Most annoying thing at an anime convention

[PaladinCecil79]

What would you consider the biggest nuisance at an anime convention?
No offense to anyone who's responsible for any of these things.
Regarding the second choice: Over the past four years, I've been attending voice actor panels on a regular basis and at more than half of them, someone asked how to get into voice acting and the panelist/panelists had to spend 20 minutes of the panel giving all of these details on how to do it. I've never found anything wrong with people wanting to voice act and I like how VAs have inspired many people to get interested, but when you hear someone ask it at almost every panel and have to keep hearing the same kind of answer again and again, at least a third of the audience is going to have heard that question a million times and the majority of people who attend these panels want to hear as many questions get asked as they can. And it allows fewer people to ask their own questions because of the amount of time it takes for the panelist to explain all the details.
I've met one voice actor (Michael McConnohie) who makes fliers he puts on each chair of the panel room giving his own insight on getting into it and I'm starting to recommend the same thing to other VAs that I've met.

Regarding the third choice: I will admit that I think it's repetitive seeing so many people cosplaying as characters from Fullmetal Alchemist, Bleach, Naruto, Final Fantasy 7 and Ouran, but as common as it is, I have no complaints with people doing it because in my opinion, it's best for cosplayers to do characters they like and are most comfortable dressing as because that way, they're being themselves more than they would if they dressed as someone from a lesser known anime. Although if you're gonna cosplay, that should be your purpose, not because the character is popular (no offense to those who do that). However, it is nice whenever people dress as different characters.

[Washougal_Otaku]

In general, the game.  It's annoying, especially since I hear it so much OUTSIDE of con.

This year, the chair.  by far, nothing was more annoying than the chair craze.  It was funny during the Cosplay Skit contest, but got old very quickly after that.

[flyinvee11]

Gosh, this is tricky, those are ALL valid choices...

[EveofAbyss]

I voted for the third. I get tired of seeing the same characters, but not necessarily the same anime. There are worlds' worth of characters to be cosplayed, I just think it is a waste to see so many people doing the exact same character. Like, personally, I try my best to cosplay underrepresented characters. Not just for that reason, but it actually makes me feel better about my cosplays, because I know I won't be lumped in with anyone else. I'll stand out and be my own standard. It does just get boring, though, seeing 10 or 15 of the same character, even if they're done well. I lose interest and respect after a couple, which I'll admit is unfair to the cosplayers who choose those characters, but if you are willingly cosplaying a character that will be done by multiple others, you should know that your chances of standing out or even being remembered are slim to none.

[TomtheFanboy]

I am abstaining from this vote because this will quickly turn into Trolling 101 for Kumoricon 2012.

[reppy]

THE CHAIR LOST THE GAME!!!!!!

am i doin' it rite? D:


Seriously, the most "annoying" thing at an anime convention?  The people that forget the word "play" in cosplay.  It ain't cosserious or coslifeordeath.  It's cosplay.  Have fun, enjoy the costumes other people do, and don't offer unsolicited advice or insult the costumes other people are wearing.

I am fond of a quotation from Dan Rather.  He says, "Take your work seriously, but not yourself."  Sage advice, indeed!

[Chromophobic]

^Thank you for saying that! It seemed I got insulted a lot this year since I was cosplaying from a well-known video game and not being "unique". And of course, I also got insulted since I wasn't the best looking person cosplaying. That was one thing I felt was so annoying was people taking cosplaying to seriously. Not only did that made me look like an idiot, it made me feel worse during the convention. Luckily, I had my boyfriend and friends to cheer me up. ^_^

[Blizzara Dragon]

^Thank you for saying that! It seemed I got insulted a lot this year since I was cosplaying from a well-known video game and not being "unique". And of course, I also got insulted since I wasn't the best looking person cosplaying. That was one thing I felt was so annoying was people taking cosplaying to seriously. Not only did that made me look like an idiot, it made me feel worse during the convention. Luckily, I had my boyfriend and friends to cheer me up. ^_^

I know right? It seems like people are starting to get stuck-up when it comes to cosplay again, which is really a sad thing to see. It's one thing to criticize your own cosplay because of things you don't like, but it is never cool to do that to someone else.

[bunny_jean]

The most annoying thing for me is when I'm trying to get somewhere and people are either a) clogging the halls, or b) are walking right in front of you and then just stop for no reason. Every time it happens I just want to yell at someone.

[kylite]

"the game" is sooo annoying!

Any time I heard it I responded as loudly as possible "you have won the game, you are free!"

[nikkiolie]

The game, the chair, and the cosplays. I walked through the park during the Durararararararararararararararararara shoot and 90% of it was the same two characters x.x AND THERE WERE LIKE 60 PEOPLE THERE!

Other than the game something that I didn't hear that much of this con was the marco polo thing.

The free hug signs and when people hold out there arms expecting a hug from you and you already made eye contact and its awkward when you walk away without giving them a hug. I DON'T FREAKING KNOW YOU! YOU MAY SMELL! I"M WEARING NEXT TO NOTHING! LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE! I will say I am more inclined to give girls hugs than guys especially when I am wearing skimpy outfits.

[dark4ever]

Apparently the game was to end when the Prime Minister or something said "the game is done"... which happened two years ago... so the game is freaking done

Also, I really hate it when people brag on and on about how awesome their cosplay is. Sometimes they do it when other's ask, but I had this one Dressy Ciel that kept going on and on about how awesome her costume was... the back of her dress was ripped open, her wig was matted and she had no hat. Seriously, don't brag... it makes me really hate your cosplay, no matter what it looks like

Also, when people make fun of other cosplayers. As a plus size cosplayer, I can say it really really hurts. Just because you don't look like you walked right out of the show/video game/manga/book/tv show/whatever, doesn't make it a bad cosplay

[GregAtlas]

having the mystery game canceled was kind of annoying, but what can you do? **shrug**

[EmAino]

I don't see rooming with an absolute drama queen as an option, but I pick that.

[TheDevilsNightmare]

Annoying when People Stop in the Middle of the hall for pics -_-' Seriously move to the side or something, I cosplay Bleach the character is similar to me so thats why I cosplay it. I dont mind seeing alot of naruto, ouran and full metal alchemist. Thats not annoying most ppl know those series because thats what they started with. I started with Yu Yu Hakusho some other started with older anime.

[veraca]

"The Game". It was interesting to learn what it was my first con, but not really great after that.

I'm pretty lenient of people's costumes and what they choose to wear. I do want to gripe a little to some of them and kindly ask them to cover a certain portion of their body that I shouldn't have to see. For example, there was a gentleman, with his friend, who was addressing some cosplay issues with his lower half at the end of a quiet hall we were chilling at and it seemed like he wasn't wearing anything to cover his butt or front other than the cosplay bit. I didn't get a good look cause I didn't want to, but it was kind of awkward and I wanted to ask if he'd feel more comfortable doing that in the men's bathroom rather than in front of 5 girls sitting on the floor, 2 of which were minors.

I guess that falls under be mindful of what you wear and how you adjust yourself?

Free hugs. Awkward. Especially when all 3 days I was hugged by the same person. I did like how this individual waited to see any kind of ok from you before directly proceeding to hug.

o.o I'm sad to hear a lot of this picking-on and insulting business going on. I always hear of it, but never see it in person. If I have a comment to make, I think it. You can think whatever you want, but I don't believe that gives you the right to waltz up and tell them what's wrong with their costume. Maybe going up and asking if they'd like advice on a certain part, AND including to offer your contact info to further the conversation. If you aren't going to offer some solid good advice and be willing to possibly talk after-con, then kindly keep your lips shut.

[acton]

I agree to a point about cosplay, I do look for unusual cosplayers to take pictures. Many of the female Hetalia cosplayers starting to look same old same old to me.  Why I do not seem any male Hetalia cosplayers?

As a furry there is a false assumption one is needs to be in a animal costume to attend a furry convention (specially among press and shock jock trying to “infiltrate" the con get a scoop ) , I wonder there a similar false assumption about anime conventions;  that one has to  cosplay to attend anime  conventions.

As for "the game", I do not let it get to me; young people will be young people.

[XxBelovedxSoubixX]

Mostly people congesting halls and PEOPLE WHO SHOVE PAST YOU TO GET ON AN ELEVATOR. Nothing is more annoying then patiently waiting there in line and when it gets to the point where your the first person, a group of people squeeze up there after being there for 10 seconds and filling it up.. When you've been standing there for about 5 minutes waiting.. I don't mind if your staff or you have a valid reason for needing to get up there but when it's blatantly obvious that your just to damn lazy to stand in line its just rude.

[Fuyuko]

The one thing I get really fed up with at cons would be the unnecessary drama. I mean, come on! You're at a convention where you're supposed to forget about your troubles and have a good time while surrounded by an awesome and exciting atmosphere. People need to realize just how spoiled enough they are for being able to attend a convention in the first place, and learn to appreciate that! Have fun, damn it! >T

[zenneth]

i never get the game thing, but im guessing the multiple costumes... i want to stand out too, but then again, there's this sense of belonging when u are with someone with your costume... not sure, that's how i see with other people since they had more fun hanging out with people in the same costumes... when i found out there was another BRK other than me i had mixed feelings really, YAY sum1 also cosplayed BRS, NYUUU im not a unique cosplay anymore XDDD-- when i tried to hang around with the BRS team, we didnt really click-- but hey, it was worth the try. so i went off with my lone wolfy cannon once again XD

im just saying tho-- no offense to the BRS team-- you guys were awesome~!!! i just did wish we clicked more =w=

[Black~Rose]

about the #3

I am guilty of cosplaying a popular character but I always try to do something to make it stand out. Like I made Aerith's weapon because I dont see many people actually making that prop. And I actually made my bangs stick up. I belive that people will cosplay what they want and I'm fine with seeing multiples of the same cosplay. I choose to see it as they appreciate the same character that I also like and that is a good thing.

The most Annoying part? Probably the people that assign you a role in their little con day dream and will hug without warning and then run off again or stay to add to your confusion because you have no clue what they are talking about. I am always friendly to everyone unless they overstep their bounds (like leading into a creeper or sexual harrassment kind of way) But I would appreciate some distance and the ability to say yes or no to hugs and such. OH and the Cosplay chess. I wanted to see more mock battle style that made sense (not a bunch of random characters assisting out of the blue) and the use of the characters actual moves/ weapons I didn't see a lot of that and it dissapointed me. Oh and I wanted to duct tape the commentators mouths shut. Could not stand that laugh.

[Venusgate]

The free hug signs and when people hold out there arms expecting a hug from you and you already made eye contact and its awkward when you walk away without giving them a hug. I DON'T FREAKING KNOW YOU! YOU MAY SMELL! I"M WEARING NEXT TO NOTHING! LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE! I will say I am more inclined to give girls hugs than guys especially when I am wearing skimpy outfits.

[nikkiolie]

See that isn't too bad. If someone is wearing the sign and has people come up to them rather than the sign holder going up to people expecting hugs. It's much less awkward that way, people who want to give and get hugs will be happy rather than somone wanting a hug but not getting it. I am also much more likely to hug a cosplayer than someone just holding the sign.

[dark4ever]

I do think a lot about bad cosplays >.> I saw this one Ichigo cosplayer (Bleach) who had really bad hair, but he was really in character, so I started talking to him. He was a really great guy and fun to talk to, and we became con buddies. I feel like if you're going to be a little off, be in character!

Though it was funny seeing a Lizzie (Kuroshitsuji) outside smoking xD

[Blizzara Dragon]

about the #3

I am guilty of cosplaying a popular character but I always try to do something to make it stand out. Like I made Aerith's weapon because I dont see many people actually making that prop. And I actually made my bangs stick up. I belive that people will cosplay what they want and I'm fine with seeing multiples of the same cosplay. I choose to see it as they appreciate the same character that I also like and that is a good thing.

The most Annoying part? Probably the people that assign you a role in their little con day dream and will hug without warning and then run off again or stay to add to your confusion because you have no clue what they are talking about. I am always friendly to everyone unless they overstep their bounds (like leading into a creeper or sexual harrassment kind of way) But I would appreciate some distance and the ability to say yes or no to hugs and such. OH and the Cosplay chess. I wanted to see more mock battle style that made sense (not a bunch of random characters assisting out of the blue) and the use of the characters actual moves/ weapons I didn't see a lot of that and it dissapointed me. Oh and I wanted to duct tape the commentators mouths shut. Could not stand that laugh.

In defense of Cosplay Chess, this year not only were we trying out new things(commentators and music) but also audience members decided that they needed to be part of the action instead of leaving it to us pieces. I will admit though that this was the worst year I've seen since I started attending Kumoricon. We have multiple threads going on about working out the kinks and making next year extraordinary, so I hope you'll give us a try next year and have a much better experience.

[Saki-the-cat]

Too much stress and drama. When i go to a con, i want to relax and have an awesome time, not be crying because of the stress other people are causing for me. I'm seriously considering getting a room for myself next year just so i don't have to deal with dumb people and all their stress. The last thing i want to do is sit there for an hour waiting for people to get ready and end up missing a pannel or a time when i was sopposed to meet up with someone because we didn't get out and there on time.

[Jacob_Blackfeather]

my biggest issue is, is when people step on my outfit or drag me places I don't want to go or tie me up. 1. Ask me if I am okay with it and 2. don't find a person cosplaying the same character then tell me to my face i am too tall and say they are prettier! excuse me I worked hard on it and don't want it ruined nor do I want it bashed infront of me!

Also that dressy ciel with the tear on her back was a nice and intresting person indeed!

[zenneth]

my biggest issue is, is when people step on my outfit or drag me places I don't want to go or tie me up. 1. Ask me if I am okay with it and 2. don't find a person cosplaying the same character then tell me to my face i am too tall and say they are prettier! excuse me I worked hard on it and don't want it ruined nor do I want it bashed infront of me!

Also that dressy ciel with the tear on her back was a nice and intresting person indeed!

cosplayers like that only cosplay to boost their self esteem, dont mind them. =,..,=

[Jacob_Blackfeather]

my biggest issue is, is when people step on my outfit or drag me places I don't want to go or tie me up. 1. Ask me if I am okay with it and 2. don't find a person cosplaying the same character then tell me to my face i am too tall and say they are prettier! excuse me I worked hard on it and don't want it ruined nor do I want it bashed infront of me!

Also that dressy ciel with the tear on her back was a nice and intresting person indeed!

cosplayers like that only cosplay to boost their self esteem, dont mind them. =,..,=

It just ticks me off a tinni bit :C

[Black~Rose]

about the #3

I am guilty of cosplaying a popular character but I always try to do something to make it stand out. Like I made Aerith's weapon because I dont see many people actually making that prop. And I actually made my bangs stick up. I belive that people will cosplay what they want and I'm fine with seeing multiples of the same cosplay. I choose to see it as they appreciate the same character that I also like and that is a good thing.

The most Annoying part? Probably the people that assign you a role in their little con day dream and will hug without warning and then run off again or stay to add to your confusion because you have no clue what they are talking about. I am always friendly to everyone unless they overstep their bounds (like leading into a creeper or sexual harrassment kind of way) But I would appreciate some distance and the ability to say yes or no to hugs and such. OH and the Cosplay chess. I wanted to see more mock battle style that made sense (not a bunch of random characters assisting out of the blue) and the use of the characters actual moves/ weapons I didn't see a lot of that and it dissapointed me. Oh and I wanted to duct tape the commentators mouths shut. Could not stand that laugh.

In defense of Cosplay Chess, this year not only were we trying out new things(commentators and music) but also audience members decided that they needed to be part of the action instead of leaving it to us pieces. I will admit though that this was the worst year I've seen since I started attending Kumoricon. We have multiple threads going on about working out the kinks and making next year extraordinary, so I hope you'll give us a try next year and have a much better experience.

Oh I'm giving it a try. I actually plan to maybe enter next year because it looked like fun even though it was disappointing. The audience should stay out of it I think if thats what was happening. The handing weapons to Mokina wasn't that bad (fairly entertaining) But the random things popping up for support of characters that didnt even make sense in the slightest... That was a tad annoying.

[ScrumYummy]

The only thing that REALLY gets on my nerves at conventions (any convention) is hall-clogging. But honestly, that wasn't as much of an issue at this year's Kumoricon--the halls were nice and wide, and people were usually considerate about trying to get out of the way for pictures (or conversely, leaving space for others to go around them). So I actually don't feel like it's a legitimate complaint this year

Also, as others have mentioned, UNNECESSARY DRAMA, but again I feel like there was less of that this year. Over-all I feel pretty positively about kumoricon right now

[reppy]

There is this one person that completely rubs me the wrong way (in a "creeper" way) and always wants hugs.  :X  I've never turned down a hug but to be honest I would start to avoid this person after awhile. 

[Black~Rose]

There have been a few creepy people at conventions. One actually tried to kiss me out of the blue! X_X Even if you are joking about it you need to ask before you randomly grab someone and move your face too close X_X Besides that I was spoken for at that time so it wouldnt have been good!

[Shadow]

I'm sure most of these have been said already, but here's my two cents (I'll even bold the ones that are extra annoying!):

- The game.
- Mainstream cosplays. (It's unfortunate seeing the same characters over and over again.)
- People thinking that just because you're at a convention means they can forget all common sense and manners.
- People who can't recognize when a conversation is over. (And you're trying your best to be polite, but it's just like, "Yeah.. um... I have to.. go..".)
- Weeboos. (I know, I know, I'm at an anime convention.)
- The Glomp Circle. (Yes I still have a vendetta against it from last year's incident.)
- People asking for photos at inappropriate times.
- People clogging the halls.
- Con creepers.
- Con drama.
- People who aren't respectful of fragile or expensive costumes.
- Loud people. (Srsly. Shut up.)

I know, I'm a crotchety old lady. :B

[EveofAbyss]

There have been a few creepy people at conventions. One actually tried to kiss me out of the blue! X_X Even if you are joking about it you need to ask before you randomly grab someone and move your face too close X_X Besides that I was spoken for at that time so it wouldnt have been good!

Cheek kiss or lip kiss? (It probably doesn't matter, but at least on the cheek there's maybe some excuse as it could be considered a greeting, lol)

[Black~Rose]

There have been a few creepy people at conventions. One actually tried to kiss me out of the blue! X_X Even if you are joking about it you need to ask before you randomly grab someone and move your face too close X_X Besides that I was spoken for at that time so it wouldnt have been good!

Cheek kiss or lip kiss? (It probably doesn't matter, but at least on the cheek there's maybe some excuse as it could be considered a greeting, lol)

Lip XP It was a Vincent Cosplayer When I first cosplayed Lucrecia in 2009

[Chibiorochimaru]

There have been a few creepy people at conventions. One actually tried to kiss me out of the blue! X_X Even if you are joking about it you need to ask before you randomly grab someone and move your face too close X_X Besides that I was spoken for at that time so it wouldnt have been good!

Cheek kiss or lip kiss? (It probably doesn't matter, but at least on the cheek there's maybe some excuse as it could be considered a greeting, lol)

Lip XP It was a Vincent Cosplayer When I first cosplayed Lucrecia in 2009

I Think I know this cosplayer you speak of >->; I got pinned down by a vincent in 2009 and he tried to french kiss me when I was cosplaying Zidane...

[Black~Rose]

There have been a few creepy people at conventions. One actually tried to kiss me out of the blue! X_X Even if you are joking about it you need to ask before you randomly grab someone and move your face too close X_X Besides that I was spoken for at that time so it wouldnt have been good!

Cheek kiss or lip kiss? (It probably doesn't matter, but at least on the cheek there's maybe some excuse as it could be considered a greeting, lol)

Lip XP It was a Vincent Cosplayer When I first cosplayed Lucrecia in 2009

I Think I know this cosplayer you speak of >->; I got pinned down by a vincent in 2009 and he tried to french kiss me when I was cosplaying Zidane...

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1039364641456.5368.1745730076&l=ede124dabc&type=1 In the pictures there is pictures of a turk vincent and a red cloaked vincent. The turk was my friend and the other one was the creepy vincent.

[Chibiorochimaru]

There have been a few creepy people at conventions. One actually tried to kiss me out of the blue! X_X Even if you are joking about it you need to ask before you randomly grab someone and move your face too close X_X Besides that I was spoken for at that time so it wouldnt have been good!

Cheek kiss or lip kiss? (It probably doesn't matter, but at least on the cheek there's maybe some excuse as it could be considered a greeting, lol)

Lip XP It was a Vincent Cosplayer When I first cosplayed Lucrecia in 2009

I Think I know this cosplayer you speak of >->; I got pinned down by a vincent in 2009 and he tried to french kiss me when I was cosplaying Zidane...

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1039364641456.5368.1745730076&l=ede124dabc&type=1 In the pictures there is pictures of a turk vincent and a red cloaked vincent. The turk was my friend and the other one was the creepy vincent.

Oh god yea thats the same vincent >< I'm sorry he got you guys too. He almost tried to kiss my girlfriend as well v.v

[EveofAbyss]

^^ Wow, that most definitely crosses the line. Some people, some close friends, can take their cosplaying to that level, kissing in character and what-not, and if it's agreed upon between them, that's one thing. But just up and trying to put the moves on a stranger...no effin' way. Hopefully someone reported the guy.

[Black~Rose]

There have been a few creepy people at conventions. One actually tried to kiss me out of the blue! X_X Even if you are joking about it you need to ask before you randomly grab someone and move your face too close X_X Besides that I was spoken for at that time so it wouldnt have been good!

Cheek kiss or lip kiss? (It probably doesn't matter, but at least on the cheek there's maybe some excuse as it could be considered a greeting, lol)

Lip XP It was a Vincent Cosplayer When I first cosplayed Lucrecia in 2009

I Think I know this cosplayer you speak of >->; I got pinned down by a vincent in 2009 and he tried to french kiss me when I was cosplaying Zidane...

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1039364641456.5368.1745730076&l=ede124dabc&type=1 In the pictures there is pictures of a turk vincent and a red cloaked vincent. The turk was my friend and the other one was the creepy vincent.

Oh god yea thats the same vincent >< I'm sorry he got you guys too. He almost tried to kiss my girlfriend as well v.v

Yikes X_X Some people have no sense of boundaries it seems.

^^ Wow, that most definitely crosses the line. Some people, some close friends, can take their cosplaying to that level, kissing in character and what-not, and if it's agreed upon between them, that's one thing. But just up and trying to put the moves on a stranger...no effin' way. Hopefully someone reported the guy.

I wish I had reported him.

[Fuyuko]

- People thinking that just because you're at a convention means they can forget all common sense and manners.

YES, THIS. I would have to put that as my second most irritating observation at cons. People can get so carried away in their own little world that they don't even consider the fact that reality is still happening around them. What I don't like is when they turn into a-holes when they are required to step off (for even a brief moment) of their happy little cloud for the sake of someone else's comfort, whether they are a convention attendee or not. Boundaries, people! They are needed, even at conventions!!

[bunny_jean]

- People thinking that just because you're at a convention means they can forget all common sense and manners.

YES, THIS. I would have to put that as my second most irritating observation at cons. People can get so carried away in their own little world that they don't even consider the fact that reality is still happening around them. What I don't like is when they turn into a-holes when they are required to step off (for even a brief moment) of their happy little cloud for the sake of someone else's comfort, whether they are a convention attendee or not. Boundaries, people! They are needed, even at conventions!!

I was walking along the sidewalk outside of the Hilton this year and a girl seriously just walked right into me, didn't stop, and didn't apologize. I didn't have any room on my other side to move and she must have had about three persons worth of space on her other side. WTF.

[IrukaSensei]

For me? Personally? All of the minors that have no manners. I don't mind the ones that have them, but all the bloody green badges with absolutely no manners to speak of. They think that because they are under the age of 18, they entitled to do whatever they want. I had three photos ruined by greenbadges. I was up on the fish, late at night, and they all decided to try and climb and get up there too. While the person was trying to take the picture. And I asked them three times to get down, and they just asked me who I thought I was, and why I thought that I had the right to tell them what to do.

There went that photo op. I barely get pictures taken of me at con as is, even when I do have a really good cosplay.

Also, that's another thing that annoys me. I know that people are looking for certain cosplayers, but do you know how much it picks up someones day to be asked to have a picture taken of them? It's like someone shoved your own personal sunbeam into a persons heart. It's a beautiful feeling. Especially if they are wearing a nice outfit, but aren't a character from a series. People, stop to actually think that not just the 'popular' cosplays need pictures taken. Even if you don't KNOW a series, perhaps stopping to ask for their picture would actually really help their day out.

I ended up sitting in the park, on saturday night, just before all the minors were kicked out. I was sitting with a group of nearly twenty cosplayers, tucked away in the park, who had never had their picture taken the whole convention.

So i guess what annoys me most is that people think they are all that at conventions, and don't stop to consider other peoples feelings.

[nikkiolie]

about the #3

I am guilty of cosplaying a popular character but I always try to do something to make it stand out. Like I made Aerith's weapon because I dont see many people actually making that prop. And I actually made my bangs stick up. I belive that people will cosplay what they want and I'm fine with seeing multiples of the same cosplay. I choose to see it as they appreciate the same character that I also like and that is a good thing.

The most Annoying part? Probably the people that assign you a role in their little con day dream and will hug without warning and then run off again or stay to add to your confusion because you have no clue what they are talking about. I am always friendly to everyone unless they overstep their bounds (like leading into a creeper or sexual harrassment kind of way) But I would appreciate some distance and the ability to say yes or no to hugs and such. OH and the Cosplay chess. I wanted to see more mock battle style that made sense (not a bunch of random characters assisting out of the blue) and the use of the characters actual moves/ weapons I didn't see a lot of that and it dissapointed me. Oh and I wanted to duct tape the commentators mouths shut. Could not stand that laugh.

In defense of Cosplay Chess, this year not only were we trying out new things(commentators and music) but also audience members decided that they needed to be part of the action instead of leaving it to us pieces. I will admit though that this was the worst year I've seen since I started attending Kumoricon. We have multiple threads going on about working out the kinks and making next year extraordinary, so I hope you'll give us a try next year and have a much better experience.

They weren't necessary audience members. They were alternates that were sad they didn't get to play. And before the game even started there was a chance for the chess pieces to ask for help FROM the alternates. I think it got carried away a bit but I am pretty sure some of them were planed. If there was a giant rush then I don't think it was planned. I think I remember when one chess piece actually called out to the Inuyasha cosplayer, that seemed planned to me.

[Saki-the-cat]

Another thing that sort of bothers me is when people don't respect other peoples personal space. I enjoy hugging, cuddling, and snuggling and all that, but it would be nice to be able to do all that without having my ass grabbed or my face kissed by some random stranger i just met. It just doesn't make me comfortable :I At one point i got surprize tongue kissed by someone i was hanging out with at a photoshoot, which i really wasn't all too happy about...Let's just say i didn't hang out with them after that.

[nikkiolie]

Another thing that sort of bothers me is when people don't respect other peoples personal space. I enjoy hugging, cuddling, and snuggling and all that, but it would be nice to be able to do all that without having my ass grabbed or my face kissed by some random stranger i just met. It just doesn't make me comfortable :I At one point i got surprize tongue kissed by someone i was hanging out with at a photoshoot, which i really wasn't all too happy about...Let's just say i didn't hang out with them after that.

That seems to happen the most with the most popular cosplays like Durarara and Hetalia (at this moment). You will find that if you cosplay less popular stuff it is less likely to happen since all the weeaboos aren't cosplaying for it either. In all my years going to a con it seems like the most immature people are the ones cosplaying from the popular series. Not everyone is immature that cosplays from them but it seems like the marge majority is.

[Black~Rose]

Another thing that sort of bothers me is when people don't respect other peoples personal space. I enjoy hugging, cuddling, and snuggling and all that, but it would be nice to be able to do all that without having my ass grabbed or my face kissed by some random stranger i just met. It just doesn't make me comfortable :I At one point i got surprize tongue kissed by someone i was hanging out with at a photoshoot, which i really wasn't all too happy about...Let's just say i didn't hang out with them after that.

That seems to happen the most with the most popular cosplays like Durarara and Hetalia (at this moment). You will find that if you cosplay less popular stuff it is less likely to happen since all the weeaboos aren't cosplaying for it either. In all my years going to a con it seems like the most immature people are the ones cosplaying from the popular series. Not everyone is immature that cosplays from them but it seems like the marge majority is.

This being the reason I am terrified of cosplaying Hetalia X_X I am for my group and because I do like it but oh man I am afraid of people.

[Saki-the-cat]

Another thing that sort of bothers me is when people don't respect other peoples personal space. I enjoy hugging, cuddling, and snuggling and all that, but it would be nice to be able to do all that without having my ass grabbed or my face kissed by some random stranger i just met. It just doesn't make me comfortable :I At one point i got surprize tongue kissed by someone i was hanging out with at a photoshoot, which i really wasn't all too happy about...Let's just say i didn't hang out with them after that.

That seems to happen the most with the most popular cosplays like Durarara and Hetalia (at this moment). You will find that if you cosplay less popular stuff it is less likely to happen since all the weeaboos aren't cosplaying for it either. In all my years going to a con it seems like the most immature people are the ones cosplaying from the popular series. Not everyone is immature that cosplays from them but it seems like the marge majority is.

Yeah, i've noticed that too. I try not to let it ruin my fun of cosplaying from a series though. Hetalia has been my favorite for over two years now, so i wouldn't let a bunch of insane fans ruin it for me. I have, however, met a ton of really great people and made a lot of friends at meetups and cons just from cosplaying Hetalia, so it's totally been worth it because of that. You just need to figure out how to pick through the pile of needles in order to find those few pieces of hay, so to speak :3

[EveofAbyss]

Another thing that sort of bothers me is when people don't respect other peoples personal space. I enjoy hugging, cuddling, and snuggling and all that, but it would be nice to be able to do all that without having my ass grabbed or my face kissed by some random stranger i just met. It just doesn't make me comfortable :I At one point i got surprize tongue kissed by someone i was hanging out with at a photoshoot, which i really wasn't all too happy about...Let's just say i didn't hang out with them after that.

That seems to happen the most with the most popular cosplays like Durarara and Hetalia (at this moment). You will find that if you cosplay less popular stuff it is less likely to happen since all the weeaboos aren't cosplaying for it either. In all my years going to a con it seems like the most immature people are the ones cosplaying from the popular series. Not everyone is immature that cosplays from them but it seems like the marge majority is.

This being the reason I am terrified of cosplaying Hetalia X_X I am for my group and because I do like it but oh man I am afraid of people.

Well, you should never let someone or something intimidate you from cosplaying someone you really want to. Just try to keep yourself surrounded by people you trust, who you know will keep creepers away. I will gladly provide this service if desired, even if I'm not cosplaying Hetalia, heh.

[Blizzara Dragon]

about the #3

I am guilty of cosplaying a popular character but I always try to do something to make it stand out. Like I made Aerith's weapon because I dont see many people actually making that prop. And I actually made my bangs stick up. I belive that people will cosplay what they want and I'm fine with seeing multiples of the same cosplay. I choose to see it as they appreciate the same character that I also like and that is a good thing.

The most Annoying part? Probably the people that assign you a role in their little con day dream and will hug without warning and then run off again or stay to add to your confusion because you have no clue what they are talking about. I am always friendly to everyone unless they overstep their bounds (like leading into a creeper or sexual harrassment kind of way) But I would appreciate some distance and the ability to say yes or no to hugs and such. OH and the Cosplay chess. I wanted to see more mock battle style that made sense (not a bunch of random characters assisting out of the blue) and the use of the characters actual moves/ weapons I didn't see a lot of that and it dissapointed me. Oh and I wanted to duct tape the commentators mouths shut. Could not stand that laugh.

In defense of Cosplay Chess, this year not only were we trying out new things(commentators and music) but also audience members decided that they needed to be part of the action instead of leaving it to us pieces. I will admit though that this was the worst year I've seen since I started attending Kumoricon. We have multiple threads going on about working out the kinks and making next year extraordinary, so I hope you'll give us a try next year and have a much better experience.

They weren't necessary audience members. They were alternates that were sad they didn't get to play. And before the game even started there was a chance for the chess pieces to ask for help FROM the alternates. I think it got carried away a bit but I am pretty sure some of them were planed. If there was a giant rush then I don't think it was planned. I think I remember when one chess piece actually called out to the Inuyasha cosplayer, that seemed planned to me.

That is true, there were a mix of people from both audience and alternates that jumped in. However, unless you are summoned to the board you are an audience member for the time being. Simply because you are a possible summon doesn't mean you can jump onto the board on a whim. Yes it sucks that you weren't chosen as a piece, but that doesn't mean you can interrupt the action and alter the experience of pieces and audience members.

Some were planned, but they were in the minority by a fair amount. The Jirachi was planned both times, Inuyasha the first time was planned, Chelsea and me helping Lightning was planned. The random giant groups of people were not planned. As far as I gathered, the only planned one that involved more than one character was when Lightning summoned us.

[Bresslol]

Cosplay Elitism is questionably absent from this list, and it's my #1 choice. As a fan, yay, you cosplayed something and it's a good costume. This DOESN'T mean you get to be a prick to other people whose skills aren't as good as yours. It happens in my circle of friends and I see it at cons all the time. To those elitist cosplayers, if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.

[@random]

Also, that's another thing that annoys me. I know that people are looking for certain cosplayers, but do you know how much it picks up someones day to be asked to have a picture taken of them? It's like someone shoved your own personal sunbeam into a persons heart. It's a beautiful feeling. Especially if they are wearing a nice outfit, but aren't a character from a series. People, stop to actually think that not just the 'popular' cosplays need pictures taken. Even if you don't KNOW a series, perhaps stopping to ask for their picture would actually really help their day out.

I ended up sitting in the park, on saturday night, just before all the minors were kicked out. I was sitting with a group of nearly twenty cosplayers, tucked away in the park, who had never had their picture taken the whole convention.

So i guess what annoys me most is that people think they are all that at conventions, and don't stop to consider other peoples feelings.

I hear ya. You might be able to tell from my avatar, but Hatori Sohma (Fruits Basket) is one of my favorite characters... and it makes me a little sad to do the cosplay and have few to no people recognize the character or want to take a picture.

But you know, sometimes you have to choose what you most want. I love cosplaying Hatori, whether people recognize him or not. But I wouldn't recommend cosplaying him to someone who really wants to be recognized and have their picture taken.

Some people cosplay characters that are popular rather than the ones they love, because recognition is the most important to them. And others are lucky enough to love characters that are popular, getting the best of both worlds. But if the character is more important to you than the recognition? All you can really do is make the cos as recognizable as possible, then suck it up and treasure the moments when someone recognizes you all the more.

And those moments do become priceless when they're few and far between. It usually means you've found someone who loves the character as much as you do, and you can't beat that experience.

[IrukaSensei]

Random, wait you were at Kumoricon! As Hatori?!? Oh goddess, if I have known you were there I'd be cuddling you. Sorry if that sounds weird, but Hatori and Ayame are my favorite characters from that series. Hatori because I just break inside when I remember his story, and Ayame cause I love snakes.

[zenneth]

Another thing that sort of bothers me is when people don't respect other peoples personal space. I enjoy hugging, cuddling, and snuggling and all that, but it would be nice to be able to do all that without having my ass grabbed or my face kissed by some random stranger i just met. It just doesn't make me comfortable :I At one point i got surprize tongue kissed by someone i was hanging out with at a photoshoot, which i really wasn't all too happy about...Let's just say i didn't hang out with them after that.

tongue kissed? D8

scary...

[@random]

Random, wait you were at Kumoricon! As Hatori?!? Oh goddess, if I have known you were there I'd be cuddling you. Sorry if that sounds weird, but Hatori and Ayame are my favorite characters from that series. Hatori because I just break inside when I remember his story, and Ayame cause I love snakes.

I actually didn't cosplay him this year (too busy running around in circles), but I did in 2009 and 2010. And if I get a chance, I'll try again next year.

Thank you for the encouragement; it really does make me feel a lot better to know other people love the character as well.

[Black~Rose]

Also, that's another thing that annoys me. I know that people are looking for certain cosplayers, but do you know how much it picks up someones day to be asked to have a picture taken of them? It's like someone shoved your own personal sunbeam into a persons heart. It's a beautiful feeling. Especially if they are wearing a nice outfit, but aren't a character from a series. People, stop to actually think that not just the 'popular' cosplays need pictures taken. Even if you don't KNOW a series, perhaps stopping to ask for their picture would actually really help their day out.

I ended up sitting in the park, on saturday night, just before all the minors were kicked out. I was sitting with a group of nearly twenty cosplayers, tucked away in the park, who had never had their picture taken the whole convention.

So i guess what annoys me most is that people think they are all that at conventions, and don't stop to consider other peoples feelings.

I hear ya. You might be able to tell from my avatar, but Hatori Sohma (Fruits Basket) is one of my favorite characters... and it makes me a little sad to do the cosplay and have few to no people recognize the character or want to take a picture.

But you know, sometimes you have to choose what you most want. I love cosplaying Hatori, whether people recognize him or not. But I wouldn't recommend cosplaying him to someone who really wants to be recognized and have their picture taken.

Some people cosplay characters that are popular rather than the ones they love, because recognition is the most important to them. And others are lucky enough to love characters that are popular, getting the best of both worlds. But if the character is more important to you than the recognition? All you can really do is make the cos as recognizable as possible, then suck it up and treasure the moments when someone recognizes you all the more.

And those moments do become priceless when they're few and far between. It usually means you've found someone who loves the character as much as you do, and you can't beat that experience.

Sometimes its not even about not recognizing the character but being to busy with your quest to stop and ask for someones picture. I saw so many people I wanted pictures of but my camera was being finicky and not working half the time and then sometimes I was just on a mission and had no time to stop. Its partially about being at the right place at the right time. While yes it does suck to not have your picture taken. People cosplaying OC's should do so with an understanding that not a lot of people are gonna be running up to take a picture because they have no idea what you are from, or they will take your picture and think you are something else entirely. Just try hanging out and being silly (but mature and respectful about it) and sometimes that will get you more photo ops because people like to remember who they hung out with. Or make something fantastic that makes your OC stand out. I only took one photo of an OC cosplayer because he had made some pretty cool armor and I thought it was awesome so it caught my attention.

[GregAtlas]

Another thing to add to the list of annoyances: Having to choose between panels and activities due to overlapping schedules. I know this can't be helped much but it still makes a libra like me torn inside when having to choose. (I don't believe in star signs, but I am a typical libra for the most part)

Character I would most want to be at a convention if I could have their special powers: Naruto for the shadow clones.

Also, that's another thing that annoys me. I know that people are looking for certain cosplayers, but do you know how much it picks up someones day to be asked to have a picture taken of them? It's like someone shoved your own personal sunbeam into a persons heart. It's a beautiful feeling. Especially if they are wearing a nice outfit, but aren't a character from a series. People, stop to actually think that not just the 'popular' cosplays need pictures taken. Even if you don't KNOW a series, perhaps stopping to ask for their picture would actually really help their day out.

I ended up sitting in the park, on saturday night, just before all the minors were kicked out. I was sitting with a group of nearly twenty cosplayers, tucked away in the park, who had never had their picture taken the whole convention.

It would be nice to have a photo-op meet for people who haven't had their pictures taken but would like to... Day 2 I didn't get any pictures taken of me (that I know of) except for the photo booth so I would have loved to join the group in the park and take pictures with each other. :3

There were actually quite a few people I wanted to take pictures of but being all sorts of shy inside made me feel like a creeper if I were to ask, like those two girls in the purple and green corsets for example. I would have loved to get their pictures even though I don't think they were from an anime, and I did actually get quite a few pictures of people who weren't from any series that I knew but I appreciated the art (for example, the girl in the pink dress I think people are calling Ceil I am learning now. Awesome cosplay, but I have no clue where it is from.)

Also, that's another thing that annoys me. I know that people are looking for certain cosplayers, but do you know how much it picks up someones day to be asked to have a picture taken of them? It's like someone shoved your own personal sunbeam into a persons heart. It's a beautiful feeling. Especially if they are wearing a nice outfit, but aren't a character from a series. People, stop to actually think that not just the 'popular' cosplays need pictures taken. Even if you don't KNOW a series, perhaps stopping to ask for their picture would actually really help their day out.

I ended up sitting in the park, on saturday night, just before all the minors were kicked out. I was sitting with a group of nearly twenty cosplayers, tucked away in the park, who had never had their picture taken the whole convention.

So i guess what annoys me most is that people think they are all that at conventions, and don't stop to consider other peoples feelings.

I hear ya. You might be able to tell from my avatar, but Hatori Sohma (Fruits Basket) is one of my favorite characters... and it makes me a little sad to do the cosplay and have few to no people recognize the character or want to take a picture.

But you know, sometimes you have to choose what you most want. I love cosplaying Hatori, whether people recognize him or not. But I wouldn't recommend cosplaying him to someone who really wants to be recognized and have their picture taken.

Some people cosplay characters that are popular rather than the ones they love, because recognition is the most important to them. And others are lucky enough to love characters that are popular, getting the best of both worlds. But if the character is more important to you than the recognition? All you can really do is make the cos as recognizable as possible, then suck it up and treasure the moments when someone recognizes you all the more.

And those moments do become priceless when they're few and far between. It usually means you've found someone who loves the character as much as you do, and you can't beat that experience.

It is awesome to cosplay as a character you love, but of course there are risks to consider... like in this case cosplaying the girl from Fruits Basket... She looks like an ordinary girl for the most part that unfortunately would be hard to spot compared to a Misa or those Mew Mew girls. It still comes down to art composition that the human eye is going to be drawn to bright flashy abnormal things unless you have a keen eye or perhaps if that character is with a group of other cosplayers from the same series that would help them pop out in a crowd. Each cosplay has a risk associated with it whether it is the risk of getting french kissed or getting passed by. Respect for anyone who tries these types of cosplays that might not get noticed no matter how good they are.

Oh yeah, another annoyance that can't be helped... people being creeped out by you just based on natural looks. I'm happy I got a fair ammount of hugs, but I was created with this face and body that I have no replacement parts for as of yet. I wish I could be cute and attractive but on the bright side, when I am trying to be creepy it tends to work fairly well (I'm so looking forward to making a Kefka cosplay some day despite being tall).

x_x sorry this post is so long...

[Black~Rose]

@great Atlas. Depending on which Ciel you got. It might have been my friend lol. And I agree. There should be a Photoshoot planned for OC's

[Jacob_Blackfeather]

there were a lot of ciels and yes I do get annoyied when there are many of the same cosplay, but sometimes we just have to deal with it because of the popularity of the anime at that time.... But yes it's very annoying.

[reppy]

There went that photo op. I barely get pictures taken of me at con as is, even when I do have a really good cosplay.

Also, that's another thing that annoys me. I know that people are looking for certain cosplayers, but do you know how much it picks up someones day to be asked to have a picture taken of them? It's like someone shoved your own personal sunbeam into a persons heart. It's a beautiful feeling. Especially if they are wearing a nice outfit, but aren't a character from a series. People, stop to actually think that not just the 'popular' cosplays need pictures taken. Even if you don't KNOW a series, perhaps stopping to ask for their picture would actually really help their day out.

I always try to get pictures of people, regardless of what costume (anime, steampunk, lolita) they're wearing.  In some cases, it's hard to get pictures because people look so busy.  But I do make an effort, especially if I see someone by themselves and they look sort of bored and lonely.  You can definitely tell it cheers them up pretty quick.  They usually have a, "what? me? seriously?" look on their face and then they're very happy to oblige. ^_^

[GregAtlas]

^ Agreed. Oh, and also the people expecting me to take a picture of just the "pretty" one but I wanted a picture of both of them, especially since they're from the same series O.o

I took single pictures of each person when necessary, but I have to feel sorry for the people who are used to people asking for just single pictures of their friends because their outfit isn't up to that level. lol... I say that as I remember I was one of those people, but it was different since Kaito and Jill Valentine aren't even in the same series and my outfit was only about 85% complete.

[reppy]

^ Agreed. Oh, and also the people expecting me to take a picture of just the "pretty" one but I wanted a picture of both of them, especially since they're from the same series O.o

I took single pictures of each person when necessary, but I have to feel sorry for the people who are used to people asking for just single pictures of their friends because their outfit isn't up to that level. lol... I say that as I remember I was one of those people, but it was different since Kaito and Jill Valentine aren't even in the same series and my outfit was only about 85% complete.

oh yeah, srsly.  I'd ask for a photo, and like one of the people ducks away.

"What?! Where are you going? I want your picture, too!"

"But.. we're.. we're not from the same series!"

"Psh! Pretend it's a crossover fanfic!" 

[SpaceCubaLikesConan]

The people who brag are the worst. It makes me wanna rip their wig off and burn it, then slice their costume up.
But I'm a good person, so I hold that anger back ^^

[@random]

It would be nice to have a photo-op meet for people who haven't had their pictures taken but would like to... Day 2 I didn't get any pictures taken of me (that I know of) except for the photo booth so I would have loved to join the group in the park and take pictures with each other. :3

That's a nifty idea... when it gets closer to next con, I think a lot of people would love you for hosting a "Rare Cosplays" shoot time, with the theme being cosplays that don't get as much attention. In fact, I'm pretty sure you'd have to host it in the park just to have enough space for everyone.  

[dark4ever]

Also, that's another thing that annoys me. I know that people are looking for certain cosplayers, but do you know how much it picks up someones day to be asked to have a picture taken of them? It's like someone shoved your own personal sunbeam into a persons heart. It's a beautiful feeling. Especially if they are wearing a nice outfit, but aren't a character from a series. People, stop to actually think that not just the 'popular' cosplays need pictures taken. Even if you don't KNOW a series, perhaps stopping to ask for their picture would actually really help their day out.

I know what you mean! This year was my first year having people ask for my picture, and even though it was probably mostly because of the scavenger hunt, I felt so special and loved. Even when people just asked for a hug (I was one of the lucky ones; people ran at me and scared the bejesus out of me, but that was mostly because they were dressed as scary characters...).

A couple years ago, at my first con, I took loads of pictures just because I liked the outfit. I went back a few weeks ago and realized just how many of those "unknown cosplays" I now know. It's like a little time capsule of ignorance.

[veraca]

._. All these stories just enforce my idea of making a sign that says "No Touchy" or something on it for my back. As much as I know hugs and stuff come with cons, I try to venture away from glomp circles if only for the fact that I'm the size some hyper person is going to pick up and swing me around like a body pillow. *shivers*
Though, a sign saying "don't touch" will probably encourage people to come closer and to touch. Same if I had a "no hugs please" sign. They'll wanna do it, specifically because the sign says don't. Not that everyone would, but those people are out there..

[GregAtlas]

Were paddle abusers ever really bad a kumoricon? this is my first time going and read they were banned. From what I've heard of happenings at other conventions I certainly agree with the ban.

And to be honest I'm not even familiar with what these paddles are, but the stories tell me enough that it would be uncomfortable pretty much getting assaulted every 2 minutes without your permission.

[IrukaSensei]

I actually really appreciate the way people are responding to this. It's not even so much the OC cosplays, but the people wearing pretty awesome looking normal clothing. I mean a cosplayer I know, who wasn't at con this year, usually walks around wearing a Kakashi wig and bondage type clothing. It looks bloody awesome, and it's a great cosplay. I think setting up a Photoshoot, probably sometime before noon on the last day of con, for Cosplayers who haven't had their picture taken much, would be an awesome idea. Even if the cosplay isn't that very good, or it's just really awesome costume work, but not any sort of character from any series, just something in their closet.

I'm actually really really happy that people responded this way. This year at con, I was asked to have my picture taken a couple of times. I was doing mY OC, and I'll admit my school girl outfit and wig were actually very well done. (Thanks to two friends that helped me with my wig, once before con and once after.)... Like the first time, I literally was in shock, because I never expected for someone to ask for my picture. I was in the park talking to Durarara cosplayers on Day 1, and someone asked me for my picture. I was in utter shock, I never expected it. Then there was a few other times, some by friends mostly, but the point is that it really did pick up my day.

Seriously, even the lesser known characters, like my other Cosplay (Female Martial Arts Turk, Final Fantasy VII: Before Crisis and Last Order), get even less attention then normal people. I love it when people actually recognize the character I am doing out of the love for the character. Everytime my picture was taken the look on my face was "Seriously? You want me? But I'm not even from this - or I'm not even that good looking."

The people that took my picture, really picked up my day.

[dark4ever]

Wait... Iruka, were you the girl with the silver hair at the Kingdom Hearts 101 panel?

Also, on the photoshoot, as great as that would be, that conflicts with cosplay chess, which I would rather go to... plus sometimes cosplayers won't be wearing their outfits on the third day. Maybe late on day 2?

[IrukaSensei]

The one with the long white/silver wig? In a braid? And the pale blue school girl outfit? Chya, that was me. I was recording the whole pannel. And Riku raped me >.< In the back of the room. While he was supposedp to be getting water.

[dark4ever]

I remember you! I kept trying to get a picture of you, but as soon as I clicked the camera you'd move or twitch or someone got in my way... I went looking for you after but I couldn't find you D8

[IrukaSensei]

LOL, why would you want a picture of me? It was just an OC cosplay. *snickers* But it's fine, I have the whole cosplay still, use the schoolgirl part for work mostly. Anyways, if you like, and you live nearby, you can get all the pictures you want of it.

[kit2kit]

PDA. People who think that just because they're at a con, that its okay to suddenly become intimate with strangers or just in public. I dont mind if the the people are actually together or if its a peck on a FRIENDS cheek or something like that. But when its with strangers, that's just creepy or if 2 people are making physical sexual jokes.
Also, rape jokes. Those are really bad. :C

I mean. not everyone is comfortable with that. And there are still people outside the con walking around. bleh.

[Washougal_Otaku]

PDA. People who think that just because they're at a con, that its okay to suddenly become intimate with strangers or just in public. I dont mind if the the people are actually together or if its a peck on a FRIENDS cheek or something like that. But when its with strangers, that's just creepy or if 2 people are making physical sexual jokes.
Also, rape jokes. Those are really bad. :C

I mean. not everyone is comfortable with that. And there are still people outside the con walking around. bleh.

I agree wholeheartedly, especially with the first one.

[dark4ever]

LOL, why would you want a picture of me? It was just an OC cosplay. *snickers* But it's fine, I have the whole cosplay still, use the schoolgirl part for work mostly. Anyways, if you like, and you live nearby, you can get all the pictures you want of it.

Because you looked really pretty D8 And as an OC cosplayer, I totally respect that. And your wig was really pretty >.> Just sayin'

I'm about to move to the Salem area... if that means anything. I'm about to start at western oregon

[IrukaSensei]

LOL, why would you want a picture of me? It was just an OC cosplay. *snickers* But it's fine, I have the whole cosplay still, use the schoolgirl part for work mostly. Anyways, if you like, and you live nearby, you can get all the pictures you want of it.

Because you looked really pretty D8 And as an OC cosplayer, I totally respect that. And your wig was really pretty >.> Just sayin'

I'm about to move to the Salem area... if that means anything. I'm about to start at western oregon

I'm in Tigard, if you wanna come by and say hello to me before you get to Salem, just let me know. Tomorrow I have a doctors appointment at 3. Working Sat night, and Sunday night. Dunno next weeks schedule. If you want my attention, might be best to get in touch with me, and let me know what day you want. There is several places in the nearby area, that we can walk/bus too, and take pictures.

[Black~Rose]

I'm about to move to the Salem area... if that means anything. I'm about to start at western oregon

I live in Salem! =D

[dark4ever]

@ Iruka- I live in the other direction xD Over by Corvallis.

@ Black Rose- We should totally hang! Have a cosplay shoot with Aerith... and Undertaker? xD

[IrukaSensei]

dark: You gonna be at the Uwajimaya's Festival next weekend?

[Tanuki19]

I definitely voted the game. I hate it with a burning passion. As much as I hate "the cake is a lie". which is A LOT. We're not all 13 years old anymore, kids. Play that during your recess.

Another annoying thing is LITTERERS. Just because you're in the park doesn't mean you own it! This is one of the reasons Cosplayers get a bad rap! Clean up your crap! If the trashcan is full then find another one!

[Black~Rose]

@ Black Rose- We should totally hang! Have a cosplay shoot with Aerith... and Undertaker? xD

XD We should! But it will be a while before I can cosplay Aerith again because I cut my bangs ><

[dark4ever]

@ Iruka - No... I'll be in Corvallis for the fall festival... I hope. Maybe I can visit you or something. I can do my Organization XIII OC and we can be awesome together >D

@ Black Rose- Then we should just chill xD

[IrukaSensei]

Hrrmmmm, well let me see what I can work out. LOL, cause I'd like to hang out and do a shoot before you move. Guessing you are stuck to Public transit as well? (Should we take this to PM? )

[Washougal_Otaku]

Another annoying thing is LITTERERS. Just because you're in the park doesn't mean you own it! This is one of the reasons Cosplayers get a bad rap! Clean up your crap! If the trashcan is full then find another one!

That's actually something that was addressed at the Rant n' Rave panel at the end of the con.  I told the facilities Liaison that I'd give him the number of the woman who schedules events at the park so that we could better prepare for the massive amount of garbage next time.

[Wrath-Chan19]

For me it's people who come and are super loud and rude and I doubt they really like anime. I know one of them, lets just say the few times I was around her she saw a man cross dressing and yelled, "YOU'RE HOT!" from across the park. I had met the guy at Sakuracon so it was super embarrassing for me. I'm not sure about but I know that sometimes guys who crossdress/crossplay don't like people to yell things like that from across the park.
The game is stupid as well, I stop playing that in middle school and when I hear, "I just lost the game" I want to punch the person.
I don't mind 50 Italys/Ciels/Haruhis but it does bug me when people put no effort into the costume. Even if it's bought I don't mind if the person tries to make it look good (because most bought costumes have something wrong with them) or plays the part. Bragging doesn't help either.
The littering also bothered me, I was sitting with my friend outside of the Red Lion on that grassy part and I was surprised about all the garbage. Be polite please and pick up after yourself.

[reppy]

I did get annoyed enough with the cat calls and whistles I was receiving on Monday to just avoid the park all together. XD  Even though I played along, it got the point where I couldn't go 15 feet.

[CharlotteElbourne]

I have some info for about the cosplays bit. (Also, excuse me if I have mispelled words, I have a wrist wrap on cause I sprained my wrist =.= )

I find it HIGHLY annoying when you are cosplaying something, and then you see another cosplayer who is the exact same character as you... you wave and smile cause you see another you....

And they glare and proceed to ignore you.

I mean seriously, wtf? Why can't people be nice to others? My friends and I met our doubles, and their doubles seemed to glare and sort of be arrogant and ignore my friends when they smiled? I mean really? I saw another me and we both squeed cause we found our doubles! ^^

Please at least smile and be considerate, not stuck up snobs cause you think you are so much better than your double... It's childish and gets old very fast.

[CharlotteElbourne]

There have been a few creepy people at conventions. One actually tried to kiss me out of the blue! X_X Even if you are joking about it you need to ask before you randomly grab someone and move your face too close X_X Besides that I was spoken for at that time so it wouldnt have been good!

Cheek kiss or lip kiss? (It probably doesn't matter, but at least on the cheek there's maybe some excuse as it could be considered a greeting, lol)

Lip XP It was a Vincent Cosplayer When I first cosplayed Lucrecia in 2009

I Think I know this cosplayer you speak of >->; I got pinned down by a vincent in 2009 and he tried to french kiss me when I was cosplaying Zidane...

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1039364641456.5368.1745730076&l=ede124dabc&type=1 In the pictures there is pictures of a turk vincent and a red cloaked vincent. The turk was my friend and the other one was the creepy vincent.

Oh god I know the creeper vincent! *pours bleach in eyes* @.@ I'm so sorry he acted that way!! and I don't like him either ._.

[Black~Rose]

There have been a few creepy people at conventions. One actually tried to kiss me out of the blue! X_X Even if you are joking about it you need to ask before you randomly grab someone and move your face too close X_X Besides that I was spoken for at that time so it wouldnt have been good!

Cheek kiss or lip kiss? (It probably doesn't matter, but at least on the cheek there's maybe some excuse as it could be considered a greeting, lol)

Lip XP It was a Vincent Cosplayer When I first cosplayed Lucrecia in 2009

I Think I know this cosplayer you speak of >->; I got pinned down by a vincent in 2009 and he tried to french kiss me when I was cosplaying Zidane...

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1039364641456.5368.1745730076&l=ede124dabc&type=1 In the pictures there is pictures of a turk vincent and a red cloaked vincent. The turk was my friend and the other one was the creepy vincent.

Oh god I know the creeper vincent! *pours bleach in eyes* @.@ I'm so sorry he acted that way!! and I don't like him either ._.

Yeah >< I just generally will make sure I avoid said person if I ever see them again.

[kit2kit]

I have some info for about the cosplays bit. (Also, excuse me if I have mispelled words, I have a wrist wrap on cause I sprained my wrist =.= )

I find it HIGHLY annoying when you are cosplaying something, and then you see another cosplayer who is the exact same character as you... you wave and smile cause you see another you....

And they glare and proceed to ignore you.

I mean seriously, wtf? Why can't people be nice to others? My friends and I met our doubles, and their doubles seemed to glare and sort of be arrogant and ignore my friends when they smiled? I mean really? I saw another me and we both squeed cause we found our doubles! ^^

Please at least smile and be considerate, not stuck up snobs cause you think you are so much better than your double... It's childish and gets old very fast.

^this

[Wrath-Chan19]

I have some info for about the cosplays bit. (Also, excuse me if I have mispelled words, I have a wrist wrap on cause I sprained my wrist =.= )

I find it HIGHLY annoying when you are cosplaying something, and then you see another cosplayer who is the exact same character as you... you wave and smile cause you see another you....

And they glare and proceed to ignore you.

I mean seriously, wtf? Why can't people be nice to others? My friends and I met our doubles, and their doubles seemed to glare and sort of be arrogant and ignore my friends when they smiled? I mean really? I saw another me and we both squeed cause we found our doubles! ^^

Please at least smile and be considerate, not stuck up snobs cause you think you are so much better than your double... It's childish and gets old very fast.

^this

^ Second ^

[reppy]

Is this sort of one of those, "OMG! YOU'RE WEARING THE SAME OUTFIT AS ME?" snooty type moments? XD

[Onchan]

I would have to say 1 and 3. The game...is done. So can it!!!
I understand that people like certain mainstream characters and I respect that but you should know that there are going to be millions of you walking around already and you probably won't be appreciated as much. I like to be creative and unique ^_^

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

Also I'm a guy who happens to be engaged. I really don't appreciate when people flirt with me on a serious level. Guys and girls....I have to know you and I have to know you are messing around and don't mean any harm. It just freaks me out in general x.x

*end rant*

[Black~Rose]

I would have to say 1 and 3. The game...is done. So can it!!!
I understand that people like certain mainstream characters and I respect that but you should know that there are going to be millions of you walking around already and you probably won't be appreciated as much. I like to be creative and unique ^_^

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

Also I'm a guy who happens to be engaged. I really don't appreciate when people flirt with me on a serious level. Guys and girls....I have to know you and I have to know you are messing around and don't mean any harm. It just freaks me out in general x.x

*end rant*

I agree. It saddens me to see a cosplay that looks like there was no effort put in, especially when I love the character. Its even more sad when its just the hair! If all you had to do was straighten your hair you would do it right? I can understand if it looks like the person tried with the hair but just couldn't do it but when I see that someone didn't try at all it just irks me.

I also agree with the flirting. Find out if they are single first and dont be too serious about it.

[Wrath-Chan19]

Nobody has ever tried to flirt with me (it's mostly people being creepers on me), but I think most people should flirt at cons, unless you're good friends or if it's a Fanservice photoshoot (even then you should check)

[Rofflz]

+First off, I HATED all the trash in the park. On Day 1 the grass was clean and everything was nice and neat. By Day 2 things were trashed and ugly. It was annoying, and I realize that the trashcans were full and all, but that doesn't mean you can just leave your trash under the tree where you were eating. >:C

+Secondly; On Day 2 I was Sailor Saturn. Lots of people were taking my picture, but at one point a man asked for my picture and the cosplayer next to me was like "Who me?" And the man was like "No! Her."
I was confused as to why he didn't want the other guys picture.
It really made me feel bad because the cosplayer walked away like he was going to cry and I really wanted to go and take his picture but I didn't have access to my phone's camera at the time.

-So basically what I hate is when 'photographers' don't think of a person's feelings before rejecting him from a photo.
I was very proud when one girl refused a picture unless her friend could be in it to. I hate people that get rejected from photos. I mean, you don't know how hard someone's worked on a cosplay, so you can't just pay them no attention.

If I had a camera I would take pictures of everyone at cons, but sadly I don't have a camera DX

+Another thing that bothers me is 'the Game'
I heard about it my first con, and I was like, oh that's cool.
Second con. It was getting on my nerves.
And after my second con I started hearing people at school saying it, like, 'cool' kids. XP So effin' annoying.
My third con, KumoriCon'11. So ****** annoyed I found myself saying "Nobody cares." Everytime somebody said "I just lost the Game!"

+AND- I hate people that think their cosplay is superior to others just because they made it themselves.
I mean, I handmake all my cosplays unless it's easily 'closet cosplayed'
I don't flaunt my stuff like my **** don't stink.
I mean, at a D.Gray-Man gathering at TaiyouCon'11, me and my Lenalee were ditched by this Lavi chick because she didn't like our cosplays. She was like "I made this myself." And I had made my Allen cosplay myself too, and she was totally irritated because we weren't oo-ing and ah-ing over her craftsmenship.
Sure her cosplay was amazing, but it was so annoying to hear her gloating. >.<

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[Onchan]

Nobody has ever tried to flirt with me (it's mostly people being creepers on me), but I think most people should flirt at cons, unless you're good friends or if it's a Fanservice photoshoot (even then you should check)

I'm not all high and mighty about myself but a lot of the guys/girls flirt with me at con. And yes people should always check! Ack >___<

[Relterra]

I would have to say 1 and 3. The game...is done. So can it!!!
I understand that people like certain mainstream characters and I respect that but you should know that there are going to be millions of you walking around already and you probably won't be appreciated as much. I like to be creative and unique ^_^

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

Also I'm a guy who happens to be engaged. I really don't appreciate when people flirt with me on a serious level. Guys and girls....I have to know you and I have to know you are messing around and don't mean any harm. It just freaks me out in general x.x

*end rant*

I agree. It saddens me to see a cosplay that looks like there was no effort put in, especially when I love the character. Its even more sad when its just the hair! If all you had to do was straighten your hair you would do it right? I can understand if it looks like the person tried with the hair but just couldn't do it but when I see that someone didn't try at all it just irks me.

I also agree with the flirting. Find out if they are single first and dont be too serious about it.

I am guilty of the not having one of my costumes done on time and wearing it to con(It was my Amaimon cosplay). I just mainly wanted to wear the wig since it was my first time dying and styling a wig like that and i was really happy with it. I don't normally do that and to be honest i didn't think anyone would recognize the character. ^^' I guess i shouldn't have done so and i just should have worn my Princess Yue or Simca outfit again. So i am very sorry if i may have been one of those people you are talking about. I am working on getting it complete now though.

[Wrath-Chan19]

I think there's nothing wrong with wearing something incomplete at con. My America costume is practically a closet costume, the only thing I bought for that costume was the jacket. As long as it's not half way sewn on I think it's fine. You should do it because it's fun. My friend wore outfits that were pieced together day of for most of the con it seemed like

[Tsukinya]

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Wrath-chan.  Who cares if someone's cosplay is poorly done or not complete, so long as people are having fun with it?  As long as they don't try to boast about the awesome costume they threw together, I see no problem with it.  For all you know, a person's poorly-assembled costume may be what they had the *skill* to put together or what they could afford.  Everyone takes cosplaying too seriously sometimes.  Just relax and enjoy the opportunity to wear wacky clothing and to style your hair in an impractical fashion

[superjaz]

+Secondly; On Day 2 I was Sailor Saturn. Lots of people were taking my picture, but at one point a man asked for my picture and the cosplayer next to me was like "Who me?" And the man was like "No! Her."
I was confused as to why he didn't want the other guys picture.
It really made me feel bad because the cosplayer walked away like he was going to cry and I really wanted to go and take his picture but I didn't have access to my phone's camera at the time.

-So basically what I hate is when 'photographers' don't think of a person's feelings before rejecting him from a photo.
I was very proud when one girl refused a picture unless her friend could be in it to. I hate people that get rejected from photos. I mean, you don't know how hard someone's worked on a cosplay, so you can't just pay them no attention.

If I had a camera I would take pictures of everyone at cons, but sadly I don't have a camera DX

yes so much!

I would also say very broad here, people being mean, or rude. I mean your at an anime convention!  This is a place where people understand each other, why put some of the few people who share your hobby down?

When people make their own costume, it really depends on the attitude, proud is fine, or like the Japanese modesty is the way to go, like "I made it, it turned out okay, yours is great" or being honenst "I made this, what do you think is it okay?" That way your not fishing for compliments so much as reassurance.   Which I can understand if someone is insecure about how it turned out, not just to brag.

Does that make sense?  I can sew some costumes, some times I buy parts. I also can't reach the high shelf in the kitchen,  some one who can isn't better then me, also doesn't make a home made costume better then bought, we all have skills and talents we excel at and those we don't

[Onchan]

I would have to say 1 and 3. The game...is done. So can it!!!
I understand that people like certain mainstream characters and I respect that but you should know that there are going to be millions of you walking around already and you probably won't be appreciated as much. I like to be creative and unique ^_^

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

Also I'm a guy who happens to be engaged. I really don't appreciate when people flirt with me on a serious level. Guys and girls....I have to know you and I have to know you are messing around and don't mean any harm. It just freaks me out in general x.x

*end rant*

I agree. It saddens me to see a cosplay that looks like there was no effort put in, especially when I love the character. Its even more sad when its just the hair! If all you had to do was straighten your hair you would do it right? I can understand if it looks like the person tried with the hair but just couldn't do it but when I see that someone didn't try at all it just irks me.

I also agree with the flirting. Find out if they are single first and dont be too serious about it.

I am guilty of the not having one of my costumes done on time and wearing it to con(It was my Amaimon cosplay). I just mainly wanted to wear the wig since it was my first time dying and styling a wig like that and i was really happy with it. I don't normally do that and to be honest i didn't think anyone would recognize the character. ^^' I guess i shouldn't have done so and i just should have worn my Princess Yue or Simca outfit again. So i am very sorry if i may have been one of those people you are talking about. I am working on getting it complete now though.

I wouldn't know if you were one of the people but it's alright
Also if people are wanting to do a cosplay but it's not completely done then it's not really considered a cosplay.
Say I want to do something like Cloud from FF7. You never see that cloud is missing something he generally wears. Like shoes or pants. Just saying :/

One more thing, people who aren't good at making cosplays it's fine. It just takes practice...

[Rofflz]

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Wrath-chan.  Who cares if someone's cosplay is poorly done or not complete, so long as people are having fun with it?  As long as they don't try to boast about the awesome costume they threw together, I see no problem with it.  For all you know, a person's poorly-assembled costume may be what they had the *skill* to put together or what they could afford.  Everyone takes cosplaying too seriously sometimes.  Just relax and enjoy the opportunity to wear wacky clothing and to style your hair in an impractical fashion

I've had people give me crap for my first Len Kagamine cosplay because I basically just altered clothes and used left over material from previous cosplays. I didn't have his belt and the arm things are too long and the tie isn't shaped exactly like his. And I just bleached my hair instead of having a wig.
I mean, I wasn't going for perfect, it was just to take pictures with my friend Casey who cosplays Rin. And I know it isn't the best, but it really hurts my feelings when people point it out. Which my friend Casey kept doing >:C I don't mean to be mean, but her Rin wasn't perfect either so she really couldn't be so high and mighty.
*sigh*
I just wish people would stop being so judmental about cosplays and the cosplayers and just be happy they can be with people that enjoy the same things that they do.

[Wrath-Chan19]

It is really rude when people point those things out. I mean I joked around with my friend she had left her binding stuff at home for her Ace costume on day 0 by saying "Nice boobs" to her. But when you are mean about it's just no fun. I mean some of my friends aren't completely accurate with their costumes or some parts are done quickly and it bothers me like crazy but I keep my mouth shut because they're happy with their costumes which is what matters.

[Black~Rose]

I am guilty of the not having one of my costumes done on time and wearing it to con(It was my Amaimon cosplay). I just mainly wanted to wear the wig since it was my first time dying and styling a wig like that and i was really happy with it. I don't normally do that and to be honest i didn't think anyone would recognize the character. ^^' I guess i shouldn't have done so and i just should have worn my Princess Yue or Simca outfit again. So i am very sorry if i may have been one of those people you are talking about. I am working on getting it complete now though.

I can understand and respect that though. Its mainly just the not trying at all that irks me, I hope to see the finished product next con =]

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Wrath-chan.  Who cares if someone's cosplay is poorly done or not complete, so long as people are having fun with it?  As long as they don't try to boast about the awesome costume they threw together, I see no problem with it.  For all you know, a person's poorly-assembled costume may be what they had the *skill* to put together or what they could afford.  Everyone takes cosplaying too seriously sometimes.  Just relax and enjoy the opportunity to wear wacky clothing and to style your hair in an impractical fashion

I've had people give me crap for my first Len Kagamine cosplay because I basically just altered clothes and used left over material from previous cosplays. I didn't have his belt and the arm things are too long and the tie isn't shaped exactly like his. And I just bleached my hair instead of having a wig.
I mean, I wasn't going for perfect, it was just to take pictures with my friend Casey who cosplays Rin. And I know it isn't the best, but it really hurts my feelings when people point it out. Which my friend Casey kept doing >:C I don't mean to be mean, but her Rin wasn't perfect either so she really couldn't be so high and mighty.
*sigh*
I just wish people would stop being so judmental about cosplays and the cosplayers and just be happy they can be with people that enjoy the same things that they do.

It makes me sad to see a poorly done character that I really love but due to the exact reasons you just stated I do keep my mouth shut and I am friendly to everyone. I just keep in mind that they loved the character enough to cosplay it no matter how good their skills are (first cosplays for example mine was a disaster) Its mainly hair that irks me. If someone uses their real hair and its not a difficult styling task it irks me that they did not even attempt to do it.. But again I never say anything to them directly and if I do its a suggestion on good styling products or tutorials that are great for what they are shooting for I don't ever wanna be mean. I would hope that others would keep their rude comments to themselves too its just not ok to intentionally put someone down.

[Relterra]

I would have to say 1 and 3. The game...is done. So can it!!!
I understand that people like certain mainstream characters and I respect that but you should know that there are going to be millions of you walking around already and you probably won't be appreciated as much. I like to be creative and unique ^_^

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

Also I'm a guy who happens to be engaged. I really don't appreciate when people flirt with me on a serious level. Guys and girls....I have to know you and I have to know you are messing around and don't mean any harm. It just freaks me out in general x.x

*end rant*

I agree. It saddens me to see a cosplay that looks like there was no effort put in, especially when I love the character. Its even more sad when its just the hair! If all you had to do was straighten your hair you would do it right? I can understand if it looks like the person tried with the hair but just couldn't do it but when I see that someone didn't try at all it just irks me.

I also agree with the flirting. Find out if they are single first and dont be too serious about it.

I am guilty of the not having one of my costumes done on time and wearing it to con(It was my Amaimon cosplay). I just mainly wanted to wear the wig since it was my first time dying and styling a wig like that and i was really happy with it. I don't normally do that and to be honest i didn't think anyone would recognize the character. ^^' I guess i shouldn't have done so and i just should have worn my Princess Yue or Simca outfit again. So i am very sorry if i may have been one of those people you are talking about. I am working on getting it complete now though.

I wouldn't know if you were one of the people but it's alright
Also if people are wanting to do a cosplay but it's not completely done then it's not really considered a cosplay.
Say I want to do something like Cloud from FF7. You never see that cloud is missing something he generally wears. Like shoes or pants. Just saying :/

One more thing, people who aren't good at making cosplays it's fine. It just takes practice...

Isn't cosplay about having fun? Not how accurate you're supposed to be? ^_^ We are a bunch of people dressed up running around and having fun. Now mind you if you go into a competition you definitely want to bring your all. But for just walking around and hanging out with friends and getting to know people does it really matter? Yes, those who put time, effort and money will stand out among the rest. And that gives others something to work towards. I miss how the cons used to be. Can't we all just get along and give each other helpful advise and encourage each other?

[@random]

It is really rude when people point those things out. I mean I joked around with my friend she had left her binding stuff at home for her Ace costume on day 0 by saying "Nice boobs" to her. But when you are mean about it's just no fun. I mean some of my friends aren't completely accurate with their costumes or some parts are done quickly and it bothers me like crazy but I keep my mouth shut because they're happy with their costumes which is what matters.

I think you nailed it - if even friends would rather turn constructive criticism into a joke, then it doesn't really make sense for strangers to be harsh about it without even being asked. A friend has the right to (and a real friend should) tell you when you look goofy... but for a stranger to assume the same rights as a friend to joke or criticize is a little galling.

[GregAtlas]

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

Also I'm a guy who happens to be engaged. I really don't appreciate when people flirt with me on a serious level. Guys and girls....I have to know you and I have to know you are messing around and don't mean any harm. It just freaks me out in general x.x

Okay. First off, I don't think there was a single professional cosplayer there. I believe the majority of people do it for fun and hey, sometimes it is last minute. I believe it was Leonardo da Vinci who said "Art is never finished, only abandoned." I'll admit that mine was last minute since I took less than 3 days on it but that's because I only found out I would be going 4 days before the con, yet I still got complements and when some people found out how little time was spent on it they were usually with big eyes and said "wow!" On the other hand, I don't take much pride in it since it since it wasn't finished and my hair was horrible, and I certainly don't brag about it. I am still happy I was able to go and that people recognized me as the character even through the flaws. Now that said... I do believe effort should be put into a cosplay, but we have no right to judge how much effort someone else did in my opinion.

As for the flirting part, I am seriously curious, how do you find out if they are single first? Do you just walk up to people and ask if they're single and then start flirting? I always thought most people use a little mild flirting was part of finding out in the first place. Again, I am actually serious about this because Until recently I have never really been single (outside of high school) and have no clue on how to meet people, let alone the other typical courtship rituals. (please feel free to keep it to private messages if you wish or deem necessary since this will probably take the post off topic even more than it already is)

Not that I'm all for flirting with every person I meet, and I probably have a different definition of flirting than most... >.>

Oh, and I personally believe people should be friends first before serious dating, but I hardly know anything on the subject...

[Washougal_Otaku]

I myself have worn costumes that weren't quite right.  Perhaps the best example would have been my Ranma costume.  During '08, I had to find a way to have the pants replaced, because they got damaged rather quickly and I didn't know too many people who could sew them back up at the time.  I just grabbed a pair of black sweat pants, and nobody seemed to notice, or care enough to point it out to me.  So long as they aren't wearing a single box with the word "GUNDAM" written on it with a red crayon, I don't usually make a fuss about things.

Something that I find annoying is when people are hardcore fanatics over one series, and expect you to have the same level of knowledge of that show, just because you're at an anime convention, too.  (Not everyone there likes Pokemon, people... )

I believe it was Leonardo da Vinci who said "Art is never finished, only abandoned."

Off topic, but yes, that was da Vinci who said that.

[reppy]

Wait, has anyone mentioned body odor?  XD

Or did I already?

I don't remember.

Anyways, it stinks.  Literally.

Obviously, in some cases, there's nothing you can do.  Even when you put on deodorant in the morning.

I carried around a little bottle of coconut lime body mist that I would spray on regularly to keep myself fresh and girly~ smelling.

But really, I'm talking about the people that haven't even felt a bar of soap in their hands in a week and a half.  XD

Pleeeeeaase.... don't be the stereotype.  ;___;  Plus, I kind of don't like smelling you in line.  

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ Now that you mention it, I'm surprised that this wasn't on the voting poll thing...

[GregAtlas]

^ lol, I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned either. I'm pleased to report that I don't remember smelling anyone.

I was really worried about that myself with how hot it was, but thank goodness at the end of the day when I double checked it wasn't very bad at all. Day 2 I made sure it wasn't a problem by making sure to take another swipe later in the day. By the way, that Tom's of Maine brand really does last suprisingly quite a long time despite being all natural and the "fresh apricot" flavor scent smells so good you could almost eat it. xp

As for the comment about da Vinci being off topic: I believe cosplay is an art form, so I believe it still applies.

[reppy]

Heh heh heh.  Yeah, actually I didn't notice too much in terms of horrendous body odor.  Someone mentioned that the Hilton has pretty good ventilation, so maybe that helped? XD

[dark4ever]

The one thing that bothers me about cosplays are the shoes... I saw a girl who should have been wearing black flats or black heels or a sort of "nice" black shoe, and she was wearing white sneakers... that just ticks me the littlest. I mean, some shoes are going to be really effing hard to find (case in point, Undertaker boots. Those shoes are impossible to find. So I wore boots with a couple belts on them), but sneakers/converse really shouldn't be worn unless the character has them. You can get black flats for $10 pretty much anyway. Plus, you should own a pair anyways xD They're a total staple with clothes

[Onchan]

I would have to say 1 and 3. The game...is done. So can it!!!
I understand that people like certain mainstream characters and I respect that but you should know that there are going to be millions of you walking around already and you probably won't be appreciated as much. I like to be creative and unique ^_^

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

Also I'm a guy who happens to be engaged. I really don't appreciate when people flirt with me on a serious level. Guys and girls....I have to know you and I have to know you are messing around and don't mean any harm. It just freaks me out in general x.x

*end rant*

I agree. It saddens me to see a cosplay that looks like there was no effort put in, especially when I love the character. Its even more sad when its just the hair! If all you had to do was straighten your hair you would do it right? I can understand if it looks like the person tried with the hair but just couldn't do it but when I see that someone didn't try at all it just irks me.

I also agree with the flirting. Find out if they are single first and dont be too serious about it.

I am guilty of the not having one of my costumes done on time and wearing it to con(It was my Amaimon cosplay). I just mainly wanted to wear the wig since it was my first time dying and styling a wig like that and i was really happy with it. I don't normally do that and to be honest i didn't think anyone would recognize the character. ^^' I guess i shouldn't have done so and i just should have worn my Princess Yue or Simca outfit again. So i am very sorry if i may have been one of those people you are talking about. I am working on getting it complete now though.

I wouldn't know if you were one of the people but it's alright
Also if people are wanting to do a cosplay but it's not completely done then it's not really considered a cosplay.
Say I want to do something like Cloud from FF7. You never see that cloud is missing something he generally wears. Like shoes or pants. Just saying :/

One more thing, people who aren't good at making cosplays it's fine. It just takes practice...

Isn't cosplay about having fun? Not how accurate you're supposed to be? ^_^ We are a bunch of people dressed up running around and having fun. Now mind you if you go into a competition you definitely want to bring your all. But for just walking around and hanging out with friends and getting to know people does it really matter? Yes, those who put time, effort and money will stand out among the rest. And that gives others something to work towards. I miss how the cons used to be. Can't we all just get along and give each other helpful advise and encourage each other?

For some including myself when people cosplay as something and you look up to that character but the cosplay isn't finished it hurts :/
I saw a Packy cosplay from Cat **** One this year and he did a really great job! I'm glad he did too because I do admire that character and I would think he did a great job because he enjoys that character and looks up to them just as much as I do.
Now I'm not saying these cosplays have to be perfect (I do understand that everyone isn't amazing at crafting them) but please have the decency to have all the props/clothing for them. Now I know I sound like a big fat meanie jerk but people should at least have the common courtesy to do a decent job and to finish their cosplays if they are going to represent these cool characters

[Wrath-Chan19]

The one thing that bothers me about cosplays are the shoes... I saw a girl who should have been wearing black flats or black heels or a sort of "nice" black shoe, and she was wearing white sneakers... that just ticks me the littlest. I mean, some shoes are going to be really effing hard to find (case in point, Undertaker boots. Those shoes are impossible to find. So I wore boots with a couple belts on them), but sneakers/converse really shouldn't be worn unless the character has them. You can get black flats for $10 pretty much anyway. Plus, you should own a pair anyways xD They're a total staple with clothes

^ this is so true
I mean I have found Sora cosplayers from Kingdom Hearts with Sneakers. I understand his shoes are way to complicated and he would wear sneakers

[dark4ever]

Yeah! I saw a Namine wearing black flip flops >.> Kinda irked me, though her dress was well made and she looked just like her otherwise

[superjaz]

The one thing that bothers me about cosplays are the shoes... I saw a girl who should have been wearing black flats or black heels or a sort of "nice" black shoe, and she was wearing white sneakers... that just ticks me the littlest. I mean, some shoes are going to be really effing hard to find (case in point, Undertaker boots. Those shoes are impossible to find. So I wore boots with a couple belts on them), but sneakers/converse really shouldn't be worn unless the character has them. You can get black flats for $10 pretty much anyway. Plus, you should own a pair anyways xD They're a total staple with clothes

^ this is so true
I mean I have found Sora cosplayers from Kingdom Hearts with Sneakers. I understand his shoes are way to complicated and he would wear sneakers

Only thing about this is that at a convention you can end up doing a LOT of walking, I can understand not wanting to wreck your feet the first day.

Like my hubbys urahara geta, if we were going to be going to be doing a bit more walking like between the 2 hotels then he wore sandles (concrete bad for geta)

[Black~Rose]

The one thing that bothers me about cosplays are the shoes... I saw a girl who should have been wearing black flats or black heels or a sort of "nice" black shoe, and she was wearing white sneakers... that just ticks me the littlest. I mean, some shoes are going to be really effing hard to find (case in point, Undertaker boots. Those shoes are impossible to find. So I wore boots with a couple belts on them), but sneakers/converse really shouldn't be worn unless the character has them. You can get black flats for $10 pretty much anyway. Plus, you should own a pair anyways xD They're a total staple with clothes

^ this is so true
I mean I have found Sora cosplayers from Kingdom Hearts with Sneakers. I understand his shoes are way to complicated and he would wear sneakers

Only thing about this is that at a convention you can end up doing a LOT of walking, I can understand not wanting to wreck your feet the first day.

Like my hubbys urahara geta, if we were going to be going to be doing a bit more walking like between the 2 hotels then he wore sandles (concrete bad for geta)

Maybe carry extra shoes with you so that you can walk comfy but for pictures you can put on the correct shoes? just a suggestion ^^ I can understand the uncomfortable walk too. Heels as lucrecia X_X ugg

[dark4ever]

But sandals look like Geta. I totally understand that

[Relterra]

I would have to say 1 and 3. The game...is done. So can it!!!
I understand that people like certain mainstream characters and I respect that but you should know that there are going to be millions of you walking around already and you probably won't be appreciated as much. I like to be creative and unique ^_^

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

Also I'm a guy who happens to be engaged. I really don't appreciate when people flirt with me on a serious level. Guys and girls....I have to know you and I have to know you are messing around and don't mean any harm. It just freaks me out in general x.x

*end rant*

I agree. It saddens me to see a cosplay that looks like there was no effort put in, especially when I love the character. Its even more sad when its just the hair! If all you had to do was straighten your hair you would do it right? I can understand if it looks like the person tried with the hair but just couldn't do it but when I see that someone didn't try at all it just irks me.

I also agree with the flirting. Find out if they are single first and dont be too serious about it.

I am guilty of the not having one of my costumes done on time and wearing it to con(It was my Amaimon cosplay). I just mainly wanted to wear the wig since it was my first time dying and styling a wig like that and i was really happy with it. I don't normally do that and to be honest i didn't think anyone would recognize the character. ^^' I guess i shouldn't have done so and i just should have worn my Princess Yue or Simca outfit again. So i am very sorry if i may have been one of those people you are talking about. I am working on getting it complete now though.

I wouldn't know if you were one of the people but it's alright
Also if people are wanting to do a cosplay but it's not completely done then it's not really considered a cosplay.
Say I want to do something like Cloud from FF7. You never see that cloud is missing something he generally wears. Like shoes or pants. Just saying :/

One more thing, people who aren't good at making cosplays it's fine. It just takes practice...

Isn't cosplay about having fun? Not how accurate you're supposed to be? ^_^ We are a bunch of people dressed up running around and having fun. Now mind you if you go into a competition you definitely want to bring your all. But for just walking around and hanging out with friends and getting to know people does it really matter? Yes, those who put time, effort and money will stand out among the rest. And that gives others something to work towards. I miss how the cons used to be. Can't we all just get along and give each other helpful advise and encourage each other?

For some including myself when people cosplay as something and you look up to that character but the cosplay isn't finished it hurts :/
I saw a Packy cosplay from Cat **** One this year and he did a really great job! I'm glad he did too because I do admire that character and I would think he did a great job because he enjoys that character and looks up to them just as much as I do.
Now I'm not saying these cosplays have to be perfect (I do understand that everyone isn't amazing at crafting them) but please have the decency to have all the props/clothing for them. Now I know I sound like a big fat meanie jerk but people should at least have the common courtesy to do a decent job and to finish their cosplays if they are going to represent these cool characters

No i don't think you are a meanie jerk at all. It's your honest opinion and i respect that.
And i apologize because that is what i thought you meant in that if it wasn't perfect than it wasn't considered cosplay. I'm sorry i misunderstood. I agree that you should at least try and do a good job on representing the character you are cosplaying as and that you should put as much effort as possible into it but i can also understand those on a budget or who do not have the skills to make an amazing cosplay. Speaking of which i think i remember seeing you at Sakura Con and i wanted to say awesome costumes(if that is you in your profile pic). They looked really comfy too.

[GregAtlas]

One of the most common things I hear on youtube about conventions is to wear comfortable shoes. It is nice to have the cosplay accurate if anything for pictures though.

I myself have a different problem... I don't know how to make my own shoes and since I have to go to the same place the Portland Trailblazers go to get their shoes.... yeah, no $10-$20 shoes for me... I'm lucky if I can get them for under $100. I used to joke that if I ever wanted roller skates I'd have to basically stick my feet in a couple of cow's butts. (which is not happening any time soon or hopefully ever ew.) That being said, I do have a pair of gothic boots that are 2-3 sizes too small and one of the liners that keeps the leg part up tends to cut into my skin for some reason... Quite uncomfortable but I love the look and couldn't resist since they were on sale (only worn on special occasions).

Woot, I just now realized I can be considered a plus sized cosplayer.

[Onchan]

I would have to say 1 and 3. The game...is done. So can it!!!
I understand that people like certain mainstream characters and I respect that but you should know that there are going to be millions of you walking around already and you probably won't be appreciated as much. I like to be creative and unique ^_^

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

Also I'm a guy who happens to be engaged. I really don't appreciate when people flirt with me on a serious level. Guys and girls....I have to know you and I have to know you are messing around and don't mean any harm. It just freaks me out in general x.x

*end rant*

I agree. It saddens me to see a cosplay that looks like there was no effort put in, especially when I love the character. Its even more sad when its just the hair! If all you had to do was straighten your hair you would do it right? I can understand if it looks like the person tried with the hair but just couldn't do it but when I see that someone didn't try at all it just irks me.

I also agree with the flirting. Find out if they are single first and dont be too serious about it.

I am guilty of the not having one of my costumes done on time and wearing it to con(It was my Amaimon cosplay). I just mainly wanted to wear the wig since it was my first time dying and styling a wig like that and i was really happy with it. I don't normally do that and to be honest i didn't think anyone would recognize the character. ^^' I guess i shouldn't have done so and i just should have worn my Princess Yue or Simca outfit again. So i am very sorry if i may have been one of those people you are talking about. I am working on getting it complete now though.

I wouldn't know if you were one of the people but it's alright
Also if people are wanting to do a cosplay but it's not completely done then it's not really considered a cosplay.
Say I want to do something like Cloud from FF7. You never see that cloud is missing something he generally wears. Like shoes or pants. Just saying :/

One more thing, people who aren't good at making cosplays it's fine. It just takes practice...

Isn't cosplay about having fun? Not how accurate you're supposed to be? ^_^ We are a bunch of people dressed up running around and having fun. Now mind you if you go into a competition you definitely want to bring your all. But for just walking around and hanging out with friends and getting to know people does it really matter? Yes, those who put time, effort and money will stand out among the rest. And that gives others something to work towards. I miss how the cons used to be. Can't we all just get along and give each other helpful advise and encourage each other?

For some including myself when people cosplay as something and you look up to that character but the cosplay isn't finished it hurts :/
I saw a Packy cosplay from Cat **** One this year and he did a really great job! I'm glad he did too because I do admire that character and I would think he did a great job because he enjoys that character and looks up to them just as much as I do.
Now I'm not saying these cosplays have to be perfect (I do understand that everyone isn't amazing at crafting them) but please have the decency to have all the props/clothing for them. Now I know I sound like a big fat meanie jerk but people should at least have the common courtesy to do a decent job and to finish their cosplays if they are going to represent these cool characters

No i don't think you are a meanie jerk at all. It's your honest opinion and i respect that.
And i apologize because that is what i thought you meant in that if it wasn't perfect than it wasn't considered cosplay. I'm sorry i misunderstood. I agree that you should at least try and do a good job on representing the character you are cosplaying as and that you should put as much effort as possible into it but i can also understand those on a budget or who do not have the skills to make an amazing cosplay. Speaking of which i think i remember seeing you at Sakura Con and i wanted to say awesome costumes(if that is you in your profile pic). They looked really comfy too.

Haha thank you for understanding! I am glad you don't think I'm mean cause I'm actually not xD
And yes that's me and my fiancée in my picture! We might take the Ice Climbers again next year but I'm in 2 cosplay groups with my friends so I'm not sure! (Powerpuff Girls group cosplay and Ninja Nonsense group cosplay)

[CloudStrife32]

I've read almost all of the posts in here, and most of the things that annoy me at con, were already said.
But one that annoys me a lot, that I don't think was said, is the whole Caramelldansen thing.
It was cute, the first time I saw it, then it just got annoying...

[Washougal_Otaku]

Yeah, it is pretty annoying, not just because it's overly popular, but because nobody does the whole dance.  The dance is more than just the hand-flapping-hip-shaking motions.  Also, the original song is a little slower, making the singing sound like a human being instead of a computer program.  And, it's Swedish; why is a Swedish song so popular at Japanese anime conventions...?  I don't get it...

[Black~Rose]

Yeah, it is pretty annoying, not just because it's overly popular, but because nobody does the whole dance.  The dance is more than just the hand-flapping-hip-shaking motions.  Also, the original song is a little slower, making the singing sound like a human being instead of a computer program.  And, it's Swedish; why is a Swedish song so popular at Japanese anime conventions...?  I don't get it...

Well Numa Numa is also popular and its german I think lol. But yes, Carmelldancen has gotten a tad annoying x_X

[bunny_jean]

Numa Numa is Romanian I believe... As for Caramelldansen... I like the song, it never fails to make me smile and be happy, but it was beyond stupid when they played it at the rave on Sunday night and probably more than 50% of the people there were only doing the hand flapping and hip shaking. :/ I'm not saying that people need to know the whole dance, but seriously, you're at a rave, do more dancing than that, make the "official dance" into something else.

[Mog]

I thought the most Annoying thing was probably Chair. That just drove me nuts.

Oh, and on the topic of Free Hugs, I did it... a lot. But I was one of those people who would only hug people who were willing and even if someone made eye contact, I'd just smile and nod to them. I understand if people don't want free hugs~

[GregAtlas]

If my memory serves me correctly it started as just hand flapping and hip shaking.... plus was an animated .gif that started it all then later the "official" music video added some other moves. Oh well, either way it is adorable IMO not to mention good exercise. It does get pretty awkward when only 2 people are doing it though.

Speaking of Caramell Dansen... Has anyone ever seen a cosplay of the 3 girls in the official video? Would anyone even recognise them if they were at a con?

[Washougal_Otaku]

Well Numa Numa is also popular and its german I think lol. But yes, Carmelldancen has gotten a tad annoying x_X

Numa Numa is Romanian I believe...

I'm assuming that you're both referring to Dragostea Din Tei, by O-Zone.  If so, the language is Romanian.  The band members are Moldovan, however.

[superjaz]

I'm assuming that you're both referring to Dragostea Din Tei, by O-Zone.  If so, the language is Romanian.  The band members are Moldovan, however.

They are and it is, my last dentist was half romanian and I ran some of the translation of the lyrics by her.'

Only fair as when we were waiting for my mouth to finish numbing she was asking me plot spoilers from the sookie stackhouse books true blood is based (more loosly every seasom as it seems curse you Allan Ball)

Numa numa I understand being at a anime con because the song has been used in Japan, by those silly smap x smap guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evUOdVj5El0
as far as I can tell, the guy in the white para para master kimura is like the #1 best host at a host club

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evUOdVj5El0

and peep singin is a dude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhMcHWR4-XY&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL0C7742F9B4EE698E

Highjack is over,

[@random]

[lots of quoted text]

Haha thank you for understanding! I am glad you don't think I'm mean cause I'm actually not xD
And yes that's me and my fiancée in my picture! We might take the Ice Climbers again next year but I'm in 2 cosplay groups with my friends so I'm not sure! (Powerpuff Girls group cosplay and Ninja Nonsense group cosplay)

I'm really glad you guys were able to listen to each other and work it out.   But please remember that chats should eventually go to PM per the code of conduct.

[Wrath-Chan19]

I will have to say Caramelldansen can get annoying
But I will admit I joined in at Opening Ceremonies
But I don't burst into it randomly like I used

[Onchan]

[lots of quoted text]

Haha thank you for understanding! I am glad you don't think I'm mean cause I'm actually not xD
And yes that's me and my fiancée in my picture! We might take the Ice Climbers again next year but I'm in 2 cosplay groups with my friends so I'm not sure! (Powerpuff Girls group cosplay and Ninja Nonsense group cosplay)

I'm really glad you guys were able to listen to each other and work it out.   But please remember that chats should eventually go to PM per the code of conduct.

Of course modchan! and thank you for not banning us!

[Black~Rose]

Carmelldancen is still a song I like however it is indeed overplayed as for the dance, I dont blame people for only doing the one move because not everyone takes time to learn the other steps and in a crowded area that one move is probably preferred lol

And now I know that Numa Numa is Romanian. lol

[Bresslol]

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

This is exactly what I meant by cosplay elitism. So the heck what if folks don't have the same skills as you? There's no requirement folks HAVE TO BE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. I've done a terrible House cosplay before (mostly because I'm wayyyyy to fat to be House.) Some people liked it, others didn't. People do come to con just to have fun, you know; not to have the best costume possible. Keep that in mind.

[IrukaSensei]

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

This is exactly what I meant by cosplay elitism. So the heck what if folks don't have the same skills as you? There's no requirement folks HAVE TO BE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. I've done a terrible House cosplay before (mostly because I'm wayyyyy to fat to be House.) Some people liked it, others didn't. People do come to con just to have fun, you know; not to have the best costume possible. Keep that in mind.

Yes but people are allowed to have opinions. I don't like last minute cosplays either, they look like wherry dung, and like the person didn't give a CRAP about the character they were portraying. Cosplay is an art form all of it's own. I know people that are elitists for a reason. You shouldn't come down on them for it. Honestly, if you were going to go listen to music... Would you rather listen to a bunch of people screeching noisily on their instruments, or competent players? That could at least string together a few notes, effectively.

[Black~Rose]

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

This is exactly what I meant by cosplay elitism. So the heck what if folks don't have the same skills as you? There's no requirement folks HAVE TO BE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. I've done a terrible House cosplay before (mostly because I'm wayyyyy to fat to be House.) Some people liked it, others didn't. People do come to con just to have fun, you know; not to have the best costume possible. Keep that in mind.

Yes but people are allowed to have opinions. I don't like last minute cosplays either, they look like wherry dung, and like the person didn't give a CRAP about the character they were portraying. Cosplay is an art form all of it's own. I know people that are elitists for a reason. You shouldn't come down on them for it. Honestly, if you were going to go listen to music... Would you rather listen to a bunch of people screeching noisily on their instruments, or competent players? That could at least string together a few notes, effectively.

You all make very good points. I think wanting to be better or see better cosplays is fine as long as people aren't being mean to other peoples faces. Let them enjoy con too, be proud of your own work, and be friendly. You never know whether or not those cosplayers are first timers or just unskilled and unfunded and who knows? You might decide they are awesome people.

[TomtheFanboy]

I don't think they are all making good points. I think some of them don't want to face the repercussions for being mean.
They want to be able to get away with negativity without being held accountable.
The First Amendment was not put in place for you to hurt people's feelings.

Wheaton's Law.

Also, I enjoy being right about this thread.

[reppy]

I am going to do a last-minute cosplay of a chair that sings Caramelldansen and causes everyone to lose the game. . . 

[@random]

Please keep in mind that speculating about others' motives isn't kosher, per the code of conduct.

If someone wants to be mean, sensitive, elitist, sloppy, or anything else under the sun that others find annoying, they can do so in their own words. (And they can be called out on their own words, too - but only for what they've actually said or inferred themselves.)


_{It's probably extremely obvious anyway, but: This doesn't have anything to do with reppy's post, it just falls under it.}

[Washougal_Otaku]

I am going to do a last-minute cosplay of a chair that sings Caramelldansen and causes everyone to lose the game. . . 

That would be too annoying to be annoyed with; you should do it!

[GregAtlas]

I agree that cosplay eliteism is not a good thing at all, but how about someone who wears a card board box around their chest with a button with an "R" on it and wears clothing that has nothing to do with the character and then tries to join in the pokemon photoshoot claiming to be Jesse from team rocket?

I think that would be one of those awkward moments... especially if they were trolling trying to get in all the photos. Where do you draw the line?

[IrukaSensei]

I have a right to my opinion, just as mug as anyone else. I'm who I am and I can be nothing else but that. I am unashamed and not afraid to be seen as being rude or opinionated. Because that is who I am. Now as for what happened at the like on shoot, I draw the line on something like that. But that's just me.

[hikaru_maxwell]

maybe they were trying to be funny. Maybe they were doing a parody version of Jesse. What someone cosplays is their own business. I'm with Bresslol and Tom on this one. The thing I find most annoying about con (and after con with the on-forum ranting) is the cosplay elitism.  

Saying someone's cosplay isn't really cosplay if they don't have all the props isn't right. Saying someone's cosplay sucks or is annoying to you because they did a closet cosplay or was thrown together three days before or the day of con is also not something I find even remotely cool. I had several cosplays that were made with days and months of work, and I love wearing them, even though some of them aren't that comfortable (and I ended up in white tennies on the second and third days as princess sakura, because my feet hurt so much), but I was pleasantly surprised to find out that my last-minute, almost completely out of the closet, secret cosplay was my most popular, and the one I ended up wearing the most. Parts of it were held up with safety pins, and I got so many surprise glomps, photos, and general compliments for something that I didn't even know I'd be wearing until a week before con.

You really don't know how much effort a person put into their cosplay until you ask them, and assuming someone didn't try when they may have spent months on it, or saying their cosplay sucks after you find out that they pulled it out of their closet, that's just not nice. Some people can make an amazing cosplay in 3 days. some people can spend a year and make something that barely passes. It doesn't matter. If you can look at their cosplay and recognize what they're trying to be, it's a good thing. It's wonderful to see people cosplaying something from a series I like, even if they're only running around in boxers, a tank top, and an Axel wig. I'd snap a pic of that, and caption it "Axel flashing the Org" or something. I've had incredibly incorrect cosplays that were blasphemes to both series thrust upon me at cons, but they were fun to wear. What I hated about it was when people bashed me for wearing them anyway. If I want to be Kakashi in a Lolita dress with Itachi's headband around my thigh like a garter belt, I will! Noone has the right to destroy someone else's self esteem by bashing their cosplay, it's not freedom of speech. It's BULLYING.

[Titus_Love_Doll]

I agree this is the most disrespecful thing ive seen even the princess sakura costume i made for max was made 2 days before con and it was still amazing adn so many people loved it as well.. just becuse you DONT have the best costume in the world or you threw it togeather CON is to be fun and to see old friends and make new ones not people bashing on echother.


I ve done worse cosplay. my 2008 con i wear what ever becuse i didnt have cosplay that fit me becuse i ended up being 5'4" to 5'6 with in the year yeah. so keep on bashing it makes you all who do this look stupid and pitaful the real truth is that you all are hateful people and should be disappointed in yourself.

[Chan_Highwind]

Personally, I always ask if someone is in cosplay or not. After all, I may just not know of the series! And secondly, I'm no seamstress. If they made it, maybe I can get some tips! right? No harm, no foul.

But at the same time, at least for my own shoddy cosplay this year, I was broke. I had been kicked out of two family homes [that where my own family], and jobless for a time before I started to be able to THINK about 'OH CRAP KUMORICON!' what may have been two months before the con. Quite frankly, I was going to do Sailor Uranus all three days, but much to my dispise, my costume didn't fit with out help because I have gained ze fat. Well hell. No job for a time and kicked out of two homes by Kumo; I wouldn't doubt if I gained some stress weight! So yeah, I threw Fem!France together out of my closet, because I've gone to a cosplay thing without a costume, and felt HORRIBLE. I didn't have the 100$ for a new Sailor Uranus costume, and by the time I found out it didn't fit any more, it wouldn't have come anyways.

again, I'm no seamstress. So I sadly have to buy mine.

For what I did with a College student's pay while trying to find an apartment and car and make sure my Kitty-child-Jase was taken care of... I think I did alright. Perfect? HELL NO, but that's my own words for me.

No one knows what people go though, so if you don't like it, just don't say nothin'. Really as easy as that. But if you feel like you HAVE to say something, at least have the guts to tell the person yourself. don't be callin' people crap behind their backs, it just makes you look bad and cowardly.

But then again, what am I saying? I go for the fun and my friends and family I meet at Cons. Not just for the costumes, and most know I don't go for many of the panels either. -shrugs-

::this has been typed up in a rather tired fashion. Pardon the mess.::

[Wrath-Chan19]

*Huggles chan*
I thought your costumes were great this year, and I'm sorry life has been rough for you.

[TomtheFanboy]

maybe they were trying to be funny. Maybe they were doing a parody version of Jesse. What someone cosplays is their own business. I'm with Bresslol and Tom on this one. The thing I find most annoying about con (and after con with the on-forum ranting) is the cosplay elitism.  

Whoa there. I appreciate your sentiment, but I need to point out that I am not saying what the most annoying thing was.

[reppy]

If I want to be Kakashi in a Lolita dress with Itachi's headband around my thigh like a garter belt, I will!

I approve this.

[Black~Rose]

I'm sorry if i annoy anyone or step on anyone's toes, I certainly do not mean to. The thing is, I just don't believe in being mean to anyone because everyone is having fun but I still do have my opinions. I keep my opinions about the specifics to myself and off the forums, I find that to be proper etiquette. That doesn't mean that its necessarily bad to have an opinion does it? Like Clouds for instance, I am always super grateful when someone takes the time to attempt getting the hair right, it makes me sad that not a lot of people try beyond buying the outfit. That being said, I've seen some pretty funny stuff when it came to an inability to completely finish a cosplay and it made me smile. Like in 2009 when there was an Axel walking around con with flat hair and a sign taped to his back that read "cloud stole my hairgel". Most people (including myself) will not be rude or mean to cosplayers unless the cosplayers are rude or creepy or something.
To those of you who gave it your all and due to whatever reason couldn't quite get it right or scrambled ferociously to get one done in time for con and had fun I respect and salute you. Effort is all I ask.

Opinions are okay to have, line is drawn when opinions become mean and hurtful to others. Can we please move on from this topic? Its turning into a never-ending debate that is stepping on too many toes. x_x

[Titus_Love_Doll]

^ agrees with this.

[superjaz]

True because the most annoying thing ever is Niel Diamond music.  EVER. PERIOD

[Black~Rose]

True because the most annoying thing ever is Niel Diamond music.  EVER. PERIOD

XD epic post

[Onchan]

I don't want to bash on or disrespect people for doing a bad cosplay so I'll try not to be too harsh:
When you make your cosplay please please please try and put effort into making it! D:
I see too many people dressing up and their costumes look last minute :/
Take the time and if it isn't ready to be shown or something is missing then don't do it yet, there is always next con ^.^

This is exactly what I meant by cosplay elitism. So the heck what if folks don't have the same skills as you? There's no requirement folks HAVE TO BE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. I've done a terrible House cosplay before (mostly because I'm wayyyyy to fat to be House.) Some people liked it, others didn't. People do come to con just to have fun, you know; not to have the best costume possible. Keep that in mind.

Call it what you want like I said I don't appreciate incomplete cosplays. Do I get offended by people who have completed their costumes and it doesn't look super pro status? No I don't. I'm entitled to my opinion.

[nikkiolie]

If people want to have rushed cosplays that aren't accurate or look great I don't really mind. I by no means am a great cosplayer, I can hardly sew, I don't have much patients but I do take pride in what I do. Personally the thing that really bothers me is the excuses. The "I can't sew that's why I have a bad costume" I can't sew very well either but I still manage to try and get help when I need it. There are hundreds of us on this forum, most of which live withing 10-20 miles from each other, there is no reason that someone couldn't help you sew something. However, even that doesn't bother me too much to make me want to call someone out. WHAT DOES PISS ME OFF, and this did happen during the con, is when I consider myself to have a very nice costume (it was my x-2 Rikku) and the parts that I did do I spent a lot of time and pride on only to have someone is a crappy costume with no wig and hair look like crap tell me the faults of my costume. I guess my thoughts on this are if you can't put together a good looking costume then you are in no place to tell others what is wrong with theirs. Even if you can't put a good looking costume together you really shouldn't tell people what is wrong with their costume, if you feel you must do it with some tact, like "hey how did you do this_____? Oh thats interesting, I've done it this way before and had good results" that way you are not coming off as an a**.

[Washougal_Otaku]

WHAT DOES PISS ME OFF, and this did happen during the con, is when I consider myself to have a very nice costume (it was my x-2 Rikku) and the parts that I did do I spent a lot of time and pride on only to have someone is a crappy costume with no wig and hair look like crap tell me the faults of my costume. I guess my thoughts on this are if you can't put together a good looking costume then you are in no place to tell others what is wrong with theirs. Even if you can't put a good looking costume together you really shouldn't tell people what is wrong with their costume, if you feel you must do it with some tact, like "hey how did you do this_____? Oh thats interesting, I've done it this way before and had good results" that way you are not coming off as an a**.

[Titus_Love_Doll]

What really gets me are the people who think they are know it all the people who really get down and dirty when you now something and they make you feel even more stupid by saying you are not acting like your charater or make fun of how fat you are in your costume. IF i wanna be a punk Chibitalia i will.  It annoys me so much that people think they have the right to tell me to go in charater or act a way that i dont want to I am sorry I cant get my voice so cute and adorble but i can wear a dress so dang well. for a girl i have a boyish voice and getting down to like a anime girl is harder then it looks. and the comment. I love Big women I love big people THEY do anmazing cosplay such as the OX king I loved the OX king adn who ever did it I HEART YOU . but it bathers me theses skinny people or others who arnt skiny look at those who are bigger then them and say oh that person fat they shouldnt cosplay or oh you need to lose weight before showing off your stomic. I feel the need to beat those who make fun of bigger people.  THOSE WHO ARE BIGGER PEOPLE I LOVE YOU AND I LOVE WHEN YOU COSPLAY <3  beside i like >> cuddling them beucseit makes me happy

[Black~Rose]

^ I agree. Size shouldnt matter. Self esteem is an awesome thing to have and an even better thing to encourage.

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ & ^^ The only thing I have to say about that is I've talked to a couple of heavy-set cosplayers about their costumes; they weren't that great.  What they told me was that, since many people didn't like that these big guys were cosplaying as petite characters, they should stop trying.  Therefore, they didn't make much of an effort to please others, since they were never going to be able to please anyone, no matter what they'd do.  I do think that if you're going to do it, or anything, it's better to try your best, even if you know that the outcome isn't going to be sensational.

[nikkiolie]

ACTING IN CHARACTER! Oh god this....this is a topic of so much debate. I personally will never act in character unless I am posing for a picture/video, for a panel and/or in a skit. I personally think I don't need to be in character any other time. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT ACT IN CHARACTER WHEN NOT IN CON SPACE. I have heard so many stories of people going to get food and acting in character and treating the normies (people not attending the con) like crap. The way I look at is this, people who don't cosplay tend to look down on us already, they don't understand, and they don't want to understand. They think we are freaks and don't belong with the rest of the population. I have seen several people stare at me in cosplay and then laugh after I pass (and this is me doing nothing other than walking, not walking funny, not running, not even talking loudly, just walking). I personally want to change this opinion and I think everyone here should as well, so why would you want to do ANYTHING that proves their point? By acting in character when interacting with others that are not at the con only reinforce their stereotypes of us and thus giving ALL cosplayers a bad name. HOWEVER, I have meet several people that have not known about cosplay and when learning about it find it really cool so there is people who don't look down on us.

There are some characters that I have cosplayed or will cosplay that are very close to my personality so acting in character just comes naturally, for example Rikku and Haruko. Both characters have very similar personalities to my own so in that case I seem like I am acting in character but really I am just acting like myself :3

[Titus_Love_Doll]

I dont mind being in charater but i have to really be into the charater >>

[IrukaSensei]

I'm sorry but I personally get annoyed when people aren't in character. Especially during photoshoots. If there is a gathering specifically for that group, then you need to be in character while in that group, especially if pictures are being taken. I've made it a rule, to not take pictures of cosplayers unless they are in character at the time I'm taking the pictures. I want a picture of the person portraying that character. Not murdering what the creator so lovingly made for us to emulate.

Note: I don't care if you do the voices perfectly, but at least do the personality semi-decently. Otherwise, what's the point of wearing the costume, and cosplaying? Cosplay = Costume Play, meaning you are taking on a role. It's acting, it's fun, and it's wrong to not do your best.

[TomtheFanboy]

Note: I don't care if you do the voices perfectly, but at least do the personality semi-decently. Otherwise, what's the point of wearing the costume, and cosplaying? Cosplay = Costume Play, meaning you are taking on a role. It's acting, it's fun, and it's wrong to not do your best.

Wrong?
Really?
Plenty of people wear a costume because that is fun enough. They aren't all cosplayers.
As far as your little etymology lesson, let's look at the word "play".
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/play
Seems just about even to me, maybe those other people in costume are just having "fun".
A different kind of "fun" than you have, as hard as that may be to understand.

Or maybe, just maybe, they have no idea what costume they're wearing and are only doing so at the request of a loved one. True this is a minority, but it reflects poorly on the entire community when a person dons a costume borrowed from their cousin and visits their first convention (a bewildering experience for most) and suddenly has to deal with negativity from complete strangers.

[Titus_Love_Doll]

I just remeber one thing that really gets me is when you get a con stalker who finds you ever year and seems to always be there. or come up behind you and hug you. I ve had this happen to me many time with the same girl from the same cons ive been to she is a little odd herself but i am not saying its bad but it annoys me when the same people wave and say i huged you  then finds you agian and says hey i huged you over and over and over when you see the same person 10 times in one day.... I can tell she didnt wannah get my name so i was hey person ... i now you even out of my own cosplay and wearign my pjs on con floor .

[nikkiolie]

I also didn't say that people shouldn't act in character at con. I just said I don't act in character unless my picture is being taken, I am in a panel, or a skit. I don't run around the con in character the whole time. If others want to do that by all means they can. I also find it extremely rude to do it to someone who doesn't understand what is going on.

[Washougal_Otaku]

I will be in character when I damn well please, and I could care less about what others think.  For the most part, I work at cons and therefore don't have the time to act like said character, unless I make the time for it.  If people don't like that, tough.

[Bresslol]

I personally enjoying just being my own character. It's more entertaining that way. =P

[IrukaSensei]

I'm not saying someone has to be in character 24/7 at a con. But seriously, the reason people like the characters is because of who they are. That's all I'm saying. I'm giving my opinion and how I feel about it. You don't have to like it, but it's just my opinion.

[RozenMaiden_Girl]

Not to seem ungratefull, but some times, when your CLEARLY busy, and doing stuff and have alot in your hands and some one says "Can I take your picture?" Its like, do you NOT see I am bring stuff to my car? I guess.... I love having my picture taken, and what not, when when I am in a rush or my hands are full, I like to be left alone untill I am done....

THAT! And like, being glomped over hour.... It sucks.... And Some times I got stuff in my hand that can break.

[hikaru_maxwell]

^ This. Sometimes it's really not convenient to be running glomped from behind, especially if you have breakable things in your hands, or you've been asked to hold a cosplay prop by someone else and then you've got an "oh no, I'm falling, IT'LL BREAK!!!!!! DDDD:" moment while you try to not drop the prop, not fall over, and not elbow your enthusiastic fan in the face or step on them or something.  I enjoy being glomped as much as the next person, but its really just polite to ask first, or at least make sure they're properly braced for impact and can see you coming.

[GregAtlas]

Uweee hee hee hee hee hee heee~

This thread needed a good evil laugh to lighten things up. 

[Titus_Love_Doll]

^ This. Sometimes it's really not convenient to be running glomped from behind, especially if you have breakable things in your hands, or you've been asked to hold a cosplay prop by someone else and then you've got an "oh no, I'm falling, IT'LL BREAK!!!!!! DDDD:" moment while you try to not drop the prop, not fall over, and not elbow your enthusiastic fan in the face or step on them or something.  I enjoy being glomped as much as the next person, but its really just polite to ask first, or at least make sure they're properly braced for impact and can see you coming.

I was glomped form behinds mnay tiems at con a few times someone had gotten an elbow to face .... it started to bother me becuse of a slight phobia I dont like beign touched with out know or is willing to do it myself... Trust me a bloody nose on a strangers isent to fun . It brothers me so much that i tell people before hand when i frist meet them I dislike beign touch normally at con i cant tell a person but I explect them to be infront of me so i can see. so i am alittle lesss uptight about it.

[IrukaSensei]

From the sounds of it, I need to run my glomp Panel at Kumoricon. >.> So that I can teach all the little cosplayers and congoers, about how to properly glomp and what's appropriate and what is not. I did that at Mewcon for three years, and it seemed to bring down the number or broken props/coslplays/male bits...

[Titus_Love_Doll]

From the sounds of it, I need to run my glomp Panel at Kumoricon. >.> So that I can teach all the little cosplayers and congoers, about how to properly glomp and what's appropriate and what is not. I did that at Mewcon for three years, and it seemed to bring down the number or broken props/coslplays/male bits...

Please I m tired of people pissed off at me becuse my elbow went into their face or i freak out at them >> worse thing that ever happen some random guy glomped me from behind and i didnt now who he was he didnt have a cosplay on or a bage and i freaked out and started to cry and i had to change clothing and shower and check if everythign i ahd was still on me ;-;

[IrukaSensei]

From the sounds of it, I need to run my glomp Panel at Kumoricon. >.> So that I can teach all the little cosplayers and congoers, about how to properly glomp and what's appropriate and what is not. I did that at Mewcon for three years, and it seemed to bring down the number or broken props/coslplays/male bits...

Please I m tired of people pissed off at me becuse my elbow went into their face or i freak out at them >> worse thing that ever happen some random guy glomped me from behind and i didnt now who he was he didnt have a cosplay on or a bage and i freaked out and started to cry and i had to change clothing and shower and check if everythign i ahd was still on me ;-;

I'll see if I am allowed to do this. And if so, if I can get a panel room with enough floor space to run this event. Also need to find a stable/strong/big enough guy to be used as the test dummy. Since my boyfriend is kinda not bulky muscle, and I am always scared I'll break him.

[GregAtlas]

I'll see if I am allowed to do this. And if so, if I can get a panel room with enough floor space to run this event. Also need to find a stable/strong/big enough guy to be used as the test dummy. Since my boyfriend is kinda not bulky muscle, and I am always scared I'll break him.

I might be able to accomidate you in that regard if I can afford to come. Probably Day 1 would be best for me but that is just a guess based on cosplays for photoshoot ideas. Day 1 would be a good day to do it for the purpose of the panel too. PM if you're interested.

[Black~Rose]

Nikkiolie makes a good point. Being in character around someone who doesn't know whats going on and/or is just doing their job (especialy if your character is somewhat of a rude person) it reflects poorly on us as a whole. Treat the people at subway, starbucks, plaid pantry, ect.. as you would if you weren't wearing a cosplay - normal and courteously. This way we are less likely to be shunned and given the evil eye at places where conventions are held. Our goal should be to make it a pleasant convention for everyone, including the non-attendees, so that we are welcomed back with open arms.

[GregAtlas]

Repeat after me... This land... Is made of... love and peace!

Yay, your soul is mine now~ <3

[RozenMaiden_Girl]

From the sounds of it, I need to run my glomp Panel at Kumoricon. >.> So that I can teach all the little cosplayers and congoers, about how to properly glomp and what's appropriate and what is not. I did that at Mewcon for three years, and it seemed to bring down the number or broken props/coslplays/male bits...

YES! Please do this!

[Mog]

I don't think I glomped anyone that I didn't ask ;-; Well, unless they had a glomp me sign and I could tell they didn't have anything breakable in their arms. If you wear a glomp me sign, You are going to get glomped, just remember that. But seriously, randomly glomping people just cause they are in the cosplay you like isn't okay. I'm one to respect someone's personal space when they want it.

[Washougal_Otaku]

I personally enjoying just being my own character. It's more entertaining that way. =P

You ARE a character, Bressler!

[dark4ever]

Not to seem ungratefull, but some times, when your CLEARLY busy, and doing stuff and have alot in your hands and some one says "Can I take your picture?" Its like, do you NOT see I am bring stuff to my car? I guess.... I love having my picture taken, and what not, when when I am in a rush or my hands are full, I like to be left alone untill I am done....

THAT! And like, being glomped over hour.... It sucks.... And Some times I got stuff in my hand that can break.

I got asked to take a picture by three people while I was eating a peanut butter sandwich. That was fun to try and do my creepy smile with peanut butter in my teeth.

[Washougal_Otaku]

I don't remember if this has been said or not, but it's been continuously been played at my college, as well; that rainbow-pop-tart-cat-thing!

[GregAtlas]

I don't remember if this has been said or not, but it's been continuously been played at my college, as well; that rainbow-pop-tart-cat-thing!

yeah, nyan cat is quite addicting but eventually the diabetes sets in. Apparently it started as a vocaloid song but was remade and put to the mindblowing adorable poptart cat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs-qfcfnsBw&feature=autoshare "survival of nyan cat not gaurenteed"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4Wz1FZmlU

[Washougal_Otaku]

It started with the Vocaloids...?  Ow... my head hurts...

...now I want to eat the Nyan cat; I'm hungry.

[GregAtlas]

Remember, 2 fit in the toaster, but there will always be more you can order on the internets

[Wrath-Chan19]

It started with the Vocaloids...?  Ow... my head hurts...

...now I want to eat the Nyan cat; I'm hungry.

yup! I was surprised too when I found out. It was Originally a Hatsune Miku osng, but the version used for Nyan Cat is done by my favorite Utauloid Momone Momo

[CyberIncision]

THIS! ^>V< ALL OF THIS!

[GregAtlas]

O.o is that supposed to be the YMCA?

[CyberIncision]

YES!... No, I meant all annoying things listed

[Drauska]

A girl standing next to me in line was glomped and the Glomper had her hands in a fist.  This Glomper was very excited about the formentioned glomp, ran up to the glompie for the glomp and punched me in the face and knocked me into the trekkie standing next to me.  She had no idea of what she did and then ran off to glomp someone else.

[Wrath-Chan19]

^ now that is just really mean!!!
It's fine to be excited but make sure no one gets hurt!

[TomtheFanboy]

Punching is bad, but the closed hand glomp is something I actually taught in my glomp safety lessons.

It prevents accidental groping of the boobs (such as if they are bound or the costume is baggy).

[chelseahavoc]

i lost the game sooooo anoys me and people forgeting its spoused to be fun makes me mad too

but two of my MAJOR BEEFS are
1: people cosyplaying from a gmae/anime/show and have no idea what its about because they were just fallowing the croud
2: people treating other people rudely because thier costume isnt up to thier standereds (for example if i was to treat a sailor mars cosplayer rudely because thier bow wasnt big enough)

[Washougal_Otaku]

A girl standing next to me in line was glomped and the Glomper had her hands in a fist.  This Glomper was very excited about the formentioned glomp, ran up to the glompie for the glomp and punched me in the face and knocked me into the trekkie standing next to me.  She had no idea of what she did and then ran off to glomp someone else.

Punching is bad, but the closed hand glomp is something I actually taught in my glomp safety lessons.

It prevents accidental groping of the boobs (such as if they are bound or the costume is baggy).

It sounds like you should have also taught how to properly swing one's arms around so as to prevent harming an innocent bystandard...

[IrukaSensei]

That's why I teach all the Glomp techniques I have learned in all my years of glomping. Anyways, Just a quick note in here to answer a persons question. Yes I'll be doing the Glomp panel.


Something else that annoys me, when people have no bloody manners towards those around them. And think that because they paid to do this event, and someone else volunteered their time to be at the event, somehow entitles them to treat the volunteer like manure.

[Black~Rose]

That's why I teach all the Glomp techniques I have learned in all my years of glomping. Anyways, Just a quick note in here to answer a persons question. Yes I'll be doing the Glomp panel.


Something else that annoys me, when people have no bloody manners towards those around them. And think that because they paid to do this event, and someone else volunteered their time to be at the event, somehow entitles them to treat the volunteer like manure.

Oh god that is super annoying!! It happens at the nightmare factory a lot too. People think that cuz they paid to go in they can treat all the actors like crap! Its not the case.

[chelseahavoc]

know what else i hate. people smoking at the convention.

i personaly cant breathe in smoke with out it seriously hurting my lungs. plus i work hard on my costumes and dont want them to reek of smoke

[GregAtlas]

Agreed and there were quite a few times it was a problem for me as well, especially on the corner of the hilton by the crosswalk.

[IrukaSensei]

Hey, I'm a smoker and know for a fact that most of us are some bloody polite people. We usually ask if someone minds if we smoke there. If they do mind I go somewhere else. We go to con todo the things we enjoy, and I enjoy smoking. So thusly in areas where smoking is allowed, I'm gonna smoke. If you are seriously offended by that then you should politely ask the person to step over somewhere else to smoke. You can have an opinion without being offensive.

That's another thing that annoys me. Peoe that think their opinion is the mist beautiful thing in the world. So they procee to berate me for my opinion. Which isn't right. I hope my panel at con may cut down on some of this stuff.

[chelseahavoc]

^im sorry if you took what i said offensivly. i should have stated that i ment in or near con space (i.e. 9 feet with in a door to a business i beleve its law.... or i read that somewhere.... ) realy for me its when i step out a door and basicly get hit in the face from someone smokeing right there.

[dark4ever]

Oh my gosh, that bugged me so much. I saw the designated areas for people to smoke and could easily avoid them (They're easy to get to and easy to avoid, as they should be), but I kept seeing people that were leaning on pillars that were right outside the door. I have asthma, so this really, REALLY made me unhappy. I ended up not going outside much because I'd tried to cough up my lung...

Iruka, I saw you smoking once, and you were fine *nods* Though I find it funny when I see certain characters smoking. Lizzie from Black Butler? That was PRICELESS xDDD

[GregAtlas]

I know there were quite a few smokers that were polite, but like I was pointing out, there were some smokers that were hanging out in the most populated areas of the con like that corner. There is always somebody who ruins it for everybody else remember, and this isn't a discussion on whether it is right/wrong to smoke.

For me it isn't a matter of opinion. If I breath someone's smoke even third hand smoke (smoke on their clothes, furniture, etc) I tend to get sick for days. I wasn't around it enough at the con to be too affected but it was still unpleasant with that smell (body odor is more pleasant to me and yes, I know that is a matter of opinion). I'm sure you would understand not wanting to feel like you have the flu every few days.

^im sorry if you took what i said offensivly. i should have stated that i ment in or near con space (i.e. 9 feet with in a door to a business i beleve its law.... or i read that somewhere.... ) realy for me its when i step out a door and basicly get hit in the face from someone smokeing right there.

"25 feet (7.6 m) of doors, windows, or ventilation intakes" in Washington state. "10 feet (3.0 m) of the entrances, exits, or windows of such places." in Oregon state.

Personally I didn't see any designated smoking places, but I wasn't looking for them.

There was an Asuma Sensei that was actually smoking and while he looked cool, especially for pictures, it was almost painful being subjected to it. (still looking for that picture someone took of him and my friend)

[GregAtlas]

Oh, another thing that bugs me at anime conventions is how during the cosplay events characters will use music and have the "needle scratching across the record" sound effect to switch between songs. I didn't go to any of these events for kumoricon so I didn't experience any (except maybe one while I was walking by the main hall), but I have seen plenty of youtube videos where people use that technique.

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ I'm one of them.  I don't see anything wrong with it, unless it's overly done.  (I only did it once back in '09).

[hikaru_maxwell]

Something I just remembered that annoyed me very much at con this year: When you've done your time, worked your butt off volunteering, gotten your priority seating ticket or volunteer ticket, earned your right to sit in the priority seating row, been shown to your seats even....and then someone comes up (especially someone you know) and questions, to your face, your right to be sitting there, demands to see your tickets, and then takes your volunteer ticket and goes to demand a second opinion from another staff member before believing that you are allowed to sit there.

Especially when it happens TWICE. On the same day.

[Titus_Love_Doll]

rude people.....
pushy people....
full elavtors .....
people who talk about you over rumors they heard from other people .....

thats is all ..

[Washougal_Otaku]

Something I just remembered that annoyed me very much at con this year: When you've done your time, worked your butt off volunteering, gotten your priority seating ticket or volunteer ticket, earned your right to sit in the priority seating row, been shown to your seats even....and then someone comes up (especially someone you know) and questions, to your face, your right to be sitting there, demands to see your tickets, and then takes your volunteer ticket and goes to demand a second opinion from another staff member before believing that you are allowed to sit there.

Especially when it happens TWICE. On the same day.

That sounds like an uninformed Yojimbo on proper procedures.  Hopefully that'll be taken care of this year.

[Wuntvor]

"The Game" and "Marco - Polo".  One year I was on the second floor mezzanine at the Hilton and the person next to me, quite literally yelled in my ear at the top of their lungs POLO!

It may not be an annoying thing, but something that does peeve me no end.  People NOT ATTENDING GOH PANELS.  The one thing that , for me at least, defines a convention, is being able to meet celebrities that I couldn't meet at any other time.  So, I go into the panel for Cynthia Martinez (English voice of Lina Inverse from the Slayers movies and Sora Naegino from Kaliedo Star among others), and there are maybe 20 people in a room large enough to hold 200.  They didn't even fill the first two rows.  I can hear tons of people in the area outside the doors making noise, yelling, screaming, I look outside the door and 90 people are just loitering around talking to one another.  WTF!  How much did we pay this person to fly out here, provide them an escort, pay for their room, and 20 people show up to see them out of over 1000, that is just wrong.  I went to her autograph session later in the day, 150 people easy.

I don't know, maybe I am just showing my age, but people who come to the con and spend the entire day in the gaming room hogging a game that they own at home, or playing an RPG. You payed admission so you could do this?

I feel terribly uncomfortable when a really young female asks if she can hug me.  I never know what to do with my hands.  I usually try to hold the small of the back in a gentle squeeze, but my arms are long enough to grab my own elbows with each hand and still have this "little kid" not feel any pressure.  When you consider that I am probably as old as, or older, than their parents, you wonder if the same kid would ever even THINK about hugging their dad that way.  I doubt it.

My daughter was in a mascot costume (Silver the Hedgehog) and had very limited visibility.  She was mass glomped to the point of almost falling down, and then actually picked up off the ground.  It scared the (bleep) out of her, she couldn't even see who was holding her.  My wife was her handler, and they actually pushed her out of the way.  Now THAT is rude.

[Washougal_Otaku]

"The Game" and "Marco - Polo".  One year I was on the second floor mezzanine at the Hilton and the person next to me, quite literally yelled in my ear at the top of their lungs POLO!

That's crap.  I hate it when my girlfriend does that, and she does it frequently.

It may not be an annoying thing, but something that does peeve me no end.  People NOT ATTENDING GOH PANELS.  The one thing that , for me at least, defines a convention, is being able to meet celebrities that I couldn't meet at any other time.  So, I go into the panel for Cynthia Martinez (English voice of Lina Inverse from the Slayers movies and Sora Naegino from Kaliedo Star among others), and there are maybe 20 people in a room large enough to hold 200.  They didn't even fill the first two rows.  I can hear tons of people in the area outside the doors making noise, yelling, screaming, I look outside the door and 90 people are just loitering around talking to one another.  WTF!  How much did we pay this person to fly out here, provide them an escort, pay for their room, and 20 people show up to see them out of over 1000, that is just wrong.  I went to her autograph session later in the day, 150 people easy.

I agree.  Those panels are one of the main reasons for the cons, and these people are coming out hear for smaller and smaller groups, especially those that get their fame from somewhat older shows.  I really wanted to go to her panels, but had to work. I've heard that she wanted to come back some time, and I hope that's true, because I'd like to meet her.

I don't know, maybe I am just showing my age, but people who come to the con and spend the entire day in the gaming room hogging a game that they own at home, or playing an RPG. You payed admission so you could do this?

I've never really thought about it, but now that you mention it, yeah, that is somewhat illogical.

I feel terribly uncomfortable when a really young female asks if she can hug me.  I never know what to do with my hands.  I usually try to hold the small of the back in a gentle squeeze, but my arms are long enough to grab my own elbows with each hand and still have this "little kid" not feel any pressure.  When you consider that I am probably as old as, or older, than their parents, you wonder if the same kid would ever even THINK about hugging their dad that way.  I doubt it.

Agreed, though I'm not that old.

My daughter was in a mascot costume (Silver the Hedgehog) and had very limited visibility.  She was mass glomped to the point of almost falling down, and then actually picked up off the ground.  It scared the (bleep) out of her, she couldn't even see who was holding her.  My wife was her handler, and they actually pushed her out of the way.  Now THAT is rude.

Not only is that rude, but it's immoral.  It's not their child, and doing things like that to her WITHOUT a parent's approval is borderline criminal!  Your wife should have reported it to a Yojimbo.  That's not cool!

[zenneth]

i finally realized something... there was this girl who kept laughing (mockingly) at me whenever she sees me, so i was really curious why she was laughing (of course i was being friendly) so i asked her why, so after around 10-20 minutes of bugging her why, she told me in a serious face that my black rock star was either too big or in the wrong area-- i think that was 1 of 2 people that was rude to me... the other one was a panel person in the karaoke, but i could prolly understand  coz he's a panel person, but he was just plainly mock-joke my way of dancing abracadabra-- which wasnt really that bad, but i got a little ashamed of it-- XDDD i was probably too tolerant of the people around me.

[Chromophobic]

-Rude glompers. Okay, glomping is okay if you ASK for PERMISSION! My sister got punched in the face by a glomper who glomped my boyfriend at this years con. It was a random glomp as well.

[Titus_Love_Doll]

-Rude glompers. Okay, glomping is okay if you ASK for PERMISSION! My sister got punched in the face by a glomper who glomped my boyfriend at this years con. It was a random glomp as well.

mmmhmm i gave someone a blooody nose becuse i got glomped form behind and  moves in reaction poor poor glomper but thats what they get for doing it and random glompers please do waht she says random glomps are not fun and can hurt other con goers or you can get hurt ... and DONT EVER GLOMP FROM BEHIND!!!! becuse ... ... some people have a touching phobia that makes it really hard for them to handel that kinda thing ..... and migth get put into a panic attack

[OokamiYami]

The thing that annoyed me the most is when cosplayers think they are the BEST cosplayer within the convention. Seriously? My brother told me he overheard a girl bragging to this guy, who was about to take her photo, about how she's the only one perfect for that specific character and that no one can pull it off but her. Come on people...There's no competition here (unless you entered the cosplay costume contest). You might as well just have fun, make new friends, and stop stressing about how you need to be the perfect-looking cosplayer; in addition, keep your words to yourself and just go rant at home, not in public. 

[chelseahavoc]

^ exactly! its this kind of thing that make me shy away from talking to new people. i see AMAZING (in my mind) cosplayers all the time and i realy want to see how they did something but half the time im too afriad their going to be like "go away you suck" or something.... but the ff10 group this last year (2011) was super nice im glad i mustered up the curage to talk to them n.n

[GregAtlas]

Another annoying thing: That Scion ice cream car/van thing... It looked like it was there to abduct children.

[Chromophobic]

Another annoying thing: That Scion ice cream car/van thing... It looked like it was there to abduct children.

If it's the same one I'm thinking, that one scared the living [censor] out of me. I walked by it and it just gave me a weird vibe... .__.

[hikaru_maxwell]

Another annoying thing at anime conventions: People who think they can deliberately slam into you and then yell at you for "taking up the entire sidewalk" when you're really not, just because you happen to be the only person in your cosplay group that looks like an actual girl (and not boys or boys in drag. my poor little sister).

It wasn't a cosplayer that did it, but the also did that to another member of our group when she changed out of her male costume and into a more feminine one later that day. Most non-cosplayers that you encounter are at least polite (when asking why you are dressed up), but some of them are really mean! D:

[Saki-the-cat]

Another annoying thing: That Scion ice cream car/van thing... It looked like it was there to abduct children.

That wasn't annoying. That was just disturbing e_e I was seriously wondering when i was going to walk by it and see police officers talking to the guy in the car...

[Jacob_Blackfeather]

when people think your mad and don't approch you when your just thinking about something BI

[Washougal_Otaku]

Another annoying thing: That Scion ice cream car/van thing... It looked like it was there to abduct children.

If it's the same one I'm thinking, that one scared the living [censor] out of me. I walked by it and it just gave me a weird vibe... .__.

I have no clue as to the van that you're speaking of, but it makes me wonder if it's the guy known in the Random Panel as "Creepy Van Guy."

Another annoying thing at anime conventions: People who think they can deliberately slam into you and then yell at you for "taking up the entire sidewalk" when you're really not, just because you happen to be the only person in your cosplay group that looks like an actual girl (and not boys or boys in drag. my poor little sister).

It wasn't a cosplayer that did it, but the also did that to another member of our group when she changed out of her male costume and into a more feminine one later that day. Most non-cosplayers that you encounter are at least polite (when asking why you are dressed up), but some of them are really mean! D:

That's weird; I don't think I've ever heard of something like that.  That's a form of assault!

[Black~Rose]

Another annoying thing at anime conventions: People who think they can deliberately slam into you and then yell at you for "taking up the entire sidewalk" when you're really not, just because you happen to be the only person in your cosplay group that looks like an actual girl (and not boys or boys in drag. my poor little sister).

It wasn't a cosplayer that did it, but the also did that to another member of our group when she changed out of her male costume and into a more feminine one later that day. Most non-cosplayers that you encounter are at least polite (when asking why you are dressed up), but some of them are really mean! D:

They only did it to the feminine ones? That's really really rude.

[shikyo]

I'm so annoyed by all the haughty cosplayers.. Seriously grow up. I'm overweight but I put EFFORT into my cosplays and I believe they look good, of course they better since I pay a seamstress to do my outfits. It may not be my personal efforts but I work to pay for my outfits I want. A lot of the cosplayers from an anime I also cosplayed from were snobs.. Not all but some were. Just because you're outfit and body type are great doesn't give you the right to be a jerk.

Also another thing that annoys me are the immature people, most of them are underage. I want to have fun at an anime convention, not be bombarded with reckless running into people, yelling, glomping without asking, etc. Nothing irks me more then a person who forgets there manners just because it's an anime convention. Sorry but anime conventions are still in a public place.

My friend gave friendly attention to a girl's shoe, she was on the floor waiting for me, because she thought the girl didn't notice it was slightly coming apart and just wanted to let her know. She thanks her and leaves. 20 minutes later her underage? friends came storming over and blew up in my friend's face saying how rude and stupid she was, blah blah blah. GROW UP. If SHE had a problem then SHE should have came over instead of hiding behing her rude friends. People... Manners... Apparently being nice is not wanted..

[Elefante]

Sorry for asking, but, could someone please tell me what glomping is? This will be my first time a Kumoricon. XD

[Saki-the-cat]

Sorry for asking, but, could someone please tell me what glomping is? This will be my first time a Kumoricon. XD

Glomping is a cross between tackling and hugging. It's generally dangerous, both to the person and their costume (if wearing one) ^^; If i also recall right, one of the con rules is to ask people before glomping them.

[Raveen92]

An annoying thing, is when a person who talks very loudly and they won't stop following you around, despite all the subtle hints you drop.

[Titus_Love_Doll]

I find people annoying no matter what personally i don't like being around alot of people but con I do enjoy becuse of the new people i meet and It helps me get over my small phobia i have... but what really is annoying to be is when complete strangers come up to you and the group lets say your cosplaying naruto and more naruto people come to you and those people are talking about you and saying rude and hurt full things and all you can do it sit there and state.." WOW really i m right here " and it gets annyoing when those friends of yours agree with them.

That is what i find annoying at con T_T really when people talk bad about you and your right there...

[DSaturn]

This year the thing with the chair was really annoying. I agree that it was funny at first, but people took it way too far. I was sitting in front of a couple of people who were yelling out things like they were going to kill anyone who sat in the chair. THAT was incredibly rude and inappropriate.

Usually, the only issue I personally see at con is hall clogging. People stop to talk and completely block the path for others. I am more leiniante when it comes to pictures just because I know how hard it sometimes is to get to an area where a picture is even possible, and someone not wanting to miss getting a picture of someone they don't know if they will see again.

[Washougal_Otaku]

I think it's the fact that some people insist on their fanbase to the point to where they question your geekiness. I'm sorry if I don't like Pokemon, or have never played a single Final Fantasy. It doesn't mean that I'm not a nerd.

[Titus_Love_Doll]

OMG  I was helpign with staff and dureing voteing all people voted for was chair chair chair chair chair chair!!! half the votes did count beucse people voted for chair

[chelseahavoc]

Usually, the only issue I personally see at con is hall clogging. People stop to talk and completely block the path for others. I am more leiniante when it comes to pictures just because I know how hard it sometimes is to get to an area where a picture is even possible, and someone not wanting to miss getting a picture of someone they don't know if they will see again.

this right here.

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ During my one year as a member of Yojimbo, I had to ask people to clear the hallways a few times. It was both fun and annoying. It kind of amuses me that so many people forget to keep a clear path at cons, as well ad annoying.

[CaptnPoptart]

Honestly, the "I Lost the Game" thing is something I'm not too bothered by, because I only hear it at anime conventions, or among 2 of my friends I rarely hear it from. But it has gotten a BIT old

With the voice acting question, I have heard the same answer once before, and I like going to VA panels because I get inspired myself to Voice Act. But I'd HATE having to hear the SAME 20 minute answer to the SAME question over AND over AND over again.

I absolutely HATE all the cosplays being from the same series or the exact same thing. It's better to have more of a variety instead of just 1/2 of the con being Naruto, Bleach, and Kingdom Hearts cosplays.

I've been to autograph lines before, and I've only been in two EXTREMELY long ones (only one was which I couldn't get an autograph cause there's too many dang fangirls who take up 10 minutes with the guest >_>"" ) So I can feel from super long autograph lines, but I just get there super early to hopefully get my autograph, picture, maybe a small question or two, then GO. My anime convention time is LIMITED.

Personally, I LOVE The Chair, although I only participated with it for one Kumoricon. I'd love to have The Chair come back, but it is quite annoying. One of my best friends at her first anime convention got OBSESSED with The Chair ^_^'

[Titus_Love_Doll]

Personally, I LOVE The Chair, although I only participated with it for one Kumoricon. I'd love to have The Chair come back, but it is quite annoying. One of my best friends at her first anime convention got OBSESSED with The Chair ^_^'

It was really bad with the chair really bad. When you are going threw 1000+ votes and and most of them being chair. D: I know chair is awsume guys but really please vote right and not vote chair.

People who destory the ending of animes you are not done with ... i dont know how many times people ruined and ending for me even after i ask them not to say it becuse some of us havent got to that point yet.... and when people SIT right in the middle of the walk way ! comeone people dont sit there you ll become a pancake if there is a flash mod !

[kittykat1blabla]

Oh God, defiantly the whole 'game' thing. Everytime anyone tries to tell me 'I lost the game' a little part of me dies inside, sure, I used to do it back in '09, but when I see people doing it nowadays I just kinda pause, look at them, and say nothing. I'm not the type of person who likes to be rude, but it's ridiculous how often it happens at conventions, or worse, OUT OF CONVENTIONS.

Also, that whole chair thing, it was funny at first, then it got out of hand and all and all it was rude to the performers who really went up there and tried. Then, the rest of the convention I only heard about that, it was a joke that got old for me really fast. Again, it was rude to the performers. And the way people felt the need to OVERREACT to something that was funny really ruined the whole entire joke for me. It was annoying after about an hour of hearing about it, actually, annoying after the whole room started screaming, I don't mind screaming at conventions, but maybe they should be doing it for the people who worked their butt off practicing and going up there to perform?

UGH, did I mention it was the rudest thing ever?

[kalagei]

I find it to be that no matter how hard I try, I can never remember to bring a second pair of shoes with me...

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ lol  I've done that quite a few times!  At this year's Sakura-con, I would wear my hiking boots from time while cosplaying Sailor Mantune.  They were life savers.

Personally, I LOVE The Chair, although I only participated with it for one Kumoricon. I'd love to have The Chair come back, but it is quite annoying. One of my best friends at her first anime convention got OBSESSED with The Chair ^_^'

It was really bad with the chair really bad. When you are going threw 1000+ votes and and most of them being chair. D: I know chair is awsume guys but really please vote right and not vote chair.

The Nyan cat.  Seriously.  Can someone please catch that thing, put it in a toaster, and set it to DARK!!! already?

[Titus_Love_Doll]

omg yes that cat but! it is kinda cute when your change stuff with it and do small comics with it.

[LIGHT]

The Most Annoying thing ever.


When people Pull on your tail. (If you're a character with one)
I've gone to a lot of event type things where I was dressed as Pikachu and I seriously wanted to Slap everyone that pulled on my tail.
It even came out sometimes! T.T

[Classy Viking]

The People.

[Raveen92]

Annoying thing is when people assume you know what anime they are talking about. I don't know how many people assumed that I knew Black Butler, but it really Grinds my Gears.

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ I feel the same way about Pokemon...

[Runa]

The CHAIR rave....

[Titus_Love_Doll]

^ chair is evil

I also annoyed when you are trying to get threw the hall ways and people are sitting right there and you ask them to move and they wont T_T

[kalagei]

The Most Annoying thing ever.


When people Pull on your tail. (If you're a character with one)
I've gone to a lot of event type things where I was dressed as Pikachu and I seriously wanted to Slap everyone that pulled on my tail.
It even came out sometimes! T.T

I had a really awkward situation with this back in 2010.

[kalagei]

"the game" is sooo annoying!

Any time I heard it I responded as loudly as possible "you have won the game, you are free!"

The problem is though, this is getting just as cliche and over used as the game is

[@random]

^ I dunno... is it even possible for something to get as cliche and overused as the game?

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ Your mom. 

I've won... the game. 

[acton]

The CHAIR rave....

I second it

[hikaru_maxwell]

One thing that does annoy at anime conventions (which thankfully doesn't happen often) is when people you know or you consider 'friends' (though if it happens with random strangers do report it to a Yojimbo) literally DRAG you away from a conversation you're having so they can force you into photo ops or other things. It happened to me at a convention where someone I knew repeatedly kept grabbing me by the arm and forcing me away from the people I was talking to so they could get pictures with me or something. It's not only rude, and painful if the person grabbing you is gripping too hard or you don't move in the direction you're being pulled fast enough, but it can make the people you were talking to very concerned that something is wrong.

another thing is cosplay snobs. Not just the elitists who'll look down on you because of the cosplay you're wearing, but the ones that are from the same series, and you go to talk to them, but they basically blow you off or say "oh, I have my own cosplay group" and ignore you because you're not part of their little clique of cosplay friends that they've known forever. We go to cons to have fun, meet people, expand our friendship circles to include other people who like the same things we do, right? The least we can all do is be polite to each other. Who knows, you might be able to make some new friends.

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ chair is evil

I also annoyed when you are trying to get threw the hall ways and people are sitting right there and you ask them to move and they wont T_T

I can see that getting annoying. If it's a group, I like to force my way in the middle and do a weird dance until they get the hint.    Just kidding; I've never had to do it myself. People usually move out of the way when I ask them to do so, but I could see me doing this if it ever happened to me.

Another thing that I find annoying are the teenage girls who wear cosplays that show off WAY too much skin.

[CaptnPoptart]

^ I remember watching a video about an experienced con-goer counting down the top dos and donts when you go to an anime convention and one of the things was checking the person's age before you hit on them (not just as an in-character thing.) ESPECIALLY if youre over 18. I feel like the teenage girls that cosplay in stuff that shows a ton of skin are in danger of getting into a dangerous situation. It can be annoying as well. I agree.

[Titus_Love_Doll]

^ chair is evil

I also annoyed when you are trying to get threw the hall ways and people are sitting right there and you ask them to move and they wont T_T

I can see that getting annoying. If it's a group, I like to force my way in the middle and do a weird dance until they get the hint.    Just kidding; I've never had to do it myself. People usually move out of the way when I ask them to do so, but I could see me doing this if it ever happened to me.

Another thing that I find annoying are the teenage girls who wear cosplays that show off WAY too much skin.

^ agree BIG TIME alot of people complain about stalkers and pervs well there you go wear an outfit that shows to much and are underage and not know what your getting into thats what happens

[mizushimo]

The Chair. I mean, Wtf?
Basically a IRL Meme took over several big Kumoricon events. At least that's what I think happened....

[prussia]

random glomps.
people who act wayyyy too in character (especially with a rude or mean character)
and props that aren't silent (had a fog horn blown in my ear at scon. wasn't that awesome.....)

[@random]

I've moved the posts on skimpy outfits and the debate that ensued to Skimpy outfits, propriety, and morals so that discussion can continue.

[Kimiski]

Chair.

[EveofAbyss]

Did we have another Chair Skit incident? Tell me this didn't happen again...

[bunny_jean]

Did we have another Chair Skit incident? Tell me this didn't happen again...

As far as I know it wasn't to the same extent, but lots of audience members were always yelling for it. :/ I just know that whenever it came up during the cosplay contest all of us in the green room were booing hysterically.

[brossiya]

random glomps.
people who act wayyyy too in character (especially with a rude or mean character)
and props that aren't silent (had a fog horn blown in my ear at scon. wasn't that awesome.....)

I second random glomps and would like to add minors that throw goldfish crackers at other people because they think it's funny. It's kind of a pain when they're bouncing the blasted crackers off your head and trying to get them down the front of your suit jacket like it's a set of goalposts. It took a lot of patience to not get upset because they probably were just being bratty and shouting wouldn't have fixed it. It's not a huge big deal complaint though. I just told the kid not to do it again because it wasn't appropriate and went on talking to someone else.

Otherwise, con was pretty good.

[MadMoai]

This was only my second anime convention, so I didn't experience anything that was particularly annoying. Maybe I'm just too easygoing.

It bothered me for a while when people kept shouting that they lost the game, but then I heard others saying they "found the game." I thought it was a funny response...

Not sure what the whole Chair thing is, but I might have heard it in the opening ceremonies.

It does irk me a little bit when I wear my Gakupo costumes and people point out that they can see my hair. I don't wear a wig cap with that wig because it makes the ponytail fall off, so I just tie my real hair back and let it show behind the actual wig. The point is, it's not that obscure that I'm not trying to hide my real hair. If I was trying, it'd probably be tied up higher than the lowest part of my head...

[princess_of_zeal]

The whole "Your copslay is great but..." back-handed compliment.  I understand if someone is trying to be helpful but I'm talking about the ones that pretty much say your cosplay fails because of a small detail.  My fan wasn't big enough.  Fine, YOU carry my approximately 5 foot tall fan around for me and I'll get/make a fan that big.  I figured up to my my hip was plenty big.  *rant over*

Drunk people insulting my friends.  Enough said.

Any elitist behavior.  Confidence is one thing, being inconsiderate is another.

[Smashley]

This is a very specific incident, but it is hands down the most annoying thing I have EVER experienced at a con.

My friends and I were waiting in line for the photo booth, which we had found randomly and thought it would be a fun thing to do to pass the time. This girl comes in behind us and she is just kind of talking which I don't really mind. People get excited at anime conventions and I'm used to this. One of my friends is talking to the really amazing Halo cosplayers in front of us and asking how they made their costumes. They are really friendly and informed her they made the armor out of foam. Girl behind us perks up and decides to inform us that SHE made her costume out of foam TOO.

Okay, so maybe she is just excited about her costume. NBD. But it gets worse. My friend says something about this being her first anime convention. Girl behind us says; "Oh, so you probably didn't hear about the mini skirt incident." THE MINI SKIRT INCIDENT. THAT HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO. Where the Roy Mustang cosplayer interrupted Sonny Straight's panel to take off her pants and put on a mini skirt. The only reason it was funny was because Sonny made it funny. The girl behind us is THAT girl. No one was talking about something irrelevant that happened two years ago. She brought it up for no reason and then wanted me to tell the story. I promptly declined.

BUT SHE'S NOT DONE. She starts talking very loudly about the people currently getting their photos taken at the booth. She starts straight up insulting their costumes. Then tells us she commissioned hers. THEN she turns to the guy watching the door and says; "Did you buy your costume? I can tell by the quality that you bought it." ....WTH. I almost left the photo booth to keep from being rude to a stranger. And THEN to top it all off she says to the people running the booth if she can get in front of the line with a VIP pass. My friends and I were the only group left in front of her. I wanted to die.

Anyway, that's my most annoying con experience.

[chelseahavoc]

smashly: i read that whole post and just kinda stared blankly at my computer for a couple minutes. that is ridiculous and im sorry you had that experience

ON TO MY SMALL RANT

If your in a glomp circle ("hey guess what" "what" "hey guess what go glomp this person!!) DO NOT SEND PEOPLE TO TACKLE SOMEONE OUT OF YOUR CIRCLE.

if we arnt in your "awesome circle" we dont want in on your painfull and costume ripping game. kay thanx bye.

[Black~Rose]

I got asked where my boyfriend was and where my chainsaw was as Juliet TOO MANY TIMES!!! I wanted to slap people after the third time super badly. Jesus, I'm sorry I didnt have the money to get that stuff done, I still had awesome props and you know what? It still made sense because in the beginning of the game she was LOOKING for her boyfriend and his head wasnt cut off yet. Why cant people just appreciate a cosplay as is and be fine with that?  It was worse when it was snarky.

Also, I saw someone be extreamly rude to someone in a furry costume. I understand there is a dark side to furry fans but there is no need to be rude to someone you dont even know and that isnt doing anything wrong, just walking by. She held up her notebook in front of her face and said "eww furry" and the person in the costume sagged their shoulders down and looked visibly hurt (as far as I could tell because I couldn't see the face ) So I offered them a hug immediatly and told them I liked their costume because you know what? it was cute and they deserved to be respected.

[bunny_jean]

To be honest all of the "hey girl hey"s were really obnoxious. Mainly because I'm assuming that maybe 90% of the people saying it don't know where it comes from. It's from this one girl that was on a show called "A Shot at Love with Tila Tequila" which was an awful dating show on MTV FIVE YEARS AGO.

I liked all of the different iterations of it, such as "hey bro hey" and "bye girl bye," but the original got old REALLY quick. -_-

[EveofAbyss]

I wasn't hearing it much at con, but it is all I've been reading since con...and it can fade into obscurity with THE GAME and MARCO POLO.

[bunny_jean]

I wasn't hearing it much at con, but it is all I've been reading since con...and it can fade into obscurity with THE GAME and MARCO POLO.

Maybe it was the panels I went to and the people I hung out with, but I only heard the game once and didn't hear marco polo at all, and only heard objection/overruled once as well... but hey girl hey a bazillion times.

[SpaceCubaLikesConan]

There was this one really annoying middle-aged looking guy who followed me and my friend around when we were cosplaying ponies (I was vinyl, she was Pinkie). I'm 18, and my costume could've been considered "sexy", so I'm not too upset about him following me. It's my own fault for wearing that.
But my friend is 15, and her costume was far from revealing. He kept following her saying "You've got a follower now, Pinkie" and that just creeped the hell out of my whole group.

Another thing is the use of the word "nya". It gets really annoying when someone says it after the end of EVERY sentence. You're not a real cat girl, so shut up.

[EveofAbyss]

Yeah, those other ones were trends of past cons that have thankfully disappeared with the years. Heygurl can gladly follow them, lol.

[Bresslol]

I think the Chair meme was put to bed quite hilariously at the Charity auction:

The Chair donated its winning cosplay contest placard to the Charity auction and held it up onstage. It went for $40, and was handed to the winner. Beau then kicked the chair over. Applause was had.

[EveofAbyss]

That is fantastic. Triumph!

[Bresslol]

There was this one really annoying middle-aged looking guy who followed me and my friend around when we were cosplaying ponies (I was vinyl, she was Pinkie). I'm 18, and my costume could've been considered "sexy", so I'm not too upset about him following me. It's my own fault for wearing that.
But my friend is 15, and her costume was far from revealing. He kept following her saying "You've got a follower now, Pinkie" and that just creeped the hell out of my whole group.

Another thing is the use of the word "nya". It gets really annoying when someone says it after the end of EVERY sentence. You're not a real cat girl, so shut up.

Tell the guy to shove off and stop making minors uncomfortable, or let a yojimbo know. That's harassment and you shouldn't allow your group to put up with that.

[Tanuki19]

The one thing that pissed me off this con was when I was walking around as Dipper from Gravity Falls with my best friend as Mabel and people would go "HEY DIPPER, BEEN TO TACO BELL YET?" Now I have no freaking idea what the heck Dipper has to do with Taco Bell but I heard it comes from some really bad fanfic and but they were too embarrassed to tell me what it was about. At one point, some girl ran up to me, grabbed my hand while I was talking to my friends and was trying to shove something into it. I tried to yank my hand back but she was like "No, take it!" and I was still trying to yank my hand away while she tried to pry my fingers open and she kept saying "Just take it!" while I was like "No!". Eventually she got my hand open, shoved a Taco Bell sauce packet into it and ran away. I wanted to throw the packet back at her or throw it on the ground but I didn't want to litter so I just tossed it in the trash. All in all, it made me not want to wear Dipper anymore if people weren't going to see it as the cartoon and just some inappropriate fanfic. It seriously put a damper on my mood.

[Bresslol]

The one thing that pissed me off this con was when I was walking around as Dipper from Gravity Falls with my best friend as Mabel and people would go "HEY DIPPER, BEEN TO TACO BELL YET?" Now I have no freaking idea what the heck Dipper has to do with Taco Bell but I heard it comes from some really bad fanfic and but they were too embarrassed to tell me what it was about. At one point, some girl ran up to me, grabbed my hand while I was talking to my friends and was trying to shove something into it. I tried to yank my hand back but she was like "No, take it!" and I was still trying to yank my hand away while she tried to pry my fingers open and she kept saying "Just take it!" while I was like "No!". Eventually she got my hand open, shoved a Taco Bell sauce packet into it and ran away. I wanted to throw the packet back at her or throw it on the ground but I didn't want to litter so I just tossed it in the trash. All in all, it made me not want to wear Dipper anymore if people weren't going to see it as the cartoon and just some inappropriate fanfic. It seriously put a damper on my mood.

Also harassment. Tell a staffer. Don't be afraid to tell people off.

[bunny_jean]

The one thing that pissed me off this con was when I was walking around as Dipper from Gravity Falls with my best friend as Mabel and people would go "HEY DIPPER, BEEN TO TACO BELL YET?" Now I have no freaking idea what the heck Dipper has to do with Taco Bell but I heard it comes from some really bad fanfic and but they were too embarrassed to tell me what it was about. At one point, some girl ran up to me, grabbed my hand while I was talking to my friends and was trying to shove something into it. I tried to yank my hand back but she was like "No, take it!" and I was still trying to yank my hand away while she tried to pry my fingers open and she kept saying "Just take it!" while I was like "No!". Eventually she got my hand open, shoved a Taco Bell sauce packet into it and ran away. I wanted to throw the packet back at her or throw it on the ground but I didn't want to litter so I just tossed it in the trash. All in all, it made me not want to wear Dipper anymore if people weren't going to see it as the cartoon and just some inappropriate fanfic. It seriously put a damper on my mood.

Also harassment. Tell a staffer. Don't be afraid to tell people off.

^This. I'm never ashamed to talk loudly about rude people at con. Such as when people stop right in front of you to talk to the people they were walking with. I just say very loudly, "DON'T JUST STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HALL. STUPID PEOPLE."

[EveofAbyss]

The one thing that pissed me off this con was when I was walking around as Dipper from Gravity Falls with my best friend as Mabel and people would go "HEY DIPPER, BEEN TO TACO BELL YET?" Now I have no freaking idea what the heck Dipper has to do with Taco Bell but I heard it comes from some really bad fanfic and but they were too embarrassed to tell me what it was about. At one point, some girl ran up to me, grabbed my hand while I was talking to my friends and was trying to shove something into it. I tried to yank my hand back but she was like "No, take it!" and I was still trying to yank my hand away while she tried to pry my fingers open and she kept saying "Just take it!" while I was like "No!". Eventually she got my hand open, shoved a Taco Bell sauce packet into it and ran away. I wanted to throw the packet back at her or throw it on the ground but I didn't want to litter so I just tossed it in the trash. All in all, it made me not want to wear Dipper anymore if people weren't going to see it as the cartoon and just some inappropriate fanfic. It seriously put a damper on my mood.

Also harassment. Tell a staffer. Don't be afraid to tell people off.

^This. I'm never ashamed to talk loudly about rude people at con. Such as when people stop right in front of you to talk to the people they were walking with. I just say very loudly, "DON'T JUST STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HALL. STUPID PEOPLE."

I had this dilemma at Subway. Had been in line for about 10 minutes when three people walk in and completely disregard me and the 5 or 6 people behind me, and join their friends in front of me. Everything in me wanted to shout "You're really gonna do that? Hmm?" But I just held it in and let them have their cutsies. I was so torn though! Because on one hand, people need to be broken of their self-centered fixations and called out on their crap...but on the other hand, "the first shall be last and the last shall be first." I held my peace and bought my sandwich...but part of me was dying inside, lol.

[bunny_jean]

The one thing that pissed me off this con was when I was walking around as Dipper from Gravity Falls with my best friend as Mabel and people would go "HEY DIPPER, BEEN TO TACO BELL YET?" Now I have no freaking idea what the heck Dipper has to do with Taco Bell but I heard it comes from some really bad fanfic and but they were too embarrassed to tell me what it was about. At one point, some girl ran up to me, grabbed my hand while I was talking to my friends and was trying to shove something into it. I tried to yank my hand back but she was like "No, take it!" and I was still trying to yank my hand away while she tried to pry my fingers open and she kept saying "Just take it!" while I was like "No!". Eventually she got my hand open, shoved a Taco Bell sauce packet into it and ran away. I wanted to throw the packet back at her or throw it on the ground but I didn't want to litter so I just tossed it in the trash. All in all, it made me not want to wear Dipper anymore if people weren't going to see it as the cartoon and just some inappropriate fanfic. It seriously put a damper on my mood.

Also harassment. Tell a staffer. Don't be afraid to tell people off.

^This. I'm never ashamed to talk loudly about rude people at con. Such as when people stop right in front of you to talk to the people they were walking with. I just say very loudly, "DON'T JUST STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HALL. STUPID PEOPLE."

I had this dilemma at Subway. Had been in line for about 10 minutes when three people walk in and completely disregard me and the 5 or 6 people behind me, and join their friends in front of me. Everything in me wanted to shout "You're really gonna do that? Hmm?" But I just held it in and let them have their cutsies. I was so torn though! Because on one hand, people need to be broken of their self-centered fixations and called out on their crap...but on the other hand, "the first shall be last and the last shall be first." I held my peace and bought my sandwich...but part of me was dying inside, lol.

Yep. I don't have the patience for rude people in general though. lol

[@random]

There was this one really annoying middle-aged looking guy who followed me and my friend around when we were cosplaying ponies (I was vinyl, she was Pinkie). I'm 18, and my costume could've been considered "sexy", so I'm not too upset about him following me. It's my own fault for wearing that.
But my friend is 15, and her costume was far from revealing. He kept following her saying "You've got a follower now, Pinkie" and that just creeped the hell out of my whole group.

Another thing is the use of the word "nya". It gets really annoying when someone says it after the end of EVERY sentence. You're not a real cat girl, so shut up.

Tell the guy to shove off and stop making minors uncomfortable, or let a yojimbo know. That's harassment and you shouldn't allow your group to put up with that.

Also worth noting: Harassment or inappropriate behavior is not your fault, no matter what you're wearing.

Please do let a yojimbo (or any staffer, really, but the yojimbo are the best equipped to deal with it) know if something like that ever happens again.

[Bresslol]

How did this kitten get here?

[CaptnPoptart]

I have heard "Hey Girl Heyy" about a million times at the con this weekend. If I hear it one more time from someone, I will HURT them. Or something.

I don't understand why I saw about at least 3 different groups of cosplayers/friends running around and pushing a shopping cart. With other people in it. This didn't really irritate me, but just made me confused and annoyed a bit.

Also I was just hanging out with two other cosplayers in the grass next to Artist's Alley on Day 1. We were just drawing and talking a bit, and it was calm. Suddenly, one person in our group heard some other girl yelling about something. After a minute, I heard her too. Apparently, she was SCREAMING into her phone (I think to her friend) about her electronic neko ears breaking easily and not getting her money back. Also for the fact, she was just a couple of feet behind me. She did this for quite a number of minutes, the she might of stormed off somewhere. After she left, the two cosplayers and I felt uncomfortable and silent for a minute.

[Wrath-Chan19]

There was this one really annoying middle-aged looking guy who followed me and my friend around when we were cosplaying ponies (I was vinyl, she was Pinkie). I'm 18, and my costume could've been considered "sexy", so I'm not too upset about him following me. It's my own fault for wearing that.
But my friend is 15, and her costume was far from revealing. He kept following her saying "You've got a follower now, Pinkie" and that just creeped the hell out of my whole group.

Another thing is the use of the word "nya". It gets really annoying when someone says it after the end of EVERY sentence. You're not a real cat girl, so shut up.

Like random said, you it's not your fault for how you dress. And you tell them off and report them!  It is creepy that he would be following both of you, I mean you do look like a minor sometimes
"Nya" and other things like that can get annoying.

Also, I saw someone be extreamly rude to someone in a furry costume. I understand there is a dark side to furry fans but there is no need to be rude to someone you dont even know and that isnt doing anything wrong, just walking by. She held up her notebook in front of her face and said "eww furry" and the person in the costume sagged their shoulders down and looked visibly hurt (as far as I could tell because I couldn't see the face ) So I offered them a hug immediatly and told them I liked their costume because you know what? it was cute and they deserved to be respected.

That sucks, I mean I have a dislike of furries but I went to school with one and she was the sweetest girl I have ever met!

I was kinda out of the loop this year and luckily I ran into nice people. I will say the game is old! But it seems to be dying out. When someone lost it most people didn't react at all. Also I will ask GAMZEE (sp?) COSPLAYERS QUIT IT WITH THE HONKS ALL THE TIME! I get it's his thing but it really really bothersome to hear "honk honk honk" all the time.

Another thing that happened was that two of my friends were Prussia and Canada and they were walking around and some girls ran up to them and asked them to act out yaoi for them. Now the Canada is okay with PruCan but the Prussia actually hates it and neither of them wanted to make out with each other for some fangirls.

[Washougal_Otaku]

I don't understand why I saw about at least 3 different groups of cosplayers/friends running around and pushing a shopping cart. With other people in it. This didn't really irritate me, but just made me confused and annoyed a bit.

...really?  That happened?  *facepalms*

[Wrath-Chan19]

I don't understand why I saw about at least 3 different groups of cosplayers/friends running around and pushing a shopping cart. With other people in it. This didn't really irritate me, but just made me confused and annoyed a bit.

...really?  That happened?  *facepalms*

Oh yeah
I saw that
I am one who has small Panic attacks when things gets to chaotic and that freaked me out
It's also illegal to steal shopping charts (although who said they stole it) and somewhat dangerous.

[Runa]

I now believe that the absolute worst thing about the convention is: the "con-crud" (the achy, flu-like cold that many come home from con with) 
(I'm still feeling sore, tired, & achy....)

[CaptnPoptart]

I don't understand why I saw about at least 3 different groups of cosplayers/friends running around and pushing a shopping cart. With other people in it. This didn't really irritate me, but just made me confused and annoyed a bit.

...really?  That happened?  *facepalms*

Yupp. =n=; They were mostly Homestuck cosplayers too. The same thing happened with the wheelchairs. I saw a cosplayer pushing another in a wheelchair, so I thought "Ok they're in a wheelchair for a leg problem or something." But then I saw other cosplayers who cosplayed in the same series that were in wheelchairs too (Again, it was probably Homestuck.) and they would playfully and obnoxiously race with each other or almost crash into each other. I then started to think that they weren't injured e__e;; *facepalm*

[Kuri]

I get super annoyed by the people who want you to do crazy poses for them, then get really offended if you don't.

I'm really flattered that people want to take my picture, don't get me wrong. I always get a rush of pride that my hard word has gained admiration.

 However, when my infant is cosplaying with me, I'm not going to haul her up is it looks like she's flying, or hoist her on my shoulders when she's half asleep, of any other such thing.

When you take someone's picture, you're asking them a favor. They are not your camera monkey.

[Acheron]

I don't understand why I saw about at least 3 different groups of cosplayers/friends running around and pushing a shopping cart. With other people in it. This didn't really irritate me, but just made me confused and annoyed a bit.

...really?  That happened?  *facepalms*

Yupp. =n=; They were mostly Homestuck cosplayers too. The same thing happened with the wheelchairs. I saw a cosplayer pushing another in a wheelchair, so I thought "Ok they're in a wheelchair for a leg problem or something." But then I saw other cosplayers who cosplayed in the same series that were in wheelchairs too (Again, it was probably Homestuck.) and they would playfully and obnoxiously race with each other or almost crash into each other. I then started to think that they weren't injured e__e;; *facepalm*

Bleh, there was someone cosplaying the kid in the wheelchair who was just pushing their wheelchair around with their stuff in it, then hopping in it when people asked for pictures. Something about that, and everyone else pretending to be disabled, left a bad taste in my mouth.

Really, it's always a bit irksome when there's just one series dominating the others in cosplay, but it's especially annoying with Homestuck because the characters look more or less the same if you're not familiar with it. It's like... There's Black-Haired Kid with White Shirt, Blond Kid with White Shirt, Blond Kid with Red Shirt, and Black-Haired Kid with Facepaint and Horns, and that's it. Kind of like when Kingdom Hearts was popular and everyone was just cosplaying Person in Black Coat? FMA kind of had it too with Person in Blue Military Uniform.

[veraca]

I get super annoyed by the people who want you to do crazy poses for them, then get really offended if you don't.

I'm really flattered that people want to take my picture, don't get me wrong. I always get a rush of pride that my hard word has gained admiration.

 However, when my infant is cosplaying with me, I'm not going to haul her up is it looks like she's flying, or hoist her on my shoulders when she's half asleep, of any other such thing.

When you take someone's picture, you're asking them a favor. They are not your camera monkey.

They have no clue. If the child is sleeping you let the child sleep, especially in a con-area. You want all the breaks you can get and the kid really needs the rest. It's like, common rule. You don't wake a sleeping child. Ever. They cry and whine and won't do what you want. And those camera-holders don't have to deal with the upset crying that'll come after the photo and they've run away >>

[Washougal_Otaku]

I don't understand why I saw about at least 3 different groups of cosplayers/friends running around and pushing a shopping cart. With other people in it. This didn't really irritate me, but just made me confused and annoyed a bit.

...really?  That happened?  *facepalms*

Yupp. =n=; They were mostly Homestuck cosplayers too. The same thing happened with the wheelchairs. I saw a cosplayer pushing another in a wheelchair, so I thought "Ok they're in a wheelchair for a leg problem or something." But then I saw other cosplayers who cosplayed in the same series that were in wheelchairs too (Again, it was probably Homestuck.) and they would playfully and obnoxiously race with each other or almost crash into each other. I then started to think that they weren't injured e__e;; *facepalm*

Bleh, there was someone cosplaying the kid in the wheelchair who was just pushing their wheelchair around with their stuff in it, then hopping in it when people asked for pictures. Something about that, and everyone else pretending to be disabled, left a bad taste in my mouth.

Really, it's always a bit irksome when there's just one series dominating the others in cosplay, but it's especially annoying with Homestuck because the characters look more or less the same if you're not familiar with it. It's like... There's Black-Haired Kid with White Shirt, Blond Kid with White Shirt, Blond Kid with Red Shirt, and Black-Haired Kid with Facepaint and Horns, and that's it. Kind of like when Kingdom Hearts was popular and everyone was just cosplaying Person in Black Coat? FMA kind of had it too with Person in Blue Military Uniform.

I feel the same way about "L" cosplayers...

[SpaceCubaLikesConan]

I don't understand why I saw about at least 3 different groups of cosplayers/friends running around and pushing a shopping cart. With other people in it. This didn't really irritate me, but just made me confused and annoyed a bit.

...really?  That happened?  *facepalms*

Yupp. =n=; They were mostly Homestuck cosplayers too. The same thing happened with the wheelchairs. I saw a cosplayer pushing another in a wheelchair, so I thought "Ok they're in a wheelchair for a leg problem or something." But then I saw other cosplayers who cosplayed in the same series that were in wheelchairs too (Again, it was probably Homestuck.) and they would playfully and obnoxiously race with each other or almost crash into each other. I then started to think that they weren't injured e__e;; *facepalm*

Bleh, there was someone cosplaying the kid in the wheelchair who was just pushing their wheelchair around with their stuff in it, then hopping in it when people asked for pictures. Something about that, and everyone else pretending to be disabled, left a bad taste in my mouth.

Really, it's always a bit irksome when there's just one series dominating the others in cosplay, but it's especially annoying with Homestuck because the characters look more or less the same if you're not familiar with it. It's like... There's Black-Haired Kid with White Shirt, Blond Kid with White Shirt, Blond Kid with Red Shirt, and Black-Haired Kid with Facepaint and Horns, and that's it. Kind of like when Kingdom Hearts was popular and everyone was just cosplaying Person in Black Coat? FMA kind of had it too with Person in Blue Military Uniform.

That's what bugs me the most. Not only did Homestuck dominate everything else, but they were kinda over the top with the "getting into character" thing. They were obnoxious. And they all looked the same to me. Then again, I've never really liked it, so it just bugs me in general.

I was hoping some people in the Prometheus fandom would be there, but there was only me and one other person that noticed. *Facedesk.*

[Prinz Eugen]

Just my PERSONAL opinion - I was a little put off by the Homestuck stuff. Why not go invade PAX instead? IIRC that con was originally based on an on-line comic, so maybe Homestuck would fit in better with their focus - so go there?

I don't want to be slammed for steering membership away, but maybe getting a huge draw is just "Not All That," if a central theme is dissipated? Would Kumoricon at 4500 anime fans really be COOLER in the right way if we added 1000 Steampunk fans and had a Steampunk track added to the program? Or if we reached out to the aging, 55yro+ Star Trek Fan set, and the cult of The Blake Seven and other cheezy Brit SF TV of the 60s thru 90s? Red Dwarf? Or Monty Python Fandom? The Family Guy? Stargate SG-1?

Will Kumoricon devolve into just a general animation convention rather than anime?

OTOH, when Kcon was small we pretty much had to take whatever came, and whatever we could get. But are we yet big enough to do like a bloated red giant star? - that is - blow off all the extraneous stuff leaving behind a shining, concentrated neutron star - a smaller convention maybe, but even MORE strongly focused on Japanese animation, manga (the real stuff with kanji, katakana, and hirigana on the pages) and side topics like tea ceremony, ikebana, how to make a haori or hakama, comparative religion of Bhuddist vs Shinto expressions in Japan, historical topics like the Meiji Restoration, comparison of the battles of Sekigahara vs. Gettysburg, using the abacus, how to cook authentic Japanese foods with American store-bought materials and cookware but make it come out really looking like what's in a bento, kendo and iaido, bonsai, and Japanese sword making?

Or is this the same thing as what ski hills went through in the 1990s when all the "kids" kept showing up with snowboards instead of "real, traditional" skis - a sport that goes back centuries.


Although ski hills made the decision that to exclude snowboards would make skiing an aging, dying sport. Personally I don't think that enhanced focus on anime with a cogent but less than complete exclusion of its imitations would significantly handicap Kumoricon.

[Black~Rose]

Will Kumoricon devolve into just a general animation convention rather than anime?

OTOH, when Kcon was small we pretty much had to take whatever came, and whatever we could get. But are we yet big enough to do like a bloated red giant star? - that is - blow off all the extraneous stuff leaving behind a shining, concentrated neutron star - a smaller convention maybe, but even MORE strongly focused on Japanese animation, manga (the real stuff with kanji, katakana, and hirigana on the pages) and side topics like tea ceremony, ikebana, how to make a haori or hakama, comparative religion of Bhuddist vs Shinto expressions in Japan, historical topics like the Meiji Restoration, comparison of the battles of Sekigahara vs. Gettysburg, using the abacus, how to cook authentic Japanese foods with American store-bought materials and cookware but make it come out really looking like what's in a bento, kendo and iaido, bonsai, and Japanese sword making?

I'm sorry.. But that is extremely narrow minded and I have to say something because it pushed a tick button. I think because we are IN AMERICA and a lot of people happen to be fans of more than just Japanese anime / manga that cosplaying from something other than a Japanese comic should not be looked down upon. The only con thats affordable and close to the area should not be so discriminating! We are all geeks. I don't think Japan even has conventions that focus only on one countries pop culture. Calling it devolving is so discriminatory and condescending to everyone, including myself, who actually likes to cosplay characters from american companies. Dont get me wrong I love Japan, I myself am a quarter Japanese and I adore my Japanese family, but there is more than just Japanese when it comes to nerd fandom. That kind of ever so slightly racist elitism will only serve to drive con-goers away.

[Washougal_Otaku]

focused on Japanese animation, manga (the real stuff with kanji, katakana, and hirigana on the pages) and side topics like tea ceremony, ikebana, how to make a haori or hakama, comparative religion of Bhuddist vs Shinto expressions in Japan, historical topics like the Meiji Restoration, comparison of the battles of Sekigahara vs. Gettysburg, using the abacus, how to cook authentic Japanese foods with American store-bought materials and cookware but make it come out really looking like what's in a bento, kendo and iaido, bonsai, and Japanese sword making?

I think it would be AMZING if we could do stuff like this!  I kinda want to do a bunch of research on one of these (or similar) subjects in preparation for 2013... but what...?  Hmm...

[Rathany]

We aren't reaching out the Homestuck people and going 'Come here!'  They are choosing what feels like a good place for them to hang and Kcon seems like the welcoming place with like-minded people.  Please don't assume that the Homestuck people aren't here because they aren't also anime fans.  A lot of anime fans like Doctor Who and a lot of Doctor Who fans like anime.  Don't assume that the TARDIS in the corner isn't here for the manga library and Pokemon tournies.  

Our focus is anime.  We shouldn't control what our attendees like to cosplay outside of certain things involving obscenity.  

That said, we currently lack a general nerdery/geekery con here in Portland, but we have ~4 contenders on the horizon.  Until one gets traction, we are naturally going to draw the meetups and stuff because we are both the largest area con and are generally full of awesome and welcoming people.  

[ObiJay]

Just my PERSONAL opinion - I was a little put off by the Homestuck stuff. Why not go invade PAX instead? IIRC that con was originally based on an on-line comic, so maybe Homestuck would fit in better with their focus - so go there?

I don't want to be slammed for steering membership away, but maybe getting a huge draw is just "Not All That," if a central theme is dissipated? Would Kumoricon at 4500 anime fans really be COOLER in the right way if we added 1000 Steampunk fans and had a Steampunk track added to the program? Or if we reached out to the aging, 55yro+ Star Trek Fan set, and the cult of The Blake Seven and other cheezy Brit SF TV of the 60s thru 90s? Red Dwarf? Or Monty Python Fandom? The Family Guy? Stargate SG-1?

Will Kumoricon devolve into just a general animation convention rather than anime?

OTOH, when Kcon was small we pretty much had to take whatever came, and whatever we could get. But are we yet big enough to do like a bloated red giant star? - that is - blow off all the extraneous stuff leaving behind a shining, concentrated neutron star - a smaller convention maybe, but even MORE strongly focused on Japanese animation, manga (the real stuff with kanji, katakana, and hirigana on the pages) and side topics like tea ceremony, ikebana, how to make a haori or hakama, comparative religion of Bhuddist vs Shinto expressions in Japan, historical topics like the Meiji Restoration, comparison of the battles of Sekigahara vs. Gettysburg, using the abacus, how to cook authentic Japanese foods with American store-bought materials and cookware but make it come out really looking like what's in a bento, kendo and iaido, bonsai, and Japanese sword making?

Or is this the same thing as what ski hills went through in the 1990s when all the "kids" kept showing up with snowboards instead of "real, traditional" skis - a sport that goes back centuries.


Although ski hills made the decision that to exclude snowboards would make skiing an aging, dying sport. Personally I don't think that enhanced focus on anime with a cogent but less than complete exclusion of its imitations would significantly handicap Kumoricon.

Well PAX tends to sell out pretty quick, so for a lot of folks don't have that as an option. The truth of the matter is, it's attitudes like this that are slowly killing a lot of conventions. Yes KumoriCon is at it's heart an anime con, and always will be. But you know what? Anime is not the huge draw it once was. There hasn't been a huge breakaway hit here or in Japan since what? Naruto, Bleach, FMA? Yeah, think back to when those shows first premiered. They are old now, some ended and some on the verge of it. I still do anime and videogame cosplay, but my big focus now is my steampunk. There's an audience for it, because I made a killing in the Artist's Alley with the homemade jewelry and accessories my wife and I sell, and I know Mac (steambaby) always does well in exhibitor's halls with his gorgeous, high end goggles. The Homestuck fans that I interacted with were perfectly pleasant and just having a good time like the rest of us. Now I know absolutely jack about Homestuck, but I'm not going to let it ruin my fun. I remember when I was getting this same kind of attitude for bringing videogame cosplay to cons. I've been a gamer since my dad put an Atari 2600 joystick in my hands at 3, and dove headfirst into anime when I caught Vampire Hunter D on TBS one Saturday night at 13. That was over 20 years ago now. I still love it, I still love the cons, but it's to the point where it has to adapt or at least accept this new stuff, or it dies.

I really hope that this opinion isn't prevalent in the higher levels of staff, because it is the guaranteed way to alienate what was the BEST turn out for Kumori in its 10 year history. I've loved this con since my first attendance in downtown Portland all those years ago, and I'd hate to see it go down in the flames of elitism. I'm totally with Black~Rose on this (who posted as I was typing this up)

[bunny_jean]

To be honest, I don't like how many Homestucks there were this year, but there's nothing anybody can do about it. You can't dictate what people wear, whether it's to a con or elsewhere. I think the reason there were so many Homestuck cosplayers this year is that it has a huge fanbase and the costumes are really freaking easy. Horns, T-shirt, bodypaint (good or bad), good to go. These people are probably fans of other things, video games, anime, Doctor Who, whatever, but they probably choose not to cosplay from these because the recognizable characters are harder to cosplay.

I dunno, just my two cents.

[Wrath-Chan19]

I don't understand why I saw about at least 3 different groups of cosplayers/friends running around and pushing a shopping cart. With other people in it. This didn't really irritate me, but just made me confused and annoyed a bit.

...really?  That happened?  *facepalms*

Yupp. =n=; They were mostly Homestuck cosplayers too. The same thing happened with the wheelchairs. I saw a cosplayer pushing another in a wheelchair, so I thought "Ok they're in a wheelchair for a leg problem or something." But then I saw other cosplayers who cosplayed in the same series that were in wheelchairs too (Again, it was probably Homestuck.) and they would playfully and obnoxiously race with each other or almost crash into each other. I then started to think that they weren't injured e__e;; *facepalm*

Oh boy, I had a wheelchair for a cosplay once. But I made sure to be safe respectful and never abuse the rights that came with it. Sadly not everyone is that smart.

Eugen, I will just say this. Yes we are an Anime convention, our contests, guests, and panels try to stay in the realm of Anime/Manga/Japanese/Gaming culture. But we are all nerds in the end! Kumoricon has become a bit like a second family to me, I've been able to come out about so much, how nerdy I am, My sexuality and who I am as a person thanks to this con. I don't want to be pushed away because I deiced to wear my Once-ler costume for a day because it's comfy or wanna talk about My Little Pony.
A guy on day 0 in the  reg line started complaining about how my friends were dressed up from Doctor Who and I believe they were a bit hurt. Ask yourself this, "Is Kumoricon about hurting people?"

My biggest problem about Homestuck is it just bothers me, I've tried to give it a chance and I like somethings about it but overall I just get annoyed by everything.
Sadly I can't change that

[reppy]

I didn't find myself annoyed by it, but I did find myself musing with other attendees how a lot of the most popular cosplays aren't even anime anymore.

To me, it was a sign that North American animators are finally starting to understand that hey, older folk like animation, too! (What else was there before: Heavy Metal, The Wizard, and Fritz the Cat?)

Anyway, I do understand both sides of the "but does it belong at an anime convention?"  It's a touchy subject, that's for sure!

[veraca]

It is insanely touchy, and granted Japan hasn't put out anything crowd-pulling in a while (Naruto, Bleach, FMA), even though it's had some small hits (ie. Death Note). But when you think about what you're going to cosplay you think about how long you're going to wear it and how comfortable it may or may not be. It's why some girls change out of their costumes, or opt for flats instead of heels. It's why some prefer to wear a costume with jeans and a T (like Homestuck), even if it means a bit of uncomfortableness (horns and the bodypaint); It's overall comfortable. And yes, Kumoricon is welcoming to it. I never saw anyone jumping into the Homestuck photoshoot thread and putting a stop to it. Likewise to the My Little Pony thread. If people are so bothered by it, they should look at their own decisions and keep in mind that fans will wear what they want.

Sure, I was put off that so many weren't in costumes I could recognize this year, but that made those that I did know all the more gems to me. And really, if you take everyone who was wearing Naruto, Bleach, MLP, FMA and Homestuck and lumped them together, they're kind of equal. It might die down in a year or two, like the others, and they'll be cosplaying something else they enjoy.

However, it will also "die" if we continue to present an attitude of being offended and unwelcoming to these fellow con-goers, no matter the reason they attend.

[reppy]

Yep. Lure 'em in and get 'em hooked on anime. 

[RobinOfLocksley]

I didn't find myself annoyed by it, but I did find myself musing with other attendees how a lot of the most popular cosplays aren't even anime anymore.

To me, it was a sign that North American animators are finally starting to understand that hey, older folk like animation, too! (What else was there before: Heavy Metal, The Wizard, and Fritz the Cat?)

Anyway, I do understand both sides of the "but does it belong at an anime convention?"  It's a touchy subject, that's for sure!

It's so silly that it IS a touchy subject. If they want to get technical about it though, anime is just Japan's word for animation, or cartoons. In Japan, anything animated is called anime. Hell, Family Guy would be called anime. So therefore video games, American cartoons, any cartoons, and anything else that is animated is anime.

Can you hear that? It's the collective moans of indignant and weeping weeaboo. I love that sound. It's like crack to me, except without the felony charges.

[princess_of_zeal]

On the current subject, you know, as long as people are having a good time (while being safe, following laws and etc.) I don't mind what people dress up as.  They have enough passion to dress up as someone they like and that is what counts to me.

[JeffT]

It's so silly that it IS a touchy subject. If they want to get technical about it though, anime is just Japan's word for animation, or cartoons. In Japan, anything animated is called anime. Hell, Family Guy would be called anime. So therefore video games, American cartoons, any cartoons, and anything else that is animated is anime.

And "anime" is American English's word for Japanese animation, which phrase Kumoricon's statement of purpose uses anyway.

Can you hear that? It's the collective moans of indignant and weeping weeaboo. I love that sound. It's like crack to me, except without the felony charges.

Maybe it's the sound of 4750 attendees.

[RobinOfLocksley]

And "anime" is American English's word for Japanese animation, which phrase Kumoricon's statement of purpose uses anyway.

Pffft, tell that to the weeaboo who want to punch me in the face every time I say it wrong. Lol. Not that it really matters. People who legitimately get upset over whether someone is wearing a costume from a "non-Japanese anime" to a convention of fellow nerds and dorks would just find some other ridiculous thing to be upset about if it wasn't that.
I think the princess of zeal hit it pretty close to the mark. People are just there to have fun. Usually.

[bunny_jean]

Uhhhh "anime" is the Japanese word for animation. Not the "American English's word for Japanese animation." That's how American's use it, but that's not what the word is. Seems like splitting hairs, but it's not an American word, which is what your statement sounds like to me. "Japanime" was the American word for Japanese animation until Americans picked up "anime."

[ObiJay]

I admit, I still sometimes use Japanimation for s#$@s and giggles.

[brossiya]

It's beginning to look like the point of "inclusiveness" and "exclusiveness" in this thread has sort of been beaten to death. Maybe we can shift gears to something else more benign but still aggravating?

Standing in lines when your feet already hurt. Sometimes unavoidable and just kind of comes with the territory, but still really annoying.

[Wrath-Chan19]

You are right!

spending most of my money on food bugged me this year

[EveofAbyss]

Every meal standing around with friends debating where to go to eat for 40 minutes before settling for Subway. Every meal we did this, except when we went to Plaid Pantry instead.

So being indecisive with a group of indecisive people, haha.

[Chibiorochimaru]

Every meal standing around with friends debating where to go to eat for 40 minutes before settling for Subway. Every meal we did this, except when we went to Plaid Pantry instead.

So being indecisive with a group of indecisive people, haha.

This xDD so much.

[JeffT]

Uhhhh "anime" is the Japanese word for animation. Not the "American English's word for Japanese animation." That's how American's use it, but that's not what the word is. Seems like splitting hairs, but it's not an American word, which is what your statement sounds like to me. "Japanime" was the American word for Japanese animation until Americans picked up "anime."

It is indeed an American word also. It's a loanword, like many American English words. It's in American English dictionaries.

"Anime", when spoken in English among Americans, universally is understood to mean Japanese animation. It is universally understood not to include things like The Simpsons, My Little Pony, and Snow White. You can quibble about the boundaries (for example, does heavily Japanese-inspired, but American-produced, shows count; or do shows like Transformers, ThunderCats, and The Animatrix count). You can argue that the word shouldn't have evolved in the past to mean this, but the fact is that it did, rightly or wrongly.

The point was made in this thread in an attempt to show that Kumoricon must therefore be a convention about all animation. It's clear that the vast, overwhelming majority of founders and current staff understand Kumoricon to be focused on Japanese animation. (Some may want that to change, but that's different than trying to argue that really Kumoricon is currently and has always been just about all animation.) One can't change that by pointing out the origin of the word "anime", or what it means when spoken in Japanese in Japan.

[reppy]

Every meal standing around with friends debating where to go to eat for 40 minutes before settling for Subway. Every meal we did this, except when we went to Plaid Pantry instead.

So being indecisive with a group of indecisive people, haha.

This xDD so much.

Ugh. I know that feeling. Even worse when it takes me forever to get up an appetite, and then I eat.. and I'm not hungry again for another 6 hours but everyone else wants to go eat. XD

You are right!

spending most of my money on food bugged me this year

I probably spent $120 or so on food for two people.. and I didn't even eat anywhere good!  Even just going in to Subway would run me $12-14 for 2 people.

[Wrath-Chan19]

You are right!

spending most of my money on food bugged me this year

I probably spent $120 or so on food for two people.. and I didn't even eat anywhere good!  Even just going in to Subway would run me $12-14 for 2 people.

I had a $100 and ended up with $25
I also had to buy my friends food so they would eat for their own good

[EveofAbyss]

5 dollar foot long, Reppy! Lol

[reppy]

5 dollar foot long, Reppy! Lol

I made a couple Burger Ville trips, too. >_>;  That ain't cheap!

And I started Saturday off with McDonald's breakfast, which somehow ended up costing me like $13-14!

So I mean really.. you figure 3 meals a day... for 2 people... at $13-14 each... Plus drinks and the occasional snack from Plaid Pantry...

Ugh, I'm getting sick just thinking about it. XD

[DSaturn]

The only thing that bothered me about the homstuck cosplayer (other than the few who were acting irresponsible) was the fact that there was so many of them and since i dont know it they all look the same... i like seeing varity. I think last year, death the kid was the killer in multitudes

[reppy]

The only thing that bothered me about the homstuck cosplayer (other than the few who were acting irresponsible) was the fact that there was so many of them and since i dont know it they all look the same... i like seeing varity. I think last year, death the kid was the killer in multitudes

There is always at least a handful of series that dominate.  When Death Note was big, you couldn't go more than a few feet without bumping into an L or Light cosplayer.  Same with Naruto.  And Ouran Host Club.  Hetalia the last couple of years?! 

I don't really know much about Homestuck.  It seems like it could be interesting enough, but the fact that there is so much content seems a little daunting.

How I was able to get myself interested in it was to realize that while the cosplays may appear simple enough, they are very visually striking.  And that made them fun for me to look at, even if I didn't know the series! ^__^

[EveofAbyss]

Another annoying thing about conventions, all those pesky pictures! Gosh, I mean... I can't walk five feet without someone asking for my picture. What a nuisance!!

[reppy]

Another annoying thing about conventions, all those pesky pictures! Gosh, I mean... I can't walk five feet without someone asking for my picture. What a nuisance!!

*looks at EveOfAbyss' avatar*

*remembers he took the picture*

Sorry to have bothered you, sir!

[Washougal_Otaku]

The only thing that bothered me about the homstuck cosplayer (other than the few who were acting irresponsible) was the fact that there was so many of them and since i dont know it they all look the same... i like seeing varity. I think last year, death the kid was the killer in multitudes

I'm not even sure what Death the Kid is, but I agree with your point. Too much of the same series, or even the same character, can be a bit dull, especially for those that aren't too fond of such a particular series *COUGHblackbutlerCOUGH* Still, for me, I just try to enjoy what I enjoy, whether others do or not.

[chelseahavoc]

;-; what i dont like is PEOPLE COSPLAYING A CHAR TO "FIT IN"  >.< please please please make your self familer with the show/anime/ect >.< i was super said that 2 TWO!!!!!!!!!!!  of the mountains of black butler cosplayers knew who i was.

granted a few non-bb people knew who i was cuz they're fans of the show. and they made me very happy.

but im SO VERY TIRED of people cosplaying something to be part of a group. come on guys cosplay something you actually love! >.<

just had to get that out there....

[EveofAbyss]

Absolutely. I'm going to make myself infamous saying this, but...

I don't really acknowledge cosplayers who do it strictly for popularity's sake. The ones who cosplay characters they love, characters from series they actually know and enjoy, that's real cosplay to me. But I'm getting into dangerous territory, so I'll just zip my lip for a while. 

[Wrath-Chan19]

;-; what i dont like is PEOPLE COSPLAYING A CHAR TO "FIT IN"  >.< please please please make your self familer with the show/anime/ect >.< i was super said that 2 TWO!!!!!!!!!!!  of the mountains of black butler cosplayers knew who i was.

granted a few non-bb people knew who i was cuz they're fans of the show. and they made me very happy.

but im SO VERY TIRED of people cosplaying something to be part of a group. come on guys cosplay something you actually love! >.<

just had to get that out there....

I will say that sometimes you would do it for a friend, I had friends who would be my Henry who never played Silent Hill for me.

[EveofAbyss]

I think that's very different though. The motivation is doing it for a friend, or for a friend's group. It isn't the advantageous attention-seeking of cosplaying something you know nothing about, but know is wildly popular. Cosplaying something just because you know everyone will adore you is, to me, not a valid reason. It's on par with fashion and just reeks too much of superficiality and manipulation.

[chelseahavoc]

^ this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this

sure for a friend is one thing or like a child to be with their parents or a new comer in your group.... ughhhhhhhh

its really bothering me more then it should it makes me feel like a little butt-hurt person but my goodness. i up and left the photoshoot for it because i felt like it was mostly attention seekers "oh hey every one knows that im sebastian everyones gonna love me" no. bad. come here i need to squirt you with this spray bottle.... bad kitty

[EveofAbyss]

It's just like... are you capable of actually liking a character? What anime do you actually enjoy? It's just hard not to question someone's "nerditude" when you see that little-by-little they are just cosplaying for the attention and don't know much about... anything, lol.

[brossiya]

It's just like... are you capable of actually liking a character? What anime do you actually enjoy? It's just hard not to question someone's "nerditude" when you see that little-by-little they are just cosplaying for the attention and don't know much about... anything, lol.

I'd like to add that it's also kind of annoying when people just throw on normal clothes and say that they're "casual whoever", then get upset when you don't see it or recognize them on the spot as that character. It's one thing if the character actually has a canon casual outfit that's just kind of uncommon to see worn (sometimes outfits are just from an obscure portion of the series) and they're wearing that, that's completely different, but when it's just "oh, I guess they might wear the clothes in my wardrobe and I'll put on a wig" then it's a little irritating.

There are some people I've seen put together amazing "casual" cosplays, but most of the ones I see are kind of... half-baked at best. Unfortunately, that rings of elitism now that I say it and it leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. Oh well, food for thought in the end, I guess.

Then again, there are those that can't really afford to buy a new cosplay or make it so in the end, it's a case-by-case basis of whether it's within someone's means or if someone is being lazy.

[reppy]

I know lots of people will do a "casual" version, especially if it's really hot outside or it's Monday.

I have no issue with this.  But getting mad at people for not recognizing it?  Chill pill, yo. XD

[superjaz]

I think that's very different though. The motivation is doing it for a friend, or for a friend's group. It isn't the advantageous attention-seeking of cosplaying something you know nothing about, but know is wildly popular. Cosplaying something just because you know everyone will adore you is, to me, not a valid reason. It's on par with fashion and just reeks too much of superficiality and manipulation.

I getcha.
Tho nice thing about con ya find peeps who get ya,
I wore a mpd psycho human flower pot costume (brain hat with a flower in it) that I liked but is pretty obscure, lost peeps though it was a plants vs zombies reffernce, but some people got it, heck said I made their day, I was stoked people reconized it, esp since its from vol of a manga, and an episode of a mini series

[hikaru_maxwell]

Just my PERSONAL opinion - I was a little put off by the Homestuck stuff. Why not go invade PAX instead? IIRC that con was originally based on an on-line comic, so maybe Homestuck would fit in better with their focus - so go there?

I don't want to be slammed for steering membership away, but maybe getting a huge draw is just "Not All That," if a central theme is dissipated? Would Kumoricon at 4500 anime fans really be COOLER in the right way if we added 1000 Steampunk fans and had a Steampunk track added to the program? Or if we reached out to the aging, 55yro+ Star Trek Fan set, and the cult of The Blake Seven and other cheezy Brit SF TV of the 60s thru 90s? Red Dwarf? Or Monty Python Fandom? The Family Guy? Stargate SG-1?

Will Kumoricon devolve into just a general animation convention rather than anime?

OTOH, when Kcon was small we pretty much had to take whatever came, and whatever we could get. But are we yet big enough to do like a bloated red giant star? - that is - blow off all the extraneous stuff leaving behind a shining, concentrated neutron star - a smaller convention maybe, but even MORE strongly focused on Japanese animation, manga (the real stuff with kanji, katakana, and hirigana on the pages) and side topics like tea ceremony, ikebana, how to make a haori or hakama, comparative religion of Bhuddist vs Shinto expressions in Japan, historical topics like the Meiji Restoration, comparison of the battles of Sekigahara vs. Gettysburg, using the abacus, how to cook authentic Japanese foods with American store-bought materials and cookware but make it come out really looking like what's in a bento, kendo and iaido, bonsai, and Japanese sword making?

Or is this the same thing as what ski hills went through in the 1990s when all the "kids" kept showing up with snowboards instead of "real, traditional" skis - a sport that goes back centuries.


Although ski hills made the decision that to exclude snowboards would make skiing an aging, dying sport. Personally I don't think that enhanced focus on anime with a cogent but less than complete exclusion of its imitations would significantly handicap Kumoricon.

This ties into my pet peeve: anime 'purists' who want an anime convention that is...well....BORING. I fully admit that I was one of the 'homestucks' at this convention, though I only climbed into that cosplay on the last day. I do plenty of other cosplay, including but not limited to anime (hetalia, tsubasa, gundam, reborn), british sci-fi (dr who), japanese superhero -tokusatsu- (kamen rider, super sentai), american superhero (power rangers), video games (vocaloid, kingdom hearts, dynasty warriors), webcomics (homestuck), and even mainstream movies or books (like hunger games and harry potter). People who think they can dictate what costume I can wear to which convention, or look down on me for cosplaying something that isn't "strictly anime" kind of tick me off. I love japanese culture, so much I bothered to learn the language, look up the history, try to understand the culture. But a convention only based on japan, and refuses to let itself grow, instead choosing to stagnate instead of adapt with the times. A convention like that would be too boring for me, and I wouldn't remotely be willing to bay 1000+ USD to fly there every year, or convince my other friends here in Oklahoma to fly there with me.

[veraca]

Holy ***, you guys, 125$ for food the whole weekend? That's my whole weekend budget. The 125$ for the con is gas (40$) and 40$ to buy stuff, and the rest is for food. But I always always buy food before the con. I come with my own pack of food, and carry water with me I ate at Subway once and it topped at around 7$. That's always been my rule.

However, I'm also tiny but I have a fast metabolism. I'm hungry every 2 hours, so while I am okay on this kind of food, I am always with a hungry stomach. Mostly because it's impossible to tote around the kinds of foods I need to keep that "full" feeling for longer then 30 minutes.

And speaking up to Hikaru, above me, It'd be nice if we could have Japanese history or something lessons. Not everyone has the time to learn these things in schools or freetime, or just don't understand it or have issues putting it together. If a panel or two was based around the historical history dating from 20k to present day (well not history if it's that early, but it's interesting to me lol) then yay. Even just one panel about the Japanese pottery (I can't name it at the moment) would be fascinating and I would go to sit in on it certainly.

[RobinOfLocksley]

I couldn't seem to walk ten feet at the con without running into some weirdo with candycorn coming out of his head. Homestuck cosplays were like the zubats and rattatas of the con. I'm not ripping on homestuck, since I really don't know much about it other than that it bores me, I just thought it was annoying to see like a thousand people "in costume" either wearing T-shirts with simple thingies on them, or painted weird colors with candycorn popping out of their heads.

Am I alone in this?

[hikaru_maxwell]

Since you don't know much about Homestuck, you shouldn't be ripping on the costumes when the characters in homestuck really ARE kids with 'simple' but SPECIFIC thingies painted on their shirts, with very specifically shaped candy-corn-like horns on their heads. Alot of the ones who cosplay the trolls go to alot of trouble to make their skin the right color, buying cream and body paint (sometimes even buying a kind they are unaware of a previous allergy to, like the troll in our group), staying up nights sewing cosplay (you think those symbols paint/sew themselves on?), crafting horns out of modeling clay or even plushie fabric, burning themselves with hot-glue or stabbing themselves with needles accidentally, not to mention making all the accessories like the fabulous broken swords, turntables, guns, more guns, double tridents, etc.

Alot of work can go into a deceptively simple looking cosplay. People who bash those cosplays for not being "cosplay enough" really tend to push my lecture button. -_-;;;;;

[Acheron]

(you think those symbols paint/sew themselves on?)

Not trying to be flippant, but doesn't the author sell official t-shirts for all the characters...?

[Washougal_Otaku]

I'd like to add that it's also kind of annoying when people just throw on normal clothes and say that they're "casual whoever", then get upset when you don't see it or recognize them on the spot as that character. It's one thing if the character actually has a canon casual outfit that's just kind of uncommon to see worn (sometimes outfits are just from an obscure portion of the series) and they're wearing that, that's completely different, but when it's just "oh, I guess they might wear the clothes in my wardrobe and I'll put on a wig" then it's a little irritating.

I kind of had that feeling with my casual Michiru (Sailor Neptune) this year, but also expected it.  Even though the dress and hat weren't "normal" for her, they did fit her taste.  Plus, I still had her hair, and for the people who knew/recognized me, they knew who I was supposed to have been.  (What's really weird about that, though, is that I had more people remember my first Sailor Neptune appearance when I was male raver Pinkie Pie than casual Michiru...).

[Wrath-Chan19]

I couldn't seem to walk ten feet at the con without running into some weirdo with candycorn coming out of his head. Homestuck cosplays were like the zubats and rattatas of the con. I'm not ripping on homestuck, since I really don't know much about it other than that it bores me, I just thought it was annoying to see like a thousand people "in costume" either wearing T-shirts with simple thingies on them, or painted weird colors with candycorn popping out of their heads.

Am I alone in this?

I will agree with Hikaru on this, I may hate Homestuck but my friends do put a lot of effort into their costumes. One spent a good amount of time in my bath trying to scrub off her body paint after Day 0 it still wasn't completely off and effort into her Tavros (Sp?) horns. Another made her Lil' Cal costume herself and I know she doesn't have much crafting experince. I also made a easy costume (Female Walter) but you know what it didn't matter that it was made that morning. I love Walter Sullivan and I loved being a fem version!

[Washougal_Otaku]

I couldn't seem to walk ten feet at the con without running into some weirdo with candycorn coming out of his head. Homestuck cosplays were like the zubats and rattatas of the con. I'm not ripping on homestuck, since I really don't know much about it other than that it bores me, I just thought it was annoying to see like a thousand people "in costume" either wearing T-shirts with simple thingies on them, or painted weird colors with candycorn popping out of their heads.

Am I alone in this?

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks the characters have candy corn on their heads...

[Raveen92]

I found annoying as cosplaying Excalibur is that after each round of Photos (I had a lot taken) I'd give a shout out to anyone want pictures. I take literally three step and get a requests for about 5 more pictures... Swinging a 25 lb head isn't easy to put on every other second, my arms are almost done healing from a riddle of bruises from carrying the thing.

[Bresslol]

I just want to point out the irony of Homestuck cosplay complaints in that I'm pretty sure we were all complaining about the major prevalence of Hetalia (anime!) cosplayers a year or two ago.

[ObiJay]

And before that it was Naruto, so on and so forth. It's always going to be something, and I've been doing this long enough that I remember getting heat for wearing NON JAPANAESE VIDYA COSPLAY to a con.

[veraca]

Again guys, it just shows what people are into at the time and they feel comfortable enough to wear it at the con. That said, like Naruto and Bleach and all the others, it will die down in cosplaying to a degree. And some things come back. We have a significant amount of more Disney cosplayers then we had in years past and I don't hear anyone busting their chops about "omg I saw two Belles at this con! what the heck is going on?! that's not from Japan". Sure it's way less in amount of cosplayers, but what if next con we have as many people who were in Homestuck are all in Disney costume.

What if, hmm, it comes down to a character they like and weren't able to do it years ago and are now able to do? Or just that they started a thread asking if others were going to cosplay from that same fandom, and they're excited that so many others are a fan and willing to cosplay the fandom also. Isn't that good thing?
They can make friends through commonality. Isn't that one of the basic ideas of what a convention is?

[TanisNikana]

Cosplay is another thing that is not immune to trends. Trending is a fact of life.

2007: Ouran High School Host Club.
2011: Hetalia
2012: Homestuck

[bunny_jean]

Sure it's way less in amount of cosplayers, but what if next con we have as many people who were in Homestuck are all in Disney costume.

If this happened I'd be pretty happy, because I've never been to Disney Land.

[shikyo]

People complaining...

[DSaturn]

I'm annoyed every year about whatever the trend is, even if I happen to absolutely love the show/thing that the cosplays come from. I always go home thinking, "Geez, why were there so many *blank* cosplayers", But, like was said, trends are a part of life and it's a fun thing to look for every year. "What's going to be over played this year?"

[TanisNikana]

Oraemo will be overplayed next year. Calling this one in advance.

[EveofAbyss]

Oraemo will be overplayed next year. Calling this one in advance.

Oreimo, the new Dark Horse manga? Yeah... man, that's 10 bucks I should have thought harder about spending. Pretty disappointed with that one.

[TanisNikana]

I'm just saying that some folks were drooling pretty hard over it. Personally, I wanna see more cosplayers from Manly Guys Doing Manly Things, myself...

[princess_of_zeal]

I'm annoyed every year about whatever the trend is, even if I happen to absolutely love the show/thing that the cosplays come from. I always go home thinking, "Geez, why were there so many *blank* cosplayers", But, like was said, trends are a part of life and it's a fun thing to look for every year. "What's going to be over played this year?"

Highschool of the Dead.  <.< >.>  (My guess)  I'm only saying this because I'm going as Saeko to Sakura-Con and I've heard lots of people talking about going as other characters.

[That_Guy]

Working at Reg for a few years, one of the interesting things about the job is when you print the badges, after awhile you can see the trend of what's the "in thing" with cosplayers or whatever by looking at the badge names.

We knew that Hetalia was not as popular this year like in 2011 but Black Butler was what we saw was the big thing until I found out what Homestuck was at con and looking back realized it was the number 1 choice in badge names this year.

I should be able to find out what's the next big theme is for 2013 by mid March.

[princess_of_zeal]

Working at Reg for a few years, one of the interesting things about the job is when you print the badges, after awhile you can see the trend of what's the "in thing" with cosplayers or whatever by looking at the badge names.

We knew that Hetalia was not as popular this year like in 2011 but Black Butler was what we saw was the big thing until I found out what Homestuck was at con and looking back realized it was the number 1 choice in badge names this year.

I should be able to find out what's the next big theme is for 2013 by mid March.

Oooo!  You should let us know!

[iceytina]

Ok, someone like me, who, honestly, is just pathetically out of touch with Anime and Manga, had an amazing time because I was not familiar with most cosplays. I just loved to see all the effort people made with their cosplays, redundant or not.... however.... it's taxing to read 24 pages of complaints (funny though too) and I'm probably repeating people here but... the more the merrier?

1. People standing in halls wanting hugs, with or without signs (that Chii last year in the hall wanting hugs creeped me out).

2. Rude, space-shoving people. Please remember, the world does not revolve around you. And if you're really rude (shoving and just plain ignoring people) about your space, I'll be tempted to "drop a hint" to you in some manner.

3. Self-involved, shallow people who think they are glamorous. C'mon. It's been said a lot already -- cosPLAY. You don't have to 'have the body type' to cosplay.

4. People who try to break cosplay rules. I saw this neko-ish girl in line for the exhibit hall in the Red Lion, and her behind was half-showing. No tights. Nothing covering it. It was just all gloriously out there. The rest of her costume was quite... revealing. How did she get past the rules on THAT?

5. People who only notice others based upon their cosplay. I was talking to a girl waiting for the ball, and she and her friend told me how weird, and unsettling, it was for them. In costume, they were really popular; when they got out of the costume, people disregarded them so much, some were even bumping into them. How rude...

6. Panels where you wonder, how did this panel get accepted? ...

7. Hearing this type of thing: "WHEN I WAS IN JAPAN..." "IN JAPAN THEY..." "I KNOW HIRAGANA/KATAKANA/KANJI" "MY JAPANESE FRIEND SAID" "I'M GOING TO JAPAN NEXT MONTH". Ok. You like Japan in some manner. Obviously. I mean, you're at an Anime con... no one really cares about all that Japanese stuff you know (or most likely don't), because you're making such a point of it.

Everything Shadow said, who is an obviously amazing person.

- The game.
- Mainstream cosplays. (It's unfortunate seeing the same characters over and over again.)
- People thinking that just because you're at a convention means they can forget all common sense and manners.
- People who can't recognize when a conversation is over. (And you're trying your best to be polite, but it's just like, "Yeah.. um... I have to.. go..".)
- Weeboos. (I know, I know, I'm at an anime convention.)
- The Glomp Circle. (Yes I still have a vendetta against it from last year's incident.)
- People asking for photos at inappropriate times.
- People clogging the halls.
- Con creepers.
- Con drama.
- People who aren't respectful of fragile or expensive costumes.
- Loud people. (Srsly. Shut up.)

[iceytina]

Accidental repeat. Ignore.

[chelseahavoc]

people who dont show up on time and dont bother to tell you they are running late T.T

when PHOTO SHOOTS SUDDENLY CHANGE THEIR MEET UP LOCATION WITH NO WARNING. missed most of the day 2 photo shoot cuz of this....

[lychee-twist]

I'm expecting Gangnam Style to be the next Caramelldansen. I'm trying to limit myself since I know by this time next year I'll want to shove knitting needles in my ears to avoid hearing it.

Also, squealing. I can't stand squealing. There's no need for shrieks or ear piercing screams. If I wanted that, I'd hang out in the Maternity ward or at Toys R Us on a sale day.

Also people who can't translate things that are acceptable at a con (shrieking, over-excitement, whatnot) into public places where non-con goers are at like normal restaurants, Starbucks, etc. It's awesome that you're so excited, but take a deep breath. Your excitement and noise can cause a lot of problems so please use your manners and don't destroy something because it's fun or you're caught up in some "random" character moment. Be aware of your surroundings and also don't forget to tip! The restaurant workers and Starbucks baristas probably had NO idea you were coming and that is a freaking hard job when you've got a giant line of people, a giant cup queu, a giant line of people waiting, and it's all god damn frappuccinos.

[Kimiski]

People that complain too much about every single tiny thing and forget something important- it's an anime convention! Have FUN!!! 

[ichigo_m.]

I'm not sure if I've posted here or not yet but this was my first time going to opening ceremonies and what really bugged me was the people who were responding to what was being said on stage. (I.E. BlackStar and the guy up in front this year). This could just be the theater major in me speaking out, but I thought it was really really rude.

But hey, maybe that's just me. Everyone else seems to LOVE Blackstar. xD

It was a wonderful con though! (:

[Kimiski]

I'm not sure if I've posted here or not yet but this was my first time going to opening ceremonies and what really bugged me was the people who were responding to what was being said on stage. (I.E. BlackStar and the guy up in front this year). This could just be the theater major in me speaking out, but I thought it was really really rude.

But hey, maybe that's just me. Everyone else seems to LOVE Blackstar. xD

It was a wonderful con though! (:

I like it, it's part of the con atmosphere, but there's a limit, and it can get out of hand way to fast.

[hikaru_maxwell]

Oh, I have a new one. Panel Warfare. If you're a panelist (especially here at Kumoricon, it seems), you'll eventually find that some panel idea you've come up with steps on SOMEONE's toes. Maybe you just moved to the northwest and you've run panels in your hometown back wherever that were really great. You want to run them again. You make a post on the forum or on facebook about wanting to run such and such panel....and then 3 or 4 people suddenly jump down your throat accusing you of 'stealing a panel idea' or trying to 'railroad' the competition for such and such panel in such and such fandom. You find yourself nitpicking old panel schedules (if you can find them), and going over the 'panels' forum with a fine toothed comb trying to figure out if anyone has run that panel before, because apparently you need permission from someone who ran a similar panel 5 years ago and hasn't done it since if you want to run your panel now.

or you think "oh my god, I can't apply for [panel name here] because I don't want to move in on [panelists who always runs it]'s turf".  What I hate: When being a panelist for an anime convention feels like Gang Warfare.

[Wrath-Chan19]

I'm expecting Gangnam Style to be the next Caramelldansen. I'm trying to limit myself since I know by this time next year I'll want to shove knitting needles in my ears to avoid hearing it.

Also, squealing. I can't stand squealing. There's no need for shrieks or ear piercing screams. If I wanted that, I'd hang out in the Maternity ward or at Toys R Us on a sale day.

Also people who can't translate things that are acceptable at a con (shrieking, over-excitement, whatnot) into public places where non-con goers are at like normal restaurants, Starbucks, etc. It's awesome that you're so excited, but take a deep breath. Your excitement and noise can cause a lot of problems so please use your manners and don't destroy something because it's fun or you're caught up in some "random" character moment. Be aware of your surroundings and also don't forget to tip! The restaurant workers and Starbucks baristas probably had NO idea you were coming and that is a freaking hard job when you've got a giant line of people, a giant cup queu, a giant line of people waiting, and it's all god damn frappuccinos.

Squealing can get annoying, if it is inside.
People forgetting the rest of the world and being loud and stupid in front of normal people is the only thing that turns me off of conventions. It's even worse that these kind of people tend to forget that not everyone at a con is cool with the same things you are. I've known people who tend to shout things like "You're Sexy" from yards away to people. Strangers have even gotten too friendly way too quick to me, which makes me freak out.
ALSO EVERY TIP IS YOU CAN! My mom was a waitress for years. All the crap cosplayers do sometimes would drive her insane, a good tip would help her greatly.

I'm not sure if I've posted here or not yet but this was my first time going to opening ceremonies and what really bugged me was the people who were responding to what was being said on stage. (I.E. BlackStar and the guy up in front this year). This could just be the theater major in me speaking out, but I thought it was really really rude.

But hey, maybe that's just me. Everyone else seems to LOVE Blackstar. xD

It was a wonderful con though! (:

I agree but I think it's because we love theater.

[Animeman73]

The most annoying thing would have to be the game/MARCO....POLO.../the chair bit. GADS! After a while a running gag can get rather aggravating in my own personal opinion. There's only so much of anything that I can stand before it gets tedious.

As for costumes my thoughts on the costume debate can be summed up in the words of one Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. "It doesn't matter!" I like ALL costumes, it doesn't matter if it's an OC or a canon chaarcter, I love ALL costumes and treat the people who put time and effort into them the way I want to be treated. It's the Golden rule, "Treat others as you want to be treated". I want to be treated with respect, so I treat others wih respect. It's as simple as that.

[garfieldelric]

Marco Polo and I just lost the game. UGH.

[wildlavender]

Being mistaken for someone else, because we are cosplaying the same character. Probably shot myself in the foot on that one. That is why I'm going outside the box with this year's cosplay. My friends wanted me to cosplay as a pokemon gijinka, like the rest of my group. I instead chose to create my own gijinka from an old PS2 game, and one of my all-time favorites; Monster Rancher 4.

So far, not regretting it. It's a good challenge, and it's really broadening my skill set. I'm learning how to style my own wigs, and how to make props and accessories. Polyurathane foam is freaking amazing, by the way.

I'm pretty much used to the squealing, hyperactivity, and overused jokes by now. My friends do that all the time.

[Washougal_Otaku]

I'm expecting Gangnam Style to be the next Caramelldansen.

I'd say that Gangnam has far surpassed Caramelldansen already.  It was performed at an NFL game, it was performed by videobombers in Hurricane Sandy news broadcasts, has been repetitively played on mainstream radio, modified for a Super Bowl commercial, etc.


However, you're right about mentioning that song in this thread.  Though I haven't seen it done at a con yet, I wouldn't be surprised if it's made multiple appearances at some, and may show up at Sakuracon & Kumoricon.

[EveofAbyss]

Gangnam Style will most definitely be appearing at Kumoricon. I say that with a grimace. I guess I'm a hipster, because I liked that so much before everyone hopped on the "ride-this-into-the-ground" train. Now I can't stand it.

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ Maybe someone will combine it with the chair... 

[Wrath-Chan19]

No bad Aaron! That should never come into existence

[Animeman73]

No bad Aaron! That should never come into existence

Agreed Wrath-chan19. THERE ARE SOME THINGS MAN WAS JUST NOT MEANT TO KNOW!!!!!

[Lin]

I'm just saying that some folks were drooling pretty hard over it. Personally, I wanna see more cosplayers from Manly Guys Doing Manly Things, myself...

Heck yes on the future MGDMT cosplays.


I did find myself getting irritated by people stopping in the middle of the hall for pictures. Seriously finish walking to the end of the hall or get to the wall!

[EveofAbyss]

I did find myself getting irritated by people stopping in the middle of the hall for pictures. Seriously finish walking to the end of the hall or get to the wall!

This, unfortunately, is not just a con problem. People in general, no matter where it may be or what they may be doing, do this. People will, against all logic, stop in the middle of walkways to do things that would be easier done if they stepped to the side.

People, eh?

[RoriLei]

I personally don't like when a ton of people dress as the same character because I like variety. Of course, it's kind of difficult to predict what everyone else is going to be until you get there, so I'm not going to get mad at anybody, but I know it affects my own personal choice about who I'm cosplaying as.

[Lin]

This, unfortunately, is not just a con problem. People in general, no matter where it may be or what they may be doing, do this. People will, against all logic, stop in the middle of walkways to do things that would be easier done if they stepped to the side.

People, eh?

I know.  It just reminds me of grade school when we all had to walk in line down the hallways, but if even one person messes around the whole line gets jammed. Ah well thats when superior dodging skills come into play.

[Washougal_Otaku]

I personally don't like when a ton of people dress as the same character because I like variety. Of course, it's kind of difficult to predict what everyone else is going to be until you get there, so I'm not going to get mad at anybody, but I know it affects my own personal choice about who I'm cosplaying as.

Yeah, that can get somewhat annoying, in particular when it's a character that (for me) is a relatively unknown or could care less about...  I suppose it isn't too bad in cases where there's minimal/no drama associated with the cosplayers.

[fadadio]

the only thing I found annoying is when people ask you to do the impossible like during last years kumoricon when I went as Beetlejuice, someone asked me to spin my head around like in the movie. As a cosplayer I get in character and do my thing but please dont ask the impossible its sort of awkward.

[EveofAbyss]

I just thought of something that always bugs me. I hate meeting awesome people, and then forgetting to get contact info! I do this way too often!

[CaptnPoptart]

I just thought of something that always bugs me. I hate meeting awesome people, and then forgetting to get contact info! I do this way too often!

This is very bugging and annoying to oneself :c I met quite a number of awesome people last year but only got 1 or 2 numbers...I also have names and usernames of people but i still havent looked them up and added them yet, which is sad because idk if ill meet them again ><

[ldkstar]

My top three
 
1. People who stand in the walkways.
 
2. People who can't form proper lines.
 
3. Creepers. I am guy, but it makes all male fans look bad when people run around trying to get upskirt shots, touch, or generally harass female cosplayers. Also makes hard to have platonic conversations with females at cons because they think everyone is a creeper(understandable given alot of the stuff that happens at cons)

[EveofAbyss]

3. Creepers. I am guy, but it makes all male fans look bad when people run around trying to get upskirt shots, touch, or generally harass female cosplayers. Also makes hard to have platonic conversations with females at cons because they think everyone is a creeper(understandable given alot of the stuff that happens at cons)

This. Absolutely. I get so hung up on being misunderstood that often I won't even approach a female cosplayer because I don't want my well-intentioned compliments to be misconstrued as anything more than a gesture of respect and appreciation.

Ruining it for everyone, I say! *shakes fist*

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ Agreed.  I once approached a young lady and asked her if she knew where Chan was, only because I had seen the two of them hanging out at one point; she called me a creeper because I was talking with her, and that's it.

[ldkstar]

^ Yes, it's really sad that it has come to this at cons. This will be my first Kumoricon, it will be interesting to see how many of my pet peeves I encounter.

[veraca]

I feel really bad about the guys always getting the 'creeper card' on them. I've experienced a few female creepers before, or just girls who think cosplay-is-consent. It's not. Don't touch me unless I know your or gave you permission.

A strange thing I encountered at my latest con was some guy actually looked at my badge to make sure he wasn't talking to a minor. That was both neat, and a little weird. We ended up in a conversation about how the badge colors should really be more vibrant for those standing more then 5ft away, and that cosplayers really should put their badges above their hips.

[CaptnPoptart]

As a female con-goer since '09, I read stories on the Con-Creeper situations females have, but I have never have actually encountered a con-creep. And honestly, I keep my eye on a lookout for them. Must be because 99% of my cosplays are not revealing in any way, most being crossplay. The cosplay I have that is closest to that is probably my maid dress I wore for Konata last year, and I wore that for like 3 hours with only a few people recognizing me xP

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ Would you like a fake con-creeper, just for the XP?      Just kidding, though your thought patterns on the "why" are good theories.  That's one of the few pros about females crossplaying (in my opinion), the costumes are a lot less likely to be revealing.  Though the argument of females characters dressing revealing anyways is somewhat valid, there are exceptions and loopholes.  For example, Yoko from Gurren Lagaan: both of her bikini outfits are DESIGNED to catch the attention of the horny audience, so wear her teacher's outfit instead.  (Besides, I like that more than the others because it's a respectable and realistic fashion statement).

There's a lot of creeper girls out there, some of them are just allowed to get away with it.  Maybe it's because they creep on guys, and guys are more prone to ignore or accept it, or the girls that get creeped on are more accepting of it, befriend them, etc., but I've known some females that hate it, but do nothing about it.

As for the badges, I think they're vibrant enough (at least from what I recall), but there are catches still.  The hips are one of them.  That's a rule already in place, but a lot of people opt not to abide by it, either out of ignorance of the rule or not caring about it.  It would also help if the colors were on both sides, since they have a tendency to flip around on you.  (They moon us!).

[ldkstar]

^ Consider yourself lucky. I am not to sure it has anything to do with costumes being more or less revealing, might just be luck of the draw. People who don't respect others, usually don't discriminate.

[Washougal_Otaku]

I think being revealing contributes heavily when it comes to male creepers who are actually creepers.  I could honestly see myself doing that (if I lacked morals), but also creeping on others going as characters that I just really liked.  When it comes to creeping (at least from the ones I've encountered and heard stories of), they do tend to have some sort of preference, and for the males it does tend to lean more towards revealing costumes than not.

[ldkstar]

I guess, I have always just viewed as a crime of opportunity, meaning people go for it when they think they can get away with it. Not much room to discriminate when you are simply waiting for the next opening.

[@random]

^ Consider yourself lucky. I am not to sure it has anything to do with costumes being more or less revealing, might just be luck of the draw. People who don't respect others, usually don't discriminate.

This.

Also, it's worth note that whether someone is wearing a bikini or a nun's outfit, it makes no difference whatsoever in whether inappropriate behavior toward them will be tolerated. It will not, period.

Your mileage may vary on what constitutes creepy behavior... but if someone is breaking the rules (taking pictures after being asked not to, harassing you, etc - see https://www.kumoricon.org/policies), please talk to a staffer about it. No one's con experience should be ruined by having to deal with someone's lack of respect for others.

[Washougal_Otaku]

but if someone is breaking the rules...please talk to a staffer about it. No one's con experience should be ruined by having to deal with someone's lack of respect for others.

*insert mass clapping*

[CaptnPoptart]

You guys...speak of con creepers...I had a terrible dream today...;-; (after getting my teeth filled, I fell asleep for a 4 hour nap when I got home.)


I was at a convention (no particular one, just a con.) and I was cosplaying a pink-haired character (I really don't know who, but she had pink hair and a pink dress and she was so cutesy or something.) and basically there was this 40 year old guy who started hanging out with me for a bit, then just started coming onto me. I told him clearly I was 15 and he said he was 40 but went with it. So I ran up the elevator to lose sight of him, looking for security or a staff member. After looking around for a while, I went back to the elevators and he was standing there waiting for me with roses (yeah kinda creepy much? >< ) so he saw me and ran after me and I was running away into an elevator, but then I found out it didn't work (the lights in it were off and the doors wouldnt close) so the guy tried creeping up onto me and pinned me against the wall in the elevator, but I somehow strongly pushed/punched him away and ran off into another elevator. Then I woke up.


So I guess what I can get out of this dream is to not always trust some random guy you meet at a con. In fact, DON'T. Even if they seem nice and cool.


And to the 20-40 year old guys out there, don't come onto a girl if shes 15. Or 16. Or, actually, just anyone 12-21 years old. Maybe just don't come onto anyone, especially if they're uncomfortable with it.

[superjaz]

Yeah my worst thing is plain old bad touching, and not specifically a creeper touching.
For instance (not at con but a con thing) a friend once ran up to me from behind and tackle hugged me, now I had I been positioned differently I seriously could have punched her, not on purpose, I would have felt bad but because it was from behind me, scared me and put me into flight or fight mode.

One thing to remember is everyone has personal issues, EVERYONE. Thinking "hey I am at a con and people can do (hug grope tackle etc just because they are at a con, if they don't like it they shouldn't be at a con" kinda like the implied consent BS

I my self was attacked from behind and beat up in middle school and between that and something else, I can almost get a little ptsd-ish, nothing terrible but say I don't see some one and they touch grab, back of my neck/blind spot. 

Once at con when stuffing bags down stairs, some guy decided he needed to get past me by grabing me to push/move(?) move me out of the way, I reacted like a cat, hands let go when clawed.  I don't feel bad about that.

[Washougal_Otaku]

^ I think I remember hearing you say that once before...  It might have been someone else though, too...  Either way, rear-angled glomps (at least the surprise versions) should NEVER be done, and there's no logical excuse for thinking it's okay.  Sneaking up to startle someone is one thing, but trying to do something that could easily inflict harm is another.

And to the 20-40 year old guys out there, don't come onto a girl if shes 15. Or 16. Or, actually, just anyone 12-21 years old. Maybe just don't come onto anyone, especially if they're uncomfortable with it.

Honestly, I'd be a little bothered if they weren't uncomfortable with it.  You'd think that with today's constant reminders of real life creepy old men doing "things" with teenage girls because they were "okay" with it at first, there'd be less young ladies putting themselves in those situations.  Yet, it keeps happening, for different reasons.


But then there's the issue of "coming on" to someone.  Often times, there will be people who think that someone is hitting on them, when they're just trying to strike up a conversation.

[ldkstar]

Male/female interactions should be a choice on this survey. They are truly the most annoying things at a con. I am not talking about hooking up with anyone either. Simply striking up a conversation with someone who looks cool, or likes the same series as you seems to be dangerous as well. It seems that, unless she is a friend you came with, it would be hard to talk to someone. I am not advocating that people should be able to harass and bother people, just wish there were more opportunities for conversation.
 
I would really like more perspective from female con-goers.

[veraca]

Conversations are a touchy subject, honestly. For me, since I'm shy, I get even more shy and embarassed when someone approaches me just to talk. Nevermind if I even have the courage to go up to someone and talk.

A lot of my reasoning (and probably other people's) is that the person I would like to talk to either is: a) too far away from where I am; b) going in a different direction; c) they look busy.

That doesn't mean I'm not happy to meet and talk to people, but I just might turn beet red and lose my words.

[ldkstar]

^ This is completely random, but I love your avatar

[princess_of_zeal]

Male/female interactions should be a choice on this survey. They are truly the most annoying things at a con. I am not talking about hooking up with anyone either. Simply striking up a conversation with someone who looks cool, or likes the same series as you seems to be dangerous as well. It seems that, unless she is a friend you came with, it would be hard to talk to someone. I am not advocating that people should be able to harass and bother people, just wish there were more opportunities for conversation.
 
I would really like more perspective from female con-goers.

I am perfectly alright with people striking up a conversation with me.  Now, they shouldn't be touching me without my permission.   However, everyone I've come in contact with has asked or hesitated like they were making sure it was ok.  While I am still cautious, I still enjoy meeting people who have similar interests as me.  I'm not one to get out much being a night person, allergic to the sun (yes, really), not a bar person, not a sports person and, well, I think you get the idea.  It's just nice if someone strikes up a conversation about a common interests...just looking for friends.

[xXthatcrazychickXx]

For me? Personally? All of the minors that have no manners. I don't mind the ones that have them, but all the bloody green badges with absolutely no manners to speak of. They think that because they are under the age of 18, they entitled to do whatever they want. I had three photos ruined by greenbadges. I was up on the fish, late at night, and they all decided to try and climb and get up there too. While the person was trying to take the picture. And I asked them three times to get down, and they just asked me who I thought I was, and why I thought that I had the right to tell them what to do.

There went that photo op. I barely get pictures taken of me at con as is, even when I do have a really good cosplay.

Also, that's another thing that annoys me. I know that people are looking for certain cosplayers, but do you know how much it picks up someones day to be asked to have a picture taken of them? It's like someone shoved your own personal sunbeam into a persons heart. It's a beautiful feeling. Especially if they are wearing a nice outfit, but aren't a character from a series. People, stop to actually think that not just the 'popular' cosplays need pictures taken. Even if you don't KNOW a series, perhaps stopping to ask for their picture would actually really help their day out.

I ended up sitting in the park, on saturday night, just before all the minors were kicked out. I was sitting with a group of nearly twenty cosplayers, tucked away in the park, who had never had their picture taken the whole convention.

So i guess what annoys me most is that people think they are all that at conventions, and don't stop to consider other peoples feelings.

I know this is an old post, but I just want to thank you for the information. I didn't know that cosplayers liked to have their picture taken (Other than at photo shoots). So thank you, I will take lots of pictures if I can! 

[BrokenPsyche]

Ugh I hate how some people just tackle you and hug you without permission and invade your personal space out of nowhere. And they think it's okay to touch your boobs and **** because it's con.
I have been sexually assaulted and harassed so many times at con both playfully and forcefully. I was the one who got banned one year for punching someone because they molested me. I got banned. ME. The **** victim.
But that's really what I hate the most.


Luckily I'll have a sword with me (a real one but rather dull) so I'll be safe I suppose.
Everyone, if anyone touches you without your permission or in a way that is violating or uncomfortable, speak up. Better yet come to me I'll kick their ass for you.

[EmperorRemus]

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[Sailor-Jeimi]

I hit other. Mostly because it's all of the above....lol But also because there's WAY more than just those..


Along with the above in the poll:
-The RUDE people. Most of the people are nice and if not saying anything at all which is neither good nor bad, they might say "nice cosplay" at the least..But then there's the a-holes..Like the one on day) last year..I was in my Lolita outfit. I am a male who crossplays and crossdresses, there is nothing wrong with that. However, this one guy with his buddy (the buddy didn't say anything) had to say "why a girl? Cosplay Naruto, or Bleach, or Inuyasha..Why not one of them?"..I replied "Because I hate all 3 of those anime's..Don't be an ass mind your own business."


-The heat..Now this one only pertains to this con since it's the only summer con I attend..It sucks..lol I hate the heat. It makes it so I can't cosplay the awesome stuff..The armor or leather stuff..Oh well. I chose characters that will be only for this con to bare the heat.


-The ANNOYING people..This is different than the rude people..
I'm looking at you Homestuck fandom..Not all of you, but most of you..I have met maybe 5 different people out of the 6 cons I've attended, in that fandom, that were not annoying as hell to the point of wanting to hit them..At sakuracon 2012, my first con, my dad and I, as well as about 5 other people who happened to also be going that way, were all pushed against the walls by about 20-30 homestuck cosplayers so they could get through..They literally just shoved everyone against a wall and even HURT SOMEONE and laughed and kept going. They didn't give a crap that they could have badly injured someone, as long as they got through, eff everyone else. This is what started my hatred of this fandom..I have since then seen them do basically nothing but purposely annoy everyone around them and harm other people to get what they want like I said above. I've seen them push people out of the way to get down stairs and escalators to get by, which could have easily made someone fall down either and badly injure them, only to see them laugh at the person they pushed..
I've yet to see any other fandom do any of these things.
These aren't all though, there are the slightly less annoying ones. Like the ones that glomp you or what not. Mot are just hyped up fangirls which while it isn't harmful or bad, it get's annoying when you see the same one over and over do the same thing.."OMG I LOVE YOU [character]!!" each time you see them..


-Honestly (depending on the con), the limit of items you can have signed is kinda annoying..I have like 4 things to get signed but I'm not allowed..lol It don't matter and it's no big deal..Just wish I was able to get a few more things signed haha


There might be more..lol

[CaptnPoptart]

I am not ashamed to admit that I'll be cosplaying Homestuck this year, but i see what you mean. I don't really know how the majority of some fandoms are rude and annoying when they should really know better. I think the more annoying thing isn't just other people in another fandom being mostly annoying and rude, but when YOU'RE in the fandom with a bad name and you're the more mature one. Luckily, this is just me, but last year I've seen much more mature Homestuck cosplayers and I'm hoping this year, there will be less rude ones. Not saying ALL are rude, but I have quite the idea that we're known for being like that.

[Sailor-Jeimi]

I am not ashamed to admit that I'll be cosplaying Homestuck this year, but i see what you mean. I don't really know how the majority of some fandoms are rude and annoying when they should really know better. I think the more annoying thing isn't just other people in another fandom being mostly annoying and rude, but when YOU'RE in the fandom with a bad name and you're the more mature one. Luckily, this is just me, but last year I've seen much more mature Homestuck cosplayers and I'm hoping this year, there will be less rude ones. Not saying ALL are rude, but I have quite the idea that we're known for being like that.

Yea, I can see how it'd be even worse being IN the fandom and knowing you are better than them (attitude wise I mean, as in you are better at being a decent person than the horrible little pricks). That has to hit harder than being mature outside the fandom..I feel so sorry for all the mature ones because they are such a minority..It really sucks to see a fandom get that bad.


I REALLY hate how the annoying ones try to stick up for the other annoying ones..Like "Not like your fandom doesn't have people that are immature"..I always bring back with "Really? Link me to ALL of the posts/blogs/reports/etc. of all of the Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts fandom people that talk about how they destroy things, annoy everyone, are rude to anyone they see or harm others and then post every Homestuck one...Oh that's right, you can't..Because I've yet to see one about the KH or FF fandom, where just about every con fandom problem I've seen is only about Homestucks".


Those ones are the ones that really tick me off..

[BrokenPsyche]

I get ridiculed a lot for being a Homestuck cosplayer. I get that there are a lot of us and people may get annoyed, but that is no reason to bully people. I mean, pokemon cosplayers are everywhere, but they never get crap for it.

[Sailor-Jeimi]

I get ridiculed a lot for being a Homestuck cosplayer. I get that there are a lot of us and people may get annoyed, but that is no reason to bully people. I mean, pokemon cosplayers are everywhere, but they never get crap for it.

While I understand what you are trying to convey here, there is a huge detail in that, which you have not noted..The reason is not because the homestuck fandom is huge. That has literally nothing to do with it. It's because they are the only fandom that acts the way they do.
I come at this again with asking to look at how many bad things homestuck cosplayers have done, and how many things the other fandom (in this case pokemon) have done. Tell me one instance where a ton of pokemon cosplayers ran through and injured other people because they thought it was funny. Tell me how many times a group of pokemon cosplayers went up to other cosplayers and glomped them with the result of a ton of paint ruining the other persons clothing compared to how many homestucks have done that//See what I'm saying? It's the attitude of the cosplayers that gets people mad, not that there are a lot. You say the pokemon cosplayers are everywhere but they don't get crap for it? That's because they don't do anything to be talked bad about in the first place. Please remember to think about what you say before you say it


Also, you are being extremely defensive for someone that no one on this thread singled out..

[kuroki-neko]

I get ridiculed a lot for being a Homestuck cosplayer. I get that there are a lot of us and people may get annoyed, but that is no reason to bully people. I mean, pokemon cosplayers are everywhere, but they never get crap for it.

While I understand what you are trying to convey here, there is a huge detail in that, which you have not noted..The reason is not because the homestuck fandom is huge. That has literally nothing to do with it. It's because they are the only fandom that acts the way they do.
I come at this again with asking to look at how many bad things homestuck cosplayers have done, and how many things the other fandom (in this case pokemon) have done. Tell me one instance where a ton of pokemon cosplayers ran through and injured other people because they thought it was funny. Tell me how many times a group of pokemon cosplayers went up to other cosplayers and glomped them with the result of a ton of paint ruining the other persons clothing compared to how many homestucks have done that//See what I'm saying? It's the attitude of the cosplayers that gets people mad, not that there are a lot. You say the pokemon cosplayers are everywhere but they don't get crap for it? That's because they don't do anything to be talked bad about in the first place. Please remember to think about what you say before you say it


Also, you are being extremely defensive for someone that no one on this thread singled out..

Its just that the homestuck series promotes immaturity, there is a difference between "being in character" and using it as an excuse to act like a kid.

[superjaz]

 

[veraca]

For the record, I've seen and read many a stories about Homestuck cosplayers that trash hotel rooms and/or are banned from locations due to the mess they create in the hotels they sleep in- due to the paint on the skin. They aren't the only ones with the painted skin in the cosplay realm, but they probably are the most talked about leaving gray towels and dirty sinks. I also know a friend who had a birthday party at a hotel room, and felt entitled to trash it with her friends to her heart's content because they didn't have to clean it. If you can't leave a room as nice as you found it, at least try to clean it up some- bring extra trash bags in case you need some, ask for extra towels or paper towels, and let the staff know that the room may have a mess or two. Just being aware- I've heard stories of hotels unknowingly charging extra fees for cleaning up after guests without warning.


A brief annoying thing to me from people in general... Asking someone to back up to give you personal space when it's not a "in-line" situation. Even if it's in-line, if someone is bumping against me or is just being unaware that they're in my personal little space bubble, please move. And when I ask, you shouldn't ask "why?". I clearly have asked because you standing so close to me that I can smell you, and feel your gravitational field pulling on me, is bothering me. Please just take a step back. Don't be a d*** and step closer just to annoy me. It's beyond rude and inconsiderate.

[BrokenPsyche]

I get ridiculed a lot for being a Homestuck cosplayer. I get that there are a lot of us and people may get annoyed, but that is no reason to bully people. I mean, pokemon cosplayers are everywhere, but they never get crap for it.

While I understand what you are trying to convey here, there is a huge detail in that, which you have not noted..The reason is not because the homestuck fandom is huge. That has literally nothing to do with it. It's because they are the only fandom that acts the way they do.
I come at this again with asking to look at how many bad things homestuck cosplayers have done, and how many things the other fandom (in this case pokemon) have done. Tell me one instance where a ton of pokemon cosplayers ran through and injured other people because they thought it was funny. Tell me how many times a group of pokemon cosplayers went up to other cosplayers and glomped them with the result of a ton of paint ruining the other persons clothing compared to how many homestucks have done that//See what I'm saying? It's the attitude of the cosplayers that gets people mad, not that there are a lot. You say the pokemon cosplayers are everywhere but they don't get crap for it? That's because they don't do anything to be talked bad about in the first place. Please remember to think about what you say before you say it


Also, you are being extremely defensive for someone that no one on this thread singled out..

I'm not being defensive at all. This thread is for annoying things, is it not?


I understand that a lot of the homestuck fandom has done some very uncalled for things, but I believe that every fandom has. I remember my very first time at con, a L cosplayer rammed me into a wall and cracked my helmet (I was zero from code geass). I have also witnessed members from other fandoms do things to harm others and themselves. It's unfair in my opinion for people to say "they're the only fandom who..." when every fandom is guilty of the same thing.
I think it's more that the size of a fandom makes the things they do more noticed.
With the paint, I can completely understand the annoyance from others. Being a homestuck cosplayer I have had my cosplay ruined by other homestucks. It's not so much the fandom, I think rather then some of the people in it. There are always going to be the members who don't think before they act and just do things before considering the consequence. So to wrap it all up around one fandom, i believe, is kind of a dick move? But I understand where the frustration for the fandom comes from.


When it comes to such a large convention with so many different people of... "mental states", it's to be expected that there will be people who will act out in ways a lot of others will not find acceptable. Personally, the amount of the homestuck fandom who does act unacceptably is very very small compared to the amount who act just fine.


Again, I am not being defensive at all. I'm simply stating my opinion so if you are going to try to say I'm too defensive, please just don't.

[Trickpeta]

Hey hey just as a little psa this is a 'what you find annoying about anime conventions' thread and not a 'hey let's cause some trouble' thread, ok? Cool it with the "Homestuck promotes immaturity, they're so annoying ugh everyone in that fandom sucks" discussion, someone's gonna get upset and things wont end well. Pick your battles.


Anyway, in terms of annoying things I agree with what superjaz said with the wonderful Calvin and Hobbes comic - negative people. Like, being negative probably isn't going to solve anything, so try to be a bit more positive maybe? Easier said than done, but...worth a shot, I think.

[Sailor-Jeimi]

Wow one L cosplayers did that to you? That one L cosplayer is a who lot of one fandom..I'm so glad that you consider one deathnote cosplayer's action be the exact same as almost 30 of of yours. You are jusifying bad actions by saying other people do them too. No one is saying homestucks are the only ones that make bad actions. But they DO cause the MOST problems out of all fandoms. They are the majority of them. When I've gone to 6 cons now, and 90% of the problems caused there from cosplayers was by homesucks, that only shows that I'm correct. I'm not saying your fandom is all bad people, I'm saying the majority of the annoying cosplayers happen to be homestuck cosplayers. You can say whatever you want, it doesn't change fact. Just because YOU don't do those things, doesn't mean your fandom is full of good people. Once I see 30 Kingdom Hearts or 30 Final Fantasy people shove people against a way, then I can say we are bad too. But I've never once seen that. I've seen the homestucks harming people and being loud and rude at every single con I've been to. I've seen hundreds of them. I've also seen hundreds of Kingdom Hearts cosplayers. I've maybe seen 2 or 3 of them being rude or loud or annoying. That right there is proof that the homestuck fandom has more people being that way. It's a fact..Get over it..Want things to be different? Make them different. get a bunch of friends, show other's that the there are the good ones. Sitting here trying to justify the actions of the bad ones only makes you look like one of them. You are basically using one cosplayer's actions from deathnote to justify what 30 of yours did acting like that measures up..One L cosplayer being rude is completely different than 30 homestucks in the exact same situation.

[UptownOtaku]

SOOOOOOooooo, steering us back on track... (thanks for trying, Trickpeta)

Things I get bothered by at conventions:

• People pushing and shoving to get in front of you in line even if you've been waiting there longer.
• People with body paint hugging me too tightly.  Please don't get it on my costume!  I work hard to keep them clean!
• People in fandoms acting discriminatory.  Maybe I just want to hang out with you for a bit.  Do I HAVE to be cosplaying from your fandom just to stand and chat for a minute?
• Really loud and obnoxious attention-seekers.  I get that the hallways can get noisy so you have to raise your voice to be heard, but don't just start screaming to make it harder for everyone else to enjoy their own conversations.
• People in fandoms trying to convert me.  If I say politely that I'm not as crazy about the series your cosplaying from as you are, don't make it your lifelong mission to make me love it.  I'll acknowledge your costume is really cool and well-made and such, but I don't have to love the series.  And you really can't make me.  Can we just agree to disagree?
• People deciding we're best buddies just because I said a few funny things and decided to humor them for a bit.  Is being nice to someone so rare nowadays that it automatically signs you up for people who are going to follow you around everywhere for the rest of the con because they think you're lost soulmates?  I'd like the freedom to be nice and have a good time without picking up super clingy people who can't stand to be away from me anymore.  It's a little stifling.

And that's just a few of the many.  We could all nitpick all day every day until the con actually gets here, but really it's all about remembering to observe manners and common sense.  Kumoricon and other anime conventions aren't free-for-all zones where you can go nuts however you want.  It's a place where people of similar interests can congregate to feel free to express their creativity and love for something that isn't commonly displayed in everyday life.  But you're still asked to be a human being and observe others' personal boundaries.

[BrokenPsyche]

Oh my gosh yes, peopkle who just decide you'

SOOOOOOooooo, steering us back on track... (thanks for trying, Trickpeta)

Things I get bothered by at conventions:

• People pushing and shoving to get in front of you in line even if you've been waiting there longer.
• People with body paint hugging me too tightly.  Please don't get it on my costume!  I work hard to keep them clean!
• People in fandoms acting discriminatory.  Maybe I just want to hang out with you for a bit.  Do I HAVE to be cosplaying from your fandom just to stand and chat for a minute?
• Really loud and obnoxious attention-seekers.  I get that the hallways can get noisy so you have to raise your voice to be heard, but don't just start screaming to make it harder for everyone else to enjoy their own conversations.
• People in fandoms trying to convert me.  If I say politely that I'm not as crazy about the series your cosplaying from as you are, don't make it your lifelong mission to make me love it.  I'll acknowledge your costume is really cool and well-made and such, but I don't have to love the series.  And you really can't make me.  Can we just agree to disagree?
• People deciding we're best buddies just because I said a few funny things and decided to humor them for a bit.  Is being nice to someone so rare nowadays that it automatically signs you up for people who are going to follow you around everywhere for the rest of the con because they think you're lost soulmates?  I'd like the freedom to be nice and have a good time without picking up super clingy people who can't stand to be away from me anymore.  It's a little stifling.

And that's just a few of the many.  We could all nitpick all day every day until the con actually gets here, but really it's all about remembering to observe manners and common sense.  Kumoricon and other anime conventions aren't free-for-all zones where you can go nuts however you want.  It's a place where people of similar interests can congregate to feel free to express their creativity and love for something that isn't commonly displayed in everyday life.  But you're still asked to be a human being and observe others' personal boundaries.

I have to say this list, %100 on target, oh gosh.
I always feel bad trying to push away the people who think we are friends.

[UptownOtaku]

Oh my gosh yes, peopkle who just decide you'

SOOOOOOooooo, steering us back on track... (thanks for trying, Trickpeta)

Things I get bothered by at conventions:

• People pushing and shoving to get in front of you in line even if you've been waiting there longer.
• People with body paint hugging me too tightly.  Please don't get it on my costume!  I work hard to keep them clean!
• People in fandoms acting discriminatory.  Maybe I just want to hang out with you for a bit.  Do I HAVE to be cosplaying from your fandom just to stand and chat for a minute?
• Really loud and obnoxious attention-seekers.  I get that the hallways can get noisy so you have to raise your voice to be heard, but don't just start screaming to make it harder for everyone else to enjoy their own conversations.
• People in fandoms trying to convert me.  If I say politely that I'm not as crazy about the series your cosplaying from as you are, don't make it your lifelong mission to make me love it.  I'll acknowledge your costume is really cool and well-made and such, but I don't have to love the series.  And you really can't make me.  Can we just agree to disagree?
• People deciding we're best buddies just because I said a few funny things and decided to humor them for a bit.  Is being nice to someone so rare nowadays that it automatically signs you up for people who are going to follow you around everywhere for the rest of the con because they think you're lost soulmates?  I'd like the freedom to be nice and have a good time without picking up super clingy people who can't stand to be away from me anymore.  It's a little stifling.

And that's just a few of the many.  We could all nitpick all day every day until the con actually gets here, but really it's all about remembering to observe manners and common sense.  Kumoricon and other anime conventions aren't free-for-all zones where you can go nuts however you want.  It's a place where people of similar interests can congregate to feel free to express their creativity and love for something that isn't commonly displayed in everyday life.  But you're still asked to be a human being and observe others' personal boundaries.

I have to say this list, %100 on target, oh gosh.
I always feel bad trying to push away the people who think we are friends.

I know, right?!  It's so hard to say no to someone who really seems to enjoy your company, just... they enjoy it way TOO much.  It's in some people's nature to be naturally friendly to everyone, but sometimes it comes back to bite us when the wrong people get attracted to it and start clinging to us like life rafts.  It makes us feel bad for feeling smothered, but we can't help it.  It's a vicious cycle.

[BrokenPsyche]

Oh my gosh yes, peopkle who just decide you'

SOOOOOOooooo, steering us back on track... (thanks for trying, Trickpeta)

Things I get bothered by at conventions:

• People pushing and shoving to get in front of you in line even if you've been waiting there longer.
• People with body paint hugging me too tightly.  Please don't get it on my costume!  I work hard to keep them clean!
• People in fandoms acting discriminatory.  Maybe I just want to hang out with you for a bit.  Do I HAVE to be cosplaying from your fandom just to stand and chat for a minute?
• Really loud and obnoxious attention-seekers.  I get that the hallways can get noisy so you have to raise your voice to be heard, but don't just start screaming to make it harder for everyone else to enjoy their own conversations.
• People in fandoms trying to convert me.  If I say politely that I'm not as crazy about the series your cosplaying from as you are, don't make it your lifelong mission to make me love it.  I'll acknowledge your costume is really cool and well-made and such, but I don't have to love the series.  And you really can't make me.  Can we just agree to disagree?
• People deciding we're best buddies just because I said a few funny things and decided to humor them for a bit.  Is being nice to someone so rare nowadays that it automatically signs you up for people who are going to follow you around everywhere for the rest of the con because they think you're lost soulmates?  I'd like the freedom to be nice and have a good time without picking up super clingy people who can't stand to be away from me anymore.  It's a little stifling.

And that's just a few of the many.  We could all nitpick all day every day until the con actually gets here, but really it's all about remembering to observe manners and common sense.  Kumoricon and other anime conventions aren't free-for-all zones where you can go nuts however you want.  It's a place where people of similar interests can congregate to feel free to express their creativity and love for something that isn't commonly displayed in everyday life.  But you're still asked to be a human being and observe others' personal boundaries.

I have to say this list, %100 on target, oh gosh.
I always feel bad trying to push away the people who think we are friends.

I know, right?!  It's so hard to say no to someone who really seems to enjoy your company, just... they enjoy it way TOO much.  It's in some people's nature to be naturally friendly to everyone, but sometimes it comes back to bite us when the wrong people get attracted to it and start clinging to us like life rafts.  It makes us feel bad for feeling smothered, but we can't help it.  It's a vicious cycle.

I suppose it's the necessary evils of after con chaos.

[veraca]

How do you even address that super friendly OMG WE'RE SOUL MATES person to leave? I mean, in some cases, the person is alone or doesn't seem to have friends nearby and has just glommed onto you or your group. Sometimes changing locations isn't the answer and you have to talk to them... But what do you say so you don't hurt their feelings or something?

If I feel like I'm the one bothering others, I will politely excuse myself and say it was nice chatting with them. But, asking someone to leave seems a million times harder.

[BrokenPsyche]

How do you even address that super friendly OMG WE'RE SOUL MATES person to leave? I mean, in some cases, the person is alone or doesn't seem to have friends nearby and has just glommed onto you or your group. Sometimes changing locations isn't the answer and you have to talk to them... But what do you say so you don't hurt their feelings or something?

If I feel like I'm the one bothering others, I will politely excuse myself and say it was nice chatting with them. But, asking someone to leave seems a million times harder.

What I usually do is just say something along the lines of "look, I haven't seen my friend in a really long time [select a person you are hanging out with by Wrapping an arm around their shoulders] and I really want to spend time with just them." If they try to tag along just tell them you don't want to hang out.
As I said before, it's a necessary evil. You can't spare everyones feelings.

[EveofAbyss]

I'd add to things by saying, something that annoys me is non-anime/manga/J-game cosplays treating anime cons like general nerd cons...but that ship sailed a long time ago and there's nothing more to really say about it, lol.

Still, it's a personal pet peeve that will always be less-than-ideal for me.

[RedEagleEX]

I only had one incident during the convention last year but it annoyed me a lot for that small moment it occurred. I was doing a Photo Walk at night taking pictures of Cosplayers when one guy began to jump into pictures I was taking. When I walked away, he followed and when I asked "Can I help you?" he wanted me to take his picture. When I said "No" he refused that answer. X_x


Seeing how I couldn't take any more pics without him jumping into it, I agreed and took his pic for him to leave me alone. It really annoyed me because I had to ask the cosplayers I was taking pics for a do-over and apologized a lot. (Though they were very understanding and had no issues with taking new pics)


So basically most annoying thing are those that just want attention at the expense of others. He made his little scene to "act funny" but I don't think those around him found it amusing that I was slowly losing my patience.

[graphicnovellife]

I think the most annoying thing is people trying to tell you what to do and then having the fear of being criticized. A lot of people forget this is all for fun and then get really nasty when people start doing things they don't fit their ideas. I've had it happen to me at the forums and have heard horrible stories from other cons, so I get nervous when I go to conventions that someone is going to come up to me and just tear me down for trying to have some fun.

[EveofAbyss]

I think generally people are braver on the internet because there are no real consequences for the things they say and do. I've seen a lot of forum drama, but never seen any in-person confrontations at con (not saying it doesn't happen, but I wouldn't worry about it.). Don't let fear keep you from cosplaying how you want or enjoying Kumoricon the way you like to. We all have our opinions, but I, for one, would not force mine on anyone else. I think most people at con are too busy having fun to want to get down on anyone else. I'd hope so anyway.

[dark4ever]

Cosplay snobs. Hooooooooly crap. My very very first con (I was 16. I was a yellow badge, come on), I had a few Kingdom Hearts cosplayers follow me and ridicule me for my Larxene wig, which was failing because I hadn't used water proof product and it was raining. Nearly caused me to quit going to cons. Thank god I had a few people help me and get the dang wig working.

[Black~Rose]

Cosplay snobs. Hooooooooly crap. My very very first con (I was 16. I was a yellow badge, come on), I had a few Kingdom Hearts cosplayers follow me and ridicule me for my Larxene wig, which was failing because I hadn't used water proof product and it was raining. Nearly caused me to quit going to cons. Thank god I had a few people help me and get the dang wig working.

That is just not okay at all. Believe me, I was not good when I started either. And I thought it was acceptable to hold up a free hug sign because people did it and it seemed like a fun way to meet friendly people. I got called a slut for holding it. That was my first con. Its good that the support outweighs the negative people though. For the most part.

[Black~Rose]

I REALLY hate how the annoying ones try to stick up for the other annoying ones..Like "Not like your fandom doesn't have people that are immature"..I always bring back with "Really? Link me to ALL of the posts/blogs/reports/etc. of all of the Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts fandom people that talk about how they destroy things, annoy everyone, are rude to anyone they see or harm others and then post every Homestuck one...Oh that's right, you can't..Because I've yet to see one about the KH or FF fandom, where just about every con fandom problem I've seen is only about Homestucks".


Those ones are the ones that really tick me off..

I do have to say that there are just some fans in ANY fandom that don't know boundaries. And it mainly has to do with shippers in my opinion.  The most annoying thing for me in, not just cons, but in fandoms is the shippers that get mad when you dont ship what they ship or dont support ANYTHING fake or not being pedo or incest related. Disrespect happens in all fandoms. The issue with homestuck is that the characters themselves are (at least as I have heard because I did not read it at all) Trolls. They thrive on being annoying. Therefore the fans sometimes feel the need to imitate socially inappropriate behaviors while in cosplay amongst people that do not understand the "humor." If it was kept within their group and use common sense when communicating with someone who is not a fan of the series there would be no issue.

[AnimalCrossing]

(Sorry guys, not continuing on the argument of homestuck)
A few things that have ticked me off have happened a lot in the past (especially at larger cons) but hopefully it wont be as bad this year:

• People who are very touchy-feely (if this is the correct way to put it). I'm A-OK with people asking politely like "hey may i have a hug? I love your cosplay!" and making sure to respect boundaries of others. A few times i have been disregarded of having personal space and attacked with a giant bear hug which ruined part of my cosplay. Not saying EVERYONE does it, I just think its kind of annoying when people don't ask before invading personal space.
• Hate on Anime v.s. Comic(Or TV shows). I've seen some hate go around about how it isn't ""OK"" to cosplay other than anime characters at cons which is really hurtful to some. I'm sure ill get a lot of that this year (because im doing a Supernatural cosplay) but it annoys me to no end. We are all here to have fun and be ourselves. Why do you have to annoy someone about who they are cosplaying just because you don't like it!
• Mocking cosplays. Not a whole bunch has happened with this at Kumori I don't think, but i have seen some at cons like Sakura. There are a LOT of first time cosplayers which is amazing!! Its great that they want to join our big group of nice people. But i have heard people being un-included and ridiculed for a cosplay which may not be as good as others. They either may be a first time cosplayer or not have the sufficient funds to do things like this. Cosplaying is VERY expensive and we should just be glad that more people are becoming more open to dressing up, especially how much it could tank your bank account. I think it is nice every once in a while to stop and make sure you can compliment people for working so hard.

Im sorry this is SO long, but i just kinda wanted to let this out. Kumoricon is a wonderful con and i cant wait!! (P.S. sorry if i have dumb points)

[KingOfSassgard]

(Sorry guys, not continuing on the argument of homestuck)
A few things that have ticked me off have happened a lot in the past (especially at larger cons) but hopefully it wont be as bad this year:

• People who are very touchy-feely (if this is the correct way to put it). I'm A-OK with people asking politely like "hey may i have a hug? I love your cosplay!" and making sure to respect boundaries of others. A few times i have been disregarded of having personal space and attacked with a giant bear hug which ruined part of my cosplay. Not saying EVERYONE does it, I just think its kind of annoying when people don't ask before invading personal space.
• Hate on Anime v.s. Comic(Or TV shows). I've seen some hate go around about how it isn't ""OK"" to cosplay other than anime characters at cons which is really hurtful to some. I'm sure ill get a lot of that this year (because im doing a Supernatural cosplay) but it annoys me to no end. We are all here to have fun and be ourselves. Why do you have to annoy someone about who they are cosplaying just because you don't like it!
• Mocking cosplays. Not a whole bunch has happened with this at Kumori I don't think, but i have seen some at cons like Sakura. There are a LOT of first time cosplayers which is amazing!! Its great that they want to join our big group of nice people. But i have heard people being un-included and ridiculed for a cosplay which may not be as good as others. They either may be a first time cosplayer or not have the sufficient funds to do things like this. Cosplaying is VERY expensive and we should just be glad that more people are becoming more open to dressing up, especially how much it could tank your bank account. I think it is nice every once in a while to stop and make sure you can compliment people for working so hard.

Im sorry this is SO long, but i just kinda wanted to let this out. Kumoricon is a wonderful con and i cant wait!! (P.S. sorry if i have dumb points)

Yes.

[veraca]

You have to realize that a lot of the Homestuck hate is shh-shh at con and not talked about unless brought up. Most of the hate at that particular fandom happens online, in groups of people talking after the convention has ended.
If someone ever gives you flack for it, it's not okay and they're in the wrong.

Yes, Kumori is an anime-con, but people have to realize that people attend these conventions and like to wear other costumes. I do wonder about steampunk, TV show cosplays, not because they don't belong, but because it's - with the tv shows- it's regular clothes... I prefer looking at non-tv-cosplays just because odds are the person had it custom made or made it themself, which for me as a spectator, is impressive. But that's me and my reasoning. I actually end up mistaking 99% of the tv-cosplays I see as regular people at the con who just aren't in a costume. But, again, that's me, and I'm not a tv-show nerd. *shrugs* Nothing wrong with wearing them, you just kinda blend in to the crowd.

[moonbeam]

Um well ... I'm a bit shy to speak out on this topic but here  go ...   first this is people who complaints about other peoples cosplay weather its the size or look of the cosplayer or the actual cosplay its self .  It hurts peoples feelings when people say things  like " your not right for the cosplay. "   or "  ypu got that / this part the wrong color. "   " or hey ( character ) has blue hair you should have got a wig "    those of course are examples of things I haven't heard those lines per-say but seen or heard about similar situations . Well first not all people are going to look like they came from the tv or game or movie or what ever .   Also people cant always afford the high quality cosplay / wigs   . Some people cant sow or create as well as other but they sure try there hardest !       All I'm saying is kumoricon and other cons where made for fun enjoyment and to meet people .        Also for those people who seem to cling onto others ... I admit I probably at one time without realizing it have done that ... but I was alone hearing how well you.can make friends at con so I might have gone past the line id rather be told at the time in a way thats not rude then on things like here ... I just know most of the time the people who do that are nice and probably don't relize they crossed a line just kindly say something like I don't know      " hey you've been really cool to.hang with but I'm gonna go look around for a while on my own ill see you around have a great rest of the con ( day )    "   most shpuld understand that .     

[SageBell]

Confunk.


cosplayers with mad B.O. running up for hugs. Its hard to get that smell outta costumes :/

[veraca]

If we as a community were just nicer and kinder and offer advice, it'd be nice. It shouldn't be a secret where you bought your fabric of amazing color, or why your thread tension is amazing just because you used a certain needle/thread, or why your wig is a certain color and self-styled. Color of fabric is really hard to do for a lot of people- dyes aren't always right, fabric doesn't take the dye, or the colors available aren't right and you have to just make-due. Some people actually aren't that crazy about getting the perfect color and the plain old canary yellow is just fine- even if it's the wrong shade. Just because I would take the time to sew down a bias strip instead of hand paint doesn't mean my costume is better- it just means I'm insane on a different level. Painting a design takes a level of commitment and putting down the bias takes another level, they aren't better than each other at all.

Like, I enjoy styling wigs. And part of me wants to go up to someone and ask if I can help them style their wig or teach them. The other part is like, well that might come off as rude and condescending.

[Black~Rose]

I'm actually worried this year about hugs. Not just because of B.O but I have always accepted in the past. Bit with my Ariel (what I assume is going to be asked the most for hugs) is delicate. The pearls and crystals on the bra can easily be knocked off. I will have to tell people to be careful and one hand only. I don't want people to take offense to this x_x.

[Sailor-Jeimi]

I'm actually worried this year about hugs. Not just because of B.O but I have always accepted in the past. Bit with my Ariel (what I assume is going to be asked the most for hugs) is delicate. The pearls and crystals on the bra can easily be knocked off. I will have to tell people to be careful and one hand only. I don't want people to take offense to this x_x.

If anyone takes offence to you asking them to just be carefull, while still accepting the hug, then they don't DESERVE the hug in the first place..If they are too much of jerks that they don't think they should respect you wanting them to just be careful so things don't break, then screw them..They are mean and shouldn't be hugged anyway.
But more people than not, will be greatful that you warned them to be careful. Because they, just liuke you, do not WANT to break anything, so they will be happy you told them so it doesn't happen.

[Black~Rose]

I'm actually worried this year about hugs. Not just because of B.O but I have always accepted in the past. Bit with my Ariel (what I assume is going to be asked the most for hugs) is delicate. The pearls and crystals on the bra can easily be knocked off. I will have to tell people to be careful and one hand only. I don't want people to take offense to this x_x.

If anyone takes offence to you asking them to just be carefull, while still accepting the hug, then they don't DESERVE the hug in the first place..If they are too much of jerks that they don't think they should respect you wanting them to just be careful so things don't break, then screw them..They are mean and shouldn't be hugged anyway.
But more people than not, will be greatful that you warned them to be careful. Because they, just liuke you, do not WANT to break anything, so they will be happy you told them so it doesn't happen.

That is true. I would feel terrible if I broke something of someone elses costume.

[Hillopurkki]

This is literally my first post on this forum ever, so I feel bad that I'm posting about the negative stuff, haha.
I guess the most annoying thing at a con for me is a tie between the elitism that can occur and people not cleaning up after themselves, there was trash in the park on the second day, and I was like, "PEOPLE PICK UP YOUR CRAP."
Though, really, my experience at Kumoricon has been pretty good, at least last year was. My first year, 2011, is one I do not like to remember too fondly. Last year though, that was fun. I talked to a bunch of really sweet people, I got complimented for my cosplay, (which was a lot more complex to make than I expected), people took my picture (this one lady recognized my Snufkin cosplay, and had me take a picture with her and her kids, saying I brought back memories) and I didn't have any 'weeaboo' encounters. The only thing that kind of stunk was that the shoes I was wearing were KILLER on my feet. So that's the other thing about cons that annoy me, when you are so hyped to see all, do all, experience all, you poop out before it's even over.

[dark4ever]

You have to realize that a lot of the Homestuck hate is shh-shh at con and not talked about unless brought up. Most of the hate at that particular fandom happens online, in groups of people talking after the convention has ended.
If someone ever gives you flack for it, it's not okay and they're in the wrong.

Yes, Kumori is an anime-con, but people have to realize that people attend these conventions and like to wear other costumes. I do wonder about steampunk, TV show cosplays, not because they don't belong, but because it's - with the tv shows- it's regular clothes... I prefer looking at non-tv-cosplays just because odds are the person had it custom made or made it themself, which for me as a spectator, is impressive. But that's me and my reasoning. I actually end up mistaking 99% of the tv-cosplays I see as regular people at the con who just aren't in a costume. But, again, that's me, and I'm not a tv-show nerd. *shrugs* Nothing wrong with wearing them, you just kinda blend in to the crowd.

While I understand where you're coming from, you very nearly answered your own question: sometimes, it's easier. As someone who attends school full time and works near-full time (32-38 hours a week), I have very little time for crafting. Also, because of school and living in Portland, I don't have the money to commission pieces, like I did in high school. Costumes that are less intricate tend to be where I lean towards, since there's less work involved. That's why I opted to do all western costumes this year- two are re-dos, one is very simple, and the last will be made with help.

Also, some people don't have the money to buy costumes, and they aren't talented enough to just sew them, so they have to make do with "closet cosplays". I mean, a friend of mine with a giant freaking closet tried to make a closet costume out of it, and failed @.@ all she got were western outfits. 

[veraca]

You have to realize that a lot of the Homestuck hate is shh-shh at con and not talked about unless brought up. Most of the hate at that particular fandom happens online, in groups of people talking after the convention has ended.
If someone ever gives you flack for it, it's not okay and they're in the wrong.

Yes, Kumori is an anime-con, but people have to realize that people attend these conventions and like to wear other costumes. I do wonder about steampunk, TV show cosplays, not because they don't belong, but because it's - with the tv shows- it's regular clothes... I prefer looking at non-tv-cosplays just because odds are the person had it custom made or made it themself, which for me as a spectator, is impressive. But that's me and my reasoning. I actually end up mistaking 99% of the tv-cosplays I see as regular people at the con who just aren't in a costume. But, again, that's me, and I'm not a tv-show nerd. *shrugs* Nothing wrong with wearing them, you just kinda blend in to the crowd.

While I understand where you're coming from, you very nearly answered your own question: sometimes, it's easier. As someone who attends school full time and works near-full time (32-38 hours a week), I have very little time for crafting. Also, because of school and living in Portland, I don't have the money to commission pieces, like I did in high school. Costumes that are less intricate tend to be where I lean towards, since there's less work involved. That's why I opted to do all western costumes this year- two are re-dos, one is very simple, and the last will be made with help.

Also, some people don't have the money to buy costumes, and they aren't talented enough to just sew them, so they have to make do with "closet cosplays". I mean, a friend of mine with a giant freaking closet tried to make a closet costume out of it, and failed @.@ all she got were western outfits.

As I said, there's nothing wrong with it. It's just that 99% of tv-cosplays blend into the crowd for me. Even some comic or video game costumes do that. Visually, if it's not a bright color or something you don't know, odds are you won't notice it as much.

People who don't have talent can do different things, if they chose to. I know a friend of mine can't sew, but he makes all armor costumes instead just so he doesn't have to sew. Another friend of mine buys all of her costumes, but she spends a long time looking up commissioners and will carefully save her money up even though she works full time and is college full time. It just depends on the person and what they want to do, everyone is different.

[Valkyrie542]

Well, for one thing, if you're having trouble with 'clingy' people, you can ask them if you'd like to exchange e-mails and chat later. Or, you can just let them know that you have to go/meet someone and maybe you'll see them later. Although, if you feel like you're being followed (stalked) or harassed and are feelng uncomfortable, you should get con security.


As for complaints, I really hope that more and more people will remember to be respectful and exercise patience (2013 was a good year for manners and such; everyone was pretty friendly). I noticed some people - in the halls and in games - would roll their eyes and use exasperated/annoyed tones and tell people to move out of the way or order them around. I'll gladly move in either case, but 'please' or 'excuse me' are appreciated.


I haven't personally encountered elitists or people who go after non-anime/manga/Japan cosplays in person (but I see some comments online in forums and blogs). I understand that Kumoricon started out as - and will always be - an anime convention. But not everyone can afford to go to Comic Con for general, non-anime cosplay. I think cosplay is fun and open for everyone, and everyone deserves to be treated respectfully. If there is a tv/video game/meme/etc. character you want to dress up as, go ahead and do it - it's your choice and you're the one who's doing the work and trying to have fun!

[AliceMalice]

I think for me it is the people in general- the rude cosplayers, those who criticize another based on what they decided to go as and how the cosplay looks- we all share the same passion just a different branch on the cosplaying tree- If i bust my butt to make a costume- don't criticize me for trying my best and not being as good as you- Im all for constructive advice, not destructive.


Old saying still stands "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all"

[kittykat1blabla]

I think for me it is the people in general- the rude cosplayers, those who criticize another based on what they decided to go as and how the cosplay looks- we all share the same passion just a different branch on the cosplaying tree- If i bust my butt to make a costume- don't criticize me for trying my best and not being as good as you- Im all for constructive advice, not destructive.


Old saying still stands "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all"

I think I know what you mean, I don't know if this is the same thing but when you go and there's a bunch of snobs. People who think their costumes are the gem of the con and if you say something like "oh wow I like your costume" they kind of just look you over and don't respond. I don't know if that just happens to me a lot but in my experience that has been one of my pet peeves. The people who think they're better than everyone else. Is that rude? Do I just sound bitter? I don't know but I feel like the people I described and the people you described are the same.

[veraca]

People who think their costumes are the gem of the con and if you say something like "oh wow I like your costume" they kind of just look you over and don't respond.

Geeze, that's my definition of 'rude' right there. I always be sure to thank whoever gives me a compliment because -every- costume has issues. And if someone thinks your costume is great, thank them. If they think it's great and you didn't make it, thank them. Always thank someone for a compliment, is my idea.

[Black~Rose]

Cosplay wise, while I cannot stand people who criticize someones cosplay construction non-constructively or unasked for, the thing I hate the most is criticism based on things people cannot help (skin color, height, ect..)  or cannot help at the moment (weight, eye color, ect..). Perhaps they are even working on it and you just smashed their self confidence to smithereens!

Is it really so hard to treat people who, if you were in their shoes, you would want to be treated?

[SageBell]

I'm actually worried this year about hugs. Not just because of B.O but I have always accepted in the past. Bit with my Ariel (what I assume is going to be asked the most for hugs) is delicate. The pearls and crystals on the bra can easily be knocked off. I will have to tell people to be careful and one hand only. I don't want people to take offense to this x_x.

If you are afraid of a hug.. you can all ways .. oop... always, say something like sorry I am worried about the costume but I can offer you a hand hug. then make a cheesey face.

[SageBell]

Wait Wait Wait, have you guys actually had people approach you and tell you how crappy your costume was? (according to that person)

I cant believe people actually do that. ugh.

I once witnessed someone say "hey its _____, lets go make fun of them" and I was all wow that's really not cool.. (i actually said that's rude or not cool and they shouldn't do it...) a few others in the group agreed with me on the matter then the bullying never happened.

Weren't we all social outcasts or mocked for some reason in School? What right do we have to make fun of someone of our kind. -Gross

[Black~Rose]

^ exactly and more people should be like you and be willing to say how uncool it is when they hear of these plans being made.

hahah hand hugs

I was actually thinking of starting a sticker campaign kinda like the singles thing. But a sticker on the badge that means you are anti-cosplay bullying and here to help make your day better and be a person you can talk to if you have had a bad con day due to people being rude.

[Valkyrie542]

^ exactly and more people should be like you and be willing to say how uncool it is when they hear of these plans being made.

hahah hand hugs

I was actually thinking of starting a sticker campaign kinda like the singles thing. But a sticker on the badge that means you are anti-cosplay bullying and here to help make your day better and be a person you can talk to if you have had a bad con day due to people being rude.

Oh, like a moral support badge? That's an interesting idea!

Maybe the more experienced con-goers can volunteer to wear badges like that and they can act as helpful guides for newcomers, or something?

I thought there were colored badges that let everyone know if they were new or recurring attendees, but I could be wrong.

[Sailor-Jeimi]

My friend that I came with last year had similar badge bungs like that. It was a sticky back ribbon that you take the top of the backing off and stick it to hang off your badge. It's still on there pretty good. Things like that would work

[Black~Rose]

^ exactly and more people should be like you and be willing to say how uncool it is when they hear of these plans being made.

hahah hand hugs

I was actually thinking of starting a sticker campaign kinda like the singles thing. But a sticker on the badge that means you are anti-cosplay bullying and here to help make your day better and be a person you can talk to if you have had a bad con day due to people being rude.

Oh, like a moral support badge? That's an interesting idea!

Maybe the more experienced con-goers can volunteer to wear badges like that and they can act as helpful guides for newcomers, or something?

I thought there were colored badges that let everyone know if they were new or recurring attendees, but I could be wrong.

Yeah! Like a moral support badge. I posted the thread up. I am not sure if there is enough time to organize a team for this year but I would love to see it happen by next year.

My friend that I came with last year had similar badge bungs like that. It was a sticky back ribbon that you take the top of the backing off and stick it to hang off your badge. It's still on there pretty good. Things like that would work

Yes I would love input on how to do this.

[GreenBrownGirlSasori]

I dislike being harassed. I have been kissed by someone who did not have my permission to kiss or even touch me, I have been stalked several times, groped, had my wig pulled off my head, been stolen from, and bullied about my cosplay. I don't give a **** what you are dressed as. You ask my permission to touch or take photos of me, it is not my job to be your bank, your girlfriend, or your doll. I will wear the cosplays that I want and play the character as I see them. I cannot be in character all con however, because some situations require the cosplayer, not the character's action and thinking. As for ****** fandoms, I am a part of thousands, all of which have a few ****** people in them. I have not experienced more ****** homestuck fans than ****** fans of any other series. To the homestuckers on this thread that get a bad rap for the ****** people in the fandom, we hetalians know that feel bro. So here's my suggestion: Let's all agree to be decent to one another regardless of fandom and give all cosplayers and non cosplayers respect and their personal space. ok guys? Thanks for listening to my cuss filled rant.

Modified per code of conduct. ~ @random

[Washougal_Otaku]

I get ridiculed a lot for being a Homestuck cosplayer. I get that there are a lot of us and people may get annoyed, but that is no reason to bully people. I mean, pokemon cosplayers are everywhere, but they never get crap for it.

They do from me, but only if they try to shove their fandom down my throat like a religion.

[Prince McKupo]

Something that really got to me one year was being ridiculed for my sexual preference and being called the f-word (not the 4-letter one, but the 3 or 6-letter one) for simply holding hands with my boyfriend at the time.  And that was really heartbreaking to me, as I've come to know the anime and cosplay community to be very accepting of LGBT folk, such as myself and many others on here.  Really, there should be no room for hate like that in this world, let alone Kumoricon. 

I mean, I know that not everyone can be completely comfortable with the gay steamroller (see: The Oatmeal's Gay Steamroller), but keeping to common courtesy: If you can't say anything nice...Please shut your trap, go home and stay there for the remainder of the convention to think long and hard about why you're such a closed-minded hemorrhoid on the posterior of society.         /rant                                I feel better now.   

[Bresslol]

Something that really got to me one year was being ridiculed for my sexual preference and being called the f-word (not the 4-letter one, but the 3 or 6-letter one) for simply holding hands with my boyfriend at the time.  And that was really heartbreaking to me, as I've come to know the anime and cosplay community to be very accepting of LGBT folk, such as myself and many others on here.  Really, there should be no room for hate like that in this world, let alone Kumoricon. 

I mean, I know that not everyone can be completely comfortable with the gay steamroller (see: The Oatmeal's Gay Steamroller), but keeping to common courtesy: If you can't say anything nice...Please shut your trap, go home and stay there for the remainder of the convention to think long and hard about why you're such a closed-minded hemorrhoid on the posterior of society.         /rant                                I feel better now.   

Nobody should feel uncomfortable about their sexual preference at con. If someone says something like that to you, let a staffer know next time.

[Sailor-Jeimi]

Something that really got to me one year was being ridiculed for my sexual preference and being called the f-word (not the 4-letter one, but the 3 or 6-letter one) for simply holding hands with my boyfriend at the time.  And that was really heartbreaking to me, as I've come to know the anime and cosplay community to be very accepting of LGBT folk, such as myself and many others on here.  Really, there should be no room for hate like that in this world, let alone Kumoricon. 

I mean, I know that not everyone can be completely comfortable with the gay steamroller (see: The Oatmeal's Gay Steamroller), but keeping to common courtesy: If you can't say anything nice...Please shut your trap, go home and stay there for the remainder of the convention to think long and hard about why you're such a closed-minded hemorrhoid on the posterior of society.         /rant                                I feel better now.   

This is worse than what was said to me..That's terrible..
Mine I already put in this thread but it was:

The RUDE people. Most of the people are nice and if not saying anything at all which is neither good nor bad, they might say "nice cosplay" at the least..But then there's the a-holes..Like the one on day) last year..I was in my Lolita outfit. I am a male who crossplays and crossdresses, there is nothing wrong with that. However, this one guy with his buddy (the buddy didn't say anything) had to say "why a girl? Cosplay Naruto, or Bleach, or Inuyasha..Why not one of them?"..I replied "Because I hate all 3 of those anime's..Don't be an ass mind your own business."

It's like, dude, mind your own damn business..

[BlackjackGabbiani]

^ exactly and more people should be like you and be willing to say how uncool it is when they hear of these plans being made.

hahah hand hugs

I was actually thinking of starting a sticker campaign kinda like the singles thing. But a sticker on the badge that means you are anti-cosplay bullying and here to help make your day better and be a person you can talk to if you have had a bad con day due to people being rude.

Ooh, I'd be up for that. Anyone able to run some stickers off?

[Black~Rose]

I got really pissed off at people for judging someone in a fur suit. Not all of them are into freaky stuff and usually if they are that is kept in their private life. There is no need to act like a couple of B****es and start talking crap RIGHT BEHIND THE PERSON. I went up and hugged them and said their costume was adorable because I cant see their face but that had to have not been fun to listen to for the 2 block walk to the Red Lion.

[kuroki-neko]

What really irks me, and i know this has been covered before. People who have an elitist attitude/toxic, or more of just being a bully. They act like their way is law, and anyone who thinks or acts different is wrong. The only way they can get away with acting like this is if they have lots of friends like themselves to back them up. Another thing is that you could have done nothing to make them mad at you or anything (at least something you are aware of) and they will still treat you the same. No matter how  they tell you to act  they will never be friendly with you, their insecurity/ego would not allow it. They don't want anyone to mess up their little fantasy world they have made for themselves.

[Sailor-Jeimi]

^ exactly and more people should be like you and be willing to say how uncool it is when they hear of these plans being made.

hahah hand hugs

I was actually thinking of starting a sticker campaign kinda like the singles thing. But a sticker on the badge that means you are anti-cosplay bullying and here to help make your day better and be a person you can talk to if you have had a bad con day due to people being rude.

Ooh, I'd be up for that. Anyone able to run some stickers off?

If you wanna check out the anti bully thread in the plan your own adventure forum, I'm going to make a ton of bows to wear on the Badge clip. But this is something for next year

[Raedesu]

The most annoying thing that I have ever seen at an anime convention is the glomp circle. It's unnessesary, and is a HUGE fire hazard. And every year it gets bigger and bigger, and two years ago at Sakuracon I actually had my costume (Which was hard enough to walk in), stepped on, to which it tore a hole in it. When I said something, I was called the B word, but I had worked incredibly hard on my costume, and did not appreciate not even an apology when my costume got ripped by someone who was involved with the glomp circle. It's also incredibly hard to get to and from not only hotels, but to plan shoots in the areas where the glomp circle takes place.


I haven't been to Kumoricon in a few years, so I don't know if this is a thing that happens at Kumoricon, but I hope it NEVER gets as big as it does at Sakuracon, because honestly, it was fun for a while, but now it's just annoying, and a huge fire hazard, and everyone is done with it.

[KingOfSassgard]

The most annoying thing that I have ever seen at an anime convention is the glomp circle. It's unnessesary, and is a HUGE fire hazard. And every year it gets bigger and bigger, and two years ago at Sakuracon I actually had my costume (Which was hard enough to walk in), stepped on, to which it tore a hole in it. When I said something, I was called the B word, but I had worked incredibly hard on my costume, and did not appreciate not even an apology when my costume got ripped by someone who was involved with the glomp circle. It's also incredibly hard to get to and from not only hotels, but to plan shoots in the areas where the glomp circle takes place.


I haven't been to Kumoricon in a few years, so I don't know if this is a thing that happens at Kumoricon, but I hope it NEVER gets as big as it does at Sakuracon, because honestly, it was fun for a while, but now it's just annoying, and a huge fire hazard, and everyone is done with it.

I agree.


There is a glomp circle at Kumoricon, and it does get quite large. However, it's outside in the grassy area of the park so it's not much of a hassle. It just gets really loud and if you're sitting near it people may try to get you to play it (or even include you in it without your permission). Also if you're sitting near it, the circle will probably grow which may cause you to move out of it's way.

[BrokenPsyche]

Oh, one thing I remembered, people putting you down for scars, saying it ruins the cosplay
That's a problem I've been having. I get people telling me to stop cosplaying because my scars ruin it.


if someone has scars, don't point it out.

[@random]

Oh, one thing I remembered, people putting you down for scars, saying it ruins the cosplay
That's a problem I've been having. I get people telling me to stop cosplaying because my scars ruin it.


if someone has scars, don't point it out.

As with a lot of the entries on this thread... it really makes me sad that people need to be told these things. 

I would hate to run into anyone so unaware of the rules of civil behavior that they could even think this is acceptable, and I'm sorry that you've ever had to deal with such people.

[Washougal_Otaku]

Oh, one thing I remembered, people putting you down for scars, saying it ruins the cosplay
That's a problem I've been having. I get people telling me to stop cosplaying because my scars ruin it.


if someone has scars, don't point it out.

If you're interested, I believe that many types of scars can be hidden via make-up.  If not, I would hope that you wouldn't let the cosplay Nazis ruin your fun.

[Valkyrie542]

The most annoying thing that I have ever seen at an anime convention is the glomp circle. It's unnessesary, and is a HUGE fire hazard. And every year it gets bigger and bigger, and two years ago at Sakuracon I actually had my costume (Which was hard enough to walk in), stepped on, to which it tore a hole in it. When I said something, I was called the B word, but I had worked incredibly hard on my costume, and did not appreciate not even an apology when my costume got ripped by someone who was involved with the glomp circle. It's also incredibly hard to get to and from not only hotels, but to plan shoots in the areas where the glomp circle takes place.


I haven't been to Kumoricon in a few years, so I don't know if this is a thing that happens at Kumoricon, but I hope it NEVER gets as big as it does at Sakuracon, because honestly, it was fun for a while, but now it's just annoying, and a huge fire hazard, and everyone is done with it.

I think glomping in general needs to stop altogether, it's not fun.

A lot of people get knocked over and they may have anxiety or health problems that can be aggravated by the 'pile-driving' or shrieking as someone runs up and grabs them.
Some people standing behind the intended targets can be knocked over or punched in the face, costumes get ruined...

Personally, whenever a person asks me for a hug, I'm happy to give them one because they're calm and polite and I don't have to worry about getting injured.

[veraca]

Oh, one thing I remembered, people putting you down for scars, saying it ruins the cosplay
That's a problem I've been having. I get people telling me to stop cosplaying because my scars ruin it.


if someone has scars, don't point it out.

If you're interested, I believe that many types of scars can be hidden via make-up.  If not, I would hope that you wouldn't let the cosplay Nazis ruin your fun.

I shouldn't have to hide my scars because I'm afraid it'll offend some cosplay elitist who thinks it's bad. Those are the same kind of people who think a little pudge on the stomach or cheeks ruins a costume. That toxic attitude is not worth letting it sully your day, costume, or convention.
I have a huge birthmark on one of my legs, and I don't like wearing many of my costumes because I'm sure some day, someone will notice it and comment on it. The fact that I even worry about it upsetting someone is stupid and annoying.
I have a birthmark on my neck that someone in highschool thought was a hickey, and it felt like I was in the wrong to point out to her that it's just a birthmark. People have scars, people have dark patches. Maybe my scar is from a cat, maybe it's from a freak accident when I was 9; it's none of your business where the scar is from unless you know me personally.

[Valkyrie542]

Oh, one thing I remembered, people putting you down for scars, saying it ruins the cosplay
That's a problem I've been having. I get people telling me to stop cosplaying because my scars ruin it.


if someone has scars, don't point it out.

If you're interested, I believe that many types of scars can be hidden via make-up.  If not, I would hope that you wouldn't let the cosplay Nazis ruin your fun.

I shouldn't have to hide my scars because I'm afraid it'll offend some cosplay elitist who thinks it's bad. Those are the same kind of people who think a little pudge on the stomach or cheeks ruins a costume. That toxic attitude is not worth letting it sully your day, costume, or convention.
I have a huge birthmark on one of my legs, and I don't like wearing many of my costumes because I'm sure some day, someone will notice it and comment on it. The fact that I even worry about it upsetting someone is stupid and annoying.
I have a birthmark on my neck that someone in highschool thought was a hickey, and it felt like I was in the wrong to point out to her that it's just a birthmark. People have scars, people have dark patches. Maybe my scar is from a cat, maybe it's from a freak accident when I was 9; it's none of your business where the scar is from unless you know me personally.

In Washougal's defense, they weren't telling anyone that they should or need to wear makeup...

I believe that cosplayers can and should do whatever they want with their bodies and their costumes; it's always their business and choice.

No one likes an elitist, no one likes a person who dictates what a person should/shouldn't be/wear/do or say; they'll always be out there in the world but it's important to remember to love and be kind to yourself. You choose the costume and you choose the way you want to wear it, regardless of who you are or what you look like!

[Washougal_Otaku]

Thank you, Valkyrie.

If you were to have read the first three words in my previous post, veraca, you would've seen that I had indicated that it was an option.  If you had also read the last sentence (which shouldn't have been hard, on account of there only being two), you would've noticed that I indicated that nobody should bully someone else into cosplaying how they see fit.  To conclude, my message was intended for BrokenPsyche, not you.  I gave no words of advice to you, nor any "commands" on what you should do.  I have a gnarly scar, myself, and I don't give a [CENSORED] what people think of it.  All that I did was give a recommendation to someone else who might have been interested.  Don't be a jerk.

[BlackjackGabbiani]

Something I find annoying, tying into some previous conversations (though not about anybody in them, just the subject matter) is how people will report bullying and harassment AFTER the con and not DURING, because if you wait, nothing can really be done about it because you don't have any proof. DURING the con you can at least find eyewitnesses, but afterwards the odds of that plummet.

PLEASE, for the safety of you and everyone, REPORT WRONGDOING DURING THE CONVENTION.


Also, I don't think glomping itself should be banned. Just ask first.

[@random]

PLEASE, for the safety of you and everyone, REPORT WRONGDOING DURING THE CONVENTION.

This.

The staff can do something about it if someone is trying to ruin other people's convention experience, but only if we see it or hear about it during the convention. It breaks our hearts (and it happens every year) when we hear about griefers ruining people's con... after it's too late to effectively address it.

(For the record, I'm not speaking on behalf of the convention. Just myself.)

[Valkyrie542]

Something I find annoying, tying into some previous conversations (though not about anybody in them, just the subject matter) is how people will report bullying and harassment AFTER the con and not DURING, because if you wait, nothing can really be done about it because you don't have any proof. DURING the con you can at least find eyewitnesses, but afterwards the odds of that plummet.

PLEASE, for the safety of you and everyone, REPORT WRONGDOING DURING THE CONVENTION.


Also, I don't think glomping itself should be banned. Just ask first.

Agreed, thank you for bringing that up!

Everybody, if someone is harassing you or someone else - please report them, it curbs any more incidents with them and other attendees.

If you can, try to get a picture of the person(s) on your camera or phone, and write down what their name/badge number is so that con staff can properly identify them and kick them out/ban them.

I hear a lot of stories of people being verbally or physically harassed (not at Kcon, but elsewhere) and it's an awkward situation and they always say that they feel bad about reporting someone because 'they might be a good person, they're just wild today' or 'I don't want drama' or they worry about being blamed for their treatment because of what they wore and such.

Your first priority should be your comfort and safety, everything else comes second!

[BlackjackGabbiani]

And the comfort and safety of those around you. Witnesses can report stuff too.

[veraca]

Thank you, Valkyrie.

If you were to have read the first three words in my previous post, veraca, you would've seen that I had indicated that it was an option.  If you had also read the last sentence (which shouldn't have been hard, on account of there only being two), you would've noticed that I indicated that nobody should bully someone else into cosplaying how they see fit.  To conclude, my message was intended for BrokenPsyche, not you.  I gave no words of advice to you, nor any "commands" on what you should do.  I have a gnarly scar, myself, and I don't give a [CENSORED] what people think of it.  All that I did was give a recommendation to someone else who might have been interested.  Don't be a jerk.

I didn't mean to come off sounding like a jerk. I do sincerly apologize if that was the tone.
 What I meant is what I said though, that I, or no one, should feel like we have to hide a scar, or part of our body, because we're afraid to upset someone (ie. a stranger). I believe it's a very sad world we live in that people feel the need to cover their scars. If some stranger makes a fuss about a scar or part of your body, maybe they're the one with the problem- maybe they're the one wanting to hide something; and you should never let what they say get you down.
If someone really wants to hide a scar, tattoo or dark patches, make-up is great ways to go about it, and you're absolutely right.

[acton]

I have to say the 18+ panels.
Ok there is a place  adult subjects but  there no reason to dwell 1/2 hour on vuger sex innuendo or a n F-bomb every third word.

[Romo]

I have to say the 18+ panels.
Ok there is a place  adult subjects but  there no reason to dwell 1/2 hour on vuger sex innuendo or a n F-bomb every third word.

While it's not my least favorite part of conventions I agree with you on this. While I love the fact that 18+ panels have the ability to speak freely, and do their thing however they want, people don't use the freedom that way. A lot of people instead decide to be completely over the top vulgar or throw sex in your face. I feel like there's not a lot of middle ground, things are either for kids or for the really raunchy adults. Kinda sucks.


Don't get me wrong, I love humor like that sometimes, but it has to be done right otherwise it's just too much/uncomfortable.

[Ashok]

I feel like there's not a lot of middle ground, things are either for kids or for the really raunchy adults. Kinda sucks.

I must agree about not having a lot of middle ground, I am not old enough yet to attend the 18+ panels but at the same time it would be nice to have either some slightly dirty humor or at least certain cuss words that are avoided at panels for all ages due to younger people. At the Black Butler panel this year, there was a joke that people wanted to hear but it wasn't something for younger audiences since we had two young children in the crowd.

(I completely understand why Kumoricon has the 18+ panels in place for that stuff but it does get a little annoying attempting to keep everything rated G for the younger crowds, it might be a hassle but why not like 16+ panels or something where you can add some more words or humor that would be avoided otherwise but not going to far. My point might be stupid here, but I guess its what I feel, I will be 18 soon anyway so it won't really matter.) (really sorry this thing is a lil fricked up, still pretty new to the forums so I don't understand the quoting stuff and such so this message is going to look a lil weird sorry - Ashok)

[Citael]

Perhaps one of the most annoying things for me was loud squealing in the hotel ;w; i guess it's to be expected, though. I don't particularly like when people randomly shout out in panels or interupt the panelists....But perhaps the most annoying thing was girls kissing me without permission? I was dressed as Tamaki from OHSHC and if they asked, I'd be fine with a cheek kiss. Most girls did, of course, but some just for it. I ended up with black face paint/lipstick on me and it was sorta irritating, especially when I spent time on foundation and what not only to vigorously wipe my face to get it off owo other than this, con was fantastic for me!

[fairly_foxy]

People petting my service dog over and over again without permission.

She eventually had to stay home and I just used my service human.

[Hillopurkki]

People petting my service dog over and over again without permission.

She eventually had to stay home and I just used my service human.

I think I remember you (wasn't your dog's name Nova or something like that, and she was dressed as chibi moon?).


I was always careful to ask people with dogs if they were fine with being petted, because as someone who has friends with service dogs, I was pretty aware that not all of them appreciate/need petting.

[veraca]

My only huge complaint this year was Sunday night, some people in the Red Lion talking boisterously and laughing at 3am. My roommate had to ask them to be quiet and remind them that there's people actually trying to sleep, after the group had been talking for nearly 30 minutes. They did quiet down after that, but if you want to talk that loud, go to the end of the hall at the stairs or down into the lobby...

[marissaofunderground]

This year, for me it was constantly being asked for my picture. Normally I only have sporadic requests throughout the day, like once every couple of hours, or just once in an hour, then I get a picture request five hours later. But when I was Anna on Day 1, nobody would leave me alone! Every minute, another picture request, everywhere I went. I couldn't text, take pictures, go to panels or the bathroom, or eat in peace. It got so bad I had to make a sign telling people to stop, I had had enough. Lesson learned: Never cosplay as a character on the Bingo list ever again. I certainly won't reprise my Anna cosplay next year after what happened this year. Oddly enough, Pinkie Pie is on the list as well, but I get the request far less often (once every few hours or so, maybe 3-4 in two hours but not every few minutes and being stopped and hounded constantly like I did as Anna), probably due to the fact that she's been on the list since 2012 and there are a lot more Pinkie cosplayers out there. I enjoy people admiring my cosplay and wanting pictures, but too much is too much.

[Ichiro]

People asking for a picture after I just took off my fursuit head. That thing is seriously HOT!

[Prince McKupo]

People asking for a picture after I just took off my fursuit head. That thing is seriously HOT!

I definitely agree with this one.  Honestly, people do need to recognize when a mascot cosplayer is taking a rest.  Though, in hindsight, I could have just respectfully declined, but still...I wouldn't take a picture of someone who is visibly suffering, hehe... Also!  Knocking on the side of my head to get my attention, that really ground my gears, but held my annoyance until I got back to my room and punched a pillow.

Oh, and another complaint I had was people being seemingly unable to close their room doors quietly at the Hilton, I had to deal with slamming doors well past 9pm through all 5 days (including Day 0).

[JaegerDarkness]

Another thing that can be annoying is someone grabbing a Furry Cosplayer's tail I'm guilty of this offense, but I've never committed this offense at Kumoricon.

[Cal the Tactcian]

I was cosplaying as Wizard King Cartman, and multiple times I had people talking about references, and I don't understand these references or what to say afterwards considering I don't play the game nor watch all South Park episodes. I'm sorry guys, just because I cosplay as someone popular doesn't mean I come with all the knowledge of the fandom :/

[EveofAbyss]

You don't think it's just sort of implied by cosplaying something that you actually enjoy the thing you're cosplaying from? I'm all for not making assumptions about other people, but if I saw someone cosplaying from something I loved, my first thought would be that they had some connection to the fandom, some reason more than just "it's a popular character".

I don't know what you could do to curb these misconceptions aside from wearing a sign that says "I'm not actually that into South Park". I think for the majority of people, cosplay implies a passion or investment in a fandom.

[dark4ever]

This year, for me it was constantly being asked for my picture. Normally I only have sporadic requests throughout the day, like once every couple of hours, or just once in an hour, then I get a picture request five hours later. But when I was Anna on Day 1, nobody would leave me alone! Every minute, another picture request, everywhere I went. I couldn't text, take pictures, go to panels or the bathroom, or eat in peace. It got so bad I had to make a sign telling people to stop, I had had enough. Lesson learned: Never cosplay as a character on the Bingo list ever again. I certainly won't reprise my Anna cosplay next year after what happened this year. Oddly enough, Pinkie Pie is on the list as well, but I get the request far less often (once every few hours or so, maybe 3-4 in two hours but not every few minutes and being stopped and hounded constantly like I did as Anna), probably due to the fact that she's been on the list since 2012 and there are a lot more Pinkie cosplayers out there. I enjoy people admiring my cosplay and wanting pictures, but too much is too much.

You don't know what the bingo card is until the con starts, though. They make the boards passed on who's cosplaying what and interest in the forums. Though I do get this one- I was the Undertaker back in 2011 when he was on the board, and there were only four of us during the weekend. The funniest one was people stopping me for pictures and then asking "Who are you again?". But still, I had nights when I just didn't cosplay because I was tired and didn't want my picture taken.

[iBubbleTeax3]

This year, for me it was constantly being asked for my picture. Normally I only have sporadic requests throughout the day, like once every couple of hours, or just once in an hour, then I get a picture request five hours later. But when I was Anna on Day 1, nobody would leave me alone! Every minute, another picture request, everywhere I went. I couldn't text, take pictures, go to panels or the bathroom, or eat in peace. It got so bad I had to make a sign telling people to stop, I had had enough. Lesson learned: Never cosplay as a character on the Bingo list ever again. I certainly won't reprise my Anna cosplay next year after what happened this year. Oddly enough, Pinkie Pie is on the list as well, but I get the request far less often (once every few hours or so, maybe 3-4 in two hours but not every few minutes and being stopped and hounded constantly like I did as Anna), probably due to the fact that she's been on the list since 2012 and there are a lot more Pinkie cosplayers out there. I enjoy people admiring my cosplay and wanting pictures, but too much is too much.

This may seem a little off topic right now but I was on the Bingo Board for 2013 as Hibiki from Devil Survivor 2. It's funny for me since I did have people ask me for pictures but at the same time, I think I screw over a lot of people because I only wore him for like 1 or 2 hours on Day 0 and Day 2 since I assumed I was the only Hibiki cosplayer (As I didn't see any other ones during my time there). Though that must sound horrible when you're trying to do something but can't due to people constantly asking for pictures D:
It would be nice to have the Bingo list ahead of time just for the sake of preventing being bombarded by pictures. Some people, kind of like myself, hate having so much pictures taken after awhile and this would be a great way to decide whether or not you should cosplay a certain character who happens to be on the board.


And back on topic; the most annoying thing for me at the convention is wandering by myself with little to no one to talk to.
My best friend couldn't attend the con, my friend whom I was suppose to hang out with had other people to attend to, and really, I don't have much in common with people since I have a very weak voice in the first place to try and speak up.

Another annoying thing: When artists in the artist alley freaking ignore you when you're trying to buy something. Seriously, I was trying to get their attention by waving and trying to speak up (Since my voice was strain on Day 1) and all they did was continue to talk to each other until LITERALLY 3 minutes later they noticed me. This really made me not want to buy any of their merchandise... I understand they want to keep themselves entertained, but it's not great to keep a costumer waiting for too long when they in fact are trying to get their attention.

[Valkyrie542]

A couple of things from this year:

-There was a bible thumper in the park during the weekend. I don't know who that man was or who he was associated with, but he stood in the park - closer to the entrances where people milled in and out and close to the fountain - and he would stop people. I got stopped and he talked my ear off, tried to touch my hands and tried following me when I was politely excusing myself and walking away. It was really creepy and uncomfortable for me and I hope he won't turn up next year. Lesson learned: Just keep on walking!

-The photobooth. I always go and I really appreciate SeeSpotPrint's time and effort, but I was really disappointed on the fourth and final day. The last day is supposed to be the day when people get their pictures onto a USB - no more pictures were supposed to be taken. That's what has always been planned and promised in previous years. But, this year, the photographer was still taking pictures of people and he was working alone, his tech guy and the rest of the crew hadn't been there and I waited in the studio for them to come for two hours. I guess I'll just have to plan on not bringing a USB in the future since it's so busy during the weekend; but it's disheartening that the photographer hadn't kept his word.

-It was great that all of the games and panels were held at The Hilton, it's more kind on the feet than to travel back and forth between there and The Red Lion. But, a lot of the tutorials were held in the morning while the games and events were held closer to nighttime, which was impossible to go to because by then I was toast. I hope that all the events are spread out throughout the day in the future.

-Also, I still cannot believe that staff held all the badges at the con this year. The lines at registration were ridiculous but I'm happy that everyone remained calm and the lines were kept neatly organized. If the staff chooses to hold the badges at the hotel from now on, I hope they'll get more fans in the basement because it was incredibly warm down there when I got mine on Day 0.

Other than that, this year was really great and I had a lot of fun; I hope it's just as eventful next year!

[dark4ever]

-The photobooth. I always go and I really appreciate SeeSpotPrint's time and effort, but I was really disappointed on the fourth and final day. The last day is supposed to be the day when people get their pictures onto a USB - no more pictures were supposed to be taken. That's what has always been planned and promised in previous years. But, this year, the photographer was still taking pictures of people and he was working alone, his tech guy and the rest of the crew hadn't been there and I waited in the studio for them to come for two hours. I guess I'll just have to plan on not bringing a USB in the future since it's so busy during the weekend; but it's disheartening that the photographer hadn't kept his word.

My group and I stood in line for two hours, and two groups went in. I know he was busy and probably taking a break or something, but he never told us. We were just thinking that he was gone or taking really long. In years past, we take maybe ten minutes in the photobooth, so I have no idea why it was taking so long when we were in line (we ended up giving up because everyone was starving)

[kuroki-neko]

@bubbletea
And back on topic; the most annoying thing for me at the convention is wandering by myself with little to no one to talk to.
My best friend couldn't attend the con, my friend whom I was suppose to hang out with had other people to attend to, and really, I don't have much in common with people since I have a very weak voice in the first place to try and speak up.


I felt the same way, I don't have much in common with allot of people at cons these days because im into older series most people do not know about mainly.

[KingOfAutumn]

I would have to say my number one pet peeve at cons is people who interrupt panels (I know this has been said, but it seriously needs to stop).
I only went to 3 panels: the Pandora Hearts Tea Party, the Black Butler Tea Party, and the Ouran panel (because it was my Girl Friend's first Con and she really wanted to go them).


The Pandora Hearts panel was awesome, since there wasn't that many people attending, it turned into a group conversation. We all kind of contributed, it was like we were hanging out in character.


The Black Butler panel on the other hand… The entire room was filled to the brim. It was an overall good panel… But there was a few cosplayers in particular that just needed to stop interrupting. I could tell the panelists were getting annoyed, and frankly so was I.


And the Ouran Panel was just ridiculous. I was cosplaying Honey (though I was not part of the panel) and a few of the other hosts we're sitting in the rows. We were asked to participate. Some people just needed to stop talking. Some of them would shout just random things that in no way contributed to the conversation.
Going along with the Ouran panel, another thing that annoyed me was some of the requests.
What fan doesn't want to request their favourite character to do something? But keep it reasonable. It was 11pm, I went home then came back just for that panel since we were asked by the panelists to do so. One girl in particular (who kind of annoyed me to begin with) requested a squealing contest.
Seriously? It's 11pm.


Otherwise, the panel was pretty funny (I got labeled as the "evil honey" because I was tired out of my mind).
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Then just a list of things I can't stand: (Most of which have been said)
- Glomp Circle. It was fun my first couple of years but it's kind of ridiculous now. And if they must do glomp circle, they should at least not shout. For the love of god, stop shouting.
- Hall blockers. This annoys me everywhere, not just at cons. Like seriously, there's no reason for you to stand right there.
- People who don't understand no. This one is pretty obvious.
- Being misgendered. I know they can't help it, and I don't blame them for it… But it still bothers me.
- Having my picture taken without permission. This really pisses me off. It's really sketchy that they can't stop for 2 seconds to ask me for my picture. I got a lot of this when I was in my Guro lolita.
- Loud people. I know I was loud my first 2 cons but I quickly learned. I see the same people year after year not controlling their voices. Some of which are older than me (which is sad because i'm 15).
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. _ . Yea, most of what irks me has been said but I must emphasize that this is annoying. Maybe someone will get it (I learned con behavior on this thread, and became a better, more well-mannered attendee).

[bambie d. leviathan]

-The photobooth. I always go and I really appreciate SeeSpotPrint's time and effort, but I was really disappointed on the fourth and final day. The last day is supposed to be the day when people get their pictures onto a USB - no more pictures were supposed to be taken. That's what has always been planned and promised in previous years. But, this year, the photographer was still taking pictures of people and he was working alone, his tech guy and the rest of the crew hadn't been there and I waited in the studio for them to come for two hours. I guess I'll just have to plan on not bringing a USB in the future since it's so busy during the weekend; but it's disheartening that the photographer hadn't kept his word.

My group and I stood in line for two hours, and two groups went in. I know he was busy and probably taking a break or something, but he never told us. We were just thinking that he was gone or taking really long. In years past, we take maybe ten minutes in the photobooth, so I have no idea why it was taking so long when we were in line (we ended up giving up because everyone was starving)

Heya, if you've got any feedback about PhotoBooth or ideas to make it better, please email me at photospott@gmail.com so I can get these to Spott the Photographer

Bambie
Photographer's Assistant
On The Spott Photography

[Washougal_Otaku]

Thank you, Valkyrie.

If you were to have read the first three words in my previous post, veraca, you would've seen that I had indicated that it was an option.  If you had also read the last sentence (which shouldn't have been hard, on account of there only being two), you would've noticed that I indicated that nobody should bully someone else into cosplaying how they see fit.  To conclude, my message was intended for BrokenPsyche, not you.  I gave no words of advice to you, nor any "commands" on what you should do.  I have a gnarly scar, myself, and I don't give a [CENSORED] what people think of it.  All that I did was give a recommendation to someone else who might have been interested.  Don't be a jerk.

I didn't mean to come off sounding like a jerk. I do sincerly apologize if that was the tone.
 What I meant is what I said though, that I, or no one, should feel like we have to hide a scar, or part of our body, because we're afraid to upset someone (ie. a stranger). I believe it's a very sad world we live in that people feel the need to cover their scars. If some stranger makes a fuss about a scar or part of your body, maybe they're the one with the problem- maybe they're the one wanting to hide something; and you should never let what they say get you down.
If someone really wants to hide a scar, tattoo or dark patches, make-up is great ways to go about it, and you're absolutely right.

I accept your apology.

[PandaPanda]

The most annoying thing for me is being ridiculed for not being skinny. Kumoricon 2014 was my very first con and my very first time cosplaying. I was told many times that I shouldn't cosplay because I'm not pretty nor am I skinny. I was told I'm too fat and too ugly to be apart of the cosplay community. That made me super depressed.

I got my picture taken a couple of times which lifted my spirits~ And I had some people ask about cosplay~ I didn't cosplay any specific characters, I was my own creations~ I enjoyed people asking me how I did my make up and explain my characters. I'm not good with sewing or fabrics so I usually buy my outfits, but I love prosthetic make up~ Especially gore.

I'm hoping 2015 will be easier on me...I've been dieting and exercising a lot and hoping to drop as much weight as possible until next con so I can look decent cosplaying~

[Sailor-Jeimi]

Know what..Nvm..SOMEONE will come and say something bad about me if I leave that up..Screw it

[GreenBrownGirlSasori]

sorry for cursing so much guys. At con this year most people were pretty nice, but there were a few things that annoyed me.
1. Maid squad staffer making one cash line at registration wait 3hrs before letting anyone through, meanwhile the other cash line emptied out five times at least before they let our line move at all. I was standing in the same spot from 7:30 to 10:30. I hope they don't let that girl work lines ever again.
2. People who interrupt panelists while they are talking, or heckle them. There was this one Sherlock cosplayer that went to the Hetalia: Ask a Nation and the Anime Murder Game panels and she was rude to the panelists at each one, especially the England and the Jack Frost cosplayers. She made one of the panelists cry after the panel was over. I was shocked.
3. Cell reception in the videogame room was non-existent.  My cousin got lost and I was searching for him all day because I couldn't get ahold of him on his cellphone, because he decided to wait for me down in the gaming area.

[Washougal_Otaku]

The most annoying thing for me is being ridiculed for not being skinny. Kumoricon 2014 was my very first con and my very first time cosplaying. I was told many times that I shouldn't cosplay because I'm not pretty nor am I skinny. I was told I'm too fat and too ugly to be apart of the cosplay community. That made me super depressed.

Anyone who told you that would deserve to be kicked out of the cosplay community.  They're probably the types who treat cosplay as the new "cool" thing to do and only belongs to "pretty" people.  Just ignore them, because they are worthless.

2. People who interrupt panelists while they are talking, or heckle them. There was this one Sherlock cosplayer that went to the Hetalia: Ask a Nation and the Anime Murder Game panels and she was rude to the panelists at each one, especially the England and the Jack Frost cosplayers. She made one of the panelists cry after the panel was over. I was shocked.

As a panelist who often gets interrupted, thank you for understanding.

[JaegerDarkness]

Me: MARCO!!
Connie Springer: POLO!!
Jean Kirschstein: *kicks our asses*

[KingOfSassgard]

Getting crude remarks and being hit on when I'm in a cosplay that is considered "sexy". It's not exactly the flirting part that gets me, it's when they will not stop until I am about to get a staff member. Also, "OH! You like anime/comics then who am I?", then when I genuinely don't know, they call it out and it's very frustrating.