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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #100 on: May 18, 2011, 12:42:21 am »
I WAS going to do Roy Mustang and Greedling, but I'm not sure about Greedling anymore. I'm thinking of doing Eyepatch Roy the first day, Casual Roy(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LFHXCQiCqMM/SwP648g83vI/AAAAAAAAQ1w/WxMGPo-wI8w/s1600/01+Mustang+and+Grumman.jpg) the second day, and normal Roy the last day.
I just love Roy too much and I can actually do his voice and I still have so much more for Greed, I might save him for some other time...
Plus I'm in love with his casual wear.

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Kumoricon 2011 cosplays:
Day0: Hunny (Ouran Host Club) COMPLETE
Day1 (possibly late night panels): Ran Mao (Black Butler) 50%
Day2: Kaoru Hitachin (Ouran Host Club) 90%
Ball/Rave: May (pokemon)
Day3: pirate

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #101 on: May 18, 2011, 09:29:45 am »
Okay , so far my list consists of ;

Roy mustang - ( fma )
Cross marian - ( dgrayman )
Jack vessalius - ( pandora hearts )
Annd! *drum rolls*
Chuck - ( panty & stocking w/ garterbelt )

8D bring two new cosplays to kcon ~
and my precious roy back with my sign xD
kcon plans 2013 ' plans ;

Minato Arisato - P3 ( 50% )
Renzou Shima - AnE ( 0% )
Finny in wonderland - Kuroshitsuji ( 0% )

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #102 on: May 18, 2011, 04:48:11 pm »
I'll either be coming as Victoria Seras in her "blood" version, Leona Heidern from King of Fighters or Haruhi Fujioka from Ouran Host Club ^^

I don't know which yet!
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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #103 on: May 18, 2011, 07:03:16 pm »
I'll probably be going as Yuki Cross from VK, Rumoring!Victoria Seras(blue outfit..)from Hellsing, and Italy from Hetalia with my boyfriend accompanying me as Germany! ;)
I support all Hetalia pairings! And I can't wait for K-con next year!! Fanfic contest time!!


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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #104 on: May 18, 2011, 10:51:00 pm »
Added Combustion "aka Sparky-Sparky-Boom" Man from Avatar to my attempted cosplay list. May or may not happen, but we'll see how things turn out.

Also, I am so happy to see all the Black Butler love! I just started watching through it and really dig it, so I'll be excited to see some well-done Ciels and Sebastians!  ;D


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« Reply #105 on: May 18, 2011, 10:56:04 pm »
Added Combustion "aka Sparky-Sparky-Boom" Man from Avatar to my attempted cosplay list. May or may not happen, but we'll see how things turn out.

Also, I am so happy to see all the Black Butler love! I just started watching through it and really dig it, so I'll be excited to see some well-done Ciels and Sebastians!  ;D
dude, i must find you and take pictures of you if you pull off sparky sparky boom man. ill be doing a cosplay from black butler for a day. see if you can recognize me! ^^so excited to see this pulled off!
Kumoricon 2011 cosplays:
Day0: Hunny (Ouran Host Club) COMPLETE
Day1 (possibly late night panels): Ran Mao (Black Butler) 50%
Day2: Kaoru Hitachin (Ouran Host Club) 90%
Ball/Rave: May (pokemon)
Day3: pirate

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #106 on: May 18, 2011, 11:00:23 pm »
I am only about halfway through Black Butler (thanks Netflix...), so I do not know who Mao is yet, but regardless I'm still excited and will keep an eye out!

I really hope to get Combustion done. It would be really fun, I reckon, heh.


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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #107 on: May 18, 2011, 11:02:58 pm »
ran mao is the chinese girl who sits in lau's lap. she doesnt speak a word. hopefully, i can make her weapons. and then, i might do either bellosom from pokemon, or yuuki cross from vampire knight. maybe ill pull out my steampunk queen of hearts instead... who knows.
Kumoricon 2011 cosplays:
Day0: Hunny (Ouran Host Club) COMPLETE
Day1 (possibly late night panels): Ran Mao (Black Butler) 50%
Day2: Kaoru Hitachin (Ouran Host Club) 90%
Ball/Rave: May (pokemon)
Day3: pirate

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #108 on: May 20, 2011, 09:38:25 am »
Going with trigun this year.  It will be interesting.  A short fat girl crosplaying a couple tall skinny guys.  Might do a female version of Wolfwood.  I'm still on the fence with that decision, but the cross punisher will be cool.

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #109 on: May 20, 2011, 09:52:52 am »
Good luck with your cosplay decisions, Drauska. If I can suggest anything (and you certainly don't have to take it), I'd just say cosplay to your body type. I know personally, I don't feel good about my cosplay if I have to compromise or know I won't be living up to the character, and you really only do yourself a disservice in cosplaying characters you feel don't fit you physically.

Anyway, just a bit of advice. There are characters of all shapes and sizes, and I personally know how it can be hard to find one that you feel connected to AND suits you physically, but (at least for me) it is such a benefit and boost to your final product if you can cosplay to your body type. Makes for a much better product.

But, anyway, shutting up now. *zips lips*  :)


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« Reply #110 on: May 20, 2011, 01:43:40 pm »
Good luck with your cosplay decisions, Drauska. If I can suggest anything (and you certainly don't have to take it), I'd just say cosplay to your body type. I know personally, I don't feel good about my cosplay if I have to compromise or know I won't be living up to the character, and you really only do yourself a disservice in cosplaying characters you feel don't fit you physically.

Anyway, just a bit of advice. There are characters of all shapes and sizes, and I personally know how it can be hard to find one that you feel connected to AND suits you physically, but (at least for me) it is such a benefit and boost to your final product if you can cosplay to your body type. Makes for a much better product.

But, anyway, shutting up now. *zips lips*  :)

Thanks for the input but I'm just gonna go have fun with it.  I will probably end up on some kind of funny epic fail poster but O well.  Cheers!

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #111 on: May 20, 2011, 01:49:31 pm »
Well as long as you have fun with it, rock on. ^_^


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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #112 on: May 21, 2011, 01:13:49 am »
Working on Deadpool. (wapin X) and Germany ( hetalia )
Need help fing stuff.

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #113 on: May 21, 2011, 08:49:18 am »
I'll be stoked to see your Deadpool. What kind of help do you need?


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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #114 on: May 24, 2011, 08:50:04 am »
I need maybe some holsters. But I need to find a uniform for the Germany. (chep too)

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #115 on: May 25, 2011, 02:07:09 pm »
I'm going to go as Sweden from Hetalia and Denmark from Hetalia
My friends are going as Japan, Norway, France and Canada from Hetalia and Sebastian from Black Butler.
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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #116 on: May 26, 2011, 12:38:26 pm »
Got most of the next year planned out cosplay wise which is a good feeling...

Kumoricon I'm doing Jacqueline from Arakawa, Terra in her Slade's Apprentice uniform from Teen Titans, and I'm wearing Chane for the Baccano! gathering.

Thankfully I've already worn Chane a bunch of times so I just need to touch it up a bit, Jacqueline is about 50% done since I originally planned to wear her to Sakuracon but ran out of time, so the only cosplay that I really need to worry about getting done is Terra. =]
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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #117 on: May 31, 2011, 06:59:40 pm »
Eridan (of Homestuck fame, sciencewand), Neuro (of Majin Tantei Nogami Neuro fame), and Gumi (of Vocaloid fame, but specifically Matroyshka).

So basically I get to walk around smiling and being creepy. 8D Heck yes!

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« Reply #118 on: June 10, 2011, 08:16:22 pm »
I am working on my costume right now there is two to this character. I am going to try to be Ai Enma from Hell girl

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #119 on: June 12, 2011, 06:53:36 pm »
Well me and my boyfriend decided we're going as Anri and Mikado from Durarara!!



Bwahahaha!!
We just gotta make our own cosplays now cuz i have no more money after buying my Ciel cosplay ^~^'''
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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #120 on: June 12, 2011, 11:01:53 pm »

You n kevin look cute (;
Like, what the frap~!!
You guys would make the perfect lookin Mikado and Anri O 3 O

BUTTTT as for me im juss doin Lizzy from Kuroshituji.. i dont have enough money to do a Rin cosplay > 3 <
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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #121 on: June 12, 2011, 11:38:13 pm »
ive added sarutobi sasuke fro sengoku basra to my list ~
kcon plans 2013 ' plans ;

Minato Arisato - P3 ( 50% )
Renzou Shima - AnE ( 0% )
Finny in wonderland - Kuroshitsuji ( 0% )

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #122 on: June 14, 2011, 10:51:49 am »
My list consists of Princess Euphemia (Code Geass) for sure.
The my secondary-I'm-not-so-sure-but-I-still-wanna-do-these-hopefully-for-this-con cosplays are: Princess Peach (Super Smash Bros Brawl), Juliet (Rome x Juliet), Stocking (Pant and Stocking) and Angel Mort Mion (Higurashi).
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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #123 on: June 15, 2011, 08:53:54 pm »
I'll be doing The Undertaker from Kuroshitsuji and a Charmander cosplay >.< So excited! First year with legit group! Our Kuroshitsuji group came out really well! We might even have a Soma...
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Axel (Kingdom Hearts 3, end game outfit)
Kylo Ren (Star Wars)
Keyleth (Critical Role, opening look)

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #124 on: June 19, 2011, 01:42:20 pm »
no days set yet, But I'm Going as Alfred F. Jones/America(hetalia), Roderich Elderstein/Austria(hetalia) for the ball, and Charles/cherry(vassalord)

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #125 on: June 19, 2011, 02:56:25 pm »
I'm going to be Victorique (from Gosick) on the day of the ball and Winry (from FMA) on on one of the other days. I'm still trying to figure out who else I'm gonna be, but I very well might run out of time and just end up with those two.  :)

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #126 on: June 19, 2011, 03:49:50 pm »
Light-ff13
Gun slayer / other Rin -vocliods -new
Princess yue-avtar-new
Aion Ranger-aion
Mar - Kingdom hearts

thats all i got atm
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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #127 on: June 20, 2011, 11:04:47 am »
I'm going as Kamui Gakupo of VOCALOID for most of con. I'll probably switch to Sebastian Michaelis on day 3. But showing up as Kamui Gakupo pre-reg day, day 1 and 2.
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Count of Monte Cristo ~GANKUTSUOU~

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #128 on: June 21, 2011, 08:19:35 pm »
Due to lack of budget I am only able to go as Sayaka Miki this year, though I intend to cosplay as...

Yui from Angel Beats!
Erika Furudo from Umineko no Naku Koro ni
Nagi Sanzen'in from Hayate no Gotoku
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Fuuko Ibuki from Clannad

...sometime in the future.
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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #129 on: June 25, 2011, 06:41:29 pm »
jeebus I haven't been on here since last year around this time xD; ah life I <3 you

So my sis and I are going as all Kingdom Hearts, since that's what we did last year...and it's much less packing on our part x.x

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #130 on: July 05, 2011, 10:14:14 am »
Sanji from One Piece, don't have a big budget this year.  May possibly go as Zoro from One Piece for a day as well since I still have all the gear lying around from 2008.

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« Reply #131 on: July 07, 2011, 11:54:28 pm »
I'm going as Taokaka from Calamity Trigger. Probably for only one day because I have a feeling its going to be hard to see. Other than tao I might go as a pokemon trainer or Rolly Roll from Billy Hatcher. Can't wait! :3

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #132 on: July 08, 2011, 09:20:54 am »
Hello everyone! This will be my first time attending Kumori Con (not my first convention though... and I will be coming down from British Columbia) ... I will be cosplaying as Canada from Axis Powers Hetalia, and Possibly England as well ... and Iruka-sensei from Naruto! ^__^
Possible Cosplays for Kumori Con 2012
Pirate!England, Canada, Romano, and/or Australia from Hetalia
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« Reply #133 on: July 12, 2011, 12:07:11 pm »
I'm going with the easy ones, and doing The Great Fairy from Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Saria from Zelda: Ocarina of Time, and Summoner Yuna from Final Fantasy X. Although I am having second thoughts about Saria. Its a fairly easy costume to do, and to manipulate into something else.

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #134 on: July 19, 2011, 01:25:11 pm »
I am officially going to kumoricon once more!
Thank you financial aid for the money lol

Cosplays for this year!!!!!!

Punk Minnie Mouse (was loli minnie, but changed my mind)
Hello Kitty Panda
Pajama Minnie Mouse (or just jammie day cuz I live down the street from the hotel)

If anyone wants to just chat about cosplay ideas and such, text or email me. I need more friends in the vancouver area that cosplay ;-;
Or if you go to Clark College and youre a cosplayer/anime fan, lemmie know so I can hang out with you when i am bored lol

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #135 on: July 19, 2011, 02:56:12 pm »
I applaud everyone who does more than one cosplay! I can't wait til I have the money to do more that one at a time! :D This year I will be Kaname Kuran from Vampire Knight, my girlfriend is being Yuki Cross! <3
Kumoricon 2012: Princess Bubblegum.. 90%.. I just need to style my wig XC

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« Reply #136 on: July 19, 2011, 05:30:31 pm »
I am going as Shiva from FFX - just about done the EVIL EVIL wig! My fiance is going as Kimarhi and we've got a couple friends going as Yuna and Auron!!! it shall be awesome. Also, if I have time to make them, I will also be going as Yuki cross and my fiance as Yagari Toga from Vampire Knight!!!
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« Reply #137 on: July 19, 2011, 06:00:08 pm »
lul interesting pairing >w< Y love yagari though!
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« Reply #138 on: July 19, 2011, 06:36:22 pm »
I'll be

Rhyme (TWEWY)
Beatrice (Umineko)
Kneesocks (P&S)

final decision!
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« Reply #139 on: July 19, 2011, 08:09:08 pm »
I've decided to add a last minute Gaz cosplay to my collection. If i can't make it in time for this con, i will definitely use it next year.

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« Reply #140 on: July 19, 2011, 09:10:27 pm »
im taking rukia, rinoa, vanille, and queen beryl
kumoicon 2013:
day 0: ANIMAL CROSSING Mayor
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day 1: afternoon- Terra (ff6)
day 2: chibi moon (sailor moon)
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« Reply #141 on: July 23, 2011, 02:52:48 pm »
Ritsu-chan,
im a fan of zeroxyuki but my fiance has more of a kaname/yagari look so not couplecosplaying this time, and yes yagari is awesome!!!
Kumoricon 2011
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« Reply #142 on: July 26, 2011, 09:32:58 pm »
I'm going to be Victorique (from Gosick) on the day of the ball and Winry (from FMA) on on one of the other days. I'm still trying to figure out who else I'm gonna be, but I very well might run out of time and just end up with those two.  :)

Yay Winry! I bet that will be great.  ;D I look forward to seeing you.

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #143 on: July 29, 2011, 09:24:14 pm »
 I'll be  going as a version of young Integra Hellsing.
This'll be my first time going to a con, so, I'm pretty excited!
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Kumori-con 2013 cosplay plans:
Day zero: Sollux Captor
Day one: Meenah peixes
Day two: Fem! Grand highblood.
Day three: We leave at about 1:30 pm, and it's a long drive home, so no cosplay on day three. Too much make up to take on and off, haha.

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« Reply #144 on: July 30, 2011, 11:49:58 am »
Winry Rockbell from Fullmetal Alchemist,Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland, and Canada from Hetalia :3

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« Reply #145 on: July 30, 2011, 12:57:48 pm »
I love canada so much! <3
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« Reply #146 on: July 30, 2011, 06:15:30 pm »
I'll be packing Crystal (Pokemon Crystal), Alice (Pandora Hearts), secret cosplay (? ? ?), Haruhi Fujioka (OHSHC), Mio (K-ON! ("Don't say "lazy"" and "NO, Thank You!!")), and Haruhi Suzumiya (TMoHS).
I'll wear the first three for sure, the others are filler.
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NO, Thank You!!Mio (K-ON!!) - 100%
Haruhi Suzumiya (TMoHS) - 100%
Sollux (Homestuck) - 100%
Crystal (Pokemon Crystal Version) - 100%
Don't say "lazy"!Mio (K-ON!) - 100%
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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #147 on: July 31, 2011, 08:34:24 pm »
For Kumoricon 2011 I have three definites and two maybes:

Cosplays:
M.Bison (Street Fighter)
Ryu (Street Fighter)
Bright Noa (Mobile Suit Gundam)

Cosplays (maybes):
Hollow Ichigo from Bleach
Loke from Fairy Tail
Cosplays for Kumoricon 2011
M.Bison (Street Fighter)
Ichigo Kurosaki (Bleach)
Shino Aburame (Naruto: Shippuuden)
Ryu (Street Fighter)

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #148 on: August 02, 2011, 10:34:59 pm »
So it's looking like I'm gonna be doing Gijinka White Mokona Day 1, Sailor Uranus Day 2, and I'm not sure which of the two on Day 3, plus I've got my Susan cosplay to change into for the Doctor Who photoshoot.

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Re: Kumoricon 2011 - Free For All, Who are you Gonna Cosplay? Thread
« Reply #149 on: August 06, 2011, 06:57:49 pm »
Expect to see a Drifloon gijinka floating around, as well as my balloon version of him. I can't wait to see all these cosplay >w<
Drifloon - 90%, just missing balloon buddy
Cubone - Not even started, but things fall together.
Cat Girl #1987604134 - Always finished, always ready if everything else fails.

Drifloon is most likely days 1 & 2, with Cubone being day 3/backup.