How is YOUR Kumoricon?

[AllyKat]

Hey All!

Well I've been running and gunning about the convention space, maybe you've
even seen me in the stairwells or posting signs to the elevators?

I've been asking people how the convention is going for them and trying to get
as much feedback as possible so we can keep the momentum and the spirit
going throughout the convention, it's middle of day 1 and so far I hear lots of
positives, some problems, but all around fun times just like Kumoricon is meant
to be.

I will be watching this thread pretty heavily (when I'm supposed to be sleeping
mostly) and if you have any curiosities or things you want to let everyone know
about how YOUR K-con is rolling along, post it here! I'll be trying to do updates
on twitter too, and if you see a frazzled red head running down the hall near
you, don't be afraid to say hi and let me know how things are going, I love you
guys and I wanna here your fun con stories!

Mine is pretty awesome, I spent the wee hours of this morning practicing my
FILK for opening ceremonies (if you missed it, you can try and convince me to
maybe sing it for my kamikaze Neko ally panel, or in the Karaoke room at sometime
this con) and I got to hang with the Anime Hunters and Beau Gentry backstage!
That was a blast because all the A.H. crew is so funny and carefree, they are
awesome people! And Beau is... well, he is just Beau! Everyone loves him!

But the fun part was when Kevin McKeever walked back into the back stage and
looked and me and made a silly face! I made a silly face back and we laughed!
I absolutely love laid back happy go-lucky guests who are here to have as much
fun and excitement as we are!

So... How is YOUR Kumoricon?

[Portland_gal]

Mine and my hunnys is going great. First year for us and we are loving every minute. The only pain was the lines for pre-registration but I guess its a norm for conventions. We got to do an awsome Bleach photoshoot and can hardly wait to see how the pictures came out that other people were taking. I think our cosplay outfits looked good (Captain Unohana and Captain Shunsui) but we can hardly wait for next year and be even better organized cosplay wise. Oh and before I forget I even got the pictures that were taken with my camera up online for everyone to get their copies. ^.^ I'm so happy.

Well if we run into you at all I'll offer ya a big hug and cheer ya on. ^.^ Sunday is the only day sadly me and him can have the full day to attend sense his work wouldn't allow him time off in time. Anywho if you would like me to take a picture of a cosplay let me know ^.^ 

And how is everyone? Oh and everyones cosplay is so awsome ^.^

[ishpumalibu]

Sort of boring, but that's mainly my fault for not being reserved, and I was a little sad nobody recognized who I was cosplaying as, but again my fault. It Was cool getting to talk with reppy today. So to recap, I suck, but i'm trying to get better.

[nikku5]

Did not enjoy my day 1, waited in the LONGEST LINE I've seen at Kumoricon. I'm not kidding, it killed my day because I ended up waiting in line to pick up my pre-registered badge, for about 2 hours and by the time I got it, I was tired, my feet and back were aching and I missed all the panels I wanted to go to. I'm hoping day 2 will be much better.

[Zangetsu]

I didn't want to make a separate topic for this so I'm glad there already is one.

I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for being so great and friendly. Sadly, I could only for today, but I had a great time!
This was my first con and I'm glad it went so well. I also wanted to thank all of the cosplayers who let me take pictures of them.
Thanks again guys for an amazing con!

Until next year!

[gaojhia]

Meh, it could be better. I was cosplaying as Nana (Osaki) from the manga, well, "Nana." A couple people recognized me, so that was fine. But I seriously think it could be better. Last year, I didn't think it was that great, but it was better then, I think.

Also today, there was that weird fire alarm thing, security telling us to scoot, only to find that as we got to the exit, we were allowed back in. -__-

But hey, not so bad. I liked Karaoke on the top floor better last year though, it had a nice view and it was more peaceful.

[Squallity]

My friend and I waited in the pre-reg line for three hours, but... it wasn't too bad, I guess. Although I'm probably only saying that because it's over... still, there were lots of random strangers who helped to make the long line/wait fairly enjoyable. 

Other than that, I'm having a pretty nice con! Both the hotel staff and con staff I've encountered have been very helpful/courteous.

We haven't been to any panels yet, but we lurked the Artist Alley and Dealer's Hall... and, I personally feel it's a big step-up from last year, because I actually found some things I wanted! It was exciting.  Also, the Artist's Alley has some amaaazing artists! The line for the Dealer's Hall was actually moving pretty fast by the time we got there, probably because it was close to closing, but, still, it was pretty quick.

[camname21]

Sounds like there could be even more reg monkies next year.  I know there are quite a few already, that or improved flow?  I know I got sent to someone who wasn't even doing will call and they ended up running over to the other side of the long tables to get some info or my badge before coming back.  Just a bit of communication problems still. 

   Oh.. and the one thing that really bugged me was in gaming.  We were leaving and the door guy told us to go the other way because of "traffic flow."  If you knew anything about the fire stairs is that there are people going both up and down the WHOLE day, passing each other with no problems.  Instead we were made to go out the designated exit which made you walk the way back up the parking ramp around half the building and then to where ever you want to go.  And all we wanted was to go up 1 floor, which would have taken 20 seconds and took 10+ times the time for no good reason.  If you can get this fixed for day 2 that would be nice.

[Dae]

I thought the line was fun! My sock-less feet disagree, though... I felt awful once I got inside because I had forgotten my parent permission slip, and the guy in front of me was being a pest too, so I had to make the con staff go to extra work to get verbal permission. TT.TT Sorry~!
Um, I was having a lot of stress from out-of-con influences (a person I used to know visited town and made drama), so I was a little frazzled. Apologies also go to anyone who asked an itty-bitty Tenth Doctor for photos or hugs, I was sooooo out of it, even really early in the day, and I'm terrible at recognizing faces which extends to not being able to tell if someone's looking at me when they're speaking in a crowd, AND I'm hard of hearing, so I get the feeling I missed some people... Geh. Monday will be better! (I only say Monday because tomorrow, I'm going in "plain"clothes so I can get more pictures. Tomorrow should be great too.)
Oh, and this was the first con in three years that I remembered to eat AND limited myself to less than five bottles of Ramune in a day. Wow. I gotta keep this up... O.o

[AllyKat]

The Gaming line is pretty much set in stone, we have to watch our Ballroom level
capacities and so it really comes down to the capacities in each area.

The change in location for gaming is hard I know, but once you get the just of
it, it really isn't so horrible... I've done it a few times now myself... build calf
muscles! YAY!

-Ally

[reppy]

Sort of boring, but that's mainly my fault for not being reserved, and I was a little sad nobody recognized who I was cosplaying as, but again my fault. It Was cool getting to talk with reppy today. So to recap, I suck, but i'm trying to get better.

Haha man, it was good talking to you too.  I saw you in the downstairs and I was like, "HAY I KNOW HIM! CRAP! WHAT IS HIS NAME!" and then I just blurted out "ISH..ISHPUMASLFGHASD."  Luckily, you were able to understand it. xD

Although I am also guilty of not knowing where your cosplay was from! D:  But, I do fully intend to watch Baccano! It looks sweet!

Also, you look too good in a suit, man.  People can't tell if you're cosplaying or not because it looks too natural. XD

[AllyKat]

LOL thats always the tough thing about cosplaying.. will the crowd
know and appreciate your level of detail and realism?

By the by, at 4:00am the con is begining its new day and raring for
Sunday, out at the 24 hour subway I met some awesome people who
have questions about registration... of course that would be when I
realized I'd traded in my Heather Mason outfit for Pajama pants and did
not have my pocket guide on me! Oy!

To the people who came to my filk panel: Thanks! It was fun!

Anybody found any best kept secret paneling at the con this year?
I watched some of guy's Anime Music Video's before my panel.. I love
doing that, and of course I am very partial to Bressler's Whose Line
Panel...

[ishpumalibu]

Sort of boring, but that's mainly my fault for not being reserved, and I was a little sad nobody recognized who I was cosplaying as, but again my fault. It Was cool getting to talk with reppy today. So to recap, I suck, but i'm trying to get better.

Haha man, it was good talking to you too.  I saw you in the downstairs and I was like, "HAY I KNOW HIM! CRAP! WHAT IS HIS NAME!" and then I just blurted out "ISH..ISHPUMASLFGHASD."  Luckily, you were able to understand it. xD

Although I am also guilty of not knowing where your cosplay was from! D:  But, I do fully intend to watch Baccano! It looks sweet!

Also, you look too good in a suit, man.  People can't tell if you're cosplaying or not because it looks too natural. XD

Haha, well thanks, i'm glad you called out to me, you and demonspawn were the only two who recognized me and said anything. I did have one more person yell out to me.... "shun the unbeliever!" to which i didnt know what to say.

[SiderAnne]

We could only stay Saturday and part of Sunday, but it was good.
We were so busy trying to get to panels that we wanted, we hardly got pictures of the beautiful and creative costumes.
It was awesome finding ourselves in short lines because everyone else was "next door"... an advantage to being new to anime and the con.
Todd H. and Tiffany G. were so charismatic and friendly with everyone.

And even though we didn't dress up this year, it was nice to have people comment on our tees.

To his fans:
"Green Shirt Guy" says HI!

[Mew*Haruko]

Horrid for the most part...
My friend was wandering away from me, so I couldn't find her. Then when I tried to call her, she'd ignore the call. She was rude to people and it embarassed me so much. I'm not taking her next year.

As far as the operation of the con, I actually approached a staff and asked: "Where is the line to the Sonny Strait pannel" and they said: "Sorry, it was cancelled." but later, I found out that it wasn't.
Luckily, I saw him in the vendors, though.
But I am still pretty mad about that...

[nikku5]

Day 2: 1 word; AWESOME! So much better than day 1, nothing else needs to be said.

[agpgirl]

It was AWESOME.
Even though things where still a lil unorganized, the elevators where much better than last year. Also, not much people attended this year =/
But I also missed the VOCALOID photoshoot T^T and I didn't have time to put on my third cosplay Dx

Everyone that met me and my Danny-Kaito either wanted a hug or a picture xD

I'm going again next year x3

[jupiter13_00]

Me and my boyfriend had a good time. If you saw us we were the only Eyeshield 21 cosplays. I was in the Karaoke Contest, as always and had a blast. The competion was great this year. I was surprised I placed.

[FateChooseMe]

My overall con experience this year was much better than past, I have a lot of good things to say and a lot of bad things to say. Though, some of the bad things don't have any contact with the con aside from the people within its space.

I have three main things to say, one good and two bad.
Good; The hotel staff was much more polite and helpful this year. Along with the con staff. You guys really impressed. Thank you guys so much, especially with my situation and the room next to us.

Bad one; I noticed that the con members were being really greedy with elevators and pushing past the clearly disabled. That's not okay, they should be first priority. Always!

Bad two; I'm so sick of hearing.  "Marco!Pollo!" and "I lost the game." Its getting old seriously.

Those are really my only complaints. Other than that this con has been much better than last year.

p.s. There was a total VOCALOID explosion.

[Mew*Haruko]

My overall con experience this year was much better than past, I have a lot of good things to say and a lot of bad things to say. Though, some of the bad things don't have any contact with the con aside from the people within its space.

I have three main things to say, one good and two bad.
Good; The hotel staff was much more polite and helpful this year. Along with the con staff. You guys really impressed. Thank you guys so much, especially with my situation and the room next to us.

Bad one; I noticed that the con members were being really greedy with elevators and pushing past the clearly disabled. That's not okay, they should be first priority. Always!

Bad two; I'm so sick of hearing.  "Marco!Pollo!" and "I lost the game." Its getting old seriously.

Those are really my only complaints. Other than that this con has been much better than last year.

p.s. There was a total VOCALOID explosion.

I agree with the people that were pushing past the disabled. I got into an elevator with a woman that had a walker and when we got to the lobby, everyone but me pushed past her. I sat there and waited until she was all of the way off the elevator.
And the 'I lost the game' was very annoying, I agree.
The hotel staff were much more polite this year and it was easier for me to find staff, as well.

[AllyKat]

Yeah, I agree we need to have a lesson on
courtesy when using elevators... I can't count how many
times I had to come and use my magical director badge
powers to convince people to let a person in a wheelchair
get on the elevator so they could get to the ballroom or
23rd floor or basically anywhere!

It shouldn't have to be that way, people should automatically
relinquish the elevator to Disabled attendees... but, we live,
and for the most part those I helped up the elevators were
understanding and nice, it was fun to chat with you all!

Especially the guy I escorted up to the 23rd floor! He was really
funny!

Thank you however, to those of you who DID step out of the Con
Space elevators when you saw someone in a wheelchair or with
a walker/cane trying to get on and up/down. That meant a lot to
me and I'm sure it meant even more to them!

Well, I am getting ready for closing ceremonies, sounds like rant and
rave should be very informative, remember it only lasts 1 hour after
closing ceremonies so if you have a really important question and don't
think you will make it to the R&R, PM or E-mail me and I'll get you back an
appropriate answer. If the question seems very important to the masses
I will even post it here!

-allykat

[~boogiepop~]

Crappy. I didn't do much. Part of it being just being stressed, part of it being that Kumoricon was just a freaking horrible as it was last year. I'm giving it one more chance next year (since we are moving from the terrible Hilton, hooray!) but if it doesn't redeem itself this convention is pretty much dead to me and won't be getting my money ever again.

[nikku5]

Day 3: I didn't do much, I went to the dealer's room and bought 2 hollow masks in the far back left corner, from a vendor.....OMG. So, I put them in my bag without looking at them and when I'm heading home on the max, I look at them and they are these cheap, $2 masks that I could have made. They were for $20 a piece, and it turned out to be a $40 mistake. Yes, i should have looked at the masks I bought, but when someone has a wrapped up one on the table, and it's perfect, you think for the price they are, the ones he would give you would be of good quality as well. NOPE! I'm extremely frustrated at myself for not paying more attention to the details of the masks, but I'm more frustrated at the idea that someone can sell something so cheap, like that, to scam people like that, and get away with it. If anyone else bought these masks, I feel sorry for you and feel your pain.

So overall for my convention: Day1; painful and not fun, Day 2; Extremely fun, and made the convention for me, Day 3: I got scammed, plain and simple, and I'll never buy from that vendor EVER again.

[MiriaRose]

My Kumoricon was fairly awesome.

It was much, much more organized this year. Thank you for that, con and hotel staff. Thank you so much.

I stayed in the Executive Tower this year, so I can't say anything about Hilton Elevators. The Executive Tower was awesome, though. The staff were nice and helpful, and we didn't feel like they felt we were subhuman (although I was told that they were nice and helpful last year, too).

There weren't many panels that interested me, but one I really wanted to go to today hit capacity before we got there. However, that's fine- We went to the dealer's hall instead and saw some pretty cool people.

Any complaints I have weren't the fault of the con staff or hotel staff- Aside from the fact that they didn't give the Hetalia PJ Party Panel a large enough room, so they had to cut it into blocks. But that's between the people running the panel and the staff. 

All in all, it was awesome and I can't wait until next year!

[reppy]

I enjoyed the heck out of the convention, as I do every year. ^^  It was great to meet and chat with lots of people that I talk to online! ^___^

[Cyprus]

1000% better than last year! My friends & I had a lot of fun. Only had 1 rude hotel staff member this year that I ran into. Elevators still sucked though...just horrible lol.

[reppy]

My feet are hating me from walking everywhere.  Doesn't help that I'm super claustrophobic and pretty much can't stand being in an elevator.  Truth be told though, I don't think walking up nearly a dozen narrow, concrete staircases is much better. xD

'Course, that's no one's fault.  ^^  Just felt like I had to throw a little negativity in somewhere! ^^

[DemonSpawn]

Sort of boring, but that's mainly my fault for not being reserved, and I was a little sad nobody recognized who I was cosplaying as, but again my fault. It Was cool getting to talk with reppy today. So to recap, I suck, but i'm trying to get better.

Haha man, it was good talking to you too.  I saw you in the downstairs and I was like, "HAY I KNOW HIM! CRAP! WHAT IS HIS NAME!" and then I just blurted out "ISH..ISHPUMASLFGHASD."  Luckily, you were able to understand it. xD

Although I am also guilty of not knowing where your cosplay was from! D:  But, I do fully intend to watch Baccano! It looks sweet!

Also, you look too good in a suit, man.  People can't tell if you're cosplaying or not because it looks too natural. XD

Haha, well thanks, i'm glad you called out to me, you and demonspawn were the only two who recognized me and said anything. I did have one more person yell out to me.... "shun the unbeliever!" to which i didnt know what to say.

Um um um, saw you at McDonalds right? O:

[ishpumalibu]

Yeah, I was surprised you came over, I was kind of shy.

[DemonSpawn]

You looked so familiar. XD I had to make sure.

[Midnight Divine]

One word to describe this years con..."EPIC!!!!!", it was the best con I've ever been too. Probably because I met a lot of people and had so much fun. I'm now sitting at home wishing it wasn't over!, gotta wait until next year <3

[LtCommanderRichie]

Not too shabby.

Sunday was pretty fun and stuff.

[reppy]

One word to describe this years con..."EPIC!!!!!", it was the best con I've ever been too. Probably because I met a lot of people and had so much fun. I'm now sitting at home wishing it wasn't over!, gotta wait until next year <3

Hey man, it was awesome hanging out with you.  Lots of lolz were had.

[Midnight Divine]

Hey man, you too!, next con for sure we will hang again!

[SandPuppeteer]

Anything that was set up by the con itself seemed to be horribly organized. It started with a two and a half hour to get a sticker on my badge, stuck in a very narrow, poorly ventilated parking garage. Ahead of us were a group of people who thought it was "funny" to scream as loud as possible at every possible moment. Several people asked them to quiet down but they refused. This whole scenario was made worse by the fact that there were only two people running the table where we got the stickers for our bade. And when a friend of ours who was further back in line got there, there was just one. Our friends who were buying their badge that day who got in line at the same time as us got theirs in a fraction of the time.

And here I thought registering in time to get my badge in the mail meant things went more smoothly.

If it weren't for two panels, I would say the whole weekend was a complete waste of money due to every aspect of the con itself being so utterly frustrating.

One thing that really confused me was the sign that said the bathrooms on the main level were inaccessible. In an event that large, that had me baffled.

But the pre-reg line alone was an utter day ruiner, extending really into the whole weekend.

[Styx]

Honestly, the only bad thing people have to say about it seems to be the pre-reg line, which I didn't find all that unbearable (I think I only had to wait 1 1/2 hours).  The rest of the con was amazing, not quite as good as last year, but I personally was better organized, and still got to do everything I wanted.

Cosplay chess wasn't quite as amusing as last year, either, but I did like putting it in the grand ballroom this time.

And hey, the lines were NO WHERE near as bad as Comic-Con.  For serious.

[FilkAeris]

Generally, my Kumoricon was lovely and I enjoyed it very much.  Two quibbles, though.

1) Please, please do not recontract with the Portland Hilton.  I know it was a two-year contract, but now that it's up, please advise the staff to choose a new venue with the panel rooms in a central area, on a minimum number of floors, with easy, open access to all of them.  Also with more elevators.  The Hilton is just horribly put together and cannot handle the kind of crowds that Kumoricon attracts--the hallways and staircases are painfully narrow and it's like navigating a maze blindfolded to find anything.  The wait for the elevators got downright ridiculous; when you have people in high heels deciding to climb ten flights of stairs to get to their hotel room because it's faster and easier than waiting for the elevators, you have a problem.

2) I know it's hard to find staffers, but it would be nice if the registration tables were more thoroughly organized and priority-staffed next year.  (Perhaps the badges could be split up into several boxes/stations alphabetically by last name to speed up the handout process?  It seems to work efficiently at Sakuracon.)  The badge pickup lines really shouldn't have taken as long as they did, and I know the long wait time put a dent in a lot of people's weekends.

That said, I had a great time despite being unable to easily access my hotel room, and I didn't see any of the hotel-staff attitude problems that I'd heard about from last year, so...yes.  Thanks for your hard work, everybody!

ps - Nice filk.  

[Cyprus]

Oh ya...forgot to mention that the Sake Tasting panel was amazing. Very informative...helped my girlfriend & I find sake that we like a well as teach us some interesting facts about sake in general. The gentlemen in charge of the panel were very helpful in answering my questions as well as recommending me to some good places to get sake in Central Oregon.

[AllyKat]

1) Please, please do not recontract with the Portland Hilton.  I know it was a two-year contract, but now that it's up, please advise the staff to choose a new venue with the panel rooms in a central area, on a minimum number of floors, with easy, open access to all of them.  

We are at the Hilton Vancouver Washington and the Red Lion on the Quay next year, hope you enjoy!

2) I know it's hard to find staffers, but it would be nice if the registration tables were more thoroughly organized and priority-staffed next year.

It is REALLY hard to find staffers, and the staffers we do find we have to work into the ground
sometimes because other staffers don't show for shifts. Its a game we play every year. And we
love to have more staff, convince your friends, come as a group, join a department and be crazy
at con!

-Ally

[jupiter13_00]

1) Please, please do not recontract with the Portland Hilton.  I know it was a two-year contract, but now that it's up, please advise the staff to choose a new venue with the panel rooms in a central area, on a minimum number of floors, with easy, open access to all of them.  

We are at the Hilton Vancouver Washington and the Red Lion on the Quay next year, hope you enjoy!

Ugh Vancouver again? Isn't this suppose to be Portland's convention? What ever happened to having it at the double tree by lloyd center? I think that was one of the best venues out of all of them.

[tofutakeout]

Much better than I thought it would be. I'm happy I went even if it was only for one day.

[astra_sileas]

I had a really great time, even through a few personal problems that I had. The people were fantastic, the lines were bearable, and I just had an all-around good time. This was my first con ever, so thank you all for making it awesome ^_^

[SandPuppeteer]

We are at the Hilton Vancouver Washington and the Red Lion on the Quay next year, hope you enjoy!

How is that going to work? They're in the same area but not exactly close like the two from this year.

[taz77]

Good Morning,
Well here we are the day after the con, I was pleased to hear all of the feed back from all of the attendees and people that worked the con.  For those of us who worked at the 09 Con we made it a point to improve upon those challenges that everyone faced from the previous year to ensure that this year's con was an enjoyable experience for everyone.  My thanks to Ally and all of the con staff for their assistance this weekend it was a pleasure working with all of you. Best of luck to all of you next year in Vancouver.

Regards,
Patrick Cechini
Director of Security, Hilton Portland & Executive Tower

[camname21]

The Gaming line is pretty much set in stone, we have to watch our Ballroom level
capacities and so it really comes down to the capacities in each area.

This makes no sense.  There was a person watching the door to ballroom for those coming from the stairs, if they were told the room was capped all they had to do was tell people to go back up and wait in line.  This wouldn't have any effect whether people were coming up from gaming or down from the lobby.  Ether way, there was always someone at the door, direction would not have changed the words spoken to those wanting in the ballroom level.  I went up and down the stairs every hour, just about, and never did gaming have any backup with the huge space they acquired this year.  There was no reason to have made people walk up the garage ramp and around half the building just to go up 2 floors.

[Mister_manji]

The Gaming line is pretty much set in stone, we have to watch our Ballroom level
capacities and so it really comes down to the capacities in each area.

This makes no sense.  There was a person watching the door to ballroom for those coming from the stairs, if they were told the room was capped all they had to do was tell people to go back up and wait in line.  This wouldn't have any effect whether people were coming up from gaming or down from the lobby.  Ether way, there was always someone at the door, direction would not have changed the words spoken to those wanting in the ballroom level.  I went up and down the stairs every hour, just about, and never did gaming have any backup with the huge space they acquired this year.  There was no reason to have made people walk up the garage ramp and around half the building just to go up 2 floors.

It would be impossible to task someone with counting both incoming and outgoing attendees simultaneously and have it be anywhere near the accuracy that we require for compliance with fire code. It was necessary to split incoming and outgoing for this reason. We decided to err on the side of caution and I am sorry if you were inconvenienced.

[camname21]

Well I just want to point out to you guys that it did not work, people were going in and out of the ballroom through that door all day every day.  I wouldn't expect a cap to be monitored by just that person, there was 1 elevator and the escalators that were also being used.  However, knowing this I don't see why if you thought cap was going to be hit at some point to stop incoming traffic from the door for a short time.  This still would not have effected gaming, people would have just gone back up after they found out they couldn't go into the ballroom.  I don't want to say you did a poor job, over all I think lines and cap were done much better this year, but the walk out of gaming was completely unnecessary.


Now if we want to talk about crazy.. reg lines are where it is at.  They looked like they were divided up but they still were super slow and unorganized when you got to the table.  Yoji were telling people who were pre registered to go to non role call, and then reg staff would get pissed at not having the info for them because that wasn't who they were suppose to deal with.  The line for registration didn't seem to be improved beyond handing out sign up sheets before they got to the desk.

[acton]

One word seems to pop up around the convention space. That word is awesome. I that explains to Kumoricon experience. Both panels by Tiffany Grant and Kevin McKeever were excellent. The only problem was too many event schedules conflicted with each other.  I guess that why one need to go to Kumoricon multiple years.  The Hotel did a good job at crowd control preventing the stampede that was after opening ceremony 2009 and were a lot friendlier.  Still I have to rate the hotel a c+, the panel rooms were bigger but  the con space seemed cramped, I still felt  this was not the deal we were promised when Kumoricn left the Doubletree Hotel. My only other disappointment was the video room. My disappointment has to do with the loss of one video room (ok I am spoiled by the past two conventions) and limited playing of other genres.  One other gripe about the Hilton was not providing cheaper options for food, lucky there were closer options. Kumoricn is not “we can pay though the nose and put on the expense report “convention.
Still I give Kumoricon great marks.
One suggestion for next year, we need a con suite, one doesn’t have to provide food but a place we act relax or sit-down with fiends between events. Barring heath or moving, see you all in 2011

My only question why the Vancover Hilton. I remember  mewcon, down town is dead when looking for food options and walking from  Hilton to Red Lion  may be not that great if raining or safe at night  The there thoes with disabilities, will there be a shuttle  van?

[oslapedo]

Ugh Vancouver again? Isn't this suppose to be Portland's convention? What ever happened to having it at the double tree by lloyd center? I think that was one of the best venues out of all of them.

HATERS GONNA HATE. Next year is gonna be so badass, we're lucky to be back there.

I almost didn't come this year because I was so dissapointed with last year's con but this year's Kumoricon was way fun and I'm even more excited for next year. Do you guys post the rant and rave stuff? We had to leave after I spoke and I'm interested in reading the rest of it.

GOOD JOB STAFF~

[Portland_gal]

Okay question if it moves to Vancover, WA then how would people without a car get to and from the convention? Does C-train bus run near the hotel? Mainly curious because I don't have any other transpertation then Tri-met to get around and walking. Why not have out at PDX if moving or is it set in stone? Anywho except for crazy 4 hour pre-reg line it was fun and loved taking a lot of pictures.

[CheshireStray]

Seeing as it was my first con, it may not be for me to judge, but i had an amazing time. I was worried due to rumors i had heard about the hotel staff at the Hilton (I guess they were ready for us this time ^~^) but they seemed to handle it OK, considering how many of us were there...
Like i said, it may just be because it's my first time at any con ever, but I honestly had one of the best weekends of my life 8D

[Negima]

I missed the past 3 years of KCon and I am happy to see what it has become while I've been away.  I didn't see anything like the things I heard about last year.  Yes there were some hiccups but the hotel and con staff seemed to work things out rather well.

Ugh Vancouver again? Isn't this suppose to be Portland's convention? What ever happened to having it at the double tree by lloyd center? I think that was one of the best venues out of all of them.

We're too big for them.  It was one of the best but it's too small for us now.  We'd probably have to cap attendance even more or reserve a few of the other hotels nearby which would be more expensive.

[Kimiski]

This was the best Kumoricon yet, for me.
I love you guys so much. 

[@random]

Well I just want to point out to you guys that it did not work, people were going in and out of the ballroom through that door all day every day.

I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the gaming entrance/exit fire code issue had anything to do with entering or exiting the ballroom level. AFAIK, only gaming was being counted at that exit. Entry to the ballroom level was simply a matter of checking whether they had a badge.

Now if we want to talk about crazy.. reg lines are where it is at.  They looked like they were divided up but they still were super slow and unorganized when you got to the table.  Yoji were telling people who were pre registered to go to non role call, and then reg staff would get pissed at not having the info for them because that wasn't who they were suppose to deal with.  The line for registration didn't seem to be improved beyond handing out sign up sheets before they got to the desk.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean specifically about registration, though you absolutely have my sympathies that things went so far south. My understanding, and again I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, is that reg was initially divided into one line for at-con registration (filling out forms and paying), and the other for will-call (picking up badges that were registered too late to mail out) and validation (getting stickers and holders for badges that had arrived by mail).

Personally, though, I don't understand why will-call wasn't in a different line from people who simply needed stickers - I think that may have been where things really started to go south. Validations took a fraction of the time, shouldn't have been in the same line, and made the line a whole lot longer than necessary. Some of the yojis who tried to correct it by sending validations forward through the line got yelled at, a different group started pulling the wrong people completely out of line and sending them to the wrong place, and things degenerated from there. If it weren't for whoever finally did countermand the initial orders and create a separate line for validations, and Ian who then burned through the validations like a madman, I think it would have gotten considerably worse.

(To Ian, and whoever that person is, thank you. <3 )

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HATERS GONNA HATE.

*blinks and then starts laughing* Thank you for putting it so irreverently; that made my day. Sometimes the forums need a lot more fun and a lot less Serious Business.

I almost didn't come this year because I was so dissapointed with last year's con but this year's Kumoricon was way fun and I'm even more excited for next year.

We're glad you didn't give up - we're hoping to make next year even better without some of the limitations we had because of the contract. Ally's all over that one, so look forward to it.

Do you guys post the rant and rave stuff? We had to leave after I spoke and I'm interested in reading the rest of it.

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure we don't record it. Some things that came up from several different people: 1) Rave: The 180-degree turnaround in hotel staff interactions. 2) Rant: The registration wait times and confusion. 3) Rant: Need more staff and volunteers. 4) Both: Lots of different ideas for how to organize the cosplay contest, which got slightly borked by a swarm of last-minute entries.

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Okay question if it moves to Vancover, WA then how would people without a car get to and from the convention? Does C-train bus run near the hotel? Mainly curious because I don't have any other transpertation then Tri-met to get around and walking. Why not have out at PDX if moving or is it set in stone? Anywho except for crazy 4 hour pre-reg line it was fun and loved taking a lot of pictures.

Sorry to hear about your lack of transportation, 'cause we do want everyone who wants to come to be able - that's the whole reason we wanted to move to a location with more room.  

The bad news: It is set in stone, I'm pretty sure - they wouldn't have announced it unless we had already negotiated and finalized the contract.
The good news: When I went to C-Tran's website and entered both the 2010 location and the 2011 location, it gave a fifteen-minute route that dropped off pretty close to the hotels. For your specific case, you can go here and enter both your address and either 301 W 6th Street (the Hilton) or 100 Columbia Street (Red Lion). And for that matter, I'm sure that there'll be ride-sharing threads posted as we get closer to the con.

[Darknight2433]

Oslap, [Edit by JeffT, administrator: Removed inappropriate language]!

I was so close all year to not going, but I had an amazing time! I thought everything was set up awesome for what we had to deal with (lack of room, small rooms, ect)

Oh my gosh the rave was hardcore, the hotel was awesome, people were great, bah just a fantastic year.

Cosplay Competition I LOVED IT

[oslapedo]

HAHAHAHA YOU.

As someone who had commuted often to and fro Vancouver and Portland it's very easy. There are buses that go from Vancouver to Portland, it's pretty simple if you just look up where the stops are. Also, the Vancouver Hilton is so close to the bridge by Portland, a very, very short trip.

[CherryFrog]

It was my first ever con. It was AMAZING. My friend has been trying to get me to go since high school, so, this year, I saved just enough to come.

I can't wait 'til next year's convention! ^____^

[lychee-twist]

My convention, as with all Artist Alley ventures, was pretty mild. I did enjoy it, though. Jen, the head of AA, is as much of a sweetheart as she ever is, and I can only thank her more and more. I'm definitely trying for another table next year!

I'm very happy with the Kumoricon staff and the job they did. I'm so happy that we're out of the stuffy, stuck-up Hilton for sure. The K-Con staff really did a great job managing the amount of people and the stiff regulations set up. I think everything ran a lot smoother than last year.

The only thing that I thought needs work is counting people as they go in and out of somewhere. My friend and I left the ballroom from a side door with no one to count us. I told someone we left because my friend, a volunteer/yojimbo, had told me they had to count the people who left so they could let more people in. The issue was many people had left without their knowledge so people were waiting in line when they didn't have to.

I think the rules for the ball need to be laid out in the description of the event. Everyone at the ball did fine, I felt, but I wish the rules had been posted so that my dance with Princess Kakyuu hadn't been interrupted three times.

Teachers FTW.

[camname21]

I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the gaming entrance/exit fire code issue had anything to do with entering or exiting the ballroom level. AFAIK, only gaming was being counted at that exit. Entry to the ballroom level was simply a matter of checking whether they had a badge.

I'm assuming fire code says there needs to be 2 separate ways in/out, but I'm pretty sure they are not required to be one way only.  Which is what they were turned in to, even though the stairs never had a problem with too many people.


I got to the ball late, but I was vary disappointed with the fact that no area was marked as "wanting to be asked to dance" kind of thing.  I thought it was one of the things Host Club was going to do, but it didn't happen as far as I could see.  I also kinda forgot that the hosts had flowers or something, but I don't recall ever noticing them with the low lights.

The second biggest problem with con as a whole was probably the fact that I kept trying to go to panels and it not being the right one due to the fact that the pocket guide was not up to date.  This was a huge failure in my opinion.  With no updated version being handed out at info booth, every time you wanted to know if there was a fun panel to see you had to walk back to info booth and stare at the tv for two minutes waiting for it to refresh to check out the updated information.  True not a whole lot was changed, but for a 3 hour block of me looking for something to view I went into probably 4 different events where it was not the right time or the room was changed.

[BloodyWhisker]

This year the lines went back to what they were two years ago. They were long, slow, and a little bit too chaotic. At times it even got a tad too noisy for my taste.
It was disappointing that the Charity Auction and Shounen-Ai panel were at the same time, however, because I really wanted to go to both. I ended up going to the Charity Auction instead, but I'd love it if more fan-panels like that were at times other than times of big, awesome-sauce panels such as the Charity Auction..? Also the fact of how the Cat Ear making was at the same time of Opening Ceremony. I didn't mind that too much, though.
Some of the rooms for some panels were a bit oversized or a bit too small in my opinion. For example, the Hetalia World Conference room was much too small for how many fans were there for the panel. At first only one person couldn't get in, but then there was a only line of another 50 people who wanted in the panel who couldn't get in after we'd already met the max capacity of the room. I was one of the people who made it in, but there were plenty of others who wanted in as well.
For the Kumori ball, I thought it was a little disorganized. The dress code was a little difficult to find for most people. I had no problem since I already knew I was going in formal cosplay, but quite a few around me in the line had to go and change because they hadn't known that they had to be in formal wear. I think it should be made to be found in a better place for next year.
One last thing I want to bring up; the Rave. It was amazing music, amazing lights, amazing crowd.. but a little bit too hot even when it was hardly full at all in there. I guess it was sort of my fault for wearing thick-layered cosplay and should change that for next year, but maybe a small cool-off area with cheap little fans would be nice as well? Just to cool off and be out of the way of ravers.
Other than such, it was pretty well organized, well kept, and still had plenty of events to keep me busy for most of the day and most of the night.

[JeffT]

The second biggest problem with con as a whole was probably the fact that I kept trying to go to panels and it not being the right one due to the fact that the pocket guide was not up to date.  This was a huge failure in my opinion.  With no updated version being handed out at info booth, every time you wanted to know if there was a fun panel to see you had to walk back to info booth and stare at the tv for two minutes waiting for it to refresh to check out the updated information.  True not a whole lot was changed, but for a 3 hour block of me looking for something to view I went into probably 4 different events where it was not the right time or the room was changed.

The pocket guides have a three-week lead time, and there is no realistic way around this. All corrections had been posted on the web site, and all the ones that occurred prior to one week before the con were on the addendum sheet included in the bags. Sorry about the others. Due to the realities of printing, there's not a whole lot more that can be done. Unfortunately we can't print full new pocket guides right before the con.

[Kimiski]

Staff, I had an AMAZING Kumoricon this year!
For me, the lines went faster, they were placed nicely in accordance to layout of the hotel, events were amazing, hotel staff wasn't complete **** this time around, and the elevators being separated made things go so much faster.

The only small problems I had were the escalators being off (I understand why, but I was in pain all con long again) how we had to leave the gamers room to get back into the hotel (I didn't feel safe at night by myself doing this) and that there were not two separate lines for pre-reg check in... I thought those people I was told to pass were going to KILLL me Dx

[@random]

The second biggest problem with con as a whole was probably the fact that I kept trying to go to panels and it not being the right one due to the fact that the pocket guide was not up to date.  This was a huge failure in my opinion.  With no updated version being handed out at info booth, every time you wanted to know if there was a fun panel to see you had to walk back to info booth and stare at the tv for two minutes waiting for it to refresh to check out the updated information.  True not a whole lot was changed, but for a 3 hour block of me looking for something to view I went into probably 4 different events where it was not the right time or the room was changed.

The pocket guides have a three-week lead time, and there is no realistic way around this. All corrections had been posted on the web site, and all the ones that occurred prior to one week before the con were on the addendum sheet included in the bags. Sorry about the others. Due to the realities of printing, there's not a whole lot more that can be done. Unfortunately we can't print full new pocket guides right before the con.

Realities of printing con materials:

• Cheap printers want a few weeks' lead time.
• Expensive printers want a few days' lead time.
• Con drama sometimes has as much as a few hours' lead time. 

If you have any good suggestions for how to quickly and effectively spread word of changes, please let us know? We'd love to hear it, because we don't want you to miss your favorite panel any more than you do.

(Actually, this reminds me - we should probably resurrect the whiteboard for posting changes that aren't in the schedule.)

[reppy]

Does staff use a Twitter account to spread news about changes to the schedule?  How effective would it be?  It would be vitally important to have as many people as possible following the Twitter before or shortly after the con starts for it to be truly effective, though. ^^;

Either that, or just have a few guys walking around all day with a bullhorn making random announcements. xD

Edit: A more serious suggestion .. how about just having a small, single page schedule that is tossed into the bag?  How difficult would this be?  Say if you had it printed 5 days in advance of the con with any last minute changes.

[Rathany]

Does staff use a Twitter account to spread news about changes to the schedule?  How effective would it be?  It would be vitally important to have as many people as possible following the Twitter before or shortly after the con starts for it to be truly effective, though. ^^;

Either that, or just have a few guys walking around all day with a bullhorn making random announcements. xD

Edit: A more serious suggestion .. how about just having a small, single page schedule that is tossed into the bag?  How difficult would this be?  Say if you had it printed 5 days in advance of the con with any last minute changes.

Some cons use Twitter to great effect.  Our Twitter does not have many followers yet.  Though, if we have someone at info booth with access to the account who could be in charge of updates that could work out really good for us. 

[RemSaverem]

I got most of what I personally wanted out of this year's con:
All the new volunteers, staff, and panelists I had recruited for Creation Station this year were happy with me & with the CS.
All our new panel content that I had designed & commissioned was well-received and well-attended.
All our new panel content that others designed & performed was well-received and well-attended.
All the panels on which I was a panelist were well-received and well-attended.
Attendance was up at many of our panels, and enthusiasm was up at almost all of them.
Our CS Fanfic Contest included some amazing entries, and I got to meet or chat with everyone who entered.
Our CS Art Contest yielded some incredibly beautiful entries.
Our Adult Prog in the CS expanded.
All my cosplays were well-received.
My "Doctor Who" fanfic-song was well-received.
And an absolute highlight: Two former con chairs came to visit me, one to introduce me to his baby and one to bring me cosplays (including tentacles). A third former con chair sent me presents from overseas. We should all put more time into helping each other feel more appreciated and loved like that!

[Kurohime]

Sakuracon had a very large board with the entire schedule posted on copy paper, on which changes were cut & pasted (and bolded?  I don't quite remember).  Low tech but highly effective. 

Also, each room should have a schedule posted, on which changes can be penned in bright colors. 

I seem to have had the convention everyone else complained of having last year.  Multiple problems stemmed from 3 and a half hours in the reg line, but I don't want to post at length right now. 

[JeffT]

We already post all schedule changes to www.kumoricon.org/schedule/ . This year, we did not receive word of any changes during the con (though this may be because the changes happens moments before the event), but a few did happen in the last few days. Agreed that extra signage for this would be a good idea.

[TheBurningFist]

I had a wonderful first con ^^
I got a lot of inspiration, especially at Sonny's panels... they were also funny!
the drawing panels I when to were pretty cool but wheren't GREAT or anything I forgot a lot they said too...
it was pretty well organized, and I think I'm gonna be coming for years now

[camname21]

None of the problems finding the right place were in the revision paper given to us with the booklet, all the things I couldn't find must have been last minute changes.  Frustrating those changes were not at least posted on the doors, though I did see one door they took a random piece of paper and did post it outside the door.

[Eternal Yamcha]

Since it appears this is sorta the rant/rave thread...

Rants:
1. Registration - It was scheduled to end at 10:00pm on Friday Night. My group showed up a little after 9:00pm and we were told that we were not going to be allowed in the line. If that's the case, make sure to state that after a certain time, the line will be cut-off and that registration will end at approximately 10:00pm. There IS a difference between line cut-off and suspension of registration.

I also read that the registration was to begin at 7:00am on Saturday, yet it didn't until, I believe 7:20am - 7:30am, that's inexcusable. Everything should be ready by 6:45am (barring any REAL issues) and everyone running registration should be there at that time as well. Quit banking on people being understanding and thinking that the kindness of strangers will afford you some time, because at that point, you're simply taking advantage of people.

2. Tournaments - If you have the rules figured out post them at the event itself. I've been to numerous tournaments (specifically card gaming tournaments) and the rules were posted in plain view. I noticed a complete lack of posted rules at the events itself. I don't care if it's online or not; if you have them figured out, there's no excuse for not posting them at the event/site of the event itself. If you're "too busy" to take 20 seconds out to print at least ONE copy of the rules and post them at the event, then you're too busy to run the tournament, period. Should also be stated whether or not judge's rule is law... If it isn't, then the attendees can figure out that things will not change at all. If it is law, then the rules MUST be amended if/when something comes up that changes them.

I'd also say it'd be smart to have actual tournament entry forms. Nearly every tournament I've been in has required competitors to fill out official entry forms that get some basic information and ways to contact the competitor just in case. They also usually had a quick synopsis of the rules posted at the bottom of the forms. These are important in keeping organization of the tournament and that is the only way to guarantee that everyone knows the rules and that they have indeed agreed to them. If you're too busy to take 30 minutes out of your life over the course of 1+ month/s to come up with a simple entry form, then you're too busy to run the tournament.

3. Procrastination - It felt like things had been really thrown together in less than a month, yet again. I'll actually elaborate a bit more in the Raves section just below this point; but things still seemed rather hastily put together and it actually showed. This causes break downs in communication between virtually everyone and gives the event an amateurish feel. Make sure the people who are tasked with running the convention are keeping up on their responsibilities and if they're dragging their feet at all, vote someone else into their position. Staff members have voting rights, use them. There's always a disproportionate amount of luck when it comes to getting everything done and it's up to the event staff to mitigate that as much as possible.

I also want to add that next year, make sure information is solidified sooner than it was this year. It seemed as if guests weren't really figured out until a month or two before the event started. I wasn't even sure if I was going to go for more than a day until two days before Pre-Registration ended. Get that information situated and figured out sooner and post it faster next year.

Raves:
1. Lines/Crowds - I actually think that the lines were far better than they had been. Honestly? Keep this model and modify it when necessary at every other event. The lines didn't seem as long and the various places at the convention didn't feel nearly as crowded. The dealer's hall was great this year, perhaps the best I had seen it. Next year, learn the layout of the hotel/s early and figure out how to apply this model to it again. *Special Note* The head counts this year were fantastic!

2. Game Room - Open, fresh air, plenty of space? Best game room thus far. Try to mimic this if possible for next year; a place that offers plenty of room, plenty of ventilation and plenty of entertainment. Only beef is how far you had to walk to get back to the hotel itself... But I completely understand. If people were constantly going up and down the stairwell before gaming, it'd tax Yojimbo and it'd create a nasty bottleneck.

3. Table Top Gaming - Similar to the Game Room, perhaps the best we've had. It was open, somewhat easy to access and didn't feel completely disconnected from the convention. I'm confident that you guys can find a great place for it next year.

4. Yojimbo/Security - For being knowingly taxed, the Yoji's did a GREAT job this year, honestly. I didn't hear about too many issues that came up this year (though that may be from my lack of insider knowledge) and I really didn't hear too many convention goers complaining this year. Perhaps the smartest thing was making sure there was security for the Dealer's Hall. Hiring an outside security organization to keep watch was absolutely brilliant as it gives the dealers/exhibitors far more peace of mind and keeps the Yoji's from being stretched far too thin and worked to the nubs. You guys made it work!

5. Guests - I only say Tiffany Grant and Sonny Strait, but the convention would be completely idiotic not to try to get them to come back. Both gave plenty of face time to their fans this year and they seemed, to me at least, to genuinely care about the fan base. Sonny taking a booth was perhaps the greatest thing I've seen a guest do and I noted that Tiffany had multiple autograph sessions. To really drive this point home I'll say this; if Tiffany and Sonny come back next year, I'm about 95% certain I'll get a VIP Badge. The guests are, in my eyes, the greatest way to boost sales of the VIP Badge as those who purchase it get to spend far more time with them than anyone else.

Overall, KumoriCon 2010 was a far more cohesive effort than KumoriCon 2009. It's THAT kind of improvement that makes people happy to see and more likely to not only return, but return in larger numbers. Though I had personal issues this year that basically ruined the experience for me, I was glad to see things running better, from the eyes of an attendee, than they did last year.

[Rathany]

Make sure the people who are tasked with running the convention are keeping up on their responsibilities and if they're dragging their feet at all, vote someone else into their position. Staff members have voting rights, use them.

Find us more people willing to volunteer to do exec level work at this con and we'll talk.  Actually, what this con really needs is more people willing to do manager level work so that the execs don't have to be their own managers in addition to doing exec work.  This is a chronically under-staffed con. 

Thrown together in the last month?  A huge amount of work goes into this convention all year long.  If we'd thrown this together in the last month things would have been horrible.  Even if we all worked at it full time like it was our day jobs, there is no way we could have pulled off putting together a con in a month. 

I appreciate your sentiment.  I had the same opinion before I joined staff.  Once I did, I realized that things were far different from what I thought and I was amazed at how much work the staff did. 

[Eternal Yamcha]

I've been on staff I do believe 3 years now, have many friends that are current and former staff... Heck, I've even helped run mini-cons before. I realize that real life gets in the way, that toggling life with running a convention, especially one the size of KumoriCon can be difficult. I also know that there seems to be incredible amounts of down time... That more often than not, the final pieces don't fall into place until shortly before the con, during the con or never at all.

Finding people willing to do manager level work shouldn't be that hard. Ask those who are already offering to assist the convention, have shown the dedication and skills necessary to complete those tasks. If you need to, promote people to assist the directors. This may be a chronically understaffed convention... But this is a convention that has intelligent and capable people running it. Figure out a solution to it, you guys can do that.

Really, don't get what I said wrong. This is a labor of love effort and every year, people step up to the plate and hit it out of the park. I am FAR from the only person who will say, from the bottom of my heart, I absolutely appreciate everything that the staffers do and I thank you all immensely. But what I have seen over the years is that the areas that drag their feet a bit in getting things together (not a single person's fault 99% of the time) it's sort of obvious. I had a friend who had a badge before some of the staffers... There's really no reason for that. Last year, my fiance, a staffer, got her badge on Sunday night... Meanwhile I, a regular attendee (for the most part, volunteered during con), got my badge Friday night. Glad that attendees are getting their badges, but staffers NEED them just as much... Probably even more.

It's things like that that make things seem hasty. I realize many of the problems I cited are bound to happen, but not in the numbers that they show up in. Badge issues aren't a single year thing and something needs to be done to make your lives easier. There are plenty of amazing people working registration, but it starting 20 - 30 minutes late is a problem... That makes it harder on everyone. I realize that things happen and events and schedules are always changing, but posting preliminary schedules in advance might help people decide whether they want to come for one day, the entire weekend, not come or get a VIP badge. Same goes with special guests... I realize many of them are busy so I'm absolutely not faulting the convention for this... But if it's at all possible to secure them earlier than this year in the future would definitely help people make registration decisions... But it really wasn't until I found out that Tiffany Grant was coming that I made up my mind for sure that I was coming and I chatted with a few others that didn't register until they found out the same thing.

I genuinely appreciate the work that the staff puts in, don't get me wrong. If I didn't, I wouldn't have come to KumoriCon every year it's been in Portland. That's why I had a list of rant and raves; if I didn't care about the convention, I wouldn't have said anything... Instead, I would have shrugged and said "whatever, it sucks."

I am sincerely not trying to be provocative and I'll admit I'm very likely misinformed on some of the goings on of the convention. Correct or not, I am speaking from my point of view as an attendee this year... The knowledge of working for this convention in the years past and seeing some familiar issues pop up time and time again... And the experience of running some (yes, MUCH smaller) events. All of what I say is my opinion and I don't expect anyone to actually read what I have said and what I may or may not say in the future. Honestly, take it with a grain of salt if you so desire.

KumoriCon is constantly growing, evolving and adapting to different challenges and it must be doing things right as it keeps growing. Thank you all for all the effort you put into it because it does show.

Should note that I'm not interested in creating a back and forth that'll clog up this thread; as such, I'm not going to comment or respond on this particular subject within this thread. I've said what I needed to, stated that I don't want to start anything and that I honestly appreciate the effort put in by staff members. There's really nothing else I can say more about this.

[RemSaverem]

Having been a Manager for several years now, I simultaneously echo what Rathany was saying and also add to it.

It is really easy to vastly underestimate how much work is incumbent upon someone in a titled position if you haven't been in one yourself. There are tremendous amounts of detail coordination, supply coordination, personnel coordination, scheduling coordination, time pressures. You  can end up feeling responsible for everything & everyone under you, and not necessarily clear on who or what your potential supports are. It can become really easy to feel underappreciated.

The work can be amazingly fun and rewarding, despite all the challenges. But props should be given to everyone who puts in the phenomenal amount of time, effort, money, sleep dep, and dedication that it takes to be an Exec, a Manager, even a Coordinator. These are all volunteer positions, and in tough economic times, committing to a huge array of meetings and responsibilities, especially if one does not live nearby, can really be formidable.

Every single Coordinator, Manager, & Exec deserves a ton of kudos & respect of all the efforts we have put in. Just as the con could not run at all without all of the amazing, wonderful, dedicated attendees, volunteers, panelists, and general staff, it could not run effectively, organizedly, professionally, smoothly without all of the amazing, wonderful, dedicated, and often very underappreciated Coordinators, Managers, & Execs.

Thank you to all of you. You're an inspiration. Love, Rem.

[@random]

I can understand where you're coming from, though indirectly, from having done management IRL. A lot of what seems like useless busy work to other people can be critical, and a lot of what seems like disorganization can be the best method of handling a situation that doesn't lend itself to traditional "control". And it can be grating to hear people offer opinions that we think are uninformed or just plain wrong.

But it would be a horrible mistake to discourage people from giving their honest impressions, whether we agree with them or not. Letting them speak their peace doesn't mean we're endorsing their opinion, and we need to know what kind of impression we give people. Not only that, but if we stop and listen, we might even find they have a point that needs to be addressed or a good idea on how something could be done better.

Putting the con leaders up on a pedestal does everyone a disservice, especially them. It encourages people to simply dump every problem on them instead of asking how they can help, or pointing out a way that their jobs could be made easier. We work a lot better as a team that can call each other out than we would as a set of autonomous autocracies who Shalt Not Offer Criticism, Constructive Or Otherwise. I hope we never do become the latter - I would much prefer that we stay the former.

[Jaminos]

This was my fourth Kumoricon. I had to say that this was the greatest of all of them all that I have went to at least. My group travel's in a pack of 5 but we added sixth for his first con. I can honestly say it is a life changing experience for him. This con thoroughly destroyed his Hinata complex and opened his eyes to a world of things he thought were myth. From my point of view alone, this is my second year in a row as VIP and it was so worth every penny. A great selection of voice actors (Even though I do miss Kirk) great panels, awesome con staff and just a fun atmosphere. I do not have many complaints. The speed dating was kinda a flop but I do not really blame anyone. It was kinda out of control as well. Some of the most fun I had was just wandering around the con cosplaying. I can not wait for kumoricon 2011!

[RemSaverem]

[snip] A lot of what seems like useless busy work to other people can be critical, and a lot of what seems like disorganization can be the best method of handling a situation that doesn't lend itself to traditional "control". [snip]

Very true. Thank you for those points.

But it would be a horrible mistake to discourage people from giving their honest impressions, whether we agree with them or not. Letting them speak their peace doesn't mean we're endorsing their opinion, and we need to know what kind of impression we give people. Not only that, but if we stop and listen, we might even find they have a point that needs to be addressed or a good idea on how something could be done better.

Absolutely. Agreed. IMHO, we should have a culture here that supports expression of respectful dissenting positions, and a culture of mutual support, so that when folks try to help each other, if they see each other overwhelmed or falling behind, they are not misread as overstepping, but as simply the norm of everyone acting as a team.

Putting the con leaders up on a pedestal does everyone a disservice, especially them. It encourages people to simply dump every problem on them instead of asking how they can help, or pointing out a way that their jobs could be made easier. We work a lot better as a team that can call each other out than we would as a set of autonomous autocracies who Shalt Not Offer Criticism, Constructive Or Otherwise. I hope we never do become the latter - I would much prefer that we stay the former.

Again, agreed. Thank you.

[angel of music]

my con was great! (especially since it was my first!)

the only issue i had was at the Kingdom Hearts PJ Panel. I couldnt understand why KH was put in such a small room after all the pushing Square Enix has been doign with it and especially with Birth by Sleep coming out this week. A bunch of us were disappointed at first when we thought we werent gonna be allowed in, but THANKS SO MUCH to the staff who decided to split the three hour panel in half so the rest of the KH fans could get in. I was so thrilled to get it! It was so much fun and a highlight for K-Con for me.

People were nice and the staff was so helpful in directing my direction-challenged self! xD

[Mr. Bubble]

Hi guys. I think this year was my 4th Kumoricon. Before I get into how my con was, let me state some things:

I haven't watched an anime series in over 4 or 5 years. I don't read manga. I don't like hentai.

Obviously, anime conventions, let alone Kumoricon, isn't geared for people like me.

But I enjoyed this year's con. I got my badge's worth and then some. Whenever I looked at the schedule booklet, there was usually at least 1 panel I was interested in attending which I did. I particularly enjoyed the voice actor and industry panels. If I had known the Kevin KcKeever panels were going to be so interesting, I would've tried to attend all of them. If there weren't any panels I was interested in, I'd simply visit the gaming room, go around and take pictures or cool down in one of the air conditioned viewing rooms.

This is repeating what other people said, but my biggest gripe was the pre-reg badge line. I had pre-reg'd me and my brother back in March and we did not get our badges in the mail. I pre-reg'd early so that we could avoid standing in line, but we were stuck in line for 2+ hours anyway (heard it was worse for others).

And as I said before, Kumoricon isn't geared towards people like me so I very much doubt the people in charge would care to hear what I have to say. But it would be nice if there some more vendors in the dealer's hall that carried more video game related merchandise.

All that being said, me and my brother are interested in volunteering/joining the staff for next year. Him more than me though.

[Rathany]

And as I said before, Kumoricon isn't geared towards people like me so I very much doubt the people in charge would care to hear what I have to say. But it would be nice if there some more vendors in the dealer's hall that carried more video game related merchandise.

All that being said, me and my brother are interested in volunteering/joining the staff for next year. Him more than me though.

This con is for all who want to attend it.  I haven't seen much in the way of vendors who sell video game focused stuff around the con circuit.  I did try to bring in one gaming shirt vendor, but they weren't interested into coming to an anime con of our size, so far from their warehouse.  If you know of some good vendors send the info to relations@.  Keep in mind many video game vendors want to be at a different show on our weekend.

[@random]

This is repeating what other people said, but my biggest gripe was the pre-reg badge line. I had pre-reg'd me and my brother back in March and we did not get our badges in the mail. I pre-reg'd early so that we could avoid standing in line, but we were stuck in line for 2+ hours anyway (heard it was worse for others).

And as I said before, Kumoricon isn't geared towards people like me so I very much doubt the people in charge would care to hear what I have to say. But it would be nice if there some more vendors in the dealer's hall that carried more video game related merchandise.

All that being said, me and my brother are interested in volunteering/joining the staff for next year. Him more than me though.

Like Rathany said: If you came, then we do care about what you have to say. We may not always agree about what the problems are, and there are never any guarantees that we can fix every problem, but we'll do our best. Often, the hardest part of fixing a problem is recognizing that we have it - and to that end it's important to tell us even if we've already heard about it before, so that we know the true scope of the problem.

We've already started discussing changes to fix some of the things that went wrong with pre-registration and registration, and the feedback we get from you guys helps us know what worked and what needs fixing. If nothing else, I hope that the difference between 2009 and 2010 shows that we'll take our lumps, learn from our mistakes, and do better next time.

Rathany already addressed your concerns about video game vendors far better than I could, so the only thing left to say is - if you guys do join up, welcome aboard! But fair warning... once you see how much more positive an experience it can be to both have fun and know you're helping others have fun, not to mention always having somewhere to go and something to do, you may never get away. A lot of our staffers have been with us for several years now.

For staff, we've got plenty of meetings through the year (keep checking here for details) where you can find out who you want to work with. For volunteers, we'll try to have points of contact up as soon as we elect the new Board and they can choose who the points of contact will be, and of course you're always welcome to come join us at a meeting.

[storkparanoia]

this years con was the most disappointing one i've been to in a long time.  i felt like i was at the con it's first year it was functional.  the fact that you had to go to the info desk to get then anime list was horrible.  i wasn't able to plan my time in advance at all since there wasn't even anything online.  also the Karaoke room was loud and had no real point.  being in the anime viewing room next to it was terrible.  they also kept the volume down in that room so unless there were subs you didn't know what was happening half the time. 
i was very disappointed in the fact that there were only two anime viewing rooms.  that is one of my favorite things about con's.  having only two rooms limited what you could show.  because there was no live action room you had to play live action in one of the rooms part of the day.  making it so only one anime was playing.  then one of the rooms became an AMV room at night.  that again cut off how much anime could be playing.  then there's the fact that for the past 3 years you have played Bus Gamer's only 3 episodes.  it's a cool anime but i would like to see something new.  less Karaoke and more anime, also a live action room would have been nice.
I know i'm not alone in this but lines were not properly marked.  i waited for half an hour in the wrong registration line because it was the one i was told to stand in.
the way this con went i will have to think hard before i register of the next con.  i believe that if things don't get better, like a different venue.  Kumoricon will be over in a few years.

[AllyKat]

Thanks for your comments!

Rest assured, we do have a new venue, and it should provide us with much more wiggle room when it comes to programming. Due to the size of the convention compared to the size of the space we have had the past two years, we did have to sacrifice a lot in the ways of programming in order to accommodate the big draws. Our convention offerings have to mold to fit our audience, and that means that some years will have less of one thing than previous. I was sad to see two of our Viewing Rooms go as well, but it had to happen this year, hopefully we can have a better/bigger variety next year, we will just have to see what our Programming Director can come up with. In the end, that is always about space. If we give up something for another bit of programming, we are going to make people mad, but if we don't make concessions, then we are making other people angry... its a vicious cycle.

What we need is a million meeting rooms in a convention center with 3 hotels connected to it that'll give the space to us for FREEEEE! then we could run marathons of Anime. Give Karaoke it's own stage and floor away from everything else and like... 10 panel rooms and 2 Concerts and a dance, all running at the same time.. plus 24/7 cosplay chess and stuff... I dunno, that'd be pretty sweet.

What we get though seems to be either waay too much space for waay too much cost or not enough space for just the right cost. So we make do, I am sorry it didn't work out well for you, hopefully we can change that this coming year!

On the other problems, I can't really speak about the Registration lines, those are NEVER fun, at ANY convention.. it's the bane of the con-goer, that evil evil line... I hope we keep getting better and better and that we learn from our mistakes and grow. I know it's hard to sit and wait for us to grow into our larger convention size (it was so much easier when we were 2,000 people and 150 staff, I am sure) with less staff... but please bear with us, we will get it right, I'm sure of it!

But look forward to 2011! We are going to be in Vancouver this year and I am very excited about that! But, wait until the new Board of Directors has been chosen for details on this Awesomeness!

If there is anything else you wanted to chat about, let me know via PM or email (hotel@kumoricon.org) or you can reply here! either way I'll try and get back to you!

Thanks again,

Ally

[pyronine]

a million meeting rooms in a convention center with 3 hotels connected to it that'll give the space to us for FREEEEE! then we could run marathons of Anime. Give Karaoke it's own stage and floor away from everything else and like... 10 panel rooms and 2 Concerts and a dance, all running at the same time.. plus 24/7 cosplay chess and stuff...

WOW you Rock Ally, We can do that every year. See what happens when you get promoted at your real job. lol    


naw... that would be awesome though.

[camname21]

OMG don't tease us, all we end up doing is thinking about it and getting disappointed when we remember we don't have all that

[BlackLaceAndPearl]

The con was amazing. It was my first, and I honestly can't think of a place I would have rather been. It was absolute heaven to meet people who were interested in the same things I am. And everyone was so nice. Waiting in line was more fun than it should be. 
I can't wait for next year. I'm already dreaming up multiple cosplays. 

[Kurohime]

The viewing rooms did have a schedule posted.  It would have been nice to have it in the insert like in previous years, but viewing rooms are typically the last place I'll be during a convention anyway- too much other stuff to do.  

Looking very much forward to the new/old location.  Just as long as it doesn't rain!

[Mr. Bubble]

This con is for all who want to attend it.  I haven't seen much in the way of vendors who sell video game focused stuff around the con circuit.  I did try to bring in one gaming shirt vendor, but they weren't interested into coming to an anime con of our size, so far from their warehouse.  If you know of some good vendors send the info to relations@.  Keep in mind many video game vendors want to be at a different show on our weekend.

That's understandable and thanks for at least trying. The reason why I suggested it is because there's such a constant influence from titles like Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts (what anime con doesn't?). I was thinking those kinds of mainstream merchandise could be better covered. I hope you see where I'm coming from.

But if there are no vendors available then there are no vendors available. I won't push this any further.

I will say that there was a decent number of Pokemon related stuff. And the vendor who had those shelf rows lined with artbooks had a surprisingly eclectic selection.

[Rathany]

This con is for all who want to attend it.  I haven't seen much in the way of vendors who sell video game focused stuff around the con circuit.  I did try to bring in one gaming shirt vendor, but they weren't interested into coming to an anime con of our size, so far from their warehouse.  If you know of some good vendors send the info to relations@.  Keep in mind many video game vendors want to be at a different show on our weekend.

That's understandable and thanks for at least trying. The reason why I suggested it is because there's such a constant influence from titles like Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts (what anime con doesn't?). I was thinking those kinds of mainstream merchandise could be better covered. I hope you see where I'm coming from.

But if there are no vendors available then there are no vendors available. I won't push this any further.

I will say that there was a decent number of Pokemon related stuff. And the vendor who had those shelf rows lined with artbooks had a surprisingly eclectic selection.

Yup, and much video game stuff falls under 'Japanese culture'.  But, if a vendor with merch like that can get into PAX, then they are going to choose PAX over us