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So, for all of you wondering out there what a good way to bind is well, here you go:
So, I've recently started binding and I've found a pretty effective way: a compression shirt from underworks. I specifically got the tri-top one and it works wonders.
Now, if you're on a budget then ace bandages will work fine as long as you put it on correctly and not too tight. (They've been known to crack ribs.)
There is also the option of a waist cincher corset but they tend to stretch a little bit after a few uses.
And if that's too pricey just go find my post in the tutorial thread, there's a tutorial there to make a home-made binding. But that will take a couple bucks out of your pocket as well.
And never use any kind of tape or anything sticky. The only time to use this is with open shirt binding and even then just use masking tape with paper or cloth to protect your nipple.
If you have anything to add or any questions feel free to comment.
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I've had a ton of experience with binding, since I primarily do male cosplays. Now of course, it depends on what size of cup are you. If it's a larger cup, you're gunna have a harder time binding. I'm between a B and a C, and I use a combination of techniques that work very well for me. :3
First, under everything, wear a sports bra. It's a great base for binding. Then I suggest buying a compression shirt; doesn't have to be an expensive one. Hell, I've even seen them at the thrift store. Just make sure it's the right size; it's MEANT to be tight.
But the main thing that helps the binding is a waist trimmer. I buy mine at walmart for 5 bucks.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Gold-s-Gym-Waist-Trimmer-Belt/12167842
They're meant for your waist obviously, but you can wrap them around your chest somewhat tight over everything else, and it REALLY helps. If you do this, you have to make sure it's not TOO tight, because your ribs can get extremely sore after a while. But since it's meant for your waist, it's easy to move in, and it's somewhat breathable, and nice and stretchy. :3 Also, it's rubbery on the back so it doesn't slip too much. It's very useful. ^^ Hope this helps!
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Depends on how large your... 'tracts of land' are.
I use a method most people say never to use, but that's because I have the thickest most non-adhesive skin in the world. You could try a waist cincher or sports tape.
NEVER USE ACE BANDAGES. They can break your ribs. I used to use them and I was in constant pain all the time.
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Well, I have a B cup so I'm pretty sure I won't have much of a problem.
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Then just use VampireFang's method. Mine are small as well, so I find a small sportsbra and the clencher is as good as anything ^^
And also a hint, wear looser clothing!
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Thanks guys!!
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Chan agrees with the bra/shirt combo, as well as bondage tape that's non-adhesive to the skin. That also works for other areas, too.
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Use a compression shirt. Seriously. They're the most comfortable thing ever and they work so well, and they're not as painful as other types of binding. And you can actually breathe!
They're designed to be worn daily, after all. There's various places you can buy them from. :3
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.....LOL i use ace bandages ;;
it hurts after a while , but the only way i have to keep them puppies down
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^ Like I said, try a compression shirt. There's people with G cups who have become almost totally flat.
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^ They may seem expensive, most being around $30-40, but they're sooooo worth it! They last forever and work wonders *o*
I'm planning on getting one soon >w<
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Thank you all!!!
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can you buy compression shirts at stores? D;
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Use a compression shirt. Seriously. They're the most comfortable thing ever and they work so well, and they're not as painful as other types of binding. And you can actually breathe!
They're designed to be worn daily, after all. There's various places you can buy them from. :3
THIS.
I have one I got from T-kingdom and I am thinking about getting a new one from underworks since everyone says they work better.
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@CLAP - You can get them at Wal-Mart.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Riddell-Under-Pad-Shirt-Compression-Sleeveless-Youth/13081260
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Use a compression shirt. Seriously. They're the most comfortable thing ever and they work so well, and they're not as painful as other types of binding. And you can actually breathe!
They're designed to be worn daily, after all. There's various places you can buy them from. :3
THIS.
I have one I got from T-kingdom and I am thinking about getting a new one from underworks since everyone says they work better.
I think the one I have is from Underworks. I've heard that T-kingdom works best if you already have small boobs.
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does it work ? o:
D; otherwise i'll just ace bandage myself lol
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^ Of course it works. That's why I suggested it. As I mentioned before, I've seen it turn G cups into nearly flat chests.
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I am thinking about getting the tri-top one. its 29.99 plus 6.75 for shipping. I may pay a little more and have it shipped here in two days. The t-kingdom one is great because it feels so comfortable but it doesn't get me as flat as I would like.
Sorry, Just bought the tri-top. It was 42 for two day shipping. I payed something like that for normal shipping at t-kingdom
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I am thinking about getting the tri-top one. its 29.99 plus 6.75 for shipping. I may pay a little more and have it shipped here in two days. The t-kingdom one is great because it feels so comfortable but it doesn't get me as flat as I would like.
I just bought the tri-top one...well, I bought 2. 1 for me and 1 for my friend.
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I am thinking about getting the tri-top one. its 29.99 plus 6.75 for shipping. I may pay a little more and have it shipped here in two days. The t-kingdom one is great because it feels so comfortable but it doesn't get me as flat as I would like.
I just bought the tri-top one...well, I bought 2. 1 for me and 1 for my friend.
Everyone I have talked to says that it is the best for getting you flat on that site. I'll pull up the topic on coscom. I also just got mine
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http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=15709
http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=237119
Both topics give good advice on binding. One is more support for the tri-top though XD
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i believe youu , i meant what Washougal_Otaku suggested
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i believe youu , i meant what Washougal_Otaku suggested
I got a shirt like that at a store and it works kinda well but not nearly as well as the binder I have done. I often times use both of them to get really flat. If you are very small then it might work well enough (and by very small I mean A maybe B)
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http://transguys.com/features/chest-binding
This is an article that I found helpful. It also lists a bunch of different binder dealers. There are more options than you'd expect.
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I use sport bra and ace banage due to the sport bra is a size smaller then my own. it helps adn the ace I use is lose enough were it dosent hurt. it helps with pressing them down alittle more.
Duck tape IS A NO NO!!! i broke 2 ribs due to ducktape the frist itme i ever bind myself. I was a B cup like you. trust me not worth it
and since you are a B id use a sport bra. thats smaller. then your breast size
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So, guys, I know this is old but my Underworks shirt came!
Pics soon!
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk267%2Fchesire_kitten%2Fth_beforeafter.jpg&hash=9138158c73fa70869310d53431537e873d1515d7) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k267/chesire_kitten/beforeafter.jpg)
(click for bigger)
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I get the same results but I basically have to use both of them since I have D size breasts x.x
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does it work ? o:
I'm not sure. I don't have to worry about it, myself, since I'm male. I just found it mentioned earlier in this thread & thought I'd help find it. Personally, I only see it being effective on smaller chests.
^ Of course it works. That's why I suggested it. As I mentioned before, I've seen it turn G cups into nearly flat chests.
Now THAT'S impressive!
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Duck tape IS A NO NO!!! i broke 2 ribs due to ducktape the frist itme i ever bind myself. I was a B cup like you. trust me not worth it
Were you doing it right? I don't mean to pretend to be an expert, but I'm a DD cup and I duct tape almost every day, and nothing has ever happened to me. It also depends on what kind of duct tape you use, how you take it off, how tight it is, and how well you guard the necessary objects.
For taking it off, I just showered with it on, and then rubbed baby oil everywhere in that area, it worked like a dream.
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Anyone know if sports bra plus ace bandage work as well and stay put?
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They work but they're not good for you. Ace bandages can break ribs if not worn correctly.
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Is there any way to wear them correctly? I cant find any big ace bandages to make a shirt to help..
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it prooobably isn't the best way but I usually use a sports bra and tape...
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Well, Clap, how large are your breasts?
Su Lu, If you're kinda tight on money but you have time try this: http://blender-madness.deviantart.com/favourites/43647156#/d3d689g
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Is there any way to wear them correctly? I cant find any big ace bandages to make a shirt to help..
The best way is to have someone experienced physically teach you how; sometimes verbally explaining things aren't helpful.
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Well, Clap, how large are your breasts?
Su Lu, If you're kinda tight on money but you have time try this: http://blender-madness.deviantart.com/favourites/43647156#/d3d689g
d's .. Lol
I used ace bandages last year and they worked fine besides shifting under the breast
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Once again, I stress the waist trimmer. You use it the same way as the ace bandages, but it's made for that purpose (kind of), so it's easier on your ribs and body. And you don't have to worry about it shifting much. AND you can get one for 5 bucks. It's seriously a great investment.
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Once again, I stress the waist trimmer. You use it the same way as the ace bandages, but it's made for that purpose (kind of), so it's easier on your ribs and body. And you don't have to worry about it shifting much. AND you can get one for 5 bucks. It's seriously a great investment.
My mom has a full body one i think .. Acts like a bra too and keeps in dem' curves
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I got a 9" waist trimmer from Underworks. 9" is a bit too long for me cause I'm petite, but they do have a 6" available. And after trying it, I think it's a good investment. It and my shirt I got from them, both are worth the money. And it's better than having to keep buying ACE bandages or other things that don't work as well, or take more money over a period of time. Just shell out the 50$ if you can all at once, and it should last you :)
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Is there any way to wear them correctly? I cant find any big ace bandages to make a shirt to help..
The best way is to have someone experienced physically teach you how; sometimes verbally explaining things aren't helpful.
I try to host a crossplay panel every year so we can explain and demonstrate the various options for binding depending on size. Generally for those up to C cup size, the sports bra and 6-8 inch wide ace bandages can work well if done correctly & not over compressed.
A compression shirt is one of the best ways for those who think they will be doing alot of crossplay, will be wearing it for many hours and want to make the investment.
I'm currently working on updating the presentation for Kumoricon and will be bringing some examples of what you can use safely.
Cheers,
Kato
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Ive decided I want to buy a compression shirt for the sake of my poor chest , and the better image it will give my crossplaying.
xD
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Ive decided I want to buy a compression shirt for the sake of my poor chest , and the better image it will give my crossplaying.
xD
Good choice. Your body will thank you and you'll notice you're able to wear your crossplay longer too.
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Never use anything adhesive. EVER. Not duct tape, not athletic tape, not sticky-sided Ace bandages, nothing.
I speak from experience. I used to tape, and I thought it was a great, cheap way to turn my D cups into a respectable "chest"...and then came the inevitable day when I left the tape on just a little too long and got just a little too strenuous with my physical activity. The skin under the human breast is the thinnest on the body, and patches of mine came off. The marks took months to go away.
Please, whatever options you guys end up going with, don't be dumb like me. Stay away from the sticky stuff. XD;
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Please, whatever options you guys end up going with, don't be dumb like me. Stay away from the sticky stuff. XD;
Safety is a large part of why we developed an in depth Crossplay Panel presentation. You're example is exactly why.
I haven't heard whether our panel submission form was accepted yet but if it is we will be at Kumori with our presentation.
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I'd used a 6in ace bandage to bind every other day or so for about half a year, and only had problems the first time I wore it since I wrapped it too tight. After you have it for a few months it isn't as safe to use since the elastic wears and breaks, so you end up wrapping it tighter to achieve the same result. When it starts doing that, throw it away and buy a new one. (Compression shirts, too, lose their compression ability over time, but it takes longer, so I'll be getting one soon for convenience's sake)
I think it's an okay method if you're pretty small; if it's uncomfortable or itchy at all, you're either wearing it too tight, or it probably isn't safe for you to use.
For open-chest binding, be careful using any brand other than ace. My friend used rite-aid brand and it peeled her skin off, and I used johnson&johnson (I think?) on top of ace since I was almost out, and in the small places where it touched my skin it hurt a lot for a few days after the con.
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soo , underworks has great priced compression shirts.
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what do I get ? D: what one will work ?
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soo , underworks has great priced compression shirts.
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what do I get ? D: what one will work ?
I got the tri-top one and it works amazing.
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What if you happen to only be trying to bind DOWN, but not entirely eliminate your breasts?
I'm naturally a C-cup on a fairly slim athletic frame, so I am really large in the breast area. I'm going to cosplay Haruhi Fujioka this year, with her simple little A-cup that is for the most part hidden beneath her blazer. My friend has recommended just wearing two sports bras since it makes her B-cups completely invisible. I really don't want to spend much money on anything I get, since I'm not a crossplayer, and usually do the bigger breasted characters (which are SO hard to find in anime ::) ) So what would y'all reccomend to make my boobs smaller, without completely making them invisible?
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What if you happen to only be trying to bind DOWN, but not entirely eliminate your breasts?
I'm naturally a C-cup on a fairly slim athletic frame, so I am really large in the breast area. I'm going to cosplay Haruhi Fujioka this year, with her simple little A-cup that is for the most part hidden beneath her blazer. My friend has recommended just wearing two sports bras since it makes her B-cups completely invisible. I really don't want to spend much money on anything I get, since I'm not a crossplayer, and usually do the bigger breasted characters (which are SO hard to find in anime ::) ) So what would y'all reccomend to make my boobs smaller, without completely making them invisible?
You could try taking them down but that could deform them if not done properly. Another option is to just use ace bandages but don't tighten it all of the way.
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What if you happen to only be trying to bind DOWN, but not entirely eliminate your breasts?
I'm naturally a C-cup on a fairly slim athletic frame, so I am really large in the breast area. I'm going to cosplay Haruhi Fujioka this year, with her simple little A-cup that is for the most part hidden beneath her blazer. My friend has recommended just wearing two sports bras since it makes her B-cups completely invisible. I really don't want to spend much money on anything I get, since I'm not a crossplayer, and usually do the bigger breasted characters (which are SO hard to find in anime ::) ) So what would y'all reccomend to make my boobs smaller, without completely making them invisible?
You could try taking them down but that could deform them if not done properly. Another option is to just use ace bandages but don't tighten it all of the way.
Indeed, if not done correctly you can hurt yourself. Haruhi Fujioka's a great character and a good one because you're just after a minimized look. A sports bra is a very good way to do this and not too expensive. Try some on that have your correct band size but go for a B cup and see how that feels. Make sure you can breathe and move well.
If you want a further reduction you can use the wide ace bandage over the top of it but as stated earler, don't over compress it. I've helped alot of my friends do it this way and with practice it works well.
Ja ne,
Kato
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You could try taking them down but that could deform them if not done properly. Another option is to just use ace bandages but don't tighten it all of the way.
Just stepping in here to repeat myself - never, ever tape down your breasts with anything sticky. It won't necessarily deform them, but it's very easy to cause internal damage, breathing problems, or tear off bits of your own delicate skin. (I have inadvertently made myself suffer through all of the above, so trust me on this.)
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^ trust her . I use to bind with duck tape over and old sports bra and I ended up passing out becuse they were to tight. Also ace is okay but not always a good choice with people who are bigger then a atlest a B small C. I m a C so i m pretty small. and binding isent a big thing normally a smaller sports bra helps with that becuse its tighter around and snug a good choice for something cheep is useing a back brace.< also ace banage those work really well ^^
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I've been doing ace bandages for the last two years, I've never had any problems with it but I'm glad people put up the links for the compression shirts. My only question is that I noticed the size on the Riddell product was a youth size- is that as a compensation for the product normally being used by men? I'm just worried about getting it too small.
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@Halycon
I'm not too sure about Riddell but with Underworks I got a size medium in the tri-top style and I have Bs and it works amazing. I'm sure medium would also work for small Cs. The tri-top costs a little over $30 including shipping.
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I fully take to heart all the horror stories about losing skin to tape adhesives and not being able to breathe because the tape doesn't give like fabric binding methods. AND I wholy endorse compression shirts.
BUT there is a way to safely bind with tape. First put on your tight sports bra, then cover the entire area where you're putting tape with ATHLETIC FOAM TAPE or UNDERTAPE. This stuff is awesome, it is made to go under your athletic/medical tape so you don't chaffe or remove skin and it only sticks to itself and fabric. And you can find it right next to the athletic tape.
Then you can use athletic/medical fabric tape to bind. BUT make sure not to bind to tight, make sure you can still breathe comfortably.
I did this for a presentation for a theater class where I playing a male character, applied it in the morning before class and wore it all day before taking pictures. I also only had about 2/3 of the tape that I usually use, I like to tape alittle higher up, to smooth out the effect.
seen at: http://wildmage007.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=120#/d1ga1d1
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I fully take to heart all the horror stories about losing skin to tape adhesives and not being able to breathe because the tape doesn't give like fabric binding methods. AND I wholy endorse compression shirts.
BUT there is a way to safely bind with tape. First put on your tight sports bra, then cover the entire area where you're putting tape with ATHLETIC FOAM TAPE or UNDERTAPE. This stuff is awesome, it is made to go under your athletic/medical tape so you don't chaffe or remove skin and it only sticks to itself and fabric. And you can find it right next to the athletic tape.
Then you can use athletic/medical fabric tape to bind. BUT make sure not to bind to tight, make sure you can still breathe comfortably.
I did this for a presentation for a theater class where I playing a male character, applied it in the morning before class and wore it all day before taking pictures. I also only had about 2/3 of the tape that I usually use, I like to tape alittle higher up, to smooth out the effect.
seen at: http://wildmage007.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=120#/d1ga1d1
Indeed that's a superb binding example. Would you mind if I used it in my Crossplay Panel slide show?
Cheers!
Kato
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Indeed that's a superb binding example. Would you mind if I used it in my Crossplay Panel slide show?
Cheers!
Kato
Sure, I can even bring an example of the foam tape if you'd like, I have a roll that doesn't have enough to do a full wrap.
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Indeed that's a superb binding example. Would you mind if I used it in my Crossplay Panel slide show?
Cheers!
Kato
Sure, I can even bring an example of the foam tape if you'd like, I have a roll that doesn't have enough to do a full wrap.
Excellent!, yes that would be great.
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Like many others here, I definitely recommend a Compression shirt/vest... they work wonders, and are fairly comfortable ... you don;t even really notice them once they're on.
The First Time I did an binding, I used a sports bra that was too small, then tensor banadages over top, and then finally Hockey Tape over that (I'm a D-cup, so binding can be difficult)... it worked... but my ribs were so incredibly sore afterwards, and it was hard to breath, not to mention it was a pain in the ass to get out off when all was said and done ... and then I discovered Compressions Shirts, and they are seriously awesome and so comfortable, plus they work great!
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This information helps a lot! I have to go from a DD to nothing for one of my cosplays. :D
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This is so helpful thank you everyone :3
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the real question here is--
how do male people bind?? XDDDD
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urhurhurhur
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the real question here is--
how do male people bind?? XDDDD
That also is what we cover in the Crossplay 101 panel. I've been crossplaying female characters for a very long time and my co-panelests have too. We have alot of tips and options for both guy to girl and girl to guy cosplays.
Cheers!
Kato ~ Crossplay Society host
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oh wow i never knew there's such a crossplay society here O___O
i crossplayed once- was forced tho... coz the fact that people just keep on mistakening me as a girl atleast once a week-- that including my friends =.=
that was their justification on me crossplaying
it was kinda fun tho XD
but if i were to crossplay again- i want an all out crossplay not a half assed one like back then
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Crossplaying as great, I'd almost always rather cosplay a boy now
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crossplaying is fun- its just that there's a gender biased on the eyes of the viewers on that...
they would think that:
girls who crossplay are cool while guys... yeah...
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I think it's great when a guy crossplays! show confidence and guts :D you shouldn't let what others think bother, if you want to cross play, do it! :3
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yes, but to play the part is hard XD
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I think it's great when a guy crossplays! show confidence and guts :D you shouldn't let what others think bother, if you want to cross play, do it! :3
Thank you, that's a very nice compliment to crossplayers and very well said. 8)
yes, but to play the part is hard XD
And that's why I teach a panel. To not only show what can be done but to also see what you can do when you take it seriously and do your best.
Cheers!
Kato
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oh i've seen what they can do XDDD
thus i find it fun to watch crossplayers
hopefully i get the guts to do one again in due time...
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I believe in you! :D
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Okay, so I've been using ACE bandages to bind, and they haven't worked the best for me. (Probably because I'm a shitty binder.)
I have a bit left in my cosplay budget, and seeing as I've already bought 90% of my materials, it'd probably be fine to use some of it on a compression shirt!
But I'm not sure which one to buy, and I'm sort of a little nervous to buy one ww
I don't know which one to get. I want to go from a C cup to 100% flat.
Which one should I get? What size? Everything's so confusing and asdfghjkl, and advice would just be so appreciated, you have no idea.
Do the tanks only smooth down the chest and stomach, or do they smooth down the hips and rear too?
If they're long enough to smooth down my hips/butt a bit, that'd be fantastic, since I have the whole breasts-hips-ass-thighs feminine figure. But I'm also 5'8", so even if the tank is long enough to smooth down the hips/rear of some girls might not be long enough for me.
Is Underworks the best option, or are others said to work better?
Uh, sorry for all of the questions. I just want to make sure I buy the right thing, asdfghjkl-
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Okay, so I've been using ACE bandages to bind, and they haven't worked the best for me. (Probably because I'm a shitty binder.)
I have a bit left in my cosplay budget, and seeing as I've already bought 90% of my materials, it'd probably be fine to use some of it on a compression shirt!
But I'm not sure which one to buy, and I'm sort of a little nervous to buy one ww
I don't know which one to get. I want to go from a C cup to 100% flat.
Which one should I get? What size? Everything's so confusing and asdfghjkl, and advice would just be so appreciated, you have no idea.
Do the tanks only smooth down the chest and stomach, or do they smooth down the hips and rear too?
If they're long enough to smooth down my hips/butt a bit, that'd be fantastic, since I have the whole breasts-hips-ass-thighs feminine figure. But I'm also 5'8", so even if the tank is long enough to smooth down the hips/rear of some girls might not be long enough for me.
Is Underworks the best option, or are others said to work better?
Uh, sorry for all of the questions. I just want to make sure I buy the right thing, asdfghjkl-
Just want to say that while it's possible to give the illusion of being close to 100% flat in reality its not quite possible which is ok because if you look at guy chests they're not totally flat either so your real goal is to mimic that with a combination of compression shirt and middle padding - shoulder padding to reduce the feminine hip effect.
Underworks is a very good product and alot of my friends with larger chests use them in combination with the ace bandages.
Ja ne,
Kato
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Okay, so I've been using ACE bandages to bind, and they haven't worked the best for me. (Probably because I'm a shitty binder.)
I have a bit left in my cosplay budget, and seeing as I've already bought 90% of my materials, it'd probably be fine to use some of it on a compression shirt!
But I'm not sure which one to buy, and I'm sort of a little nervous to buy one ww
I don't know which one to get. I want to go from a C cup to 100% flat.
Which one should I get? What size? Everything's so confusing and asdfghjkl, and advice would just be so appreciated, you have no idea.
Do the tanks only smooth down the chest and stomach, or do they smooth down the hips and rear too?
If they're long enough to smooth down my hips/butt a bit, that'd be fantastic, since I have the whole breasts-hips-ass-thighs feminine figure. But I'm also 5'8", so even if the tank is long enough to smooth down the hips/rear of some girls might not be long enough for me.
Is Underworks the best option, or are others said to work better?
Uh, sorry for all of the questions. I just want to make sure I buy the right thing, asdfghjkl-
The best way to get rid of the hips is to add tummy/middle padding.
And Underworks, in my opinion, is a good investment. They last long and work great. I got the tri-top but I'm sure any of them would be good. On the Underworks website, with each item they have what measurements would work best for what sizes.
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When you bought your binders from Underworks, did you get a bigger size than your measurements? I just received my tri-top today and I bought it a size larger and it wouldn't even fit over my shoulders.
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When you bought your binders from Underworks, did you get a bigger size than your measurements? I just received my tri-top today and I bought it a size larger and it wouldn't even fit over my shoulders.
I have trouble putting mine on also but it's supposed to be tight. When I get too tired to put it over my shoulders I just slip it around my waist and pull it up.
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Well...never thought I'd find myself here...but yes.
I don't need to bind my chest, but I do need to bind my gut. I have looked through Underworks, and they seem to have some nice waist-pieces (I can't wear a shirt because the costume has an open chest but the waist is covered, so I just need to bind up my gut). Other than Underworks, anyone have suggestions for a male binding this other abdominal region?
Thanks in advance. ^_^
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Well...never thought I'd find myself here...but yes.
I don't need to bind my chest, but I do need to bind my gut. I have looked through Underworks, and they seem to have some nice waist-pieces (I can't wear a shirt because the costume has an open chest but the waist is covered, so I just need to bind up my gut). Other than Underworks, anyone have suggestions for a male binding this other abdominal region?
Thanks in advance. ^_^
You could try a waist-trimmer.
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When you bought your binders from Underworks, did you get a bigger size than your measurements? I just received my tri-top today and I bought it a size larger and it wouldn't even fit over my shoulders.
I have trouble putting mine on also but it's supposed to be tight. When I get too tired to put it over my shoulders I just slip it around my waist and pull it up.
I understand it's supposed to be tight, but there's certainly a problem if it won't even fit over my shoulders... I tried stepping into it, but it won't fit over my hips. /sigh
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Well...never thought I'd find myself here...but yes.
I don't need to bind my chest, but I do need to bind my gut. I have looked through Underworks, and they seem to have some nice waist-pieces (I can't wear a shirt because the costume has an open chest but the waist is covered, so I just need to bind up my gut). Other than Underworks, anyone have suggestions for a male binding this other abdominal region?
Thanks in advance. ^_^
yeah I would suggest a back brace, like people wear when weight lifting. Some of us ladies use them to bind our chests, but they are made to bind the gut/midriff region.
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Awesome. Thank you very much, you two. ^_^
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I bought the medium Tri-Top from Underworks.
I'm really crossing my fingers here. I get sort of jittery over the dumbest stuff.
I'll post pictures after it comes in the mail, in case anyone wants to see the results.
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Anyone know if sports bra plus ace bandage work as well and stay put?
I use a sports bra with ace bandages and then a compression shirt over top. I have a few ace bandages that are wider, and in my experience you need to keep the pressure even when you wrap, and keep the bandages as flat as possible. It can be really useful to have someone else help you do this the first few times.
I tend to wrap from my collar bone down to my stomach, as well as over each shoulder to even out the stress being put on my chest. This also helps keep the bandages in place. I fasten them with normal safety pins, and usually everything stays in place for most of the day. I've slept with my binding like this before and only had to adjust a bit afterwards. Mostly wrapping like this is stressful on my shoulder blades after long periods of time. If you are going to bind this way, you need to try it out a few times around the house so you can find the most comfortable way to wrap for you.
I'm a D cup, and I've managed fairly good results with this method. But it does take some getting used to and practice.
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ths is embarresing for me... i have a hell alot of trouble binding, im fairly good at. i have a waist trimmer and sports bra. but if theres anything else that will help bring.... the double of the 4th letter of the alphabet down more please help!
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ths is embarresing for me... i have a hell alot of trouble binding, im fairly good at. i have a waist trimmer and sports bra. but if theres anything else that will help bring.... the double of the 4th letter of the alphabet down more please help!
Sounds like you're doing the right things. Remember tho that guys are not washboard flat (unless child like/very young) They have pecs so you only need to reduce the curves and minimize as much as possible.
With that said depending on how large you are there will only be so much you can do before you hurt yourself and we all want to avoid that. So just remember, overall shape for guy characters is wider shoulders, narrow hips and muscular chest for in shape characters.
Minimizing you curves will be enough to be convincing.
Oh and our Crossplay 101+ panel is on for Sunday at 12:30 I believe. We have lots of tip that might help too.
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I made my binder! I just made it and it works well i used a streachy material and made a shirt that was smaller then my ownsize works wonders
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ths is embarresing for me... i have a hell alot of trouble binding, im fairly good at. i have a waist trimmer and sports bra. but if theres anything else that will help bring.... the double of the 4th letter of the alphabet down more please help!
Sounds like you're doing the right things. Remember tho that guys are not washboard flat (unless child like/very young) They have pecs so you only need to reduce the curves and minimize as much as possible.
With that said depending on how large you are there will only be so much you can do before you hurt yourself and we all want to avoid that. So just remember, overall shape for guy characters is wider shoulders, narrow hips and muscular chest for in shape characters.
Minimizing you curves will be enough to be convincing.
Oh and our Crossplay 101+ panel is on for Sunday at 12:30 I believe. We have lots of tip that might help too.
These are great tips. I'll be attending the panel for sure!
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These are great tips. I'll be attending the panel for sure!
Excellent! See ya there, and don't be afraid to ask lots of questions ne :D
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I might come, i'm curious!
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I might come, i'm curious!
Excellent, Our panel is for the curious as well as the experienced. ;)
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i dont know if this would be off topic or not, kinda find it funny. me and Zoki wen to sears to find waist sinchers. we were there for like an hour and and half seeing if they would work. they have some pretty good ones down there that are great. the highest price i saw was just around 20 $ or so. and they worked pretty well. but the half hour we spent trying to put them was just funny .
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i dont know if this would be off topic or not, kinda find it funny. me and Zoki wen to sears to find waist sinchers. we were there for like an hour and and half seeing if they would work. they have some pretty good ones down there that are great. the highest price i saw was just around 20 $ or so. and they worked pretty well. but the half hour we spent trying to put them was just funny .
I did the same thing at Walmart...my advice is look in other department...the back braces in the 1st aid dept were $5-$10 more than the ones in the workout and hardware departments.
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SO , i think i'm going to buy a compression shirt from underworks since its the only thing I can afford. ;;
D: I'm a 40 D and want something simple to do the job . D;
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^ Like I said, try a compression shirt. There's people with G cups who have become almost totally flat.
You're KIDDING.... I've found it nearly impossible to make myself "Flat". .... I'll have to look into one of those. Where does it push all the tissue? I suppose it'll totally squish me and make me look barrel chested. (Yeah, try making a G-flat.... all you get is an F#... bad pun, but yeah....)
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^ Like I said, try a compression shirt. There's people with G cups who have become almost totally flat.
You're KIDDING.... I've found it nearly impossible to make myself "Flat". .... I'll have to look into one of those. Where does it push all the tissue? I suppose it'll totally squish me and make me look barrel chested. (Yeah, try making a G-flat.... all you get is an F#... bad pun, but yeah....)
Indeed you're correct, It's a matter of physics. The larger you are the harder it will be to emulate the male chest, but as I've said earlier in this post and in my panel, Men Are Not FLAT Either. Adolescent children are but not mature adults.
So, it's a matter of taking what you have and copying the character you want to become. My friend is a G cup and we are able to use a combination of binding methods and padding to make her look like a quite convincing soldier (she's also tall which helps alot)
So yes it is possible to be convincing as a man and no you will never be completely flat but men aren't either.
Cheers,
Kato
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In my experience, (I bind every day I'm a transman) I use back braces around my chest. Works well!
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The panel was so fabulous and you guys looked amazing!! OwO <3
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The panel was so fabulous and you guys looked amazing!! OwO <3
Arigatoo Gozaimasu! Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it. We were all sorry that the slide show went wonky and promise to have that fixed for future panels.
We also have been working on our website (www.crossplaysociety.org) to add content and help us improve the panel presentation too.
So Thank you to everyone who attended! We had alot of fun and hope you all got something out of it.
Cheers!
Kato
Crossplay Society Chairperson
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The panel was so fabulous and you guys looked amazing!! OwO <3
Arigatoo Gozaimasu! Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it. We were all sorry that the slide show went wonky and promise to have that fixed for future panels.
We also have been working on our website (www.crossplaysociety.org) to add content and help us improve the panel presentation too.
So Thank you to everyone who attended! We had alot of fun and hope you all got something out of it.
Cheers!
Kato
Crossplay Society Chairperson
yeah, definetly gotta get the slideshow working.
And thanks for hauling me up infront...that seems to happen to me alot when I walk into a panel room...
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yeah, definetly gotta get the slideshow working.
And thanks for hauling me up infront...that seems to happen to me alot when I walk into a panel room...
That my dear is because you're very talented and many others besides me have noticed ... oh and I also just happen to like having my friends be my examples at panels and dolls for me to put cosplays on. Living cosplay dolls are fun ;)
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So, i got a question... would a compression vest thing hurt if you have a bigger chest? Cuz ima dd
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So, i got a question... would a compression vest thing hurt if you have a bigger chest? Cuz ima dd
No, not as long as you don't try to compress down too far. You might either have to go to a place where you can try some on or order a couple of sizes and keep the one that fits correctly.
Remember you aren't trying to be totally flat, just minimize and give the illusion of a more male chest/shape.
Cheers,
Kato
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Underworks is amazing!
My boyfriend is transgender (female to male) and what's what he uses on a daily base. They can be a little spendy but they will last you a good chunk of time if you are going to be doing alot of binding cosplay.
Also, ACE is a bad idea, she's right in the fact that if you do it wrong it could crack a rib and most people don't know how to do it correctly. Trust me when I say it's worth the money to go through underworks.
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I bind alot, not just in cosplay, but to hide the fat i'm a girl from my girlfriends parents(they're homophobes...). if you can take two sports bras, wear one of them backwards. and wear a woman's wife beater that's at lest one size smaller than your actual size. also if you have an hourglass shape, wrap a towel around your midsection.
and try to wear a baggy-ish shirt, it hide it well
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I m kinda build like a guy so it easy for my shape I found that when i take two Ace banded and i cut them and them i stich bra hooks on each side after stiching them togeather it works well .
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Thanks for the tips!
I may or may not be doing a male cosplay in which I will need binding for this year (I'm unsure as of the current moment), but I am running on a rather low budget. If anything, I'd probably need to use ACE bandages (since I already have those). I was wondering if there were any tutorials for putting them on correctly? I'd prefer not to break my ribs, as that sounds rather painful.
If not I can probably just go buy that thing at Walmart that Vampire had mentioned in the second post. But I'd prefer working with what I've got if possible.
Thanks again!~
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I tried duct tape once, which was a HUGE mistake for me. I don't know if it's because I have sensitive skin, or that I left it on too long or even took it off the wrong way, but I had blisters on my chest for days afterwards. Not pleasant.
Despite that though I understand the need for a flat chest to make that one costume perfect, but without the funds to get a different means of binding.
As for Ace bandages, they kinda hurt after awhile (they ARE specifically meant for support, not squeezing down lady lumps) but overall they work if you're low on cash or in a pinch for time. It's true what everyone says though, they can crack or break some ribs if you're not careful. But, you know what they say "beauty is pain" (or something like that).
I haven't tried the compression shirts, but overall people seem to really like them.
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Best ways to bind other than buying binders at like T-kingdom or Underworks I think is the name of the other site. Is to use a Ace bandage. Or use a shirt that can be used as a compression shirt.
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I highly suggest underworks binders.
I got one and it doesn't hurt at alll and it helps when cosplaying a male.
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All right.
i have perhaps some useful input.My english is iffy,but i hope this makes sense.
I am a 34 F and they are not natural so even with maximum safe compression i cannot get totally flat,so i also rely on camoflage.
Any good binders,like underworks compression,or even making your own out of 4 way stretch lycra.I made mine 6 inches smaller than my bust and "sleeveless shirt style"But i had one from underworks works great too!i have never tried the walmart ones but they look like if you get a small size they might work.
Gauze wrapped tight but not too tight with medical tape taping it in place,thoroughly will usually hold and it will absorb sweat as well.if you use straight up tape,paper tape medical tape seems to be the least harsh to skin,other medical tapes that are harsher i have seen tear off skin.so look for gentle medical tape.i still suggest a thin layer of gauze though.
and while if your bust is not natural you cannot get super flat,i reduce from an F to about a C usually 4-5 inches,so it is possible to compress and camouflage any boobies.
i have heard of smaller busted people cutting a hole and the legs off control top panty hose and using it for compression.when i saw the results it looked great!
i promise its true
i also bind my butt and hips,you know those "control" capri/shorts things you can buy in the panty hose section?they compress butt and hips great!,a couple layers of control panty hose will flatten too.
this had so many pages i only skimmed so i am not sure if all of this was covered.i hope it had some helpful tips in it,and as you can see in the comparison,it really works fairly well.
Example:
girl me: (https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Ff%2F2012%2F163%2F4%2Fe%2F4e5cbc6f22c2fa074ab9eb4f4155cd31-d536ibu.jpg&hash=35f65aa6726b66a21261562cfbf3fab486e61a41) clearly not a man body,have to hide lots of stuff.
guy me: (https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs71%2Fi%2F2012%2F103%2F4%2Fe%2Fsakuracon_nuada_4_by_iheartexploding-d4vzsku.jpg&hash=a4fabb44db5e78437d036b3b33623d46c1ee1c9a) [the nuada]with camouflage and a home made compression shirt it might not be perfect but it works wonders! and for the hips i had on the control shorts i described above,it flattened it enough to hide it.the lovely woman in the pic of course many of you know,she made both of these beautiful costumes :D
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I skimmed through the thread a bit and didn't see anything about this website my friend recommended. She cosplayed Scout from Team Fortress 2 but she couldn't really afford anything too expensive, and she found this website here (http://simplebindersfortransmen.weebly.com/index.html). Super cheap and she said it was comfortable and worked very well! I have yet to order one so I can't speak from experience, but I do trust her judgement here. I'll order one for my Spades Slick crossplay and make another post when I can.
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ive found a few ways that work with varying levels of sucsess. i tried ace bandages, but they slid down over the day, and the pins kept coming undone
so i tried vet wrap. the kind they use on horses. it is very solid, very cheep. takes 1-2 roles at only a few dollars a piece. the downside: incredibly uncomfortable. does not stretch at all. its about as close to corseting yourself as it can get.
currently i have switched to wearing two sports bras, one over the other, with a wife beater (one that would be slightly too small for me unbound) over them. its not perfect looking, but under the t-shirt it looks just fine.
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I was just reading through this and I got chills seeing how many people use Ace bandages to bind. Seriously, it is not safe to use them, and it can come with a bunch of medical hazards. Plus, there are plenty of other ways to bind that's cheap and easy if you can't afford a binder.
But for those having trouble, I suggest layers and V shapes. V shaped tops are a way to trick the mind into thinking your shoulders are broader and more masculine looking, and layers help hide your coconuts if you aren't flat enough.
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I skimmed through the thread a bit and didn't see anything about this website my friend recommended. She cosplayed Scout from Team Fortress 2 but she couldn't really afford anything too expensive, and she found this website here (http://simplebindersfortransmen.weebly.com/index.html). Super cheap and she said it was comfortable and worked very well! I have yet to order one so I can't speak from experience, but I do trust her judgement here. I'll order one for my Spades Slick crossplay and make another post when I can.
Okay, so apparently buying these are a mistake, they're not that great. Wearing one of these for even five minutes will restrict breathing and aren't very stretchy at all, so bad advice, go with the other good advice in this thread.
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Okey, umm help?
I have a size g cup and a small buget. Any ideas? I'm not looking for a completely flat chest, just something to hold them down enough so that it's not so painfully obvious...
And I'm trying to avoid Ace bandige. Help? ???
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Okey, umm help?
I have a size g cup and a small buget. Any ideas? I'm not looking for a completely flat chest, just something to hold them down enough so that it's not so painfully obvious...
And I'm trying to avoid Ace bandige. Help? ???
Do not use ace bandages. Ever. What you should do is take a sports bra that is a little too small, maybe a size E or F, and push your breasts to the side towards your arm pits. Otherwise, it will look like you have a uniboob. Wear another tight tank top or compression vest to flatten out your build. This should be silky or smooth cotton to not bunch up what you are going to wear over it. Then wear a looser, thicker tank top over it. And whala, you're flat!
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If you guys wanna shell out for an actual binder, this one's pretty cheap and works well- http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-Among-Zipper-Chest-Breast-Binder-Trans-Lesbian-Shapers/944672191.html
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I have used a sports bra with ace bandages before and had zero issues with them. This was because my grandma (weirdly enough) had experience in binding breasts with ace bandages and make sure that they were done right and not too tight. If you do NOT have experience using ace bandages, sports bras are great. A few other good things are sports tank tops, like Under Armour. I own one and it also helps makes your stomach look great as well (Coming from someone who is 100lbs though, don't trust everything I say).
I am a D cup, and what I did worked just well enough to pull off as Light.
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I'm a little late to this thread unfortunately... I'd love if there was another crossplay panel, since I missed the last one and it's been a few years.
My two cents are that yes a lot of people rave about T-kingdom, and I've bought from them before. And maybe it's just me, I'm an A, but my chest is very broad; I ordered the smallest size from them, it fit great. The one thing it didn't do was compress me where I wanted it to. So if you're small up front, I'd suggest either trying Underwire or ordering a custom sized one. Because I ended up cutting the elastic block out and sewing it into a sports bra so it would actually compress me.
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Oh god, please do not use ace bandages to bind, save up, it's not that hard to save a bit of cash on the side to get a proper binder.
I have terrible back problems from using ace bandages.
The way they compressed my body was not okay, and forced my upper back to curve, I still have back problems because of this and it feels the opposite of okay. Don't use frickin ace bandages even if you're on a budget. No one cares if you're naruto w/ tits. Just please if a way of binding is uncomfortable DONT DO IT!!! Because it could be causing a more serious/permanent issue than you're anticipating.
Ace bandages do not bind in a way that is safe for your back, your back has alot of joints(?) in it, unlike an arm bone etc. Also when I breathe in now I have a slight little gasp type thing I can feel because my lungs were compressed by the ace bandages. I can't breathe 100% correctly now because of that.
If you're on a budget and can't afford a binder, layered sports bras (Like wearing them backwards to) are a REALLY effective alternative (They kind of chafe your pits but that's nothing compared to the more permanent **** ace bandages do to you.) I can not stress enough to NOT USE ACE BANDAGES.
THEY CONSTRICT YOU LIKE A SNAKE. THEY ARE MEANT TO /CONSTRICT/ NOT TO /COMPRESS/
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Whatever you do don't use ACE
If you can spend some money go to http://www.lesloveboat.com/ (http://www.lesloveboat.com/)
Underworks sucks terribly. The site says it's for trans people but it's for sports binding.
Loseloveboat is the best. I have never found anything better. Just check the sizes.
I'm a D and it flattens me out perfectly.
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This (http://oppa-pa.tumblr.com/post/84362604126/aight-nerds-listen-up-for-all-you-transgender) post may help.
All the information on it is in this post.
Don't be afraid to go to ebay to buy binding because you can get amazing ones for under $30. Strapless, tri-stop, full coverage, any kind.
Any, they don't damage your ribs or organs.
Be safe when binding!
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I just recently this past year started binding for some male cosplays and I think layering two sports bra's that are a size or two to small works decently and I'm a F-cup with a size 32 waist and i'm 4"11 in height so I think it works out alright with me.
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Both my boyfriend and I are trans men. All I have to say is the only really safe way to bind is with an actual compression shirt or binder. If you're worried about price, I've found them on Amazon for between $8-$15. If you're worried about chest size, my boyfriend is at least a C cup and can get completely flat. Stay safe!
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Anyone have any resources that AREN'T on the internet? I vastly prefer to be able to try stuff on, especially if I have to shell out a lot of money on it.
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I've cosplayed as male characters and this will be the first year I attempt to bind.
Due to shipping time constraints between now and the con, I decided to try out the sports bra method with a twist: I'll be wearing a slightly smaller/tighter sports bra and will wear a spanx tank top over it.
I don't know how effective it will be, but it is one of the safer options.
I'll come back later after the con's over and give my thoughts then. ^^;
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I've cosplayed as male characters and this will be the first year I attempt to bind.
Due to shipping time constraints between now and the con, I decided to try out the sports bra method with a twist: I'll be wearing a slightly smaller/tighter sports bra and will wear a spanx tank top over it.
I don't know how effective it will be, but it is one of the safer options.
I'll come back later after the con's over and give my thoughts then. ^^;
Update: Yes, the sports bra and tank top worked for me - but I do have a B-cup bust, so I don't know if it'll be as effective for larger sizes.
However, be forewarned, the tiny sports bra (while it worked) was very painful and I didn't want to wear it for longer than an hour for the photoshoot I attended. It left some impressions, but there hasn't been any damage or harm to the chest area.
As some tipsters have mentioned before, bind safely - and briefly, don't over do it!!
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GC2B has a line of nude binders in five different colors and two styles for every color. This is great for those wearing white or thin shirts, low cut necklines, and nonexistent sleeves with their cosplay. Here's the main page (http://www.gc2b.co/collections/gc2b-all-nude) for the collection. The company's has great fitting instructions and from what I've heard from friends the quality is great.