recieve. (not Expo, or AWA even) There are just too many entry's to conceiveably show every single one. The job of a coordinator is to determine which ones are the most entertaining and well done. (by appointing judges of some sort)

Now if you're upset because of video quality, you have no one to blame but yourself. When a person receives even 10 videos and each one is in a different codec, its really hard to just show them as is. You have to choose a format to work with and then convert each one to that format, in order to be able to edit them together into one long presentation. Maybe next year you should ask the coordinator which format would be easiest to work with. Basically, if the coordinator doesn't have to process your vid, it won't potentially loose quality.

And lastly, no contest goes off without a hitch. (need I mention AX 2002?) I think that Chris's contests go better than most. HECK they even start on time-ish, give or take ten minutes. (not an hour and a half-late)

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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2004, 10:30:35 am »
now now.... don't make me lock the thread.  while that isn't what I would consider flaming, this isn't the place for arguing about what the problem was.  My comment and the comments Sheltie and Darkstar seem plenty innocent... and yours for the most part...

we're going to do our best at Kumoricon to make this all work and have people come away like they did last year with a "wow, that was a really great con".  

Yes, hitches happen... that's why I'm here, and my fellow jack of all trades Procyon.
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2004, 10:35:42 am »
AMV's... ooo... I've been making them like crazy since Sakura Con xD  I finish them in a day or so... -.-; don't know why everyone thinks their very difficult to make... maybe I just have a flare :P j/k, but I should enter one of my Moulin Rouge AMV's... or perhaps an Annie Get Your Gun one xD just for kicks... if you've ever seen Annie Get Your Gun you would love the AMV's I made with the songs...
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2004, 10:54:45 pm »
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Quote from: "PIE"
You didn't get Chris Arnesen, did you? o_O


I would very much like to know just exactly your what beef with Chris is?

He has worked VERY hard to put together an incredible contest. If you're mad because your AMV wasn't shown, it's a contest and no amv contest that I know of shows all of the entry's they recieve. (not Expo, or AWA even) There are just too many entry's to conceiveably show every single one. The job of a coordinator is to determine which ones are the most entertaining and well done. (by appointing judges of some sort)

Now if you're upset because of video quality, you have no one to blame but yourself. When a person receives even 10 videos and each one is in a different codec, its really hard to just show them as is. You have to choose a format to work with and then convert each one to that format, in order to be able to edit them together into one long presentation. Maybe next year you should ask the coordinator which format would be easiest to work with. Basically, if the coordinator doesn't have to process your vid, it won't potentially loose quality.

And lastly, no contest goes off without a hitch. (need I mention AX 2002?) I think that Chris's contests go better than most. HECK they even start on time-ish, give or take ten minutes. (not an hour and a half-late)

Actually it has little to do with most of what you said. Try not to lecture when you don't know the full story, and I don't want to sound rude when I say that. I'm just saying is all.

I apologize for posting that thing with Chris actually. I was just irritated with some of the problems with the contest, namely how the video/audio was off. I shouldn't have made that comment, but it still irked me.

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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2004, 11:30:56 pm »
As a lurker to this thread, I just wanted to mention I'm impressed about your apology; it's good to see our forum with decent etiquette. :-)
It's hard to get AMV's done correctly for sure, and I don't envy the position of our AMV Director this year. We'll work hard to get things right, and the more things you guys list that can go wrong, the better we'll be!

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I apologize for posting that thing with Chris actually. I was just irritated with some of the problems with the contest, namely how the video/audio was off. I shouldn't have made that comment, but it still irked me.
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2004, 07:12:49 pm »
Yay! I got this working!

Hello: I'm Guy Letourneau, and I'll be coordinating
the AMV contest. I've volunteered in several capacities
at SF & anime cons, and I've also arranges AMV showings
at non-anima cons (It's really fun to see folks in fandom
zones 'next door' to anime, such as SF fans, discovering
AMV's for the first time!)

Consider the following to be 'floating a trial balloon,' rather than
being a hard-and-fast iron RULE of LAW. I am experimenting with
defining different kinds of categories than we've usually seen at
AMV contests. So let me know what you think:

TENTATIVE AMV Categories, and their
approximate show order:

1. Action & Adventure [6]
2. Romantic / Drama [4]
3. Period / Traditional Japanese Setting [6]
4. SF & Futuristic Setting [6]
5. Comedy [6]
6. Trailers [7] and Commercial Parodies [7]

The number in [brackets] is the number of entries I will
show during the contest. This may change depending on
the number of entries that come in.

TIME LIMITS:

The time limit is 4:50 seconds for all categories except
Trailers & Commercials. Trailer time limit is 2:45, and
commercials are limited to 30 sec. (Most commercials
nowadays are 15 sec, although in the '60s & 70's they
used to be up to 1 min long.)


SUBMITTING THINGS:

I'll be defining things more clearly as I explore a bit over the
next couple of weeks, but as a start, if it don't play on Zoom
Player, Media Player Classic, and XINE (Linux) then I may have
problems getting it to display & run properly. SO the only
CONSTRAINT I'm considering so far (and I hate constraints -
let's bee as free & creative as possible!) is NO WMV's, RA's
or MOV formats.

Mpg's, DivX up to 5.05, and Avi's are OK.

I'd like to ask that entries be burned to CD and MAILED to me,
and I'd set the deadline at IN MY Hands (or mailbox) by 28-Aug-04.
I'd like to use the organizational address of Kumoricon if the
folks in charge of that decision would consent. (Please?  ^.^; )

Your comments & suggestions are always welcome.
I look forward to presenting all of your works, and
rousing the audience wtih your talents, stories,
breathtaking effects, and comedy suprises!

- Guy Letourneau
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2004, 07:18:29 pm »
Hello Guy... please email staff@kumoricon.org with your information and we'll get you set up so that you don't just look like some wacko in the forums.  ;-P
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« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2004, 03:37:48 pm »
Good to have you on board, Guy. Welcome. :)

I'm a little puzzled on the fourth entry genre.
Period/Traditional Japanese Setting?

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« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2004, 05:35:22 pm »
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I'm a little puzzled on the fourth entry genre.
Period/Traditional Japanese Setting?


Here's your chance to stand alongside the likes of Kurosawa Akira ... :-D You don't necessarily HAVE to tell us a story which takes place in the Heian or Tokugawa eras, but the challenge here is to bring out the JAPANESE-ness of anime with the sound and images you are presenting.

Source materials can be anything which showcases (or has as a backdrop) traditional Japanese craft, arts, activities, culture, mythology, religion and/or attitude. For video, this might mean (and PLEASE don't stop here - reach out for anything inspiring...)  but: Tsukikage Ran, Hakkenden, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Kai-doh-Maru, Milleneum Actress, Hikaru no Go, Ninja Scroll, Kenshin, some bits of Gasaraki, or that one ep of 'Animatrix...'

Also, sometimes a series in a modern or futuristic setting has throwbacks to Traditional Japan: Shogi (the game) shows up in Evangelion and Bebop, and several series have one conspicuously 'traditional' character: Nami (Silent Mobius) Motoko (Love Hina,) Goemon (Lupin,)  and one of the Happy Lesson gals does iaido (I forgot their names, ) and Cap't Tylor's XO Yamamoto keeps up his kendo. PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER the previous list to be 'closed.' Use any source material you can think of, as long as you can get that Edo-thing going.

Or you might rustle up some traditional Japanese music (enka, funa-uta, koto music?) and paint a story or a setting, perhaps tying in modern images in a way that ties into a special 'something' which hearkens back over the centuries ...

BUT: Note that the landscapes and costume designs of '12 Kingdoms' and 'Fushigi Yuugi,' are primarily CHINESE; and Gensoumaden Saiyuki ("Journey to the West") is also a Chinese legend. Also watch out for 'Spirited Away,' in which Miyazaki masterfully blends traditional Japanese and Chinese influences, but there may be a story you can tell us... Same goes for Condor Hero: iffy, but possibly do-able. Although nothing is impossible for AMV makers, Lodoss, Slayers, Rayearth, Those Who Hunt Elves, and Scrapped Princess might be difficult to use, because they're either in some kind of 'generic FRPG' setting with more Western medieval trappings, while the alternate worlds of El Hazard have more of a Mediterranean/Arabic feel to them.

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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2004, 07:17:53 pm »
Millenium Actress and Tokyo Godfathers come to mind.

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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2004, 06:48:05 am »
i loved the AMV's at kumoricon is there going to be a chance to buy, like a DVD of what you going to show? i  would love to buy one to show my friends,  they were so good and funny and dramatic
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« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2004, 07:26:10 am »
We might make a CD of the winners.
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« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2004, 12:50:59 am »
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We might make a CD of the winners.


To sell to loyal fans, right?
RIGHT???

BTW, did anyone keep thinking about the AMV-disc-burning room?
The computers on a LAN with disc burners and tons of AMVs, you select a number of AMVs and burn them onto a disc for a nominal fee to pay for the blank disc.
Maybe we could donate the money to AMV.org or something! Anybody here got contacts with the people running that site?
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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2004, 12:54:56 am »
well, we'll see what we can do.  Unfortunately, we're not too sure about what--if any--net access there will be provided by the con.  While we will work on having a station that someone can walk up to and watch provided media on, I'm not sure whether that will be something someone can burn from or not.  

But, I think we definately will have CDs that will be sold for a nominal fee of those winning amv's, etc.  That is up to the AMV coordinator.
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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2004, 01:12:30 am »
Well, the thing I was suggesting wouldn't need the internet actuallly. I was thinking of a LAN or maybe just one computer where people could get discs of AMVs burnt. I know that I'm still looking for AMVs I saw at last year's con.

Heck, if somebody would monitor the thing (like at a manned booth) I could volunteer my computer.

Maybe the person has a list of their AMVs (with the creator, anime, song, and file size listed )and the customer signs up for a list of songs equaling the alotment for a CD (700 Megs or so?). The person at the computer burns the disc and then hold it for the person to pick up later. The money could be donated to AMV.org later and probably cover the cost of discs and jewel cases or slip covers.

Heck, this doesn't sound like a bad booth now that I think of it...... maybe I could borrow some other friends' computers.......... Maybe I should take it to another thread...
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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2004, 02:27:44 am »
mplayer is supose to be able to play just about all formats if anyone wants it here a link
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/info.html

i think it is linux only

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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2004, 02:28:27 pm »
You would still need the right codecs (Xvid, Divx 5.xx, whatever)

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« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2004, 07:35:13 am »
Couple of questions:

1) We don't actually have to BE there to submit AMVs, right? I've lived in the Portland area for pretty much the past 24 years, but happen to be at graduate school in Korea and won't get back until after the convention, so would I be able to just mail my entries in and watch the results online?

2) Are we limited to one entry, one entry per category, no limits, or something else?

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« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2004, 08:46:54 pm »
Just a curious question... why aren't WMV formats allowed to be entered?
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« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2004, 12:18:23 am »
I think all questions will be answered once we get the requirements and information sheet on the contest.

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« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2004, 10:55:50 pm »
Since any form of AMV distribution is out of the question as far as offical functions though, can I at least request that information is given out for the AMVs shown?

It'd make it a lot easier to go home and download them later if we had a list of names (creator/anime/song/studio).
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« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2004, 07:56:20 pm »
1) About the contest entry CD. Neat idea. The problem comes in where money gets exchanged for AMVs which are made up various of bits of (usually) licensed materials for which most of us are too broke to go around and whistle up 'legitimate' distribution rights. I think it's a bit iffy for anyone associated with running the con to be touching money while distributing AMV's. Maybe I'm just paranoid about the legal environment nowadays. (checks out the back window for black helicopters... :-D)

2) I really like the idea of a LAN set-up where the winners (or heck, ALL the entries) can sit in a file that people can grab & burn on the sytems they bring & jack in. If some Cat-V saintly person decides to PRIVATELY burn & distribute, making his/her own arrangements for media cost - even BYOBD (Bring Your Own Blank Disk) then maybe THAT would work. I dunno, & will defer to con staff for their say & opinions.

3) Remote submissions:  Mail media to:

Kumoricon
ATTN: AMVs
P.O. Box 3213
Eugene, OR 97403

This could be a CD, DVD or a ZIP disk (100MB or 250MB.) I will TRY to remember to have the submitted media with me at the con, so if you REALLY need it back there's a good chance I can have your stuff for you to pick up.

Kumoricon Staff has set a mail-in deadline of 8-August-04.

4) How I plan to run the showing: I've run a couple of AMV showing at cons, which went off reasonably well, using the following set-up. However, I'm not a techno-uber-geek ("dammit, Jim, I'm a MECHANICAL engineer, not a computer expert!") Here goes:

I will bring a 'Shuttle' box, running Windows 2003 Server Professional on it. I will set up directories for each category, with 5-second 'dummy' files in between. The order of showing within each category will be determined randomly by physical dice rolls, shortly before the con. The file names will be renamed with prefixes "01-" "02-" etc. to keep them in order in each directory. Showing will consist of a brief verbal introduction to the categoy to be shown, then mouse-drag or grab all the files in the directory, and hit 'Play.'

I will then show snippets of the videos in quick succession during the voting phase. How about each entrant include a TEN SECOND, no-more-mo-less snippet? This way, instead AMV staff trying to figure out the most memorable section, or artificialy selecting the opening 10 sec, or some other uniform but arbitrary method, why no have the creator select the 10-second slice? They know their work the best - What do you guys think?

5) Why no WMVs? Because (a) the resolution isn't as clear as .avi and .mpg on the above system, and (b) you need Windows Media Player 9. The licensing agreement of WMV includes phrases about letting Microsoft check up on what you've been doing with the media player, install & change things automatically whenever you're connected to the internet, and you even allow them to access 'other areas of your computer' which they don't tell you WHAT. So, I hit "I do NOT agree" and will have nothing to do with Windows Media Player 9. So, contest entries need to be in more open-source formats like MPG or AVI. Ra's and mov's usually BITE for quality, so let's stick with the mainline: AVI and MPG. Sooner or later these works will al hit the 'net, and it's nice to go in knowing that your works will be as widely accessible as possible.

I would like to run the show in Winamp 5, but I can switch to an earlier version of Windows Media Player if it BOMBS. Note: as I said, I'm not a computer geek. I'm what marketers call a 'late adopter.' I stick with something that works for as long as possible, change ONCE, then hang on as long as possible again before changing. The system I will use currently plays MPGs and AVIs well, and DivX up to 5.05. I'm not upgrading. If somebody releases a codec in mid August, and you encode with it, and your AMV doesn't play on 'Ol Sawbones' here, it won't show at the contest - because it doesn't play on the system.

6) Posting of Submission Guidelines: I'd like to put it all all into a printable TXT file and see if the Kumoricon web-master(s)  might pop it up on the con site. Can a good staff person e-mail me about that, pleez?

7) Limits: Up to TWO entries per creator, only ONE entry per catagory. Each work must be submitted for ONE category. You must tell me WHAT category you want each work to compete in.

Eight) ADDITIONAL RULE I AM "CONSIDERING:"  What do you guyt think of this: Any music style is fine, but lyrics must be 'radio quality,' which means no execrable expletives. I AM -NOT- 'enforcing' this, just bringing it up for discussion.

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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2004, 08:29:00 pm »
Oh! why didn't I think of it sooner!

If the entrants in the contest do not already have accounts on animemusicvideos.org then perhaps you could start a Kumoricon profile.

Then after the convention you could just upload them to your account there and when the fans get home they can all upload them!

As for the BYOCDR I'd be willing to burn some CDs for people like that.
I got an idea, how about you burn discs for the participants? Or make a disc of the winning AMVs to give as prizes to winners of other contest, or in the volunteer grab bag! There's plenty of uses for them that wouldn't involve money but would still be cool, heck some would save money!
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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2004, 05:35:18 pm »
Quote from: "TomtheFanboy"
If the entrants in the contest do not already have accounts on animemusicvideos.org then perhaps you could start a Kumoricon profile.

Then after the convention you could just upload them to your account there and when the fans get home they can all upload them!

Do you mean download?

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« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2004, 02:15:53 am »
Ah........ Er. Yes.
*blushes profusely*

The AMV contest runner would of course upload them.
*bows in apology and wishes desperately he knew what Japanes to say*
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« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2004, 06:32:27 am »
OK - I sent in a TXT file submission form.
They should pop it up on the AMV contest
page anytime now.

It's 80 columns wide by 57 lines long, so it should print-out
just fine as is onto one sheet of paper.

You can also grab the text, drop it into a word processing
program of your choice, and go from there.

Remember, you will need to submit TWO files:
1. The AMV, in .avi or .mpg
2. A 10-second excerpt from the AMV as it is seen*

* You choose which 10-second slice you think would  best refresh the
memory of the audence - the most dramatic scene, the 'punch line' to a visual
gag, etc. It is preferred that you just take 'the best 10 seconds.' If you want
play more editing games, such as compressing 20 seconds into the 10-sec
slice (at double-speed) or make a composite of several scenes overlain onto
a 10-second work (kinda like making an AMV of an AMV,) that may be risky
because if the audience sees something MUCH different from what was
shown, they might not connect the excerpt with the correct AMV.

However,  if you -DO- make a composited excerpt, then ALL of the material
in the excerpt must be present in the actual AMV. The excerpt is -NOT- the
place to introduce new material. (Don't you HATE movie trailers which have
scenes/dialogue/music which ISN'T in the movie!?!)

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« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2004, 07:16:21 am »
as far as paying money for the disks, (legal issus and such) you could say tecknicly we're not paying for the matrial, thats a free gift, we're paying for the labor and time spent geting the disks ready and for the disk itself or somthing,
i'm all for bring your own disk but i'll need to be told, in terms a held back second grader would understand, what disks ezactly to buy, other wise i'd probly end up bring those Candy CD that contain gum
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« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2004, 02:48:44 am »
My AMV collection is making the rounds of my friends now but soon I'm going to make a file list for online friends so I can figure out what files to burn onto discs for them.

the discs you'd want to buy superjaz would be called "CD-R" or CD-RW". They will be in the computer product section of most Fred Meyer stores or at actual computer stores.

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Oh yeah! I need to ask about FFVII Advent Children buzz! Off to the other board!
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« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2004, 08:54:47 am »
if you have bittorrent(and you should :D ) you can get the trailer for advent children from animesuki.com
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« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2004, 12:37:23 pm »
Actualy, I've found that this is the best place to gets Advent children stuff.

http://www.adventchildren.net/ff7ac/media/movies.htm

It's almost official.... or something.
Anyway, they have the subbed trailer, which is good.
I'm sure that in a month they'll have more commercials with different footage since the movie will actually be OUT.

Man a fansub of that would be awesome...
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« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2004, 02:18:58 pm »
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Man a fansub of that would be awesome...

Ohhhh you know people will make those once it's in theaters in Japan.

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« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2004, 12:53:05 pm »
Stuff like that is usually available for download a day or two after it airs in Japan.

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« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2004, 01:56:27 am »
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The system I will use currently plays MPGs and AVIs well, and DivX up to 5.05. I'm not upgrading. If somebody releases a codec in mid August, and you encode with it, and your AMV doesn't play on 'Ol Sawbones' here, it won't show at the contest - because it doesn't play on the system.

Aside from DivX, what video codecs can the AVIs be in? Will plain ol' HuffYUV work?

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« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2004, 09:26:29 am »
Quote from: "DannyCat"

Aside from DivX, what video codecs can the AVIs be in? Will plain ol' HuffYUV work?


The risk with HuffYUV files is that they are HUGE and may bog down the player.
You can submit the SAME VIDEO in one or two different encodings, and I'll
select the encoding which runs the smoothest when I compile the show.

Just be sure that the 'title' portion of the filename is the same among the
different encodings:

Cool-Title-dvx-5-03.avi
Cool-Tilte-mpeg4v2.avi

Something like that would be fine. If NONE of the versions play, I will let you know, and we can try again a couple times.

Good Luck!

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« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2004, 12:17:20 am »
So, we can submit AMV's to the contest even if we can't attend?  I want to attend, but getting there and paying for the hotel is a question I'm going to have to deal with. Help me Please!!

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« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2004, 10:45:32 am »
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So, we can submit AMV's to the contest even if we can't attend?Help me Please!!


YES! You do not have to be present to participate.
Send your entries to:

Kumoricon
ATTN: AMVs
P.O. Box 3213
Eugene, OR 97403

The drop-dead date is 8-Aug-04 (Set by Kumoricon, not me.)
Include your return address so I can send you a prize if
you win something ...

As a quick review:

1. Format is AVI or MPEG. No mov's, ra's ram's wmv's swf's. Select one or two codecs which will play on Winamp 5 or Windows Media Player 8 or earlier. If you use DivX, encode at version 5.05 or earlier. If it doesn't play on the system I'll let you know and you can try another codec and get it to me even a little after the deadline. I will -NOT- accept new AMV's after August 8th for the competition. Send either a ZIP-drive or a burned CD. Do -not- expect the physical media to be returned; although I -may- have it with me during the contest. No promises. Also, it would be neat to have an AMV server going somewhere for folks to jack in & download or burn off of, but I've seen nothing concrete so I cannot make any pledges or promises about this either (but it certainly is a cool idea.)

2. AMV Categories, and their approximate show order:

a. Action & Adventure
b. Romantic / Drama
c. Period / Traditional Japanese Setting
d. SF & Futuristic Setting
e. Comedy
f. Trailers and Commercial Parodies

3. Each entry (and its encoding)  should have a second file, exactly 10 seconds long, containing audio and video ONLY from your AMV. You get to select the 10-second spot. This 'spot' will be used as a refresher during the audence voting phase.

4. Since the contest rules website did NOT post the entry sheet I made for them, here it is. Highlight (select) & copy the following text, drop it into your favorite text editor, fill in the info, and mail it in with your entry:

{Begin}

KUMORICON 2004 ANIME MUSIC VIDEO CONTEST
VIDEO ENTRY FORM
(ONE SHEET Req'd for EACH SUBMISSION)
Submit Burned CD -or- I-Omega ZIP Disk
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Creator name:
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Creator Contact Information: (Address, phone#, e-mail)





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A M V Title: "                                                        "
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Category -  Fill in the 'O'

 O   Action & Adventure
 O   Romantic / Drama
 O   Period / Traditional Japanese Setting
 O  SF & Futuristic Setting
 O  Comedy
 O  Trailer
 O  Commercial Parody

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Duration:   ____ : ____  [ min : sec ]
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File Name on Medium:

File Name of 10-SECOND
Excerpt on Medium:
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Encoding -  Circle ONE:     .avi     .mpg

Other Encoding Notes:

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Other Remarks:





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Mailing Address:

Kumoricon
ATTN: AMVs
P.O. Box 3213
Eugene, OR 97403

{End}

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« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2004, 10:43:18 am »
I have another question... what are the limits on song cusswords.... and meanings and such... @.@ For example, an Eminem song... would you have to cut out all the cusswords and such?
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« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2004, 07:37:20 am »
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I have another question... what are the limits on song cusswords.... and meanings and such... @.@ For example, an Eminem song...

I had thrown this question up for discussion a while back, and nobody ran with it.
I had wanted to get a sample of opinions, rather than be The One Guy who sets down The Law. [Thud.]

Quote from: "sassy_lassy"
would you have to cut out all the cusswords and such?

So, my first impulse had been 'If they can't play it on the radio then NO,' but then I was also thinking, 'This isn't Sesame Street either.' So, here's the deal, so far:

I will not automatically BAN any AMV, on cussword content alone.

That being said, I'd like to introduce a new term. You've heard of "Linkin-Ball-Z," so now I'd like to define "Ho-F*kkn-Hum"  to mean any of those noizy AMV's which have the audience just glazed over,  not laughing, not thinking 'Whoa, that was brilliant!" They're all just waiting for the sounds and images to STOP. Ask yourself what the video is about, and how NECESSARY are the salty terms. What's your message? Is it:

"Like sucks and everything is sh*t"
[HO-F-HUM, seen that AMV before. ]

"Alucard and Vash wield large fantasy pistols and Spike fights a lot."
[ZZZZzzzzzzzzz.]

"Lain is a troubled girl who looks sta-honed most of the time."
[Wake me when it's over.]

"FLCL is really zany and non-linear."
[Bring pen-light to read the latest NewType, listen for noise to
end, look up and see what's next. Keep flashlight & magazine handy
in case it's metal-to-mecha. or ANYTHING to 'Bring Me to Life."]

OK, now focussing on 'swear words' themselves: It may sound trite, but you can often get a stronger message across in clear words - the cusswords come out when a frustrated person lacks the vocabulary or self-understanding to explain his wrath. If your AMV is all about a couple of duelling mecha trashing Tokyo south-side, the cusswords aren't adding a necessary dimension, no matter HOW cool you are with AfterEffects. Try an instrumental if you can - they're a lot rarer, but people can plug into the video effects better. You can probably get more 'Whoa's" and "Wow's" out of the crowd if you're not swearing at them.

But an AMV which is mostly trash lyrics for no engaging reason will be LESS likely to show than the same sort of vid without the crap - OR - a vid in which the words are an integral part of the message: Imagine a vid in which the scenes are PUNS on the cusswords, with NO repeats - with a new joke for every time the refrain comes around - That's an example of how the words themselves are a NECESSARY part of the action.

By the way, I'd like to extend this idea to what some stuffy-shirts call (ahem) "inappropriate exposure." If it's gratuitous, (just because it's there, so shake it or expose it)  it's LESS likely to show. But if there's a positive, creative, or important message happening, or a funny joke or a pun - then it's possible that a flash or two won't auto-PLONK the AMV. But showing us a series of 12-yr olds in various states of violated pain to Goth-rock would be .... boring. (As in "Okay, so you can be shocking and crass. What else do you have to say?" [Delete.])

I am not exactly sure how I intend to pre-screen the AMV's (and I will keep it a secret anyways in order to keep things fair) BUT:
a) there will very likely be a panel, which will NOT include my own opinion.
b)  BUT they still might decide that an AMV is just noisy, violent garbage,
and that project would get TORPEDOED.  {glug-glug/not-shown/glug.]

A last rule of thumb: If the projector were to crash during your AMV, would the audience roar with disappointment, or would they feel RELIEVED?

Comments & opinions welcome.

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« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2004, 08:03:03 pm »
Hello, Guy L. again. After last Sunday's Kumoricon staff meeting, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS and CHANGES were suggested to me by con STAFF:

NEWS: There will be TWO and possibly THREE EVENTS. Watch for con schedule & programming announcements wherever they decide to pop up!

EVENT ONE: AMV CONTEST.
Yeah, yeah, what we have been talking about here all along. Submissions have been pretty thin so far; I MAY have to combine categories in order to get enough entries to play off each other. But I hope not. NEWS-FLASH: Con Staff strongly suggested that I run the AMV contest as "PG-13," so that-answers-THAT as far as nudity and cusswords go. I think the 'standard' is ONE instance of ONE naughty word you can't say on Sesame Street, and ONE flash of IMPLIED nudity, (help me on this) which I GUESS can mean, say certain SHOU-JO transformation scenes as an example - if the unclothed figure is a silhouette with NO internal details that's OK, shading onto non-descript zones within the silhouette is OK, but if discrete lines such as cel lines appear within the silhouette, then you're illustrating 'contraband,' and that's your ONE allowed NO-NO. Sheesh.

Duration of the visual NO-NO shall not exceed 0.20 seconds or 6 frames at 30 fps.
So, them's the rules as discussed. [Sound effect: ONE sharp rap of a gavel.]


EVENT TWO: AMV SHOW. (not a contest)

This will be a 2 - 3 hour event which will feature about an hour of AMV parody trailers, commercial spoofs (spooves?) and parody TV show openers, followed by a mix of MOSTLY comedy AMV's sprinkled with technical masterpieces (eg, 'Mystery Conundrum') or other suprising mind-blowing, or just blatantly SILLY works. Although I too, must keep this PG-13 I will do my personal, zany best to guarantee to rot your head with WRONGNESS ( ... but in a good way.)

I -alone- am selecting the AMV content of this event, so if the pre-screening panel PLONKS an AMV while I HAPPEN to like it anyway, I'll probably run it HERE. As a non-judged event, this can be cool for you creators, because you may get a chance to see an audience reaction, go back and tune up a few things, and TRY AGAIN submitting it to a new AMV contest later, based on how it was received.


EVENT THREE: LATE-NIGHT AMV's

THIS would be the slot where (ahem) 'Mature Content' AMV's would be shown, supposedly starting sometime at or past a midnight hour. (Not my gig, someone else at staff may be running this and I have -NO- idea who that would be at this time.)

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« Reply #57 on: July 27, 2004, 08:06:07 pm »
I really hope that AMV Hell 1 and 2 are featured on the late night show!
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« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2004, 06:14:06 am »
I've started another thread on suggestions & comments for the shows, so as to keep this zone clear & focussed on the AMV Contest.

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« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2004, 12:06:01 pm »
1.  I had already made an AMV with 'Bring Me to Life' before you posted the "ANYTHING to 'Bring me to Life," post.  Can I still send it in and show it?

2.  Can I burn all of my AMV's onto one CD?  Or do they have to be on separate ones?

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« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2004, 09:33:24 pm »
Are we allowed to have...oh, I don't know what they're called...those brief intervals that show your "studio" logo and the title of the AMV at the beginning?  I know that some cons allow them and some don't...

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« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2004, 06:51:48 am »
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Are we allowed to have...oh, I don't know what they're called...those brief intervals that show your "studio" logo and the title of the AMV at the beginning?  I know that some cons allow them and some don't...


Sure. I see no reason why NOT!
You can even include them in the 10-second snippet if you that's what you think people will best remember ...

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« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2004, 07:01:40 am »
Oh forget that blatant advertising stuff. Go subliminal! Just throw it in every 15-30 frames. What do you think about that? :D :P
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« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2004, 07:26:29 am »
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1.  I had already made an AMV with 'Bring Me to Life' before you posted the "ANYTHING to 'Bring me to Life," post.  Can I still send it in and show it?

Yes. There will be a pre-screening panel (NOT including ME,) who will decide if the AMV is 'suitable' or 'not suitable' for the con. I have no idea what those critera might be beyond the PG-13 thing handed to me by Con Staff and discussed previously. But my own opinion (which will not 'count' though) is that "Seen TONs of stuff like this before" isn't a "final damnation" in and of itself. But they might PLONK it anyway - I cannot predict that.

In any case, even if it DOES get plonked, I may be able to squeeze it into my own AMV showing... (whenever THAT happens to be scheduled..)

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2.  Can I burn all of my AMV's onto one CD?

Yes, that's fine. Be sure to include your 10-second snippet(s) as well.
And again, I suggest trying two different encodings (Example: one file in DivX 5.03, another in Microsoft Mpeg-4 ver 2; these are just examples though) to increase your chances that one of these files plays well on the system.

But: WARNING! It is 6-Aug-04 and the deadline is 8-AUG-04!
So, read this TODAY, burn the CD TODAY, and mail off your entry TODAY!
Otherwise you'll likely MISS the deadline!

Anyways, Good Luck to you and to ALL!

- G

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« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2004, 09:04:57 am »
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Oh forget that blatant advertising stuff. Go subliminal! Just throw it in every 15-30 frames. What do you think about that? :D :P


... must ... must buy ... Glico ... Pocky ... mmmmmm
... not knowing why ... mmmm .. must buy ... must ... eat ...

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« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2004, 10:14:04 am »
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Quote from: "Teregate"
Oh forget that blatant advertising stuff. Go subliminal! Just throw it in every 15-30 frames. What do you think about that? :D :P


... must ... must buy ... Glico ... Pocky ... mmmmmm
... not knowing why ... mmmm .. must buy ... must ... eat ...

- G


Alright! It works! Now to get women to want to date me....

But seriously, I can't wait to see the videos. (If I can make it there)
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« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2004, 11:34:43 am »
Oh... hell.

I sent in my CD without a 10-second clip of the video. ><

How will that effect it's entry or playing at the contest?

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« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2004, 03:01:28 pm »
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Oh... hell.
I sent in my CD without a 10-second clip of the video. ><
How will that effect its entry or playing at the contest?


I'll make my best judgement myself and select a 10-second slice. This will be shown during the Judging Phase. There will be an external 'frame' in AfterEffects which will have your name & title to help people vote. Kind of a neat effect.

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« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2004, 02:27:45 am »
Alright. Thanks man.


My bad.  :oops:

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« Reply #69 on: August 16, 2004, 02:11:06 pm »
Many thanks to the FIVE editors who sent in a total of EIGHT entries:
Jack & Janis Sweek, Rylan Hilman, Beeb Ashcroft and David Smith.

Now, -my- side of the work:

FOUR of the entries were submitted in a 'jittery' codec, in otherwords, there is a frame-order hiccup the way it was encoded. Luckily, Virtual Dub can straighten this out, so I am re-packing these as .AVI files in mpeg-4 v2 video, and LAME mp3 encoding at 192kb/sec audio.

A Chrno Trigger entry has a few sections of pixellated mosaic artifacts. To me this is like hitting a rock or two in thin cover while mogel-blasting in late spring - get past it and enjoy the show.

Several folks forgot the 10-second clip, so I am grabbing 10-second clips myself. One clip was LONGER than 10 seconds (duh) and had to be trimmed.

Anent** the "PG-13" spec, three vids have one questionable moment each and I will be contacting the individual editors privately before the pre-judging.

Overall, things look pretty good for the contest, and I hope the audience enjoys these works!

So far it looks like FOUR for Action/Adventure, THREE for Drama/Romance, and ONE comedy. If one of the of the seven is light-hearted enough, I'd like to run it against the Comedy entry, so that we can have a challenge in each of three categories.

I will also request a Best of Show, or Best Technical Effects prize, and the pre-screening panel may elect a Judges' Choice if they wish. (I am not included in the pre-screening panel.)

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« Reply #70 on: August 29, 2004, 01:26:19 pm »
Many thanks to ALL who submitted AMVs and
especially those folks who submitted their FIRST-TIME works.

Anyways, the pre-screening judges met and selected ELEVEN AMVs to run in THREE Categories:

Action/Adventure (4)
Romance/Drama (4) and
Comedy (3)

- GLL

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« Reply #71 on: September 06, 2004, 11:38:01 am »
Can someone please post the winners? I had to leave before it was announced. All the entries were really awesome!

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« Reply #72 on: September 06, 2004, 08:10:12 pm »
Quote from: "Sinaj"
Can someone please post the winners? I had to leave before it was announced. All the entries were really awesome!

I don't know the names so consider this an unofficial announcment.

Best Action/Adventure - The one with the cats (anime: unknown)
Best Drama/Romance - The one with Belledandy
Judge's Choice - The one with Full Metal Alchemist and the Weird Al song
Best Comedy - Trigun
Best in Show - Trigun (same as above)

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Entries & Winners
« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2004, 09:49:55 am »
Here are the Official Entry List and Winners:

Action / Adventure:

1. "Haru's Excellent Adventure"
Anime: The Cat Returns
Music: Neverending Story OST
Creator: Rylan Hilman

2. "Chrno Trigger / In the End"
Anime: Chrno trigger
Music: Lincoln Park, "in the End"
Creator: David Smith

3. "Ill-Tempered Saviour"
Anime: Gensoumaden Sayuki
Music: Stabbing Westward, "Save Yourself"
Creator: Janis Sweek

4. "Trigger Happy"
Anime: Witch Hunter Robin, Gundam Wing
Music: Poe, "Trigger Happy Jack"
Creator: Janis Sweek


Romance / Drama:

1. "Blood Love"
Anime: Vampire Hunter D: Blood Lust
Music: Queensryche, "Lady Jane"
Creator: Janis Sweek

2. "Words from a Distant Star"
Anime: Voices from a Distant Star
Music: Jade, "1000 Words"
Creator: Jack Sweek

3. "Belldandy's Dream"
Anime: Ah! Megamisama
Music: BoA, "Valenti," (Japanese version)
Creator: Rylan Hilman

4. "Bring Soujiro to Life"
Anime: Rurouni Kenshin
Music: Evanescence, "Bring Me to Life"
Creator: Derick Flory


Comedy:

1. "Weird AL(phonse)"
Anime: Full Metal Alchemist
Music: Al Yancovic, "The Weird Al Show Theme"
Creator: Derick Flory

2. "You Know He's Gonna Be ..."
Anime: Trigun
Music: Less Than Jake "I would Walk 500 Miles"
Creator: Derick Flory

3. "Holy Crap"
Anime: Memories ("Stink Bomb")
Music: Offspring "Special Delivery"
Creator: Kirk Fryrear


AWARDS:

BEST of SHOW: Derick Flory, "You Know He's Gonna Be ..."

Best ACTION / ADVENTURE: Rylan Hilman, "Haru's Excellent Adventure"
Best DRAMA / ROMANCE: Rylan Hilman, "Belldandy's Dream"
Best COMEDY: Derick Flory, "You Know He's Gonna Be ..."

Judges' Choice: Derick Flory, "Weird AL(phonse)"

See you all again NEXT YEAR!

- G

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« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2004, 06:06:46 am »
Hmm...that's the list, but over at animemusicvideos.org, entering "Kumoricon  AMV Contest" in the Participation field in Super Search returns 21 matches, only three of those being actual participants in the contest. The rest seem to be people who came to the "Participation" field in their entry and checked a whole bunch of contests at random. Any chance of them hearing from an official KumoriCon organizer to remove the KumoriCon 2004 flag from all the videos that weren't actually there?

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« Reply #75 on: September 09, 2004, 09:23:41 am »
'I Would Walk 500 Miles' is done by "The Proclaimers"  , not "Less Than Jake" just to let you know.

Derick - creator of the Full Metal Alchemist and Trigun AMV's.

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Imposter Entries?
« Reply #76 on: September 10, 2004, 05:05:49 am »
Quote from: "DannyCat"
Hmm...that's the list, but over at animemusicvideos.org, entering "Kumoricon  AMV Contest" in the Participation field in Super Search returns 21 matches, [ ... ] Any chance of them hearing from an official KumoriCon organizer to remove the KumoriCon 2004 flag from all the videos that weren't actually there?


Good idea. Does anyone remember what was shown LAST year?

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Re: artist change
« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2004, 05:14:19 am »
Quote from: "dmstudios3"
'I Would Walk 500 Miles' is done by "The Proclaimers"  , not "Less Than Jake" just to let you know.


Apologies and Thanks - and this is exactly why I had requested that people include a paper sheet for each entry, with all that info written out. I did a web search using "lyrics" + "would walk 500 more" (or something like that,) and I just went to one of the first sites that looked like it had the rest of the lyrics. Seems that some of these other sites are wrong as well.

- G

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Removing "Imposter" Entries?
« Reply #78 on: September 10, 2004, 05:25:03 am »
Quote from: "DannyCat"
Hmm...that's the list, but over at animemusicvideos.org, entering "Kumoricon  AMV Contest" in the Participation field in Super Search returns 21 matches, only three of those being actual participants in the contest. The rest seem to be people who came to the "Participation" field in their entry and checked a whole bunch of contests at random. Any chance of them hearing from an official KumoriCon organizer to remove the KumoriCon 2004 flag from all the videos that weren't actually there?


I just sent a short e-mail to "admin@animemusicvideos.org" asking them what they might want to do about this.

- G

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Re: Removing "Imposter" Entries?
« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2004, 04:47:58 pm »
Quote from: "DannyCat"
Hmm...that's the list, but over at animemusicvideos.org, entering "Kumoricon  AMV Contest" in the Participation field in Super Search returns 21 matches, only three of those being actual participants in the contest.

Quote from: "Kumoricon 2004 AMV Coordinator"
I just sent a short e-mail to "admin@animemusicvideos.org" asking them what they might want to do about this.

And here is their reply to me by e-mail:
Quote from: "AMV.org admin"
Sunday 12 September 2004 00:49:
 At the moment there is no system to verify what people enter into the database regarding contests.

 Unfortunately some people think that by selecting it as a contest that they are entering the contest... others just select all the links in order to have more search matches.

 We are, however, going to change this as we are designing a whole new approach to contest management which will allow contest organisers such as yourself to verify the data. The org will then become an accurate account of contest submissions, victories and so on. We are also hoping to have contest quality uploads for members (much like otakuvideo does for the contests they are involved with) which will allow contest organisers to use the org to manage their incoming submissions.

As for the invalid entries... I'm not certain that it is worth the administrative time manually going through each of the accounts that are making false claims and removing that data.

--  AMVorg admin

So that's the story so far.

- G