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General Kumoricon / KumoriApp - Idea Drafting
« Last post by PicklePet on November 18, 2019, 02:58:01 pm »
I'm studying web & app development and it's my goal to build this baby (I'm still a novice so don't count on that being super soon) - I believe in the power of collaboration, so I often like to put my ideas up before I start to see if any one has any tweaks or feedback! I'd love to hear it. : )
This app would basically be a virtual program guide (more convenient than carrying the book around - and reduce the printing footprint!) PLUS so much more... I have a lot of ideas for how technology could solve some existing problems and help some of us probably socially awkward people make connections a little easier... (no one's said that before and achieved the exact opposite... *heavy sarcasm*) But seriously I'm trying to be very conscious of not giving people an excuse to just stare at their screens more but rather a tool to interact with the people around them.

Orientation: When the app first starts up, have an 'orientation' - quick guide of how to navigate it, basic code of conduct, maybe a reminder that this is a non-for-profit 100% volunteer run event.

Schedule: Basically the function I believe guidebook serves right now (haven't used it myself).- Has access to the full schedule list like they had it on the website this year, sortable by category and time - text listings of title, description, time, room. Possibly display hosts, maybe an option for hosts.
- Also has visual grid format - grid view can be narrowed down by removing categories/rooms. You can click on block to see the full event info with description.
- You can color-code events (and you can save a key of what the colors mean - like: green- definitely going, yellow- interested, pink- back-up plan red- competing)- You can add your own blocks. (i.e. volunteering - lunch - meetup - costume change)
- You can view a schedule of just the events you've marked, or even just certain colors
- Will be able to reflect last minutes changes like time changes, cancellations and added events, etc.- You can subscribe to notifications and/or reminders for events - so you'll be notified if there are any changes, or you'll get a reminder notification 10 minutes (adjustable time) before a panel starts.
- perhaps make number of people who marked themselves as going to an event visible to event host so they can forecast a bit?

Panel Integration: This part is exciting for me. Will work a lot like jackbox games.
- Each panel has a unique code - for most this will only be given out during the panel, but possible it could be given out before-hand.
- Once you enter the code, you'll be inside the room. The audience will see whatever the host has set as 'active'.- Things the host can set up: polls for voting, short-medium length free responses to a question, pictures, a space to draw, prompts, you can assign people random numbers, etc. Could be just about anything. - And admins can create and queue these ahead of time so when the panel starts all they have to do is run through it like a power point. Of course they can see all submitted responses.
Main concern: Not every one will have a phone (maybe lost, dead, low battery, bad connection, no data, don't want to install app etc), it could be unfair to be unable to include them, and therefore possible solutions: always have to have physical back-up plans or mark panels that plan to use it so audience knows ahead of time?

Classifieds(looking for group): A place where any user can post a little mini meet-up orrr planned time to play a game that's open for others to join.- The most common use I imagine is for board/card games like secret hitler, mafia, cards against humanity, catan, etc., or console games if they're available, like mario kart/party/overcooked etc (haven't paid that much attention to the console section of the arcade so I don't know what's standard faire)
- All users can see these listings, and if they choose, can be notified of certain kinds of meetups (like if you really like secret hitler, you can get notified of any lfg postings for that)- Will have algorithms to check for any double-up or closely timed events of the same kind and suggest merging before creating a new one.

Profile & Street-pass-esque: I'm thinking each kumo badge can be hooked up to a user account - so even like, personalization features aren't available until you hook it up? But like if you preregister then maybe you could set that up ahead of time? And maybe have a little image code on the back of your badge that people can scan to look you up instead of typing in a code for easy friending??
- Designated place to put your cosplay line-up. (Won't show up on your profile at all if you leave it empty tho) With this, the database can let you know if some one else is cosplaying from the same series - you can send them a message to see if they want to meet up any where. Maybe some verification step to make sure this isn't trolled, like you have to submit a picture with it.
- Interests: list shows/games/movies etc. you like, and maaaybe other general categories like 'fanfiction', 'cosplay', 'amvs' - but from fandoms, app can tell you if there's some one else who likes that near you/make some kind of street pass encounter where you can just see each other's profiles and have a field at the bottom to send them a message or something.
- You can attach links to your social media because I know that's all the rage. : T They can either be public or you can just share them with specific users. Easier than handing out business cards and stuff.
Main concern: The street pass aspect could get really crazy if attendance continues to grow and people list popular fandoms as their interests. Perhaps make a distinction between like and love so that you have the option to get notifications for some fandoms you like and not others.

Games: (with strangers) Haven't thought about what specifically would go in here yet, but just having a section with games (y'know like party games and ice-breaker kind of stuff like two truths and a lie or pass it on, etc.) you can strike up with the people around you sounds cool. Just an easy way to pass the time and meet some one between events or while sitting in line. Maybe you can mark yourself as 'looking to play' and two people who have that on get directed to each other somehow. Heck, finding each other can be a game. It can tell you to strike a pose or do a specific motion or say a specific thing to get the other person's attention. And if these games have any show specific material, maybe it can tap into your shared fandoms. This is different from classifieds because it's meant to be quick and on the fly whereas classifieds is a little more for sitting down for a longer amount of time to play a specific game.

Did you take my picture? - Definitely thinking of the best way to help people get those to each other. Couple ideas:1. Way to keep galleries on the app and tag the user you took it of (data storage heavy for the server)2. Have a page on your account to keep a list of who you took pictures of (with their contact info) ((and it'll automatically have their character and name from their profile lineup info)) in case you want to submit your photos later.
3. I think the worst idea but: have people be able to just submit photo dumps/galleries hosted on another site to the app, depending on how good of a recognition algorithm I could find it could produce a bunch of suggestions to any one who has that question from the database of images (wouldn't work great for popular characters but not too much worse than humans?) based on a photo you give it (or the photos you submit for your cosplay lineups)

Bingo: Self explanatory how this could be digitized, right?You can upload an image from your phone to the app and associate it to one of your bingo tiles, once you get a bingo that gets transmitted to the staff who can then review that the photo matches the character (and the app can verify that no one is submitting a photo that's already been submitted?), give you some kind of code that you can take to their booth to get redeemed.Master Alerts - Still thinking about format but definitely want a quick access screen where you can alter all your alert options very quickly - like going on silent to go inside of a panel or dinner or home, etc.Website Integration - Attach it to a full-on website that can carry your profile from year to year, have a friends list, AND A FORUM.It'd be nice. I have no idea how feasible any of this is honestly, there are obviously costs in hosting and maintaining it all. But I'll try to figure that out.
I feel like there's more I'm forgetting, but this is already far more than I can chew for now. I'm sure I'll be polishing it many times. And it seems there's a whitespace glitch on this forum host, sorry for the randomly cramped headings.
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General Kumoricon / Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Last post by PicklePet on November 18, 2019, 10:28:33 am »
Photo dump posted in the cosplay forum! (also with links to people's photo posts on FB as I see them)

Also, I've had a couple more thoughts about this whole forum situation - I can't decide how much of a factor it might be that this forum host site seems a bit outdated - but regardless of that, A. people like things that are new, B. things that are new have an excuse to be officially announced. So - I've recently started studying web and app design. I'm officially making it my goal to build my idea of an app for the con (whether they can actually use it or not) - goal number two can be making a website that links up with it, and what would be on that site? An updated forum. I'm gonna make a new thread with my app ideas.

PaladinCecil: Dahaha thank you, I know they're super cute. > < If only I hadn't been an impoverished little teenager when I found them, I'd have the whole party. ToS is still my favorite, though that may also be because the only other ones I owned myself were Legendia and Graces, I only played some of the others when visiting friends - do you have a favorite?
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Panels & et cetera / Pro-Bending Over as of 2019?!
« Last post by PicklePet on November 18, 2019, 09:59:30 am »
For any who were not there this year: It was announced that this was the last year of pro-bending.
They didn't announce the reason, so I asked the wonderful organizer Ari(sp) why this was and she told me that most of all it is because of a decline in interest to participate. They do not have enough contestants to fill a full panel.
Therefore - if you desperately want this panel to continue and would be willing to commit to competing despite possible schedule conflicts, I would suggest writing to kumoricon's head of programming. I don't know if it would be enough to bring it back since they've already made the decision, but it would just be such a shame to see it disappear.
I cannot express how much I love panels that interact with their audience, and having the opportunity to participate is just about the pinnacle of that. It's such a perfectly clever adaption of what's in the show, but even if you don't like the show I believe you can appreciate spectating it - it's an improved version of dodge ball with several layers of strategy and teamwork added that you will never be able to see or play anywhere else.
It was born here at Kumoricon, I pray it doesn't die here.
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Cosplay / Kumoricon 2019 - Photo dumps!
« Last post by PicklePet on November 18, 2019, 07:29:58 am »
A thread for sharing your 2019 photos! : )

Here's mine!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nBxCH4MyCdAAoXdj6
Thank you to every one who let me take a picture of you, I love all of your costumes!! Unfortunately I'm rusty with my camera and I took a LOT of crummy pictures, I'm SO sorry if I botched you. OTL And to many MANY more people that I did not take pictures of - I loved your costumes too, but either didn't know your character, was in a hurry, thought you looked busy, or was just feeling too shy to ask.
P.S. I was steampunk Hatsume Mei/Hollow Knight's handler, if you remember me. :3

Also I'm going to post links to photo dumps I see on the facebook group.
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Chris Aronson's: https://www.facebook.com/events/1036123879918223/permalink/1175769695953640/
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Nikki Bruon's: https://www.facebook.com/events/1036123879918223/permalink/1175850995945510/
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Tristan Robert's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162674600265357/
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Dylan Neeley's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162674551345357/
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Pen Tuchmann's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162674423070357/
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Cristina Alipio's of Pokemon Photoshoot: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162674300365357/
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Cristina Alipio's: https://www.facebook.com/cristina.alipio.16/posts/2857662544253661
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Carlana Van Houten's: https://www.facebook.com/carlana.vanhouten.3/media_set?set=a.1158193424380554&type=3
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Rice Congee's: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=118201192962094&id=103684461080434
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Sarah Pollard's Bingo: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162672964390357/
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Ciara Smith-Perez's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162672954400357/
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Taylor Chambers': https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162672516870357/
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Sarah Duffy's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162672111300357/
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Kyra Neeley's Day 2: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162672003845357/
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Kyra Neeley's Day 3: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162673818980357/
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Brandon Prudencios: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162671809720357/ See updated one below with more pictures!
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Tabitha Fallau's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162676720150357/
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Rae Okicich's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162677156195357/
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Rae Okicich's Naruto/Boruto Photoshoot: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162677046965357/
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Drew Mccarter's Naruto Underground Founder Photoshoot: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.10162677096260357&type=3
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Kianna Johnson's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162676865855357/
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Aelin Wolfheart's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162676754575357/
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Kathryn Harvey's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162677654895357/
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Thomas Trujillo's: https://www.facebook.com/thomas.e.trujillo/media_set?set=a.3017070894986907&type=3
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Ky Phan's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162677633665357/
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James D. Youngs': https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162678739615357/
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Autumn Vines' Undertale/Deltarune Meetup Photos: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162678653720357/
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Jared Mitchell's Day 1: https://www.facebook.com/jared.mitchell.792/media_set?set=a.10157757820228850&type=3
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Jared Mitchell's Day 2: https://www.facebook.com/jared.mitchell.792/media_set?set=a.10157757854298850&type=3
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Jared Mitchell's Day 3: https://www.facebook.com/jared.mitchell.792/media_set?set=a.10157757961673850&type=3
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Jared Mitchell's My Hero Academia Photoshoot Pics: https://www.facebook.com/jared.mitchell.792/media_set?set=a.10157757897043850&type=3
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Emily Williams' Touhou Photos: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162678491605357/
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Andy Lehi's Touhou Photos: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162678490335357/
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Jason C. Padgett's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162678436595357/
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Ralph Patterson III's couple photos: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162678424945357/
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Rryssa Moo's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162678375360357/
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Dusty Rae O'Neill's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162679762215357/
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Eladia Scoggin's: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162679706565357/
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Meg Ren's: https://www.facebook.com/rozenohr/media_set?set=a.1370995686406579&type=3
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Mia Melody's: https://www.facebook.com/mom8cactus/media_set?set=a.2493750924198690&type=3
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Erin Rice's Pics with their Jevil: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162679393390357/
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Jeffrey Hutton's teaser of pics: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162679215030357/ says he has the rest in a video on his yt channel manofmystery89
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JeiCos's: https://www.facebook.com/pg/jeicoscosphotography/photos/?tab=album&album_id=3148393741843747
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Margaret Jane Irene Hibdon's: https://www.facebook.com/margarethibdon/media_set?set=a.10218592409154124&type=3
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Cristina Alipio's pictures w/ people: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162679120905357/
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Devin Vanassche's Mini Star Wars photoshoot pics: https://www.facebook.com/pg/DevinVFanPage/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1707896789342867
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Brandon Prudencios's updated album: https://www.facebook.com/groups/23802915356/permalink/10162678894755357/
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PicklePet: I completely agree with what you're saying. I'll definitely work on posting here more often and hopefully, we can work on making this place more active.
And I relate to what you said about Facebook. There's nothing wrong with getting likes, and I often like to receive them, but as friendly as they can be, it means so much to get an actual reply, and at Facebook, I wish they'd come more frequently.


Also, I love the Lloyd and Genis chibis you have. Those are awesome. It's always nice to encounter a fellow Tales fan.
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General Kumoricon / Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Last post by PicklePet on November 14, 2019, 08:31:15 pm »
Waah shy but if you see this you know it's me. ; P Feel free to say 'Hi Pickle,' and don't mind my social awkwardness. I'm kinda quiet in person but a chatterbox in writing.


I'm glad you have a bigger net of influence than me, Washougal. ^u^

@Paladin: Hooray, another believer! There is a link to it in the last sentence of homepage, but a bigger hook certainly would help.It's true, also I feel like the ability to 'like' posts removes incentive to come up with thoughtful responses, you can only look through one giant chronological feed of every post made - meaning your post will only be seen by the people who happen to be looking at the group at the moment and the people that check every single notification in their feed. Facebook is convenient for being tapped into Kumoricon's announcements if you're already on there, but in terms of talking to people...

I just feel like this would be one of the best tools for keeping the community connected in between cons - and isn't that connection one of the biggest appeals of the event in the first place? If you like going to the con to meet cool people interested in the same stuff, or just to bask in that atmosphere - you should totally be on here!Don't be afraid of posting and not getting a reply, don't get discouraged from checking back every now and then, don't be afraid of replying to some one weeks or months after their post - worthwhile things take persistence. If you find the courage to take the first step, others will follow! (Tap into your inner protagonist! lol)
That's my pitch.
Have a great con y'all, I'll see you on the other end.
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I relate to how you all feel. I miss this place being active as much as you do.
Several years ago, I posted a topic here asking if the message board was still important, because for most of the year, people weren't posting that often.
When I did, a lot of people responded saying it was, claiming it was the best way to organize gatherings, and they were right. At that time, the board was very active when the con was getting close and right after it ended, since people were posting pictures.
Back then, you think the forums would've continued to remain active that way, and it's sad that they haven't. I still prefer forums over social media sites, because it's so much easier to arrange events. That was why I was able to organize three Team Haberkorn dinners in the past, and when I tried to arrange one two years ago on Facebook, no one responded, because it's impossible to keep topics there organized.
Maybe it's just me, but I think a lot of the inactivity has to do with the con's website not having an immediately visible link to it. While you can still find a a link there when you put the arrow on where it says "Get involved," I think people are more likely to visit if they see the word Forums on main menu.
I still prefer message boards over social media, because topics are more organized and so many Facebook pages tend to be very hostile.
I agree with making efforts to make this place more active and like the ideas that PicklePet and Washougal_Otaku have and there are a lot of members here that I miss talking to.
One thing I think would be good to suggest to the staff would be to have the forums listed on the main menu instead of a sub-link. It was approximately at that time when it became less active and I think a more noticeable link would really help.
I want to see this place become more active again, and it would be depressing if it got closed. Hopefully, we can make it happen.
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Posting Games and Chat / Re: What word comes to your mind?
« Last post by Washougal_Otaku on November 12, 2019, 09:12:36 pm »
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Well, I'll be running the Otaku 25+ panel on Sunday, so I can include the forums in my "meeting agenda."
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General Kumoricon / Re: Not a lot of activity here--are we chatting somewhere else?
« Last post by PicklePet on November 12, 2019, 03:19:03 pm »
Yaas! My delivery will probably be awkward but I'll tell people as I'm taking pics that I'll be posting them here. XD I'm not sure how else to tastefully bring it up, maybe I'll whip up a little badge and wear it on my backpack or something. Something like, "Revive The Forum" over the Kumoricon logo.
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