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Convention Events and Programming => Fan Creations => Topic started by: hieis_girl1 on January 10, 2013, 08:41:19 pm
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How big is the table and how many badges does it come with?
Artist can purchase the maximum of one (1) 6 ft table, which includes two (2) badges, for $80. Additional badges (maximum of 3) can be purchased at a discounted rate of $25 per badge. Payment will be due upon approval.
Can I sell food? Can share food with friends and attendees?
No. You are not allowed to sell manufactured or homemade food. You are allowed to have a bowl of wrapped candy for attendees to enjoy. You are also allowed to share your private food with friends. However, you are not allowed to sell or share hand-made food with attendees. This is a rule that is to protect you, the attendee, and the convention.
Am I allowed to have multiple artists selling at one table?
Yes. You will be given the chance to discuss this on the application form.
Can I sell fan art?
Yes. As long as your art is composed by your own hand (no tracing or related activities) and does not violate any copyright laws, you are allowed to sell it. You will be asked to remove any art that does not meet these qualifications.
I produce my own products, is that considered commercial production?
No. Anything that you produce with your own hands (physically or design and sent to a small company to produce for you) is perfect for Artists Alley. However, products produced by a company not owned by you or you did not have any hand in the design is not okay.
Can I display my yaoi/hentai or otherwise adult material?
You are allowed to have adult material at your table, but it must not be available for minors to see, touch or otherwise come into contact with. You may have a sign stating that you have such materials but you must checked their ID before allowing any attendee to see it. The Artists Alley Manager will also distribute pin-back buttons that will state "please ask me about my adult material". We will strictly enforce all of the adult material rules as detailed in the contract. If you still have questions, please contact the Artists Alley Manager.
What does it mean that Artists Alley applications are "lightly juried"?
Many shows, both conventions and otherwise, jury their applicants to some extent. Because there will be more demand then there is space, it is important to make sure there is a chance for anyone who wants to apply. This will not only allow for us to see all those who are interested in being involved with Kumoricon, but also helps to make sure that we have return artists present, as well as new faces that haven't been with our Artists Alley before.
I want to apply for Artists Alley, but I don't have any current pictures of my work. Should I apply now and send in updated pictures later?
No. When you apply, you need to have everything you want to submit ready to go. Make sure your gallery and/or website is up-to-date and represents your most current work.
Do you have a question not represented here?
Please email us at artists@kumoricon.org.
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In past years dealers were able to get some badges right? is that happening again, and if it is how many? I am planing to apply for a table with a group of friends.
One piece I am working on right now to try and sell has a good amount of foul language, would it be treated the same as +18 material?
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Going to try out again this year since our small shop has craft bazaars, Newcon PDX, and Chibichibi con under our belt 8)
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I'm just trying to get an idea of how much a table might cost. Like how much where they last year?
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I'm just trying to get an idea of how much a table might cost. Like how much where they last year?
Ya know, I belive I asked this before, and they said they didn't know for sure what it'll cost..They also never answered when I asked about last year's prices either..lol
I would also like to know this..
Also, I asked in the old 2012 thread (before this was up) about how many people at the table and blah blah blah. We need 3 people at the table and wanted to make sure how many members the AA badge covered..If it WILL cover all 3 of us, it will make life a lot easier for us poor people lol
I know that question was sort of answered before, but they said they weren't sure and would look into it or something and I never heard back..
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I just did a simple google search and found this from Kumori's website archive https://www.kumoricon.org/sitehistory/2010/www.kumoricon.org/index487c.html?page_id=92 (https://www.kumoricon.org/sitehistory/2010/www.kumoricon.org/index487c.html?page_id=92)
Prices 2010
- First dealer’s table: $230 for 10′x10′
- Additional tables: $180 each
- Artist table: $85 each for 10′x10′
- Power is a separate charge at $30 per outlet (600 watts, 120 volts).
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I just did a simple google search and found this from Kumori's website archive https://www.kumoricon.org/sitehistory/2010/www.kumoricon.org/index487c.html?page_id=92 (https://www.kumoricon.org/sitehistory/2010/www.kumoricon.org/index487c.html?page_id=92)
Prices 2010
- First dealer’s table: $230 for 10′x10′
- Additional tables: $180 each
- Artist table: $85 each for 10′x10′
- Power is a separate charge at $30 per outlet (600 watts, 120 volts).
Not sure if you know the answer to this, seeing as you googled it lol, but I wonder if the "Artist Table" is the one someone like me would be at. I figure dealers' tables are for vendors, and additional would be anything extra the vendors need..Seeing as vendors a lot of the time are actual stores that sell licenced stuff.
nyone know anything about that?
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Well the page is Exhibitors & Artist's Alley, so honestly I would assume "dealer's" applies to people who want to be in the Dealer's Hall (Exhibitor's Hall), and the Artist's Alley is the "Artist table".
Keep in mind that these prices are from 2010, so the prices could've changed. You're probably looking at anywhere from 75$-150$ for Kumori's artist alley tables. The price does not include registration, I'm pretty sure; You'll have to buy a badge separately.
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Well the page is Exhibitors & Artist's Alley, so honestly I would assume "dealer's" applies to people who want to be in the Dealer's Hall (Exhibitor's Hall), and the Artist's Alley is the "Artist table".
Keep in mind that these prices are from 2010, so the prices could've changed. You're probably looking at anywhere from 75$-150$ for Kumori's artist alley tables. The price does not include registration, I'm pretty sure; You'll have to buy a badge separately.
Thanks for the info. Just to clearify, I've alrady been told about price. The price of the table includes registration. You get that badge instead of buying a normal one.
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any idea on when the signups will be?
i really want to try and make it in this year...TT_TT
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any idea on when the signups will be?
i really want to try and make it in this year...TT_TT
Yea I asked that a few times and no one can give me even a month. They have said "soon" or "in a few months" or something like that.
Anyway, I just keep checking the AA section on the main page a bunch (like 3+ times a day) just to see if anything gets put up
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any idea on when the signups will be?
i really want to try and make it in this year...TT_TT
Yea I asked that a few times and no one can give me even a month. They have said "soon" or "in a few months" or something like that.
Anyway, I just keep checking the AA section on the main page a bunch (like 3+ times a day) just to see if anything gets put up
Do you think you could message me if you get an exact answer ever? Last year i had a huge no reply problem about the AA....-_-;;;
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Of course I will. I'll let you know as soon as I do lol
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Of course I will. I'll let you know as soon as I do lol
lol thank you very much ^^
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Ok I'm starting to wonder if anyone on staff even knows anything about the AA in any way..I mean seriously I've asked the same question a few times yet not a single staff member can give me a straight answer. I have 3 people, myself included, that are planning on selling at one table. However, we have to know how many people the AA bage covers. I have had different answers all from the same person. Both the other sellers need to know if they need to buy a membership or not BEFORE it maxes out in price. Plus, if it doesn't cover certain people, then they need to know before the signups go up. This is VERY important to whether they even GO or not. I can't sell without my studio partners meaning if it does not cover them, then I don't sell. Someone needs to get back to me with an actual answer
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Staff is probably tied up in the higher details of getting everything together, but I DID run into our lovely AA Coordinator while working SakuraCon's AA. She told me there should be info up in the next couple of weeks, worst case it'll be early May, but they are getting it together.
If I remember right, last year the table came with 2 badges, and any extras had to be paid for. I could be wrong though, our little business did a few cons and a lot of smaller events so it's kind of a blur. I know the general rule of thumb they give is to register before the AA opens up just to make sure you are covered for registration
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Well does anyone have an email maybe to reach someone that can give me an answer?
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Ok I got an email and a price and the info I was looking for.
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Ok I got an email and a price and the info I was looking for.
Any chance you could share that info with the rest of us? :)
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WHIPEOUT EDIT:
https://www.kumoricon.org/contact (https://www.kumoricon.org/contact)
That is the contact page.
AA is near the bottom.
Tables are $75 and include two 3day membership badges. You can also (as they told me) buy up to 3 extra badges (I assume for table mate that the normal AA badge didn't cover, like how I have 3 people) at dicount prices.
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WHIPEOUT EDIT:
https://www.kumoricon.org/contact (https://www.kumoricon.org/contact)
That is the contact page.
AA is near the bottom.
Tables are $75 and include two 3day membership badges. You can also (as they told me) buy up to 3 extra badges (I assume for table mate that the normal AA badge didn't cover, like how I have 3 people) at dicount prices.
Alright thank you very much for this. if there is any more updates let me know ^^
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No problem. Still haven't gotten a date of when it'll be up so..
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I want to try to sign up too. We went to Kumoricon the last time it was in Portland, and finally agreed we need to go again. I have all sorts of odd art. ::)
Yea I asked that a few times and no one can give me even a month. They have said "soon" or "in a few months" or something like that.
Anyway, I just keep checking the AA section on the main page a bunch (like 3+ times a day) just to see if anything gets put up
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Wow, there has been a lot of traffic on here in the past few days! I apologize for not getting around to responding to you all yet! I've been busy with school, and Jen with work. When I get home to a computer, I will go through and answer everyone's questions. Again, so sorry for being slow to respond!!
-Krys
AA Assistant Manager
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I see you have figured out things with the badges, and I apologize profusely for not answering those questions sooner! It is $75 for the table plus 2 badges, and up to 3 additional badges at a discounted price.
As for when registration will be up, it has never been up before SakuraCon weekend, mostly because there is a lot of overlap between artists that attend both and have tables, including Jen herself, and do not have the time to focus on a second con. We are meeting up tomorrow (4/15) to get things lined up and ready to launch, so I ask for your patience for just a few more days before I announce what we talked about and, hopefully, when the applications will be up.
Again, I apologize for being so behind in getting information to you all, but we all do have lives outside of conventions. I will get more info to you all as soon as I get it!
-Krys
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Any new information on this? im hoping to know when signups are, and if the list of who made it in will be announced before con so if we do get in will we have enough time to re stock instead of know like a few days before con?
also i wanted to ask if we should prereg then when it opens sign up and trade in our badges (if you get a booth) at con? cause its not really fair that so many wait to try and join the aa and venders and miss the cheaper prices just to not get a booth and have to pay the at the door price TT_TT
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also i wanted to ask if we should prereg then when it opens sign up and trade in our badges (if you get a booth) at con? cause its not really fair that so many wait to try and join the aa and venders and miss the cheaper prices just to not get a booth and have to pay the at the door price TT_TT
THIS!! I need to know this info more then anything..I don't think it's anywhere near fair for us to pay for a booth then not be able to get in for the cheaper price just because you guys take a long time to get the aa signups going
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From the Artist's Alley page on the main site.
"Artists AlleyThe Kumoricon Artists Alley welcomes freelance artists by providing space to sell their personal works at the convention. More information will be posted on Artists Alley as Kumoricon 2013 approaches.Artists seeking to participate in Artists Alley should not register as attendees at this time, but instead, apply to Artists Alley once applications open."
Now once the apps go out, and the deadline hits, decisions are made before the next price hike, which is not until August 15th. The best pre-reg price has already passed, so it's currently $40 until the aforementioned date. Before that it was $35, so you only missed out on a $5 savings.
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We get 2 Badges and a table for $75, perfect. NOW what is the price for each extra badge? Because I plan on making out mine with a fewfriends that will be helping me on my booth.
Now I am just wondering how much product I need. . . . JI am just way to new to Con selling. . .
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I think extra badges are just the cost of the standard con badge. We're a husband and wife team though, so we've never really paid a lot of attention to extra badges.
As for how much merchandise, it's a tough call. You don't want to have so much that you end up not profiting at all. Unfortunately, last year I underestimated and was doing this solo, so I had to drive back up from Vancouver to Olympia, where my wife stayed up all night to make more of the jewelry pieces I sold out of on day one. Then I left at 5:00am to get there at 7 and be good to go when the doors opened back up..
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I think extra badges are just the cost of the standard con badge. We're a husband and wife team though, so we've never really paid a lot of attention to extra badges.
As for how much merchandise, it's a tough call. You don't want to have so much that you end up not profiting at all. Unfortunately, last year I underestimated and was doing this solo, so I had to drive back up from Vancouver to Olympia, where my wife stayed up all night to make more of the jewelry pieces I sold out of on day one. Then I left at 5:00am to get there at 7 and be good to go when the doors opened back up..
They are saying "Discounted rate" so I HOPE they are cheaper. I have to get the 3 guys in. . . one of them is my Booth Babe and she will be wearing a Scale Maille Bikini with some attachments for modesty. . .
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Jay- Thank you for helping answer questions when I've been unable to jump on here!
Extra badges: We have yet to determine the final price for extra badges, but they will be cheaper than the current pre-reg prices; final prices are TBA, as well as table prices.
Registration will be open hopefully early May. We need to finalize the Artists contract for this year before we can do anything else. Registration will close at the end of May.
Emails will go out to those that are accepted into Artists Alley by the end of June/beginning of July most likely. That will give those accepted two months to get their inventory stocked up.
-Krys
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Well that is a bonus for me. What are the clothing restrictions? I am attaching a picture on something I would like to have 1-2 of my workers wear. Is this an acceptible garb?
(Note attached picture is not my work but is used as an example of what I wish to do)
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If a costume is fine for the con then it's fine for AA. There aren't any special dress rules for AA.
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If a costume is fine for the con then it's fine for AA. There aren't any special dress rules for AA.
I have to be careful, a few friends at sakura con got in trouble for dress similar to this and since this will be my first con I dont want to get kicked out. . .
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Lysenis- If you have any questions about the costume requirements, please look at the guidelines on the home page for the convention. If you still aren't sure, there should be an email address listed for you to contact with additional questions.
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If a costume is fine for the con then it's fine for AA. There aren't any special dress rules for AA.
I have to be careful, a few friends at sakura con got in trouble for dress similar to this and since this will be my first con I dont want to get kicked out. . .
Fair enough, but it's not really an Artist Alley question, it's a general con dress question. Also, they won't kick you out unless you're belligerent. If it's a problem they will ask you to cover up or leave so you can go change, though.
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What are the table sizes that AA will get? What about power strips? How many artists are you looking to sign up?
What are your criteria for picking artists? Is it by how many artists are doing the same thing, or products or senority (how long they have been going) what? Cuz to be prefectly honest, I dont want to waste my time as well as my friends time if we are not even going to get picked to be apart of AA. (Not trying to be rude just real)
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Lysenis-
If you read the FAQ at the beginning of the thread, some of your questions will be answered. I did just update it, so I apologize if some of the answers weren't up there before.
You will have to provide your own equipment, which includes power strips. If you require an outlet, then let us know if you are accepted, and we will be sure to provide you with a table next to one. The number of artists/groups we are accepting depends on how many sign up, honestly. We are considering trying something different this year which will affect the number of artists/booths that participate, so the number is a fluxuating one.
It is always a better idea to apply and end up getting turned away then not applying at all. You will still be able to receive a discounted price on passes if you are turned away, so there is not much loss to applying.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
-Krys
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Obviously applying then being shot down is a better chance then not even applying at all, but it's basically saying to have photos of all your stuff before you sign up..What if we aren't finished making everything? Like we have quite a few things, but we are still making everything, I mean we still have a few months, that enough to get a crap ton of stock finished (I mean crafted and sculpted items, not prints). We make things like keychains and phone charms, but we are constantly thinking of new items o make, so what about that? It says if you don't have pics of all your stuff to not apply until we have pics of everything. So far we only have a few items (but we have a lot of stock of those items).
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Take photos of what you do have in stock, or even old photos of product you will be making, and then let us know what else you have already planned to make and bring with you.
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Does Facebook pages work for this or would you rather prefer a blog?
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Hey Krys,
Have you and Jen determined location for AA this year? Last year was in a great location (good traffic flow and really good temp control). Hopefully its back in the same place... or even better :)
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AA is going to be in the same place as last year! It definitely worked well for everyone, as we never had anyone complain about the location. We're glad you guys loved the location as well!
-Krys
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A/C, good table layouts and convenient restrooms? Who's going to complain?
My only complaint are those cursed rocks outside that were determined to and successfully rolled my ankle Sunday morning.
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Ah, yes. Those dang rocks were an issue. Part of the problem was people walking through them, instead of using the walkway like they should. We'll definitely keep an eye out on that this year and see how to fix it.
-Krys
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I would also like to know about using facebook pictures. I post just about everything I make on Facebook. This is my first time applying for an AA table and I'm really excited.
I was quite disapointed in the Sakura-con AA as most of the artists there were just selling pictures. I was looking for more artisan crafts and not just art(which was still amazing!). Are you going to try to divide the tables up so there will be an equal number of artisans and artists? Or just base it off of who applies??
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I would also like to know about using facebook pictures. I post just about everything I make on Facebook. This is my first time applying for an AA table and I'm really excited.
I was quite disapointed in the Sakura-con AA as most of the artists there were just selling pictures. I was looking for more artisan crafts and not just art(which was still amazing!). Are you going to try to divide the tables up so there will be an equal number of artisans and artists? Or just base it off of who applies??
This is important for me as well so I would love to know!
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Tygermane-
It really depends on what the ratio of prints : crafts is. We usually have a fairly balanced ratio between the two, because many tables hold multiple artists where one sells fanart and another sells crafted items.
As for Facebook photos, those will be fine. Applicants are asked to provide links of their main online shop. If Facebook is where your online "shop" is located, then that is perfectly acceptable.
-Krys
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Its the 6th of May and there is still no Artist Alley registration up. . . whats going on? What are you guys only going to give yourselves a week or so to run through all the applicants? Seems like a bad idea to me at the very least. . .
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Lysenis-
I said the applications were shooting to be up in early May, which it still is. There is only so fast a speed we can go when dealing with the legalities of finalizing the contracts our Artists have to sign. We are still on schedule to what we were last year, and everything ran smoothly for the applicants. Please just give us a little more time. As I said, there is only so fast a speed we can move.
-Krys
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So, for some of my charms my friend will be helping me make the fan art, and below every picture will be the credit and copyrights, but the one thing I wanna double check is if we give all credit to who credit is due to, would we possibly be able to print our symbols if we cant manage to draw them correctly?
Examples of the symbols are like; FMA Oroboros Dragon. Avatar Nation Symbols. Maybe a couple Naruto Symbols, ETC.
I plan on having a binder or folder with the charcters and symbols all together so I only have to display a few samples, and down at the bottom I was going to write, for example; '© Hiromu Arawaka' or '© Masashi Kishimoto'
Would this be ohkay?
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Question..I see the FAQ was put up under the AA tab on the main page..Does that mean we can email about a contract? Or will there actually be a clicky later where the signups actually are? I just wanna clear this up, not having been there before. Thanks
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Teddy_Bear-
Printing off stuff is more than welcome. That's actually how most artists sell their work. Even the professionals. It's a lot cheaper to digitize your art and then print them up as you need them as opposed to hand drawing each of them. Not that there aren't artists who hand draw a lot of the things they sell! As for giving credit, that is perfect!
Jeimi-
There will be a link put up on the AA tab once the application process is opened.
-Krys
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So, for some of my charms my friend will be helping me make the fan art, and below every picture will be the credit and copyrights, but the one thing I wanna double check is if we give all credit to who credit is due to, would we possibly be able to print our symbols if we cant manage to draw them correctly?
Examples of the symbols are like; FMA Oroboros Dragon. Avatar Nation Symbols. Maybe a couple Naruto Symbols, ETC.
I plan on having a binder or folder with the charcters and symbols all together so I only have to display a few samples, and down at the bottom I was going to write, for example; '© Hiromu Arawaka' or '© Masashi Kishimoto'
Would this be ohkay?
I just wanted to clear something up that I think got missed.
This is from the Kumoricon Artist Alley FAQ/Rules:
Can I sell fan art?
Yes. As long as your art is composed by your own hand (no tracing or related activities) and does not violate any copyright laws, you are allowed to sell it. You will be asked to remove any art that does not meet these qualifications.
Printing art that is your own (or your friend's with their permission and credit) is fine since most artists work digitally, however it sounds like you are asking to print already-made symbols that you would pull from Google (or anywhere that is not from your own hand), and crediting the original artists but selling them for your own profit. This is in fact, illegal and even though you are crediting them, it is a matter of copyright infringement, as it is highly unlikely that you've gotten permission from the original artists or corporate owners of the property. If you want to use symbols such as the FMA Oroboros Dragon, Avatar Nation symbols, or Naruto symbols, they have to be hand drawn (and not traced) by law. For example, this is the same with the Batman symbol. If you wanted to put it on something, even a print, it cannot look like pre-existing Batman symbols.
Items with licensed game/anime/manga/etc. art on it are often referred to as grey-market items (aka bootleg) because they are fake merchandise and stolen imagery. If you or your friend are drawing (not tracing or re-drawing an already existing image) the images and symbols (but not logos, that is another infringement issue as well) and printing them off, then that is fine.
I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here! I just ran across this discussion (as I'm looking out for AA registration as well) and I've seen some concerning questions and imagery concerning buttons especially (where artists who are newer to the con circuit are using googled images for buttons and crafts) and I do not want any newer AA artists to get in trouble legally, nor do I want Kurmoricon to run into legal issues because of this. Last year, Kumoricon was my favourite convention to sell at, and I want it to be just as enjoyable to everyone.
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Oh, no no. I would be drawing them by my own hand. I was trying to ask if we could print them out yes, but not sell as our own. I dont have a very steady hand, as I am a naturally shaky person. I was talking about a base, like light projecting a symbol onto a wall and outlining the rim, to go back and touch it up myself later after I do what I need to do for myself.
Some sights such as Zerochan.net and MiniTokyo.net, its hard to contact people cause unlike DA they dont have message boxes or anything.
A lot of people use bases for their work, everywhere and any time for anything. Thats what I was asking, if I could use a picture as a base, litterally just the bodies, and everything else by hand. It's not exactly copyright, cause bases are fairuse, unless stated otherwise on DA.
You're not stepping on anybodies toes, Promise! Its that all the characters we want to get done, my friend cant do them on her own so we were trying to find a way that I might be able to help get some fan art made for the both of us. I was thinking of asking my other friend to give us a hand as well.
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Aaa forgive me, I feel like I'm misunderstanding. But what you just described is tracing, which is again, against AA rules. The entire drawing must be done by your hand, not traced (even if the base is supposedly fairuse). The "no tracing or related activities" in the AA's rules encompasses what you just described. It is still stealing. Bases are often not put up for commercial use.
Please let the AA director correct me if I am wrong about this.
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I get what your saying, but I dont think you understand completely.
I'm drawing the symbols for my bows and I will be drawing them by my own hand.
I am asking if it will be ohkay to practice 'tracing' the outline, till I get a good enough grasp to do it without.
the Practice Makes Perfect kind of thing.
I was talking about a base, like light projecting a symbol onto a wall and outlining the rim, to go back and touch it up myself later after I do what I need to do for myself.
I'm not very good with words, in any situation, online or off. I take medication for my anxiety and headaches it helps keep me steady and calm. To go back and touch it up myself later, I meant to go back once I get the hang of drawing it and taking care of, well myself. -points above, will erase that when I see a responce from you.
Also, I didn't bold that to make a point or to be mad, just so you knew which line I was talking about.
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Hmmm I guess I'm just confused as to what you're using them for! Are you selling these as prints? It is just uncouth to have traced work at your table in AA (for sale or as example, etc) either way. If you are using bases as practice at home, but not for the convention, I guess I am confused as to why you need AA permission to do this.
Even outlining just the rim is tracing, even if you don't trace the face, clothes, etc. You cannot sell work that uses this method, is what i'm saying. It is also unwise to sell work that is referenced completely from pose. When referencing, the pose needs to be 70% different from the reference you are drawing from to avoid stealing/tracing/copying/etc.
I guess I am confused as to the exact purpose these drawings will have at the convention! Please let me know what exactly you are using them for at your table. Maybe that will help clear any confusion.
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I'm just a really paranoid person, and this is my first year in the artist alley, IF I do the artist alley.
They will be made into charms for bows, bracelets, or stickers and buttons.
The Character Charms will be made by hand from two friends will be getting full credit.
I'm not to confused, I'm actually get my answer's somehow~
I'm sorry for being confusing, its been busy busy and I'm trying to focus, but not to well today, apparently.
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I understand! Kumoricon is a great convention for your first year, so I hope everything works out.
Hmm okay. So if you are making them into charms, stickers, or buttons, you cannot use any method of tracing. And like I mentioned, should you be referencing from another photo or drawing, it needs to be 70% different in pose to avoid copyright issues.
If you are tracing as a study, and then not tracing AT ALL for the final product, there should be no issues. However, like I said, bases are often not free for commercial use, as you would be profiting off of someone else's work.
In the end, you cannot trace or redraw imagery for anything you are planning to sell. (Sorry if I am sounding like a broken record, I'm sure you get my point) Even if they are drawing it themselves, it cannot be copied exactly from another drawing (pose or otherwise).
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Haha. Got it. The only issue I'm trying to work around are the symbols.
Making those 70% different from the original concept is a bit difficult.
I wouldn't be charging for the image though, only the buttons themselves..
My dad said he thought that would be ohkay, but that is another thing I needed to check on.
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Symbols are not so much a 70% rule as they are just hand drawing them in your own way. I would suggest looking at how different people draw the zodiac symbols, cutie marks, etc. So long as you are not tracing the symbol, but drawing your own take on it, you would be okay.
You cannot take an image that you did not draw and sell it at material cost (or any cost at all). You could give it away for free, but even then taking other peoples' work is unethical.
I am assuming that you would be charging more than material cost for the buttons anyway. If you were only selling the buttons and not the image, you would not profit from your sales at all (and that's no fun!). If you put imagery that is not yours and is traced/copied/etc. in the buttons and sell them, you ARE selling the image. People won't be looking at your buttons for button parts, but for the image on them. If you put blank button parts on your table, it is unlikely you would sell them.
Selling for material costs only applies to Homestuck (and even then, only with Hussie's permission). And even homestuck work is drawn by the artist selling and not taken from the comic.
The 70% rule pertains to referencing drawings (such as characters) for poses, designs, etc.
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My questions have been answered!!
Thank you! I hope to see you at con. You've been a big help <33
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You're welcome. I wish you luck in preparing and applying! It is always a stressful time (I'm doing this year's financial plan and it is making me weep. My travel costs are so high this year because I am doing ~8 conventions).
Please feel free to message me if you have any other questions (not just copyright issues). And I apologize to the mods for hijacking this thread, but I hope other artists, new and old, might find this information just as useful.
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You're welcome. I wish you luck in preparing and applying! It is always a stressful time (I'm doing this year's financial plan and it is making me weep. My travel costs are so high this year because I am doing ~8 conventions).
Please feel free to message me if you have any other questions (not just copyright issues). And I apologize to the mods for hijacking this thread, but I hope other artists, new and old, might find this information just as useful.
I WISH I was doing 8 cons this year! This will be my first con ever and then I am hoping for Oricon. . .
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I think it's good to start out small! It may seem ideal to do a billion cons in a year at first, but it's really stressful and tiring. I suggest easing into smaller conventions like Kumoricon, and then as you get a feel for what sells, what doesn't, etc. you can start jumping into larger conventions. Conventions are an expensive process, so it's best to keep costs low until you start bringing in the money to go to more conventions and travel more often. This year I'm finally doing my first convention in Canada, but since I'm leaving the country and it's the biggest con of the year for me, it's VERY expensive and I am praying I really bring in the dough haha.
Because I'm in the western comics scene, I am attending mostly comic conventions instead of anime conventions this year. Trying to sell some work while I grab a portfolio review or two from artists and editors for publishing companies in hopes of job offers.
I wish you luck! I'm not familiar with Oricon, but I do hope you get a spot there as well!
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This is probably not possible, and that's totally okay, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I'm kind of interested in the possibility of buying two tables, if I'm approved for the show? I just have so much stuff. @__@
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If we have a page on facebook for our products do the people who look over applications look through all of the different product folders (picture albums) or just skim the page?
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I can't say for certain, since I'm not a staffer, but from previous con experiences, getting more than one AA table is usually frowned upon due to the limited amount available and the fight to get them. Some of the larger cons had an issue with a particular artist that would use his friends to buy up multiple tables and they would all be selling his prints.
Multiple tables are more accepted in the Dealer's hall for most conventions though.
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Yes, cons do vary on how many tables they'll allow you to buy! And that is alright. c: I just want to ask so I can know the answer. I would rather have one table in the artist alley than two tables in the dealer's room, artists are way funner.
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Blix-
We only allow one table per application/group application. That way we can ensure we can get the maximum number of Artists and product into AA as possible.
Dev-
We will look through the various albums if that is how they're sorted, for sure. So there's no need to mess around with your albums if that's what you're worried about!
-Krys
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Thanks for answering my question! It's definitely not a big room, so sticking to one is understandable.
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Blix-
No, it's not. But it's certainly bigger than the space we had in 2011!
-Krys
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Ah yeah I was happy to see the new venue last year! I also exhibited in 2010, in that parking garage that turned out to be okay but was still a parking garage. XD I think this new hotel was pretty nice, I don't think you really need a bigger venue (yet.)
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So I should just post pics of what the things I am working on and will be selling will look like eh? Since it is practically the middle of the month already. . . .
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NVM. Me and my parrtner decided that having our first AA in a con we have never been to, miht not be the best idea. Since we don't know layout, clientel, and other info we might want to know, it just seems a better idea to start at a con we have been to first.
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Lysenis-
Please be patient with us. There is a lot of fine detailing things that we have to get finalised before we can open registration. It's been a little slower than we had planned, but there is still plenty of time before the convention for artists to apply, get approved, and start stocking their product. Any photos that are posted to the forums will be ignored, because it will only cause us to spend more time looking through them when we have the applications set up to look through. We're almost ready for applications to open up and are working at getting them up and open for you all ASAP.
Jeimi-
I'm sad to hear that you've decided to hold off this year, but it is understandable. I hope you get the information you're looking for while you're at the convention!
-Krys
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Sorry to pop in with another question when you're already busy but do all the prints I intend to sell at the convention need to be complete before I try to register for a table? I'm currently thumbnailing/sketching a fanart series of my five favorite anime for the con but I just started. ;
Thanks for answering in advance!
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I am with Lorien077 on this. I say this because there are pictures I have approved by the orginal artisian to use as an example for what I will make (since the work is handcrafted from wire to ring to finished item, by me it becomes unique to me)
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Lorien-
Not EVERYTHING you plan on selling has to be represented when you apply. We just need a sample of the work you're offering.
Lysenis-
As long as you have completed samples of your crafts, then that doesn't matter. You could provide us with the pictures so we know what else you're planning on offering, but it isn't necessary. We just need to get an idea of what you're offering so we can do our light jurying.
-Krys
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Lorien-
Not EVERYTHING you plan on selling has to be represented when you apply. We just need a sample of the work you're offering.
Lysenis-
As long as you have completed samples of your crafts, then that doesn't matter. You could provide us with the pictures so we know what else you're planning on offering, but it isn't necessary. We just need to get an idea of what you're offering so we can do our light jurying.
-Krys
Interesting. . . . doing that with drawn works is one thing but with artisian work. . . . well its your con.
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Ah thank goodness, that's a relief to hear hieis_girl1. :) Thank you again for answering my question.
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Lysenis-
It's the same for everyone. So long as there's a sample of what you're planning on selling, then you don't have to have every single thing represented when you apply.
-Krys
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I don't see how that can't apply to artisan works as well. Being a crafter myself, one of the things I pride myself on is consistency and quality. While I always have new merchandise at each con I go to, there are some items that I will always carry because folks love them. I've had people come to me at different cons and buy one, saying "I saw you guys at X as well, and wanted one of these but you ran out/didn't have the color you want but this time you do yay!"
Even if the stuff I send in for samples and demos is not exactly what I may have in stock, it still shows your level of skill. The light jury really only consists of showing you have a modicum of talent and can deliver what you pitch.
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11 days till the end of May. Any news?
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Lysenis-
We're going to try to get applications up on the 1st of June. And will be open for the entire month.
-Krys
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I hope the applications OR waitlist won't be judged at all on the time stamp of the application? ^^; The 1st of June is the weekend of A-kon. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only artist going to A-kon and planning to apply for Kumoricon.
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if the sign ups take till june to get out and will be up for a month, then there has to be time for judging of course which if that takes another month there will only be a little less then a month for the people who actually make it in to re stock for the convention... this is causing quite a lot of stress...
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if the sign ups take till june to get out and will be up for a month, then there has to be time for judging of course which if that takes another month there will only be a little less then a month for the people who actually make it in to re stock for the convention... this is causing quite a lot of stress...
And people wonder where my warm fuzzy feeling went about all this ...
So pretty much we will have a month to stock and build our inventory... Yup warm fuzzy dissapearing faster every day..
If I could make a reccommendation, start the process next week have it go till the middle of June, and make your dicissions from then to the end of June. That way you give us time to make our inventory so we are not running around with no heads when our inventory runs out, because it will with a month of prep.
Also if this is not a priority it should be. I know i for one will be spending $150 for my booth alone, if I get chosen.
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Blix-
We are not a first come, first serve process. Everyone will get equal judging opportunities. It is solely based on your product, not when you apply.
Devy-
We won't take the entire month of July to go through the applicants. You will have time to restock your stores in time for con. And if you don't think you will have the time once confirmation emails go out, I would highly suggest getting started now. Crafts and prints don't have an "expiration date" and can be saved for future selling tables if you don't get into Kumoricon's AA.
Lysenis-
We can only move so fast. With how many people are involved in getting the application and contract ready and working and just up on the website so we can test it, it takes time. And as I said to Devy, if would be wise to start getting your inventory refilled now, as your products will not go bad if you end up not being accepted into AA.
-Krys
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Products is one thing, but we Also have to worry about transportation, housing and a few other details. Due to the delays in process these basic needs are going to increase in price for us.
The point is not the fact that our products will last it comes down to the continued delays. What if there is a delay in June? To be honest, why is there a need for so many people in this process? At most you need 4 people, 1 lawyer, head of Kumoricon (or the vice chair) head of artist alley and the vice chair of artists alley.
Its not me i worry about but your reputations. These delays look bad for you, and as Dev pointed out it is causing stress and worry for those that want to do this...
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[Please understand that I am not using 'you' in direct reference to anyone in this thread, but in regard to any artist attending AA, including myself]
Personally I am struggling to understand what all of this fuss is about. While I agree that it is ideal to have more time between confirmation of space and the convention itself, delays do happen. Complaining about the delays continuously will not make registration come to us any faster, and Krys has been nothing but polite, patient, and communicative while responding to questions and comments that have been quite disrespectful. There's a level of entitlement in them that is really disappointing, and has given AA's (or rather, the artists who attend them) a bad name at other conventions.
A-kon is a fantastic example of a convention with late notification. According to friends who are tabling in their AA, they JUST got their confirmation last week, and the convention opens May 31st. Kumoricon is trying to give us as much time as possible and we should still have approximately 1 1/2 months to finish prep, secure a place to stay, and secure a way to get there. This is, admittedly, not much time if you are traveling long distance like my table partner and myself are, however if you are local, or driving, this should not be a problem.
Even unconfirmed, it is free to reserve your hotel/hostel or plan to stay with friends in their homes. Hotels will ask for your credit card, but will not charge you, and so long as the room is not cancelled the day before the convention, cancellation is free as well. While I have no way to know if I will be going this year, I do have my room booked, and now I am just waiting to book my bus ticket (which can be purchased as refundable as well, but is often more expensive to do in the long run).
A solution to not rushing the production of merchandise would be preparing before even applying for a convention. Most artists I know work year round to produce new merch. This not only keeps you prepared for last minute convention adventures (I was once informed by a friend that I was tabling with her the DAY before the convention. Let me tell you, that's cutting it close), but keeps your products fresh and your sales booming. It allows you to retire products that don't sell well while keeping fans and attendees that might see you at multiple conventions buying. Without this constant flow of work, eventually people run out of things to buy.
Being prepared ahead of time also allows for you to work with inevitable convention delays. While we wish they were all as reliable as the Japan Rail, it's just not the case. It is never a convention's fault that you cannot get your merchandise done in time.
As it is, Kumoricon is doing its best to be accommodating. If the convention date is too close for comfort, or you do not like how the convention is being run, then don't go. If your merchandise would have to be rushed and you might not have the quality you would be proud of, or the quantity you need to run your shop in time for September, then it might be wise to look for another convention farther off. Or plan for next year.
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[Please understand that I am not using 'you' in direct reference to anyone in this thread, but in regard to any artist attending AA, including myself]
Personally I am struggling to understand what all of this fuss is about. While I agree that it is ideal to have more time between confirmation of space and the convention itself, delays do happen. Complaining about the delays continuously will not make registration come to us any faster, and Krys has been nothing but polite, patient, and communicative while responding to questions and comments that have been quite disrespectful. There's a level of entitlement in them that is really disappointing, and has given AA's (or rather, the artists who attend them) a bad name at other conventions.
A-kon is a fantastic example of a convention with late notification. According to friends who are tabling in their AA, they JUST got their confirmation last week, and the convention opens May 31st. Kumoricon is trying to give us as much time as possible and we should still have approximately 1 1/2 months to finish prep, secure a place to stay, and secure a way to get there. This is, admittedly, not much time if you are traveling long distance like my table partner and myself are, however if you are local, or driving, this should not be a problem.
Even unconfirmed, it is free to reserve your hotel/hostel or plan to stay with friends in their homes. Hotels will ask for your credit card, but will not charge you, and so long as the room is not cancelled the day before the convention, cancellation is free as well. While I have no way to know if I will be going this year, I do have my room booked, and now I am just waiting to book my bus ticket (which can be purchased as refundable as well, but is often more expensive to do in the long run).
A solution to not rushing the production of merchandise would be preparing before even applying for a convention. Most artists I know work year round to produce new merch. This not only keeps you prepared for last minute convention adventures (I was once informed by a friend that I was tabling with her the DAY before the convention. Let me tell you, that's cutting it close), but keeps your products fresh and your sales booming. It allows you to retire products that don't sell well while keeping fans and attendees that might see you at multiple conventions buying. Without this constant flow of work, eventually people run out of things to buy.
Being prepared ahead of time also allows for you to work with inevitable convention delays. While we wish they were all as reliable as the Japan Rail, it's just not the case. It is never a convention's fault that you cannot get your merchandise done in time.
As it is, Kumoricon is doing its best to be accommodating. If the convention date is too close for comfort, or you do not like how the convention is being run, then don't go. If your merchandise would have to be rushed and you might not have the quality you would be proud of, or the quantity you need to run your shop in time for September, then it might be wise to look for another convention farther off. Or plan for next year.
For me, this will be my for me convention. So I may be looking at the small Picture. Thank you, this actually helped me step back and take everything in again. Now I am still worried but not as much as i was. While I am close (across the river close) I am also worried about those that are not as lucky.
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I'm glad it was able to alleviate some of your worries. Try not to worry about other artists traveling further to get there. At this point they should know if attending Kumoricon will be wise financially (and perhaps even mentally, seeing as last minute preps are always very stressful), or if they should look elsewhere or plan for next year instead. In my experience, if they are traveling a considerable distance to attend a convention, it is probably not their only one that year. The less the staff is pressed to expedite procedures, the faster they can get their jobs done, and the sooner we get to apply.
This is not to say that we, as artists wishing to purchase space, should not give them feedback regarding the sign-up process. It is a delay. Perhaps it would be wise, if possible, for Kumoricon to settle legal matters regarding the AA earlier next year. A polite message conveying any stress/inconvenience/displeasure a later sign-up date is always useful to conventions, as it helps them plan better for the following year. Anything else will make them hate their job and is not beneficial to the convention or the artists attending.
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[Please understand that I am not using 'you' in direct reference to anyone in this thread, but in regard to any artist attending AA, including myself]
Personally I am struggling to understand what all of this fuss is about. While I agree that it is ideal to have more time between confirmation of space and the convention itself, delays do happen. Complaining about the delays continuously will not make registration come to us any faster, and Krys has been nothing but polite, patient, and communicative while responding to questions and comments that have been quite disrespectful. There's a level of entitlement in them that is really disappointing, and has given AA's (or rather, the artists who attend them) a bad name at other conventions.
A-kon is a fantastic example of a convention with late notification. According to friends who are tabling in their AA, they JUST got their confirmation last week, and the convention opens May 31st. Kumoricon is trying to give us as much time as possible and we should still have approximately 1 1/2 months to finish prep, secure a place to stay, and secure a way to get there. This is, admittedly, not much time if you are traveling long distance like my table partner and myself are, however if you are local, or driving, this should not be a problem.
Even unconfirmed, it is free to reserve your hotel/hostel or plan to stay with friends in their homes. Hotels will ask for your credit card, but will not charge you, and so long as the room is not cancelled the day before the convention, cancellation is free as well. While I have no way to know if I will be going this year, I do have my room booked, and now I am just waiting to book my bus ticket (which can be purchased as refundable as well, but is often more expensive to do in the long run).
A solution to not rushing the production of merchandise would be preparing before even applying for a convention. Most artists I know work year round to produce new merch. This not only keeps you prepared for last minute convention adventures (I was once informed by a friend that I was tabling with her the DAY before the convention. Let me tell you, that's cutting it close), but keeps your products fresh and your sales booming. It allows you to retire products that don't sell well while keeping fans and attendees that might see you at multiple conventions buying. Without this constant flow of work, eventually people run out of things to buy.
Being prepared ahead of time also allows for you to work with inevitable convention delays. While we wish they were all as reliable as the Japan Rail, it's just not the case. It is never a convention's fault that you cannot get your merchandise done in time.
As it is, Kumoricon is doing its best to be accommodating. If the convention date is too close for comfort, or you do not like how the convention is being run, then don't go. If your merchandise would have to be rushed and you might not have the quality you would be proud of, or the quantity you need to run your shop in time for September, then it might be wise to look for another convention farther off. Or plan for next year.
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A-kon is a fantastic example of a convention with late notification.
WELL, ACTUALLY .... you might not have witnessed the disaster A-kon's late sign ups caused. Lately A-kon has been a great example of a convention that does well in spite of itself.
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It is never a convention's fault that you cannot get your merchandise done in time.
It isn't directly the con's fault and I love Kumoricon and the nice people who run the thing - BUT - I do have to fall on the side of encouraging Kumori to get things together faster next year. There are a lot of reasons why earlier notification would help everyone.
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Do we need to provide anything WITH the application when it is time to send them in? Like a copyright or a business licence? I want to make sure that i have everything ready to go when the application is ready to be filled out.
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Tala-
No, you don't need to provide anything like that.
-Krys
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Okies cool. So, for our products, what should we bring? I mran, since kumoricon is purely a Japanese culture celebration and convention, should my items be focused around that? Or is it okay just to stick with my normal items: Ponies, cupcakes, angry birds, bears, ect.
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Honestly, bring what you enjoy and thinks might sell. Our stuff is all Victorian and Steampunk and does quite well. If you think it's a neato keen item and you think some folks want to buy it, toss it on the table. Tossing in anime/cultural items may not hurt, but it's not a necessity.
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Honestly, bring what you enjoy and thinks might sell. Our stuff is all Victorian and Steampunk and does quite well. If you think it's a neato keen item and you think some folks want to buy it, toss it on the table. Tossing in anime/cultural items may not hurt, but it's not a necessity.
Thank you ^-^ I was fighting with myself to try and include more anime characters, but I don't know if I'll have time. Maybe I'll make one or two but thank you very much ^-^ you've helped me a lot
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Tala-
We allow any and all themes that our artists want to bring in. Whether it's anime related or not. Just as ObiJay said, whatever you're wanting to sell is what you should sell.
-Krys
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Thank you ^-^ I'm super excited to apply for a table now
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So its the first... About that application process....
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Lysenis-
I don't know why there isn't a link up on the Artists Alley page. The webmaster has been informed that it isn't up there, and will hopefully get it up and running soon.
-Krys
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I thought that the application opened at noon? It's not noon yet, there's still another hour before it's supposed to be open anyway?
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Just checked, and it looks like it's up. (^_^)
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Yes, applications are now open, and were opened at noon.
Please remember, this isn't first come, first served, so take your time in submitting an application so you have everything asked for.
-Krys
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Okies, so, I went through and answered all the questions. I don't have any experience from selling before, but I did describe what I would do for my table. In the section underneath that, I included all links to photos of my products. Is that okies?
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Tala-
That's perfect.
-Krys
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I have a question on the additional badges, do they have to be other artists? Or can they be other people who are going to help "man" the table so the artist can attend some of the con events? Also, what is the minimum age for a person who can help with the AA table? My daughter is 13 and wants to help out with the table if I get one, would I just need to buy a regular pass for her because of her age, or can she get an AA badge as well.
Also, I'm not quite sure what you're wanting in regards to description of 6 ft table set up.
Thanks :)
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Can we use Facebook as our website? We use it for the basics like customer questions, product pimping, and spreading the name just not selling (obviously).
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Tygermane-
Anyone that is going to be at your table during the weekend can be given an Artists badge. Whether it's another artists or a friend/family member helping out. Your daughter can help man the booth so long as you are okay with it. She is certainly old enough; and can be given one of the Artists badges as well.
As for the description, what we're asking for is how you're planning on displaying your products. Are you going to have prints in binders sitting on the table? A frame above the table to hang your work? Shelving of some sort? However you plan on showing what you're selling.
Snowshoedtiger-
As long as you have photos of the products you'll be selling, your facebook page works just fine for your website.
-Krys
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Should I get an email confirmation of my application or is it fine that I didn't get one?
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So I'm looking into using pvc pipes for my AA display this year. How big do you guys think they should be? The ones home depot sells are apparently 10ft long (this is what i've seen online i haven't actually visited home depot yet) and I'm planning on getting them cut so I don't have 2ft of pvc pipe sticking out on either end of the table.
I'm also wondering how far off the ground is the top of the table? I'll probably get them cut down height wise as well
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Would it be okies if i submitted my application with a better description on how i would set up my table? I feel like i didn't really describe how i would set up my table fully, since i didn't really know that we were supposed to describe how it was going to be set up.
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blix-
We don't send out any emails until July when we send out acceptance emails.
Kadaashi-
The tables are your basic fold up banquet tables. They sit about 3' up from the ground. As for your display, that's up to you to decide. You have to decide how you're going to be displaying your product, and then figure out what the best setup for that is. Setups always differ from table to table and there really isn't any *right* way to do it.
Tala-
All we need is a basic description so we have an idea of how it's going to look. We don't need anything in detail. So you should be fine.
-Krys
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Oh lol okies good! I've been kinda losing sleep over it cuz i really want to get in and this would be my first time there as an artist, so i really want to make sure everything is in order. ^-^ thank you so very much
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Is there any way to get a confirmation that my application is received? I remember last year a friend of mine applied and never heard back. Asking about the ap later, apparently the ap was never received! Something must have gone wrong. I'm afraid of that happening with my ap. 8(
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Tala-
You're very welcome!
blix-
If you send an email to artists(@)kumoricon(.)org asking if your application was received, then we can check it for you.
-Krys
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yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay my ap is confirmed as existing. X3
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Quick question about sales.
Since this year we will be in WA, should we go through our prices and apply tax? Or is it specially exempted just for us cuz we are special? (heres to hoping lol)
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Tala-
You are required to include the sales tax in your final sales. But what most artists do is leave prices the same and calculate out the final amount the sales taxes would be at the end of the weekend from the regular price. Please let me know if that doesn't make any sense. :)
-Krys
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It does kinda make sense actually lol thank you ^-^ When will we know if we've been accepted into AA? Are we still looking at the beginning of July?
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I have another question on the application. So, if we are going to have helpers at the table, who are not artists selling their own art/crafts, do we still select yes to the question "Are you the leader of a group of artists?" I'm not the leader of a group of artists, but I do have a few friends who are going to help me out so I can attend various events at the convention. Or do I select no and purchase additional badges later. And I haven't heard back from two people and I'm worried that they won't get back to me before the application deadline, even if I don't include their name in the application, can I still purchase badges for them after the application has been submitted? (Provided I am accepted)
I hope this question isn't confusing.
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Tala-
Once registration is closed for AA, we'll start looking at them right away. Mid July should be when we let everyone know.
Tygermane-
No, the leader of a group is only for when there is more than one artist selling at a single table. If it's just friends helping, then you don't check that. If you need more than the number of badges provided with the table, you'll have to purchase up to 3 more at the discounted price.
-Krys
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Tala-
Once registration is closed for AA, we'll start looking at them right away. Mid July should be when we let everyone know.
Oh yay ^-^ When does registration close then? And, if you don't mind me asking, how many submissions have their been so far? Im wondering if I have a good chance to get in lol
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Tala: registration closes on the 30th of this month ~
Hieis: For the application helpers don't need to be listed right? Just artists for now and then if we get in we'll fill out info for helpers right?
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Tala-
What YUme said, at the end of the month. And I don't know how many submissions we have yet. I haven't looked since they opened.
YUme-
Helpers do not need to be listed. The only person besides yourself that should be listed are other artists that will be selling at your table with you. We will ask for information about your helpers if and when you've been accepted into Artists Alley.
-Krys
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Awesome! Thank you so much!! Now I'm off to put in my application!! ;D
So, do you guys wait until the sign-ups are closed before you start looking at applications, or are you already looking at them? (sorry, just curious how the process works)
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Thanks Krys!
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Tygermane-
We wait until sign ups are closed. That way we look at all of them at the same time.
-Krys
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So, i know I'm being impatient, but could we maybe have an update on how close you guys are to announcing the Artist Alley list?
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I'm dying to know the same thing! ;D
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They said that it should be up by the 20th if this month so it shouldnt be too long...but they might be a bit late like last year because of life LOL
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eh, only a few more days till the 20th ... and to be perfectly fair I can't even imagine going through the hundreds of submissions I'm sure they got, trying to make sure everyone is within Kumoricon guidelines *and* would be a good fit. I would lose my mind if I had to do that. But Jen and Krys put together (and run) an excellent AA every year. Major props to them :)
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im fine with waiting till the 20th so that way i know they have time to actually look at everyones different products. maybe even a few times before deciding. it gives us all a better chance ;D
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Jen and I are meeting today to go through applications and make rough decisions. We'll let everyone know asap what's going on!
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Alright. Jen and I had a productive meeting today! The most important thing is that emails will start coming out on the 20th and will go through the weekend. If you don't receive an email from us, check with your group leader if you're in a group and/or email us so we can let you know what happened with your application.
-Krys
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I am going to die from the wait. . .
If we get in, when is the money required?
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Does that mean that you'll get an email even if you don't get in QvQ?
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When are you guys sending out the emails or have they been sent out already?
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Lysenis-
That will be addressed in the email if you are accepted into AA. And we are sending them out throughout the weekend. As I have said before, please be patient. We have lives outside of Kumoricon that take precedence. We're in the process of sending them out and will have them all sent out by the 23rd like mentioned earlier.
YUme-
Yes, everyone who applied will get an email.
-Krys
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So it will be like badges then, some now, some tomorrow, some later?
Thank you for letting us know.
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I'm so nervous! I will be checking my email constantly until the 23rd!
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I'm so nervous! I will be checking my email constantly until the 23rd!
I am the same way. . .
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I'm a little concerned that this process has taken so long...
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I'm a little concerned that this process has taken so long...
Yea. . . This is my whole point.
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;__; this forum needs a big group hug. CLING TOGETHER AND FEEL BETTER. ;__________;
Aaaah my luck with cons this year has just been terrible. The sinking feeling in my stomach is permanent, why worry...
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I could use a big giant hug, and a big giant group of Minions to help me get my products done lol
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I got 3 minions but they dont have the skill to do my work
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Jen - Thank you for letting me know!
amg you guys have minions LOL IF THEY CAN'T HELP WITH PRINTS MAKE THEM GET YOU FOOD
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I dont do prints, i do chain maille.
They man the table, get food and let me take breaks
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FFF well that's good you can take breaks.
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If i had minions i wouldn't have to worry about my hands being dead. With the amount of work I'm doing to hopefully sell just the least amount of dolls, I'm going to have to wear my wrist braces all three days of kumo. Which sucks.
Quick question for everyone really. If you have a wifi connection, would you be willing to allow some members of AA to use it while we're all in there? My boyfriend is happily joining me in manning my table if i get one, and he isn't much of a happy person around people. So if he has wifi then he can just sit back and watch tv while i do my thing.
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I hope we have WiFi. . . OR I will have to do credit card transactions on my phone instead of my tablet. . .
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I know the hotels have wifi for guests, but I don't know if they have free wifi for everyone else.
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Let us hope. . .
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I have said this many times, and I will say it again. We are working at the same speed we did last year. Even with the delay that came up the other day, we are still on par with last year's schedule. And, if any of you visited AA or heard feedback from the artists, it went perfectly fine. Everyone got their stuff ready on time and registered, and those turned away still got badges for the convention.
Again, please be patient with us and let us do our jobs that we are fully capable of doing.
And once more, if you don't receive an email from Jen or myself by the 23rd, please email us. Until then, please be patient.
Thank you.
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I'd like to thank the people in charge of AA for their efforts; I suspect there was very, very many applicants and going through all of them is super tough. (:
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chocuu-
Thank you, we appreciate it very much.
-Krys
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I have a question about the application after process. If my business name has been changed after the application has been submitted, is it possible to change the name that you guys have on the application?
Like i know you can't change it on the actual application, but maybe make a note that the name has been changed so its the new one on the booth listing, not the old one.
If not, its okies, I'm just wondering if I should wait til after to change my name.
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I'm still amazed that only two of you are going through this whole process. I commend you on your efforts and I hope that you guys aren't going too crazy with your real lives and this... Thank you so much for everything you guys are doing!
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I got my emai today, sadly, I was not accepted, but I would still like to stay thank you for considering me and hopefully I will have better luck next year! Still can't wait to attend the con though!
On a happier note, I did get into AKI cons AA! So super excited about that!
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Congrats to those that made it!
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Tala-
Yes, it's possible to do so. Just email us and let us know what your old business name was and what it's been changed to and we'll make sure it's correct in whatever it's going to be printed in.
Loonstar- Until last year, Jen was doing it on her own. AA staff has never been that big. It's still a challenge at times, but we get it all done in time! And thank you to everyone for being patient with us
-Krys
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doesn't matter anymore now does it? since i didn't get in, what's the point
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Will the waiting list be posted somewhere?
and there was another artist that was gonna join my application group should I send a revised application (just in case if we move from the waiting list)?
and thank you for always answering all our questions QvQ.
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doesn't matter anymore now does it? since i didn't get in, what's the point
dont worry sweetie i didnt make it in either... -_-; *hugs*
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Neither did I it seems, guess being one if not only chain maille artisian was good enough for this. . . Hmmmmmmmmmmmm now what to do with $400 of materials
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Who do I contact if I never received an email?
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Just curious, how many tables are there this year? Thanks. :)
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I would like to know about requesting a power strip/outlet for our booth - is this possible? If so, will there be an extra charge? I thought I saw some info about it somewhere, but can't find it now. Thank you!
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Who do I contact if I never received an email?
Please contact artists@kumoricon.org if you have not received a notification.
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YUme-
We will not be posting the waiting list. It is just a personal reference for Jen and myself.
You are not allowed to add new artists to your table after applications have been approved or denied, unfortunately. We have this rule because otherwise people who were denied will try to get in on someone else's table that got accepted, and that can be considered a slap in the face to everyone else who didn't get in.
elisetrinh-
We have 30 confirmed tables right now. Once layouts are 100% confirmed, there may be more added. Which is where we will be contacting artists on our waitlist.
Rei-
When you do the registration through the link Jen sent out, there should be a place for requests such as power outlet usage and other things. There shouldn't be an extra charge for using one, but I will have to confirm with Jen on that to be sure.
-Krys
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Did something change? Was just at the AA and I don't think there were 30 booths. . . . I could be wrong but unless you count many booths having 3+ tables. . .
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The artists list is online here:
https://www.kumoricon.org/artists-alley
I walked around this afternoon and did count at least 30 unique booths.