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Offline 2otaku

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« on: September 02, 2006, 01:06:30 pm »
.... as I type this, it is 12:44pm Saturday, the 2nd of September. I am a pre-registered here for Kumoricon.  I am in my room. Why you may ask.

1.  Helped set up the mascot winner, I drove her and my daughter down from near Seattle.  They didn't have a space for her to set up for selling her work.  That was part of the deal for the use of her artwork on every badge I see, t-shirts..ect.  They find us a small place, get her a badge which is a staff one, sure.  I had to run out and get some items for her, so I look to get my pre-reg badge around 10:40am.

2.  I was in the wrong line for 30 min and it was moving slow. South side of the building so it was at least shady. I ask where/if there is a pre-reg line... find out there is from the 3rd staff badged person I grab walking by me....go find that one, no signage anywhere I could tell.  Find this elusive line only to see it is many many people long... streaching outside with the mid-day sun beating down on those waiting in line.  I have an over heating condition and can not stand in direct hot sun for more than 10 to 15 min before I must find shade.  I moved from Florida to WA becase of this problem.

3.  Be aware there are events, panels, videos and the 10am opening that I am missing.... in fact the opening was pushed back to 10:45.  That didn't help me and a lot of others.  I'll be lucky to get to many of the things I wanted to do.  But I will try.

I am leaving the room now at 1:30 and pray I don't have to stand outside in the mid-day sun seeing I am not a mad dog or an Englishmen. (guess I am showing my age with that!)

Wish me luck.


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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2006, 08:09:35 pm »
I agree. This morning was not handled well. The lines were horrible, and all around orginization was lacking. Plus my check was MIA so I had to pay again! $40.00!
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2006, 09:12:48 pm »
I completely agree. The more I think about this morning the more angry I get. My morning was complete and total hell because I had to wait for 3 HOURS in a freaking line just to get my badge. It was horrible. And it took them long enough to get the bright idea to start sending water bottles out to people still waiting in line. My morning was completely shot. I got there at about 9am and I didn't have my badge until about 12:30pm. That is rediculous. I preregistered! People who pre-reged shouldn't have had to deal with that.


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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2006, 11:45:21 pm »
Yep, really didn't go as smoothly as other, more larger conventions.  :(

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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2006, 11:30:14 am »
..this being our 1st time here... we didn't know where any of the viewing rooms, panels..ect were. No layout was printed in the pocket programing guide.  If it was in the large program, I didn't notice and I wouldn't haul that around with me anyway It was pointed out some SakuraCon staff people were here to help out... so there were some people with much more Con know-how handy or I would believe so seeing Sakura has been going on longer.
 
OK... enough bitchn'.. gonna go get the mascot winner a Bento, she must be getting hungry!

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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2006, 12:22:08 am »
I agree, the people who pre-registered shouldnt have had to have missed events such as the opening ceremonies! There is a reason for pre-registeration, and that is to avoid the long registeration lines...
The one thing that pissed me off most was when someone came outside (after me being there roughly an hour and a half) and saying that they were processing the un-registered people faster than they were the pre-registered people.  I understand its hard to organize and plan ahead for certain situations at these kind of events, but that was rediculous.

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2006, 09:22:18 am »
So... after the poor start, things went better. One drunk non-con person was asking people for thier badges so he could go in the dance Sunday night.  Same people (3 adults and a 2year old running around in just a diaper) were escorted back to thier room. A call out from the ballroom about some guy getting hurt in there.

Wait... I said it went better.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2006, 10:24:53 am »
I came to the con at 9:30 fully decked out in four layers of a black (and a little white) gothic lolita outfit, complete with a wig and thick tights.  Had the line been either inside or shorter, I wouldn't have minded so much.  But standing out in the sun for three hours was ridiculous, especially since I was on the ball enough to pre-reg (Like a lot of other people!)  My sister's boyfriend hadn't pre-registered and he waited in line with us until we finally got up far enough that they said, "okay pre-registered people come over here".  

And guess where that took us?  To an even LONGER line!  In the blazing heat!  And after we were moved, we had to wait over an hour in the second line.  My sister's boyfriend came strolling over long before our wait was over to show us his registration.  Finally, my sister and I got our registrations, after thay hassled me and almost didn't give me my badge because I didn't have a ID with my age on it.  Seriously, I wasn't trying to pretend I was 18.  I am 17 and I had my school ID which says "GRADE 12" very largely on it.  Since people ages 13-17 get the same color badge anyway, and I don't look like I'm under the age of 13, I don't see why it mattered at all.  

And then we didn't get bags! Neither of us got our goody bags!  But by the time we realized, we were shooed away from the place holding them.

I was pretty angry about this and the fact that I missed the Lolita tea party (which is the whole reason I dressed like that in the first place) because I had to go straight to karaoke auditions.  Wow, what a hassle.

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2006, 07:11:53 pm »
Really, Do you think that staff wanted you all outside in the heat? The hotel hallways werent big enough to hold two lines for pre-reg and non-pre-reg lines so they had to wind it around outside.

Yeah, the lines were long. I had to stand in line too but I'm not complaining because (gasp) I eventually got in.

And the Gothic Lolita tea party went from 12 to two. You could have still made it.

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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2006, 07:31:12 pm »
Well, I was going to make a whole report. But this seems like a thread to bring up problems with the registration line.

It was very poorly organized. Not that I'm going to point fingers or blame the staff or anything, but there were things that could have been easily avoided. Having only two people working at Pre-Reg is kind of like underestimating, especially when you already know there are more than 1000 reregistered.  And when one of those two people gets up and leaves for 10 minutes, there could be better ways to go about pre-reg. I would suggest breaking the alphabet up more and taking some of those volunteers from the hall (the ones that are yelling at the line to stay back) and pass the badges out so those attendees can move entirely out of the hall.

I understand that it's by volunteer basis, but it still was kind of silly. Two of my friends were in the regular registration and my mom was with me in the pre-reg. We got in the line at the same time. Yet my friends got their badges a half-hour before my mom and I, already leaving for the gaming room or panel. If I had know that I wouldn't had pre-registered at all.

Seriously, I'm just wondering what was the staff mentality behind this fiasco? Did anyone realize you were understaffed up in the booths or try and figure out a solution?

At least I know when I can, I will volunteer for staff and try to help making these sort of things go smoother.

But other than the pre-reg line, the staff did such an awesome job and I'll mention it later on in a different thread or post.
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2006, 07:50:11 pm »
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Really, Do you think that staff wanted you all outside in the heat? The hotel hallways werent big enough to hold two lines for pre-reg and non-pre-reg lines so they had to wind it around outside.

Yeah, the lines were long. I had to stand in line too but I'm not complaining because (gasp) I eventually got in.

And the Gothic Lolita tea party went from 12 to two. You could have still made it.


No I don't think anybody wanted anybody out in the heat.  I think even though it isn't fun to get negative feedback that people the staff should not take it personally and use it as a learning experience.  I would have to agree I saw quite a few people who were not pre-reged that got through the line faster than myself even though we were close to the same part of the line.  Also from what I heard from a comment by a staff member that they had moved the pre-reg line 3 times around.  Again the pre-reg line and the regestration line should be seperate and kept that way.

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2006, 09:17:12 pm »
*raises hand in agreement and sits there silently*


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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2006, 12:06:03 am »
This just tells them that they'll need more volunteers for the pre-reg line if the amount of people in line gets to be that huge again. Lesson learned. This prompts me to want to volunteer next year so that something like this might not happen or if it does, to help lessen the damage come K-Con 2007.

On that note, thank you for bringing water outside to us. ;)

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2006, 11:16:02 am »
HORRENDOUSLY organized this year, I'm sorry.  This was BY FAR the worst Kumoricon of all time.

1.) I'm on medication where I'm not supposed to be outside in the heat too long.  I was outside in three different lines due to the screw ups in registration for THREE hours.  I Pre-registered and the point of that is to avoid the gigantic lines.  My friend also pre-registered and showed up an HOUR after I did.
    Upon staying in the non-registration line, he got in an hour before I did.

2.) The schedule book, which was a problem last year because readability was terrible, was made even smaller and more difficult to read.  I offered my graphic design skills to make it readable but nobody asked for help.

3.)  The hotel was way too small for a con that is growing as rapidly as ours is.  I realize that we couldn't get the Double Tree or the other previous Hotel we had but Jantzen Beach?  Probably the worst location of ever.  It's far away from downtown where there are LOTS of places to eat, hang out, wander around, and stay.  There were what, two hotels for con-goers to stay in on J.B?  And the worst mall in all of Portland and Vancouver combined?
       The hallways were crammed with people, viewing rooms were difficult to find, the creation station was sort of hidden away from people and it's one of the greatest things about K-con!

4.)    Got to spend another hour outside in the heat to get into the cosplay.  Some of the most magnificent costumes didn't get so much as an honorable mention.  As a cosplayer I found that really insulting.  The skit awards were super well deserved, but I really don't understand the way the costume awards were chosen considering . . .

5.)   Spent 45 more minutes in the heat to get into the dealers room which was yet ANOTHER gigantic disappointment.  You went from table to table of the SAME exact stuff.  Only difference was the price range for the same object.  I mean, pay $2 for Ramune' from table A or go to the Uwajimiya stand and buy it at regular price for only $1 a bottle.  I wonder which choice I'll make . . .
       The room was incredibly too small.  Remember the dealer's rooms we've had in the past?  WAY better, bigger, selection of merchandise, etc.
     
6.)   Several staff members were incredibly rude to con-goers.  I realize that we, who waited in lines for hours and hours were asked for patience, but the same could go for staff members.  Barking at us with not so much as a please?  Come on.  It was rough for all of us.

If Kumoricon, my favourite con and the only one I offer my services to, decides to be at the Red Lion next year there is no way I'll be there.

I don't understand how all the past organization and friendliness went out the window.

There were some exceptional staff members, though, that I noticed working really really hard and who were very friendly despite some hostile crowds.  Cid Highwind was the most noticeable, so thanks to him!  Also anyone who brought us water outside!

P.S. Also, as resident Demon Nurse of Kumoricon I was really disappointed to find out I wasn't allowed to carry my prop despite being told ahead of time that it would be all right because it wasn't sharp and I'd get it peace-bonded.  It's heavy and I carried to to the con and turns out I wasn't allowed to have it after all.  REALLY really sucky . . .
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2006, 01:02:39 pm »
I understand the frustration here, but I have a couple things to say in defense of the con...

Firstly, they were understaffed; I heard it a number of times. There were several high-ups that were actually in charge of three or four different events/rooms, so you can imagine the insanity there. That isn't the convention's fault, they needed more volunteers.

Also, I have NEVER been to a con with a short or fast prereg/reg line. Even my year at the 1700-or-so-person Sakura Con 2001, it took something like 2 hours to get through the line, prereged and all. I never go to a con and expect to power through the line in 10 minutes.

But, where I do agree with you guys is that if it's true there were only two people at the reg desk on Saturday morning, that's a little ridiculous. I picked up my badge Friday night, and it took about 40 minutes to get through--this was with five people manning the desk. It moved pretty smoothly, so I'd really like to know why they decided to only have 2 people at that desk the next morning, when the bulk of con-goers would be there. x_x;;

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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2006, 01:12:26 pm »
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I understand the frustration here, but I have a couple things to say in defense of the con...

Firstly, they were understaffed; I heard it a number of times. There were several high-ups that were actually in charge of three or four different events/rooms, so you can imagine the insanity there. That isn't the convention's fault, they needed more volunteers.

Also, I have NEVER been to a con with a short or fast prereg/reg line. Even my year at the 1700-or-so-person Sakura Con 2001, it took something like 2 hours to get through the line, prereged and all. I never go to a con and expect to power through the line in 10 minutes.

But, where I do agree with you guys is that if it's true there were only two people at the reg desk on Saturday morning, that's a little ridiculous. I picked up my badge Friday night, and it took about 40 minutes to get through--this was with five people manning the desk. It moved pretty smoothly, so I'd really like to know why they decided to only have 2 people at that desk the next morning, when the bulk of con-goers would be there. x_x;;


What I think was some peoples complaints when it came to the pre-reg saturday line was that there were at times when those who didn't pre-reg got through the line faster than those who did and they were right next to each other in the beginning.  I can use myself as an example.  I had just got in the front door maybe 20-25 people ahead of me and I get sent to the new (in the heat) line outside for Pre-reg.  Sad part was I was probably now 40th in line.  So I ended up moving backwards.  And this line took longer that the non-prereg.

Though if they were understaffed then it was probably more of a need to find those things they need people more for than other jobs.  For instance they could probably have taken a few of the people outside who's only job was to tell us to stay against the wall and have them man the pre-reg and non-prereg sign ins.

Just my two cents worth.  And to repeat again I do plan to volunteer next year.  Even outside of the line problem I had a blast and would like to be part of something like this next year.  And hopefully co-splay next time.  Just need to get the guts to do it.  :-)

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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2006, 01:18:40 pm »
Aha, I see. That's happened at Sakura Con one year that I remember--where unregistered people were moving much more quickly than the prereged.
Kudos to you for deciding to volunteer, Jason. That's what the con needs to make it better, not tons of complaints. (Well, constructive criticism does help too.)

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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2006, 01:35:32 pm »
I really really really wish you'd all have stayed for rant and rave.

SERIOUSLY.

I was working the reg table both Saturday and Sunday, and I feel your pain.

I did stand up for you all at the rant and rave and brought up the issues of registration and organization.  So, you as con goers aren't alone in recongizing these problems.  The staff knows that we're having these issues and we need to fix this.

And the biggest message I have to all of you is if you want to see things change, PLEASE GET INVOLVED.  Attend our meetings, especially the one where we'll be voting for the directors for next year.  The meetings are announced on the forums, and it's said the election for directors will be held in late October.  

If you want more organization, and more staff, there's really no better way to do that than to be involved and lend a hand.  

As for the hotel, from everything I've heard, I believe that hell will most likely freeze over before we hold a con at that hotel again.  

Seriously, if anyone has a suggestion of a good hotel, send emails to the directors, and they'll check into it.
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2006, 01:40:04 pm »
Quote from: "SephiChan"
I understand the frustration here, but I have a couple things to say in defense of the con...

Firstly, they were understaffed; I heard it a number of times. There were several high-ups that were actually in charge of three or four different events/rooms, so you can imagine the insanity there. That isn't the convention's fault, they needed more volunteers.

Also, I have NEVER been to a con with a short or fast prereg/reg line. Even my year at the 1700-or-so-person Sakura Con 2001, it took something like 2 hours to get through the line, prereged and all. I never go to a con and expect to power through the line in 10 minutes.

But, where I do agree with you guys is that if it's true there were only two people at the reg desk on Saturday morning, that's a little ridiculous. I picked up my badge Friday night, and it took about 40 minutes to get through--this was with five people manning the desk. It moved pretty smoothly, so I'd really like to know why they decided to only have 2 people at that desk the next morning, when the bulk of con-goers would be there. x_x;;


No other Kumoricon has ever had people standing in line for that long.  It's my fave con ever, which is partly why I'm so upset with what happened this year.  The pre-reg line usually moves really quickly!!!
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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2006, 04:11:51 pm »
It took me over hour and a half just to reach the hotel, so I was not happy that it was not in Downtown Portland... I even missed out on 18+ events because I could not stay long enough, or else I would have missed the bus. But with the number of attendees expanding rapidly, and the factor that the con was understaffed, it is understandable...
But this being the only con I attend, I wish it would have turned out better. I may be moving soon, so I might not give support as a staff, but I will definetely look into volunteering.
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2006, 04:37:27 pm »
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but I will definetely look into volunteering.


Seriously, even just having more volunteers would make a huge difference.  ^_^

Hopefully, we have a better located hotel for next year, but I'm 99.9% certain that we'll not be going back to this hotel ever again.
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2006, 06:06:52 pm »
Is the Double Tree that we used in 2005 already booked as well? That was a pretty convenient spot, being so close to the Lloyd Center and a MAX station.

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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2006, 06:08:19 pm »
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Is the Double Tree that we used in 2005 already booked as well? That was a pretty convenient spot, being so close to the Lloyd Center and a MAX station.


It is.  We talked about it at rant and rave.  2007, shriners have the Double Tree.
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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2006, 06:12:35 pm »
hm... i had no problem with the location. the main problem i had with this year's kcon was how some things didn't happen. when i got to the hotel, i was in line at about 9am. when i finally got to the front desk, it was about 12... then they finally told me there was a pre-reg line next to the desk... maybe it's just me, but i think i would've had more to do if the people shouting 'AGAINST THE WALL!' and 'PRE-REG M-Z COME WITH ME!' said something about pre-reg'ed people going to the front.  another thing i HAVE to say is that i was quite disappointed when i heard DDR Style, Halo 2 Team, and GGXX#reload tournaments were cancelled. i can understand GG, (just because Slash a dif. ver. ... although i did train hard on #reload) but style and teams cancelled? i heard those two happened last year. what's wrong with this year?  also, did any of the gaming tournament winners get anything?  (....btw, what happened to Kirk Thornton?)

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« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2006, 08:40:42 pm »
Okay, similarly to what everyone else said, standing in line for three hours was VERY disappointing. I was in my Tsuzuki costume which consisted of a white shirt, black blazer, black pants/socks/tie, and black trenchcoat so it wasn't very comfortable in the heat (so I took the trenchcoat off, eheh).

Also, due to the lines, I missed my photoshoot which was supposed to be at noon...that was dispappointing, but I was lucky enough for a Yami no Matsuei group to come by the lines and be willing to have a picture taken with me, and for me to notify them that I was stuck in the lines...

Oh, and my first-con-goer brother missed his Soul Calibur 3 tournament. ._.

I'm all up for the "dividing the line into smaller, alphabetical lines (like at SakuraCon)" so it'll go much more smoothly next year. Oh, and changing the hotel, because the panel that I was hoping to go to was packed inside a small room like a can of sardines.

Also, on the Bakazoku...at the cosplay competition, it was hilarious at first, but then it started to drag. Maybe my humor is just different from others, but I think a sexual joke here and there is funny, but if they're one after another for practically an hour it just isn't so funny anymore. And when I went to their daytime show, I thought it would be like Whose Line Is It Anyway? or something similar...not a talk show. Did they do anything besides talking after I left? (Just wondering if I missed out...)

On the positive, thanks for the water while waiting in-line! And the karaoke contest was AWESOME, especially since we were filmed...x3 But I'd REALLY like to know what the judges write down on how to decide if you pass the auditions or not. It would be great if each person could get a paper of what the judges thought on why or why not we should or should not make it to the finals.

Oh, and the Anime Dating Game was HILARIOUS. Much love for that, and I hope to see it again next year (along with other anime-themed game shows, haha)!

And the Cosplay Competition! The skits and walk-ons were love.
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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2006, 09:01:36 pm »
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(....btw, what happened to Kirk Thornton?)


He's back home with his wife and family.  At the con he was in panels, he just didn't end up with anything individual to him, he sat in on a voice acting panel and the dubbing workshop panel.

He really enjoyed our convention, as this was really the first time that he's been able to attend and enjoy a convention as a guest.
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« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2006, 09:27:59 pm »
As said above, i would advise all of you to go to rant and rave so you can voice your thoughts....it would be so much better
also if you see a need, volunteer
if you volunteer just to fix the one problem you see it would helps things run so much smoother, then everyone can have more fun and the whole thing just runs smoother


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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2006, 10:44:13 pm »
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hm... i had no problem with the location. the main problem i had with this year's kcon was how some things didn't happen. when i got to the hotel, i was in line at about 9am. when i finally got to the front desk, it was about 12... then they finally told me there was a pre-reg line next to the desk... maybe it's just me, but i think i would've had more to do if the people shouting 'AGAINST THE WALL!' and 'PRE-REG M-Z COME WITH ME!' said something about pre-reg'ed people going to the front.  another thing i HAVE to say is that i was quite disappointed when i heard DDR Style, Halo 2 Team, and GGXX#reload tournaments were cancelled. i can understand GG, (just because Slash a dif. ver. ... although i did train hard on #reload) but style and teams cancelled? i heard those two happened last year. what's wrong with this year?  also, did any of the gaming tournament winners get anything?  (....btw, what happened to Kirk Thornton?)


I am SO on your side with the DDR style tournament. They said they cancelled due to lack of participants, but there were 8 or 9 people signed up, which should have been plenty. My little brother who had signed up for it was terribly disappointed, as they cancelled it at Sakura Con too, and he's always wanted to play in one. 8 or 9 people should have been enough; and even if that's too few, the style tournament is all about having fun and playing around anyway, so why not just let it go?
=/ I was really disappointed about that; I was looking forward to watching it.

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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2006, 09:21:03 pm »
I just need to add my 2 cents here.

for those who felt the registration  linewas a big issue, we are sorry. We have said it many times on the forums.

but that aside I have to adress this one small issue.

IF you have a medical issue that made it so u could not be out in the sun for more then a few minutes, then please.....TELL US! we can make exceptions.  We moved mothers with small infants, injured people, extremely small children, and such to the front in these cases because they cannot take the wait like others.

If you do not tell us, then you cannot hold it against us.
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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2006, 10:08:15 pm »
I would like to add my own two cents,

I was trying my best to make your stay in the lines as easy and funny as possible, for those that remember me I was smiling the whole time, trying to crack jokes and be friendly dispite my antisocail nature.

 For those of you the feel I barked at you I am sorry, I tried my best.

And for those of you that "Made Friends" with the wall, ty for the laugh, I needed it 8)
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« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2006, 10:36:13 pm »
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HORRENDOUSLY organized this year, I'm sorry.  This was BY FAR the worst Kumoricon of all time.


Do you mean that? Really? You had a hand in creating this con, Legato. The pre-reg sucked, but I know for a fact that your contributions were awesome. So were those of our guests, panelists, event coordinators, etc. It seems really unfair to say Kumoricon sucked, when it was really just the wait to get inside.

And you are so on about the hotel....how much am I allowed to say? :P
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« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2006, 10:39:37 pm »
*ahem*
This is the first year Pezcat has not directed the registration stations.  :roll:

We all know the hotel was a bad location. We are trying very hard to find another one. This year it was sort of our fallback location.

I liked the island though, it had a late night restaurant within walking distance. Nothing like Lloyd Center but good for post-curfew people without cars.

As far as panels. The funny thing about panels not happening or being cramped was that there were rooms available (like, 5 hours worth of availability if you look at the Random panel) if you looked hard enough. I took charge of my Pocky club panel and made a deal to have it moved to a bigger room and even helped the AV guys get their stuff set up so they wouldn't have to worry about us.

Now, about Bakazoku, they play to their crowd and they've ALWAYS had to stretch material for the cosplay judging. Its inevitable that they'll be dancing and making yaoi jokes before their job is done.

The best way to get your badge is to be there Friday night. Not always possible but it's true. The line went outside then as well but, of course, the sun was down. Even then, there were about 60 people who got cut off and sent packing without a badge (like me, heh heh).
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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2006, 10:58:40 pm »
I say,
the hotel was kinda spread out and the hotel staff wasn't much help. They wheren't even much help with Spidey and his bunch. They just fined him, they did nothing about the babe running around nor the fems that tried to force their way into the dance. *end of her minor rant, sorry it was a pet peeve*

But, on the most part it was a nice place.
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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2006, 11:47:05 pm »
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Is the Double Tree that we used in 2005 already booked as well? That was a pretty convenient spot, being so close to the Lloyd Center and a MAX station.


It is.  We talked about it at rant and rave.  2007, shriners have the Double Tree.


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« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2006, 12:15:47 am »
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Now, about Bakazoku, they play to their crowd and they've ALWAYS had to stretch material for the cosplay judging. Its inevitable that they'll be dancing and making yaoi jokes before their job is done.
We do cater to the crowd, and the crowd always wants yaoi jokes and antics  :? ...so we do our best to oblige.  If you noticed, we had a single yaoi joke in our skit.  Our filler, however, began to become more and more yaoi jokes/antics, as the crowd reacted better to them than any other kinds.
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« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2006, 12:18:50 am »
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We do cater to the crowd, and the crowd always wants yaoi jokes and antics  :? ...so we do our best to oblige.  If you noticed, we had a single yaoi joke in our skit.  Our filler, however, began to become more and more yaoi jokes/antics, as the crowd reacted better to them than any other kinds.


I say you bring up some more girls on stage. When that many guys are up there of course it's going to lead to yaoi.

You should have more audience interaction, as in, bring people on stage or go into the audience and do an improv game or something. That way, people are more attentive since they are interacting or have the chance of interacting. ...Yeah, that's just my idea.
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« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2006, 12:28:43 am »
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We do cater to the crowd, and the crowd always wants yaoi jokes and antics  :? ...so we do our best to oblige.  If you noticed, we had a single yaoi joke in our skit.  Our filler, however, began to become more and more yaoi jokes/antics, as the crowd reacted better to them than any other kinds.
I say you bring up some more girls on stage. When that many guys are up there of course it's going to lead to yaoi.

You should have more audience interaction, as in, bring people on stage or go into the audience and do an improv game or something. That way, people are more attentive since they are interacting or have the chance of interacting. ...Yeah, that's just my idea.
Well, we have Lizzie...and "The Otaco" (who has horrendous stage fright lol), but most other girls with potential we know are already involved in other groups.  Maybe we should have some auditions for female extras onstage. XD

I've already talked to Joe about coming up with games for our panels (I have one idea already that has potential), but a game for filler during events is a good idea also....as long as we stay away from ripping off the Whose Line format like some other groups do. XP
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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2006, 12:36:41 am »
Could it have been done better? Yes. And I sure hope it will be better next year! I felt bad for my friend because he came up to visit his first con and had to end up leaving because he works nights and well, 3 hours spent in line was a bit too much considering he had to be awake at 6PM.

That said.. I actually had a good time standing in line. Granted, I ended up having to run to the bathroom twice but I got to meet some really cool people and have a lot of fun talking to them. And to me, that's kinda the point of even coming to the con in the first place! Actually, come to think of it.. at about hour 2 my back started to act up (lower back problems), but it was more of an annoyance (stiffness) than anything serious. </gripe>

Although I'll admit I'm sad I missed opening ceremony. (Er, I guess I lied.) </gripe>

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« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2006, 01:46:37 am »
Haha, I'd totally be a female extra. XD

Our panel room was too small, and none of the equipment that we requested on our form was provided to us. Overall I really enjoyed the con, though. So great job to all the staff really, I know how hard it can be to organize things as I have founded my own anime con here in Alaska.

And for the people saying the crowd wanted yaoi jokes, I find it so funny that people have been flaming my cosplay group for making too many yaoi jokes when in reality most of the crowd seemed to love it.
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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2006, 02:25:59 am »
For some reason, man love is funny. Not quite sure why, but I'm sure it's the same reason as cheese, kidneys and Tuesdays.

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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2006, 08:34:56 am »
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We do cater to the crowd, and the crowd always wants yaoi jokes and antics  :? ...so we do our best to oblige.  If you noticed, we had a single yaoi joke in our skit.  Our filler, however, began to become more and more yaoi jokes/antics, as the crowd reacted better to them than any other kinds.
I say you bring up some more girls on stage. When that many guys are up there of course it's going to lead to yaoi.

You should have more audience interaction, as in, bring people on stage or go into the audience and do an improv game or something. That way, people are more attentive since they are interacting or have the chance of interacting. ...Yeah, that's just my idea.
Well, we have Lizzie...and "The Otaco" (who has horrendous stage fright lol), but most other girls with potential we know are already involved in other groups.  Maybe we should have some auditions for female extras onstage. XD

I've already talked to Joe about coming up with games for our panels (I have one idea already that has potential), but a game for filler during events is a good idea also....as long as we stay away from ripping off the Whose Line format like some other groups do. XP


Are you insinuating that a certain troupe is just a poor imitation?! Blasphemy I say!

You're lucky I was stuck in the middle of a row of seats during your filler dance. I was ready to head up to the stage with a fiver clenched in my teeth for you.

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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2006, 11:38:13 am »
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Well, we have Lizzie...and "The Otaco" (who has horrendous stage fright lol), but most other girls with potential we know are already involved in other groups.  Maybe we should have some auditions for female extras onstage. XD

I've already talked to Joe about coming up with games for our panels (I have one idea already that has potential), but a game for filler during events is a good idea also....as long as we stay away from ripping off the Whose Line format like some other groups do. XP


You should make that one of your games. Bringing girls up on stage and.. erm.. talking with them. Aw, ripping off Whose Line (if done will...) can be somewhat funny. But only some games. You could always go an audience scavenger hunt. Have someone list off characters and a couple of members have to run through the audience and try to find those cosplayers. As you find people, you bring them up on stage. (Such as, "Find an Edward Elric" Looking Person: "Aha! I found one! *brings cosplayer Ed up to stage then goes back for next thing on the list*")

*shrugs and does a dance*
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« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2006, 03:25:02 pm »
thhhings like this happen they just do, pzart of havin g such a big turn out but dosnnt change the fackt it was funness
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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2006, 04:24:08 pm »
After discussion at con, I've come to the conclusion that Yaoi is the new fart joke for anime.  It's a really just a cheap laugh, so it's easy to see why people go for it.  The group that I really liked this year at Cosplay was Ninja of the Night, great skit, hilarious, no yaoi jokes.
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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2006, 10:56:46 pm »
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You're lucky I was stuck in the middle of a row of seats during your filler dance. I was ready to head up to the stage with a fiver clenched in my teeth for you.
You would have just contributed to the yaoi antics, which a few people are complaining about. lol
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« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2006, 12:30:14 am »
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I agree. This morning was not handled well. The lines were horrible, and all around orginization was lacking. Plus my check was MIA so I had to pay again! $40.00!


I remember you!  We had a lengthy discussion about trying to get this rectified - have you been able to cancel the check to the convention like we discussed so that you only had to pay us once?  I remember that when we talked about that and I asked if that solution would be okay, you said yes, so I'm hoping it all got worked out.  I assure you, the convention did NOT want you to pay for admission twice.  I ask, because I've seen you post twice about it, so it's obviously a big deal.

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« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2006, 08:08:05 am »
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Tuesday is coming....did you bring your coat?

I'm glad to see some positive going on here. I think the greatest thing in this whole mess is how fantastic reg will be next year. We are already working on ways to make ourselves better. From the ideas I've heard, and with the crack team of individuals who will be working on this next year, I think we are going to set the standard for how reg gets done.

Thank you everyone for the compliments and constructive critism. :)

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« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2006, 08:23:54 am »
Does staff have an idea of where Kcon 07 will be held? I mean, apart from the size, I liked the Red Lion [they had good creamy potato soup at shenanigins. xD]

Grr. At the Doubble Tree. I realy liked that location.

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« Reply #48 on: September 08, 2006, 10:38:12 am »
I have a great idea of where KCon 07 will be held.  I'll let the rest of you in on the secret as soon as I can :)
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« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2006, 01:17:21 pm »
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HORRENDOUSLY organized this year, I'm sorry.  This was BY FAR the worst Kumoricon of all time.


Do you mean that? Really? You had a hand in creating this con, Legato. The pre-reg sucked, but I know for a fact that your contributions were awesome. So were those of our guests, panelists, event coordinators, etc. It seems really unfair to say Kumoricon sucked, when it was really just the wait to get inside.

And you are so on about the hotel....how much am I allowed to say? :P


I think you're allowed to say how much you wanna, really!  :D

I love Kumoricon and that's probably why I was sooo disappointed this year.  So much just wasn't right.  I really missed having abig dealer's room and a place on the Max line so we could go places.

It wasn't just the wait outside that was disappointing about this con. If it had been I wouldn't have said that it sucked.  I wish I'd been contacted by e-mail before the con so I'd had some clue as to what to do @ the con, but everything was terribly confusing!  T_T

I'm gonna work super hard next year to make our con kick ass!
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