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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Photoshoot List Started~)
« Reply #2400 on: August 25, 2011, 10:28:29 am »
Yay~ :D I'm excited for it too since it's my first Hetalia photoshoot. It'll be funnnn~

And Sakiiii~ It'd be great to have a Fem!Prussia twin. c: I plan to wear mine Sunday, what about you?
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Photoshoot List Started~)
« Reply #2401 on: August 25, 2011, 10:34:34 am »
I think this would really be my first big shoot. Wich I can't wait for. I think the last time I saw alot of hetalia cosplayers was last year's hetalia day in Eugene.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Photoshoot List Started~)
« Reply #2402 on: August 25, 2011, 11:47:13 am »
I think this would really be my first big shoot. Wich I can't wait for. I think the last time I saw alot of hetalia cosplayers was last year's hetalia day in Eugene.

Same for me, lol.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Photoshoot List Started~)
« Reply #2403 on: August 25, 2011, 02:58:52 pm »
Dude, I'm excited for it. I actually reworked my costume list so I could go to both. So expect to see my Netherlands and my 2P!Prussia, Saturday and Sunday accordingly.
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I'm just doing fem!Prussia and Prussia. For various reasons, Kei and I had to drop succession. >:
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Photoshoot List Started~)
« Reply #2404 on: August 25, 2011, 04:46:40 pm »
T. T I'm sorry to hear that, miria!! I hate it when that happens.

And I am wearing it until after the shoot on Sunday. Then I have decided that I need to gain use of my arm again. It has very little mobility in the armor.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Photoshoot List Started~)
« Reply #2405 on: August 25, 2011, 04:47:16 pm »
BAH. MOBILITY. WHO NEEDS THAT.

xD But seriously. I'll have to get some pics with you.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Photoshoot List Started~)
« Reply #2406 on: August 25, 2011, 07:05:45 pm »
I'd love pics with both of you guys :3
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Photoshoot List Started~)
« Reply #2407 on: August 25, 2011, 11:21:38 pm »
I'm excited too~ Even though I'm still working on getting things sewn together, wigs styled, and details ordered/made.

I'll likely be at the shoots as 2P!Fem!Germany and Fem!Austria, and probably even in that order. :>
Miria, our Mangary is probably going to jump ship until a later con, as no suitable fabric that met all requirements has been found, and she's citing the fact that she bought Hungary's military uniform off of someone as reason enough to delay it. So we're going to have an all female Frying Pangle.


Also, that feel when you have the materials needed for Fem!Prussia due to a mixup, a present, and buying a whole bolt of dark blue fabric. ;;
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2408 on: August 26, 2011, 03:46:08 am »
Double post, whoop~

Schedule is out. I'll give it a quick check, but the final decision'll be made when I'm actually awake~

Checking. According to the schedule, Todd's signing autographs at 4 pm and running a dubbing panel with Chris Cason at 1:30-2 on Day 1, so odds are, people will want to go to those.
Are there any objections for having the shoot from either 2-3 or 2:30-3:30? One'd have people running a bit late, while the other'd have people rushing near the end to get in line. :>

As for Day 2, it's trickier. We can either run over the Voice Acting Contest with David Vincent, Chris Cason, Todd Haberkorn and avoid the Cosplay Contest, or run over the VA Contest and miss the Cosplay Contest. The latter would be 3:30-4:30, while the former'd be 5-6.

So there's the facts, I await your input. c:
I also feel the need to mention that I only know Todd's the VA for some popular roles, and while I don't really care about the person behind the voice/dubs in general, I know there are people who do and that they'd love to meet him.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2409 on: August 26, 2011, 10:59:53 am »
I vote 2-3! That way it gives a good amount of time for panel to go get to the panels of their choice~
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2410 on: August 26, 2011, 11:48:55 am »
My vote is for Sat 230-330 and Sun 3-4. I know you said 330-430 but why can't we do it at 3?

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2411 on: August 26, 2011, 01:38:38 pm »
Herdedeerp right, also i thought that itd be good for the other day was that 3:30-4:30 cuz like thatd give some time from people to move from the world meeting over to the park.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2412 on: August 26, 2011, 01:49:20 pm »
Ummm.. :3 2-3 on Saturday, and I don't mind Sunday. Whichever works best for people 8D
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2413 on: August 26, 2011, 05:18:47 pm »
Well it shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to get from the panel room to the park.

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2414 on: August 26, 2011, 06:25:32 pm »
Ooh, I misread the time for the World Meeting Panel and just realized that I need to go change who I'm attending as. ;;
So would 3:15 to 4:15/4:30 be better? Because while it does take less than five minutes to cross the street, there is the chance of the panel filling up quickly and/or overrunning, and I would like to avoid people showing up at the designated time only to have no shoot list and missing a good chunk of cosplayers. It also'd give less time to attempt to waste while waiting between the two~

And it looks like Day 1 is 50/50 since I haven't thrown thought to it yet, and the third (and really quiet) co-runner is lobbying for 2:30-3:30.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2415 on: August 26, 2011, 08:48:45 pm »
But for the first days, i have to leave at three so that i can change compeltely and set up my panel. if its offically 2:30 - 3:30 I wont even bother going to there.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2416 on: August 26, 2011, 09:24:13 pm »
Well it shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to get from the panel room to the park.
This. I understand your concerns about your panel, but I think you're blowing this out of proportion, and that might give some people a bad taste in their mouthes when it comes to your panel.  :-\ It shouldn't take you an hour to get ready for your panel.

Throwing in a vote for 2:30-3:30.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2417 on: August 26, 2011, 09:28:06 pm »
Well again i have to get all the way to the room, get dressed in a completely different attire inclkuding makeup and stuff, then go all the way there and screw with the technical stuff. I just dont feel to do all of it could be done correctly in a half n hour
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2418 on: August 26, 2011, 09:30:02 pm »
All the panels are in the Hilton, which is less than five minutes away from the meeting place. What cosplay are you changing into, and what makeup do you have to do? I used to do dance and theater; I can tell you quickchanging isn't hard. As for makeup, it takes me five minutes to do my makeup in the morning. I don't know what you'll have to do, though.

As for technical stuff, I assume you mean a projector? Those aren't hard to set up. I've done it for teachers in the past.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2419 on: August 26, 2011, 09:38:44 pm »
Well no I'm doing HetaOni Italy, so I have to reapply blood, put all the markings apply the bandages. Course not to mention i have a partner for it so we also have to travel all the way to where theyre staying, which is in the red lion. And shes got quite  abit to put on correctly like bands for her robe.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2420 on: August 26, 2011, 09:42:05 pm »
My suggestion is to bring a bag with you, then. That's what I do when I'm wearing two cosplays a day. You've seen my giant huge bag, they're not hard to find. If I'd brought mine with me, I'd offer to let you have it.

Just applying blood and the markings? Ten minutes max. Help her put on the bands for her robes, I guess? Quickchanging is putting on clothes in a minute. It's possible. With that, you've got 14 minutes to help her put on bands for her robe and to fiddle around with your projector. If you look up how to set one up beforehand, too, it's easier.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2421 on: August 26, 2011, 09:43:22 pm »
Or better yet, you could be HetaOni Italy for one of the photoshoots...

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« Reply #2422 on: August 26, 2011, 09:44:00 pm »
Or better yet, you could be HetaOni Italy for one of the photoshoots...
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« Reply #2423 on: August 26, 2011, 09:51:03 pm »
Hm; idea has merit. I'll talk to my other half if she wants to go into priest mode early.
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« Reply #2424 on: August 26, 2011, 09:53:38 pm »
so I'm still new to cosplaying, should I get make-up to make my eyebrows match the wig more? (I also heard I should pluck my eyebrows, I'll ask my mom :P)

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« Reply #2425 on: August 26, 2011, 09:54:16 pm »
so I'm still new to cosplaying, should I get make-up to make my eyebrows match the wig more? (I also heard I should pluck my eyebrows, I'll ask my mom :P)

Mixed opinions on this. I say no because I have black eyebrows and blonde hair, but others may disagree.
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« Reply #2426 on: August 26, 2011, 09:55:41 pm »
so I'm still new to cosplaying, should I get make-up to make my eyebrows match the wig more? (I also heard I should pluck my eyebrows, I'll ask my mom :P)


I personally think darker eyebrows look nicer with lighter wigs.

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« Reply #2427 on: August 26, 2011, 10:36:36 pm »
Hm; idea has merit. I'll talk to my other half if she wants to go into priest mode early.

;n; I really want us to stay matching.. OTL
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2428 on: August 26, 2011, 10:45:40 pm »
so I'm still new to cosplaying, should I get make-up to make my eyebrows match the wig more? (I also heard I should pluck my eyebrows, I'll ask my mom :P)

It's a step that isn't really necessary. While it used to drive me nuts when mine didn't match, I've moved past that point because nothing works. 8D;;
Soyeah, if you pluck them so they're a bit thinner, you'll be more than fine~


Kyo: You said your partner was staying at the Red Lion, are you too, or do you have a room at the Hilton? Because that way, you could just store their costume in your room for a quick change.


Re Times: So while Day 1's leaning towards the 2:30-3:30, are there any complaints for Day 2 being 3:15-4:30? c:
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2429 on: August 26, 2011, 10:47:14 pm »
so I'm still new to cosplaying, should I get make-up to make my eyebrows match the wig more? (I also heard I should pluck my eyebrows, I'll ask my mom :P)

It's a step that isn't really necessary. While it used to drive me nuts when mine didn't match, I've moved past that point because nothing works. 8D;;
Soyeah, if you pluck them so they're a bit thinner, you'll be more than fine~


Kyo: You said your partner was staying at the Red Lion, are you too, or do you have a room at the Hilton? Because that way, you could just store their costume in your room for a quick change.


Re Times: So while Day 1's leaning towards the 2:30-3:30, are there any complaints for Day 2 being 3:15-4:30? c:

That's a good idea about the quick change~! :D

and 3:15-4:30 sounds great. :3
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2430 on: August 26, 2011, 10:55:42 pm »
That day 2 time sounds great.
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« Reply #2431 on: August 26, 2011, 11:01:36 pm »
For me the closer to 3 the better... and I'd have to leave early (have a panel and food to get before the cosplay contest)

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Picking the Time for Day 1~)
« Reply #2432 on: August 26, 2011, 11:24:00 pm »
^Understandable. But due to the other panel, it's looking like fifteen after is the closest. As for leaving early, depending on when you leave, you'll likely only miss the situations and a couple minor groups since it runs an hour and fifteen minutes to be at a more even increment of time, so when we're doing them, I'll try to get any you're involved in out of the way when we get to them. c:

And Day 2 is set~
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2433 on: August 26, 2011, 11:43:03 pm »
Re Times: So while Day 1's leaning towards the 2:30-3:30, are there any complaints for Day 2 being 3:15-4:30? c:

For give my stupidness..... But are these the set times? Or are we still trying to work out day 2? I don't care what the times are so any thing goes for me.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Now Picking Photoshoot Times!)
« Reply #2434 on: August 26, 2011, 11:54:40 pm »
Re Times: So while Day 1's leaning towards the 2:30-3:30, are there any complaints for Day 2 being 3:15-4:30? c:

For give my stupidness..... But are these the set times? Or are we still trying to work out day 2? I don't care what the times are so any thing goes for me.
They aren't the set times; just the likely ones. Feel free to put in your opinion!
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Picking the Time for Day 1~)
« Reply #2435 on: August 27, 2011, 12:05:00 am »
^Understandable. But due to the other panel, it's looking like fifteen after is the closest. As for leaving early, depending on when you leave, you'll likely only miss the situations and a couple minor groups since it runs an hour and fifteen minutes to be at a more even increment of time, so when we're doing them, I'll try to get any you're involved in out of the way when we get to them. c:

And Day 2 is set~

Yeah I'm totally flexable, and don't really mind if I have to leave early, it's my schedule after all. And I will be doing SatW on Sun(Day2) so i know I won't be terribly missed when I do leave.

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Picking the Time for Day 1~)
« Reply #2436 on: August 27, 2011, 12:31:34 am »
^Understandable. But due to the other panel, it's looking like fifteen after is the closest. As for leaving early, depending on when you leave, you'll likely only miss the situations and a couple minor groups since it runs an hour and fifteen minutes to be at a more even increment of time, so when we're doing them, I'll try to get any you're involved in out of the way when we get to them. c:

And Day 2 is set~

Yeah I'm totally flexable, and don't really mind if I have to leave early, it's my schedule after all. And I will be doing SatW on Sun(Day2) so i know I won't be terribly missed when I do leave.
Thank you for being understanding. I'll miss you, though! You're a bro. :)
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Picking the Time for Day 1~)
« Reply #2437 on: August 28, 2011, 10:07:41 pm »
Can I please be taken off as Chibitalia and added ad Chibimerica? ^-^

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Picking the Time for Day 1~)
« Reply #2438 on: August 28, 2011, 11:56:44 pm »
Only six days, Who else is excited?! Also, I'm such a noob. But can someone please explain to me how a shoot works? Like do we get to take our own pictures as well, and such?

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Picking the Time for Day 1~)
« Reply #2439 on: August 29, 2011, 12:55:31 am »
Only six days, Who else is excited?! Also, I'm such a noob. But can someone please explain to me how a shoot works? Like do we get to take our own pictures as well, and such?

Yes, if you want and bring your own camera. If you look on the first page, there is a list of things/pairings/whatever you wanna take part in. And some of us (like my self) wouldn't mind taking pictures of the people in the middel of the set up to. Because you cosplaying Canada, when we call out a pair with canada and some one else like america, you can join in with the america and canada cosplayers and we take the pictures.

Hope that made sence.

And you don't have to be with every set that you character is in as well. (Like, because I don't like Germany X Italy at all, I most likely wont wanna be in any pictures that have that pairing.)

Edit: If that made you confused I am sorry. (Its late to me as I type this)
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Picking the Time for Day 1~)
« Reply #2440 on: August 29, 2011, 05:17:37 am »
As it is now Monday, and the con is this weekend, I'm setting Day 1 up for 2:30-3:30, as that way we aren't trying to meet at the same spot and time as the Tsubasa/xxxHolic group. Which in retrospect, would've been a great thing to double-check at the beginning.

Can I please be taken off as Chibitalia and added ad Chibimerica? ^-^

Okey~ Though it's just going under America, as Chibitalia's a special case. ;;

Only six days, Who else is excited?! Also, I'm such a noob. But can someone please explain to me how a shoot works? Like do we get to take our own pictures as well, and such?

orz I have four days to finish the actual sewing part, as my trio/group'll be there Day 0 and we need to leave early to grab Miria, so the car'll be packed Thursday night. Luckily, most of the detail work's done and I tend to pick accessories up at the start of everything, so I just need to sew.
Except for zori. I'll be in Eugene Friday Morning buying zori for my sister while picking up Miria because I managed to space them completely.

Anyway, for the shoot, it's essentially what RozenMaiden_Girl laid out. We'll meet up, move, then start going through the list for shots. There'll be single characters (which aren't listed since I'm lazy, and I'll have to look around at the shoot to see which characters show up anyway), the pairs/trios, groups, and scenarios. Everyone is more than welcome and encouraged to take their own pictures (& hopefully upload them and share after con), but each character hops up when their character is called for the shot, be it single, pair, group, or scenario. Of course, as also stated, there is no obligation to step up for any reason, no matter what other people may try to tell you otherwise. You are human, you have the right to choose what you want to participate in.
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Times Set; Check the First Post)
« Reply #2441 on: August 29, 2011, 07:19:19 am »
I feel your pain, Shi.
I work the next four nights. But I finally finished sewing everything yesterday. Just need to... Finish everything else. At least Prussia is done.
K-con 2015-
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Something from persona, something from SNK, possibly DmmD?

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Times Set; Check the First Post)
« Reply #2442 on: August 29, 2011, 08:51:22 am »
Yeah, I'm glad most of my cosplays are done, 'cept dyeing my hair. A friend and I are spending all day today working on our skit, as it was the only day before con that we could get together.

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Picking the Time for Day 1~)
« Reply #2443 on: August 29, 2011, 09:12:17 am »
Only six days, Who else is excited?! Also, I'm such a noob. But can someone please explain to me how a shoot works? Like do we get to take our own pictures as well, and such?
I'm excited but also nervous. I slept through a class I'm missing on Friday and I'm only allowed three absences before my grade drops down. Meaning, I have exactly one more chance before I get marked down. ._.;; On the bright side, my buddy is accompanying me to the train station because I have to be there at 9 pm on Thursday.

btw, Shi, my train is coming in around 12. You can check the times online to see if it's late, etc. It's train 11. I think.

I'm so happy I don't sew, because I know if I did, I'd be doing that right now instead of being on the forums (which I am doing instead of getting ready for class).
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Times Set; Check the First Post)
« Reply #2444 on: August 29, 2011, 09:17:00 am »
OOH, we're train buddys, though we're heading from opposite directions (probably)

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Times Set; Check the First Post)
« Reply #2445 on: August 29, 2011, 09:18:39 am »
Hahaha, probably. I'm coming in from Emeryville, CA, which is the closest stop to San Francisco. And it's not on the peninsula, but on the mainland next to the peninsula. orz
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Times Set; Check the First Post)
« Reply #2446 on: August 29, 2011, 09:25:21 am »
yeah....I'm coming from Eastern Washington, have to go to seattle first, where a friend is meeting me. I LOVE train travel, so relaxing.

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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Times Set; Check the First Post)
« Reply #2447 on: August 29, 2011, 09:39:07 am »
Oh gosh. I would rather drive. It's much faster. Unfortunately, my car is unavailable to me right now. >:
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Times Set; Check the First Post)
« Reply #2448 on: August 29, 2011, 11:55:51 am »
Horray for the times being set ... I'll most likely be attending the first shoot as England, and the Second one as Canada! I will probably have a Russia and Latvia coming along as well!

I'm really happy too, because my England cosplay is complete! (As Canada, I'll becoming in the red hoody though, because my parka definitely won't be finished on time) ... here's my Iggy cosplay by the way! (so excited about it): http://raven-sama.deviantart.com/#/d480r1e

I'm quite excited for the con! This will be my first time attending Kumori Con! (Definitely not my first con though) ... also a little nervous though ... as I am coming down from Parksville(Vancouver Island), British Columbia. My sister is driving all the way, and it'll be her first time visiting the US, let alone her first time driving there! LOL

Looking forward to meeting you all at the shoots!
Possible Cosplays for Kumori Con 2012
Pirate!England, Canada, Romano, and/or Australia from Hetalia
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Re: 2011: Hetalia & SatW (Times Set; Check the First Post)
« Reply #2449 on: August 29, 2011, 01:10:19 pm »
I can't wait for con eather, for the past few days I have been having really random crazy dreams about this year's kumoricon. XD I really can't wait. And All my cosplays are done!

I will also be having a russia with me as well.
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