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Offline BlackjackGabbiani

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Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« on: October 14, 2019, 04:45:18 pm »
Where else are people having the big Kumoricon discussions? Is there a Discord or something for it that I'm not seeing?

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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2019, 04:25:14 pm »
That's a good question. I'll be interested if you find out anything.

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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2019, 12:06:08 am »
Sadly, most of the action tends to take place on Facebook.  I'd love to see more conversing done here, like in "the old days."
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2019, 02:12:36 pm »
Sadly, most of the action tends to take place on Facebook.  I'd love to see more conversing done here, like in "the old days."


I miss the old days. I hate trying to follow things on Facebook. Feels like a giant page of spam.


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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2019, 01:00:48 pm »
Sadly, most of the action tends to take place on Facebook.  I'd love to see more conversing done here, like in "the old days."


I miss the old days. I hate trying to follow things on Facebook. Feels like a giant page of spam.



I know, right?  It's also more annoying/challenging to find specific talking points on Facebook than here.  At least things are organized on the forums.
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2019, 06:55:38 am »
Amen to all of the above. (Well except the good old days, I'm newish to Portland so I can't vouch for that : P )

The best way to revive the forums would be to just start using them again I think? I see 132 guests online atm, assuming they're not all bots for some reason I'm guessing they would make accounts and be posting if they saw activity they were interested in. It would be just a handful of people to start and who knows how long it could take to gather momentum, but that's how trends start after all.
I at least plan to post whatever pictures I take at con on this forum, I'd love to see any one else do the same.
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2019, 12:38:51 pm »
^ I like this idea.  We can also try to spread the word at the con itself; I'm not even sure how many of the current attendees even know we have a forum.
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2019, 03:19:03 pm »
Yaas! My delivery will probably be awkward but I'll tell people as I'm taking pics that I'll be posting them here. XD I'm not sure how else to tastefully bring it up, maybe I'll whip up a little badge and wear it on my backpack or something. Something like, "Revive The Forum" over the Kumoricon logo.
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2019, 09:11:41 pm »
Well, I'll be running the Otaku 25+ panel on Sunday, so I can include the forums in my "meeting agenda."
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2019, 03:52:15 am »
I relate to how you all feel. I miss this place being active as much as you do.
Several years ago, I posted a topic here asking if the message board was still important, because for most of the year, people weren't posting that often.
When I did, a lot of people responded saying it was, claiming it was the best way to organize gatherings, and they were right. At that time, the board was very active when the con was getting close and right after it ended, since people were posting pictures.
Back then, you think the forums would've continued to remain active that way, and it's sad that they haven't. I still prefer forums over social media sites, because it's so much easier to arrange events. That was why I was able to organize three Team Haberkorn dinners in the past, and when I tried to arrange one two years ago on Facebook, no one responded, because it's impossible to keep topics there organized.
Maybe it's just me, but I think a lot of the inactivity has to do with the con's website not having an immediately visible link to it. While you can still find a a link there when you put the arrow on where it says "Get involved," I think people are more likely to visit if they see the word Forums on main menu.
I still prefer message boards over social media, because topics are more organized and so many Facebook pages tend to be very hostile.
I agree with making efforts to make this place more active and like the ideas that PicklePet and Washougal_Otaku have and there are a lot of members here that I miss talking to.
One thing I think would be good to suggest to the staff would be to have the forums listed on the main menu instead of a sub-link. It was approximately at that time when it became less active and I think a more noticeable link would really help.
I want to see this place become more active again, and it would be depressing if it got closed. Hopefully, we can make it happen.
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2019, 08:31:15 pm »
Waah shy but if you see this you know it's me. ; P Feel free to say 'Hi Pickle,' and don't mind my social awkwardness. I'm kinda quiet in person but a chatterbox in writing.


I'm glad you have a bigger net of influence than me, Washougal. ^u^

@Paladin: Hooray, another believer! There is a link to it in the last sentence of homepage, but a bigger hook certainly would help.It's true, also I feel like the ability to 'like' posts removes incentive to come up with thoughtful responses, you can only look through one giant chronological feed of every post made - meaning your post will only be seen by the people who happen to be looking at the group at the moment and the people that check every single notification in their feed. Facebook is convenient for being tapped into Kumoricon's announcements if you're already on there, but in terms of talking to people...

I just feel like this would be one of the best tools for keeping the community connected in between cons - and isn't that connection one of the biggest appeals of the event in the first place? If you like going to the con to meet cool people interested in the same stuff, or just to bask in that atmosphere - you should totally be on here!Don't be afraid of posting and not getting a reply, don't get discouraged from checking back every now and then, don't be afraid of replying to some one weeks or months after their post - worthwhile things take persistence. If you find the courage to take the first step, others will follow! (Tap into your inner protagonist! lol)
That's my pitch.
Have a great con y'all, I'll see you on the other end.
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2019, 05:51:53 am »
PicklePet: I completely agree with what you're saying. I'll definitely work on posting here more often and hopefully, we can work on making this place more active.
And I relate to what you said about Facebook. There's nothing wrong with getting likes, and I often like to receive them, but as friendly as they can be, it means so much to get an actual reply, and at Facebook, I wish they'd come more frequently.


Also, I love the Lloyd and Genis chibis you have. Those are awesome. It's always nice to encounter a fellow Tales fan.

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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2019, 10:28:33 am »
Photo dump posted in the cosplay forum! (also with links to people's photo posts on FB as I see them)

Also, I've had a couple more thoughts about this whole forum situation - I can't decide how much of a factor it might be that this forum host site seems a bit outdated - but regardless of that, A. people like things that are new, B. things that are new have an excuse to be officially announced. So - I've recently started studying web and app design. I'm officially making it my goal to build my idea of an app for the con (whether they can actually use it or not) - goal number two can be making a website that links up with it, and what would be on that site? An updated forum. I'm gonna make a new thread with my app ideas.

PaladinCecil: Dahaha thank you, I know they're super cute. > < If only I hadn't been an impoverished little teenager when I found them, I'd have the whole party. ToS is still my favorite, though that may also be because the only other ones I owned myself were Legendia and Graces, I only played some of the others when visiting friends - do you have a favorite?
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2019, 01:05:42 am »
That's a good question. There are so many that I liked. I think my faves are Eternia, Symphonia and Abyss. I liked Phantasia and Legendia a lot as well and my first two RPG cosplays were Lloyd and Zelos.

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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2019, 07:00:22 am »
Ooh, you're a real OG fan! Nice! XD I always wanted Abyss because the free run. And I've been wanting to cosplay Lloyd for forever~ Do you have pictures somewhere? : DAlso I JUST realized your username is a reference to Final Fantasy IV, isn't it? That one was a little too early for me but Final Fantasy VI is my childhood, did you like that one? > u < It's my ultimate dream to cosplay somebody in a suit of magitek armor.
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2019, 10:24:23 pm »
I do. You can view them in this link, along with some other Tales cosplays (I've never been good at posting screenshots on message boards. Sharing links has always been easier). The characters I'm dressed as are Zelos, Lloyd and Judas from Tales of Destiny 2. You'll see me at 1:50, 2:05, 2:55 to 3:50,3:59 to 4:10, 4:25 to 4:55, and 5:00 to 5:15. Ironically, I never played Tales of Destiny 2, but at the time, so many people were cosplaying from then current Tales games, so I wanted to do something different. Surprisingly, a decent number of people recognized the character.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74_JoG9KuGc


My user name is a reference to the Final Fantasy IV character. He's been one of my favorite RPG protagonists for a long time and is someone I would've cosplayed by now if his outfit wasn't so complicated. I strongly suggest playing that game when you get a chance. Even today, it still holds up as one of the best of the series (I started playing it back in '92 when I was thirteen and to this day is one of my fondest RPG memories), but I recommend playing the Super Nintendo version first, then the DS remake. Both versions are great, but the latter will be a much better experience when playing it after the former.


If you could cosplay in magitek armor, that would be awesome. I've never seen someone do that before.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2019, 07:36:45 pm »
Sorry for the late reply - I had a small panic attack when I realized exactly how close it is to the holidays and been busy with preparations.
Aw, I love the pic with the gal hugging your Lloyd - I find it so fun when some one loves your character so much they wanna hug you upon seeing you. You definitely get points for uniqueness with Judas!
Oh I trust you, I'm generally a little mistrusting of remakes any ways, though I'm not sure if I'll be able to find the original... I don't really have a working SNES any more, haha.

Honestly I don't think I'll get it done until I'm like, 40 (unless my life drastically changes) but I'm determined. I want it to be on stilts too - I don't think I'll be able to make one truly to scale but I'll get as close as I can.
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2019, 03:32:20 pm »
Maybe it's just me, but I think a lot of the inactivity has to do with the con's website not having an immediately visible link to it. While you can still find a a link there when you put the arrow on where it says "Get involved," I think people are more likely to visit if they see the word Forums on main menu.
I still prefer message boards over social media, because topics are more organized and so many Facebook pages tend to be very hostile.



One thing I think would be good to suggest to the staff would be to have the forums listed on the main menu instead of a sub-link. It was approximately at that time when it became less active and I think a more noticeable link would really help.



That's a pretty good idea.  Perhaps someone should shoot an email to the correct department (which appears to be Publicity).
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2019, 06:53:29 pm »
Washougal_Otaku: That's a good idea.


PicklePet: Sorry for taking so long to respond. I had a lot going on last week.
Regarding the Lloyd cosplay. I know what you mean. It is nice when someone wants to hug you because they love the character so much. What's cool about that moment was it was the same place where I got a hug two years before when I cosplayed as Duo from Gundam Wing. I miss getting a lot of reactions when cosplaying. It doesn't happen remotely as much as before and I had some good luck when I did the Tales characters, with the most notable being Zelos. A lot of people were impressed and on one occasion, a girl gave me a stick of Pocky, since you get free items from females when he's in the front of the party.


Regarding Final Fantasy 4. I recommend going to a store that sells used games and getting a Super Nintendo, so you can play it. And I know what you mean about wanting a remake to be good. The DS one totally delivers, but is a better experience if you play the Super Nintendo version first. There's a lot to like about the original and playing through it will make the remake even more satisfying. Despite how long playing through the original would take, it's well worth the time.

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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2019, 10:03:31 am »
No worries!You cosplayed as Duo too, niiiice~ That reaction to your Zelos is awesome, props to that gal for making that reference. ^_^ You've reminded me how any time I was low on gels I would just exit and re-enter the town with Zelos as the party leader a couple times and do a round talking to all the ladies, hahaha.The cosplay scene has definitely changed - as more people get into it there's a growing expectation for things to look professional, thanks to professional cosplayers, companies that mass produce cosplays and commissions. Not to mention there are just more people cosplaying in general at events so it's harder to stick out. Not to say this is all bad, it creates a larger pool of cool cosplays to be seen. But I do feel like there's been a general shift from appreciating the thought that goes into a cosplay to appreciating how polished it looks, and that makes me sad.

Now that you say just buy an SNES - I was convinced it'd be super expensive (since I was able to sell my used Harvest Moon SNES cartridge for like, ~150 I think) but the system and the cartridge are being sold for less than that so hot dang, I guess I will buy one. XD
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Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2019, 01:08:01 am »
Zelos was a lot of fun to do. I even wrote down some of his quotes to memorize and a number of girls were impressed when they heard them.
You do have a point about the cosplay scene. Although cons have always had a large percentage of cosplayers, there is definitely a higher number, just because of the growing attendance. And I know what you mean about appreciation. From '11 to '14, I chose to dress as Locke, Edgar and Sabin, and despite good resemblances, few people recognized me. During that time, I also cosplayed Soul from the scene where he got caught cheating on the test and was certain that I a lot of people would react, just because the scene was so memorable, and I had never seen anyone do him that way before.
And that was the easiest one I had ever done, because all I needed was a white wig, a stitch mark drawn on my chest and blue swim shorts with bone cut-outs stuck on.
And at Kumoricon '12, I saw a girl in a Locke cosplay that was better and fancier than the one I wore the previous year and even it had few reactions.
But although I didn't get frequent comments and picture requests for the FF6 characters I did, I still had fun with the costumes, since I was able to find ways to get in-character. (i.e. As Sabin, I acted out cosplay character battles with blitz moves.)


Regarding a Super Nintendo, that's great to know. Harvest Moon is one of a small number of SNES games that sells for a lot, with another being Earthbound (a game I regret not getting the year it was released), which is to RPGs what Honus Wagner is to baseball cards, although less expensive.
If you can't find a SNES copy of FF4 at a used game store, be sure to order one on-line.


PS: If you own a Nintendo Switch, get Go Vacation if you don't have it. I play that game a lot with Miis I made of different video game and anime characters and would like to find more people to play it with. It would be awesome to do different mini-games multi-player with other people as names from Zelda, Final Fantasy, Tales, Soul Eater or Ouran.

PPS: Given that we're getting pretty off-topic (lol), it might be better that we continue this discussion in private messaging. If you'd like to PM me, feel free to.

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