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Title: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: thesirensings on September 07, 2010, 11:55:56 am
Apparently, Kumoricon 2011 is going to be at TWO different hotels next year. Are these hotels close together? Easy to find? Could we maybe get some addresses? I assume there is more than one Red Lion and one Hilton in Vancouver, otherwise I'd figure it out myself.


(Slight topic rename for clarity. @random)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: oslapedo on September 07, 2010, 12:23:38 pm
The Vancoouver Hilton is right next to Esther Short Park, IT'S GONNA BE AMAZING
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: reppy on September 07, 2010, 12:26:12 pm
Yeah, I lurved that location. XD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Cyprus on September 07, 2010, 12:33:16 pm
I personally think it will be a much better option than the Portland Downtown Hilton was lol...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: FateChooseMe on September 07, 2010, 12:42:57 pm
I'm so excited for this being back there next year!
Uwaaah!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Midnight Divine on September 07, 2010, 12:46:15 pm
I think there kinda right next to each other, maybe, like a block away or something? I don't know. I'm so excited for the next con though! :D, we will have a lot more room in the hotels etc. I've never been there, but I heard a lot about it and seen videos of it as well. I think it's the right direction for the con :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Negima on September 07, 2010, 12:48:39 pm
If I remember correctly, it's a couple minutes at most to walk from one to the other.  They're not next-next to each other but they are really close to each other.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: flyinvee11 on September 07, 2010, 12:52:53 pm
If it helps any, the Red Lion is the same hotel where Mewcon was this year.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: LexManos on September 07, 2010, 12:54:27 pm
Red Lion at the Quay
100 Columbia St
Vancouver, WA 98660

Hilton Vancouver Convention Center
301 West 6th Street
Vancouver, WA 98660-3109

They are 3 blocks apart.
I am unsure how they are going to do the layout, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Cyprus on September 07, 2010, 01:11:04 pm
They are just over a 1/4 mile if I am thinking right...which is 5-10 minutes taking your time. Not too bad at all...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 07, 2010, 01:26:16 pm
I IS EXCITED!!! I wanna room in the hotel where the main events will be.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Negima on September 07, 2010, 01:41:31 pm
Red Lion at the Quay
100 Columbia St
Vancouver, WA 98660

Hilton Vancouver Convention Center
301 West 6th Street
Vancouver, WA 98660-3109

They are 3 blocks apart.
I am unsure how they are going to do the layout, but we'll see.
I'm curious too.  Will they split it only for the room reservations or split the dealer's room and AA or something?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on September 07, 2010, 02:41:35 pm
hmmm which hotel to stay in
hilton has my points
red lion has a fridge and microwave
....
Title: Re:
Post by: Fuyuko on September 07, 2010, 02:52:12 pm
I am freaking out!! Next year is going to be so AMAZING! I have a good feeling. >w<
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: thesirensings on September 07, 2010, 02:54:10 pm
Lets just hope it doesn't rain.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Cyprus on September 07, 2010, 02:58:19 pm
hmmm which hotel to stay in
hilton has my points
red lion has a fridge and microwave
....
I'm sold on Red Lion for those reasons alone lol...no more having to get ice & a cup everytime I want my coconut water chilled...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Midnight Divine on September 07, 2010, 03:37:59 pm
Lets just hope it doesn't rain.

Yeah, I hope not!, that would suck >....<
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: SandPuppeteer on September 07, 2010, 03:52:05 pm
With where the hotels are it's not a matter of how close they are but how easy it is to reach. The Hilton is right in the middle of Downtown Vancouver, next to the park. And that is awesome. Sure, the Red Lion is just a few blocks away. But it's not like in Portland where three blocks from the Hilton to Pioneer Square was a straight shot with easy crosswalks. The Red Lion is set deep in a massive parking lot, and the roads don't look exactly pedestrian friendly.

I am not looking forward to dodging traffic in the parking lot while in cosplay. Especially with what I have planned.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: LexManos on September 07, 2010, 04:27:54 pm
For the most part, the walk from hotel to hotel is fine, you have a larger then normal sidewalk, and there *usually* isnt to much street traffic.
As for the parking lot, if you do it right, you only have to cross like 10 feet of parking lot, so it's not that big of a deal.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 07, 2010, 04:33:22 pm
Walking from one hotel to another- a definent other reason why next year, simple cosplay I can move in, wear comfortably all day, and not need a wig. xD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: StarryShay on September 07, 2010, 04:36:31 pm
SO PUMPED GUYS, SO PUMPED
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: FateChooseMe on September 07, 2010, 04:37:31 pm
^ SECOND.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: BloodyWhisker on September 07, 2010, 07:17:08 pm
I remember that location.. I believe that was the location a few years back? It was the first Con I went to..
Hopefully my GPS can find it or I might get lost again. xD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: DarkStar on September 07, 2010, 07:25:37 pm
We got you covered! ;)

Google Walking Directions (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=W+6th+St&daddr=45.622062,-122.67508&hl=en&geocode=FTMxuAIdKCSw-A%3BFS4juAIdeCCw-A&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=17&dirflg=w&sll=45.625466,-122.673898&sspn=0.005425,0.009645&ie=UTF8&ll=45.623643,-122.674531&spn=0.005425,0.009645&t=h&z=17)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: BloodyWhisker on September 07, 2010, 07:33:27 pm
We got you covered! ;)

Google Walking Directions (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=W+6th+St&daddr=45.622062,-122.67508&hl=en&geocode=FTMxuAIdKCSw-A%3BFS4juAIdeCCw-A&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=17&dirflg=w&sll=45.625466,-122.673898&sspn=0.005425,0.009645&ie=UTF8&ll=45.623643,-122.674531&spn=0.005425,0.009645&t=h&z=17)

Oh perfect! So thankful there's a map since I'm unfamiliar with the Vancouver area...
Phew.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: lychee-twist on September 07, 2010, 07:58:51 pm
MEWcon has been at the Red Lion at the Quay if that gives you any frame of reference. The Hilton is very close to that and was a fantastic location for Kumoricon 2007. I'm really excited but not sure how this will work out, especially for those of us who can't get around as well as others. Walking around in heels back and forth would be murder.

My big suggestion is to have some sort of shuttle to go back and forth for those people.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 07, 2010, 08:07:25 pm
Woo! Let me be the 26th to say, YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUGH! I'm so madly stoked that Kumoricon is returning to Vancouver. That was, by far, the best year, and it was because of the location. Yes, yes, yesh. So pumped.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: TomtheFanboy on September 07, 2010, 08:12:58 pm
OK WTF..... Why are my posts being eaten. I think there's some bandwidth issues after the con.

A map you say? I happen to have one left over from 2007....


(https://www.kumoricon.org/apps/image_proxy/image_proxy.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftomthefanboy.com%2Fkumoricon%2F2011%2F2007area.jpg)

This will be updated soon of course. Some of the restaurants I scouted in 2007 actually closed before con that year. This coming year the issue will change from space issue to food issues. If you can't drive, I suggest you make sure you go to con with someone who can.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 07, 2010, 08:16:26 pm
More details on this will follow shortly ... once our brains revive :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: RoscoeTEHclam on September 07, 2010, 08:26:00 pm
any idea what the division will be? like video games and tabletop and dealers hall one place, panels and such at the other?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Mister_manji on September 07, 2010, 08:50:33 pm
There's also a pizza place if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: camname21 on September 07, 2010, 09:15:17 pm
Vary nice Tom +1.  with that huge park right there, it looks like a nice place.  Plus I know someone near by for a free room :D
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kurohime on September 07, 2010, 09:16:28 pm
Very, very excited about the move back to Vancouver!!  Poor Subway, it's going to be hit so hard. ;D
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 07, 2010, 09:54:57 pm
The Subway and Starbucks employees will probably start getting holiday pay for working during Kumoricon weekend - that's the only way to cover the trauma of such overwhelming numbers, hahahaaa
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Akemi_Idane on September 07, 2010, 10:02:38 pm
My California-bound butt does not like the move. D:
I don't know if I'll be able to go!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: SandPuppeteer on September 07, 2010, 10:05:12 pm
My California-bound butt does not like the move. D:
I don't know if I'll be able to go!

It's actually not all that far from where the con was this year. So even though it's a different city, it's really just a suburb of Portland.

And before any Vancouverites shank me for saying that, I grew up there.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: camname21 on September 07, 2010, 10:54:39 pm
Its only like 30min further north.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: ~boogiepop~ on September 07, 2010, 11:07:39 pm
I am sooooooo happy. I hope this next year is amazing. Since we are so close to the river I kind of want to plan one of my cosplays around that now HMMMMM...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: oslapedo on September 07, 2010, 11:18:52 pm
Be that Poke'mon lady and act like you're fishing for Poke'men! Ahahaha

Its only like 30min further north.

If that.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: camname21 on September 07, 2010, 11:59:24 pm
Gave more time in case a traffic.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: TomtheFanboy on September 08, 2010, 12:07:07 am
Those of us who stay at the Red Lion can gaze across the river and be reminded of Kumoricon 2006!
*shudder*
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 08, 2010, 12:10:47 am
any idea what the division will be? like video games and tabletop and dealers hall one place, panels and such at the other?


Which hotel I'm staying at depends on this as well xD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 08, 2010, 12:32:52 am
Those of us who stay at the Red Lion can gaze across the river and be reminded of Kumoricon 2006!
*shudder*

And with fond memories! (At least for me. It was my first year and a great introduction to Kumoricon!)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: ocb777 on September 08, 2010, 01:13:31 am
I'm not terribly happy with the move of city, as it means just enough extra travel time that I cannot go unless I have a room and a ride.

I bus it from a suburb of Portland, and travel time is 2 hours to downtown. In both '08 and '09 I had to go home and sleep at least one night which meant leaving the con at 10pm and not being back till 10 the next morning. The trip will be longer to "The 'Couve."

The reason I go to K-Con is because it is the "Portland" Anime Con. If I have to travel to another state and have to have a room, my money is probably better spent going to Gencon.

I want to go, but I can't say for sure that I will be able too.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Ichi_Kagetora on September 08, 2010, 05:23:23 am
Having lived and traveled diversely through both Portland and Vancouver I can say this, the trip from Tigard OR at the southern tip of Portland to Hayden Island which is the northern tip of Portland takes aprox 14 minutes driving. By bus and train it takes 1.5 hrs if you don't goof around. Many parts of Portland have easy access to the max trin wich takes you almost all the way to the Vancouver red lion then a short C-tran transfer will take you the rest of the distance. Regardless of weather or not it is supposed to be a "Portland" con we should consider how important a good venue is to this con. Almost EVERYBODY i know hated it being at Portland Hilton for various previously described reasons. The only other forseeable option is to move the con to the Portland Convention Center which we can't do seeing as we don't have the capacity for it yet. The more people who show support for Kumoricon, no matter where it goes, the better a venue we can have. hold fourth that the staff have only your best interest in mind and I'm sure you can enjoy it in Vancouver or the Moon or the Island of Naboomboo as much as you did at Hilton Portland.


Edited to improve grammatical errors.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Negima on September 08, 2010, 08:22:38 am
Those of us who stay at the Red Lion can gaze across the river and be reminded of Kumoricon 2006!
*shudder*

And with fond memories! (At least for me. It was my first year and a great introduction to Kumoricon!)
The Red Lion over there pulled a lot of contract changes on us during the con.  Did you attend Closing Ceremonies?  Noticed that it was in a different spot than the rest of the main events?  That's because RL booked a wedding over us.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 08, 2010, 09:45:21 am
Those of us who stay at the Red Lion can gaze across the river and be reminded of Kumoricon 2006!
*shudder*

And with fond memories! (At least for me. It was my first year and a great introduction to Kumoricon!)
The Red Lion over there pulled a lot of contract changes on us during the con.  Did you attend Closing Ceremonies?  Noticed that it was in a different spot than the rest of the main events?  That's because RL booked a wedding over us.

Ooooh, understood. That's messed up, no wonder the bad memories. Yeah, at least things have made progress venue-wise since then.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: ocb777 on September 08, 2010, 10:43:25 am
Having lived and traveled diversely through both Portland and Vancouver I can say this, the trip from Tigard OR at the southern tip of Portland to Hayden Island which is the northern tip of Portland takes aprox 14 minutes driving. By bus and train it takes 1.5 hrs if you don't goof around. Many parts of Portland have easy access to the max trin wich takes you almost all the way to the Vancouver red lion then a short C-tran transfer will take you the rest of the distance.

You assume I don't live farther out than Tigard, or in an area that unlike Tigard has less bus and max access. On weekends, I have bus access once per half an hour and it takes the bus an hour and a half, without traffic and other riders just to get to downtown Portland. Add in a transfer to yellow line, and then to C-tran and I am literally looking at 2-2.5 hours each way, minimum.

And having been a regular at Orycon in the late nineties and early 2000s, and attending KCon the last 3 years, I know that staff makes the decisions based on how they think they can best serve the con goers, but it is still danged inconvenient and cant really be called Portland's anime convention if it is not only not in Portland, but not even in Oregon.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 08, 2010, 10:53:03 am
Having lived and traveled diversely through both Portland and Vancouver I can say this, the trip from Tigard OR at the southern tip of Portland to Hayden Island which is the northern tip of Portland takes aprox 14 minutes driving. By bus and train it takes 1.5 hrs if you don't goof around. Many parts of Portland have easy access to the max trin wich takes you almost all the way to the Vancouver red lion then a short C-tran transfer will take you the rest of the distance.
but it is still danged inconvenient and cant really be called Portland's anime convention if it is not only not in Portland, but not even in Oregon.

I was thinking along the same lines as you back in '07 when they first mentioned moving the con to WA, but once I actually got there and saw how perfectly the location accommodated the convention, all my regional biases went out the window.

Not saying your concerns aren't founded, but there is hope.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: bunny_jean on September 08, 2010, 10:55:06 am
Cons: I didn't mind the location in Vancouver, but my problem with having it in Washinton in general is SALES TAX. I freaking HATE sales tax. In the dealers room they mainly just pushed the prices up to accommodate, so everyone ended up paying basically regular price on a lot of things that could have been below regular price (manga) had the con been in Portland. I also agree that I think of Kumoricon as an OREGON convention. Sakuracon is for Washington, Kumoricon is for Oregon. I know it's just across the bridge, but there are state borderlines being crossed.

Pros: Last time it was in that area we had GORGEOUS weather, and that park was really really pretty and perfect for photoshoots.

Honestly I can't remember any details of the hotel since it was 4 cons ago now, so I can't say anything about that. I don't like the split hotel idea though. When Kumoricon was at the Red Lion in 2006 there were two hotels literally just across a couple parking lots that was okay (even though only the Red Lion had the events). If all of the events are at the Hilton and they're just reserving the separate hotels for hotel attendees to stay at then I have no problems with being at "two hotels." TBH I don't think there are enough events and panels to split it into the two hotels.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Cassiopeia on September 08, 2010, 11:15:03 am
Those of us who stay at the Red Lion can gaze across the river and be reminded of Kumoricon 2006!
*shudder*

And with fond memories! (At least for me. It was my first year and a great introduction to Kumoricon!)

That was my first year too. I didn't know about the problems or have anything else to base it off of, so I thought it was awesome. xD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: DarkStar on September 08, 2010, 11:23:28 am
Cons: I didn't mind the location in Vancouver, but my problem with having it in Washinton in general is SALES TAX. I freaking HATE sales tax. In the dealers room they mainly just pushed the prices up to accommodate, so everyone ended up paying basically regular price on a lot of things that could have been below regular price (manga) had the con been in Portland.

Do what I did! I was about to make a large purchase (over $200) and the vendor stated that the sales tax was built-in. I stated that I was a non-resident of Washington State and was exempt from paying the sales tax (per Washington State law). They declined to remove the tax so I left the purchase on the table.

I refused to purchase from any vendor that wouldn't remove the sales tax, built-in or not. Many ended up doing so when I pushed the issue and presented my Oregon drivers license (state-issued ID is required for verification).

You used to be able to request a refund of sales taxes paid in Washington State, however they have since changed their policy and "will not make refunds directly to consumers when the collection of sales tax is at the discretion of the seller (i.e. sales to nonresidents)." (http://dor.wa.gov/content/FileAndPayTaxes/ApplyForATaxRefund/ (http://dor.wa.gov/content/FileAndPayTaxes/ApplyForATaxRefund/))
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 08, 2010, 11:27:58 am
Last time we were at Vancouver we sold out the Red Lion there, which is the old convention center hotel.  If we are going to sell out a second convention center hotel, we might as well sop up all that event space as well :)  As for how to best use it...  While we have various potential layouts, only the 2011 board can actually commit to a one of them.  I don't want to say too much, as I am neither Hotelchan or Prog, but I will say that the City of Vancouver is very interested in helping us out in any way possible.  Their assistant mayor showed up to our big meeting with both hotels and followed on the walkthroughs to find ways that the city could help us out.  

Many people are very interested in working hard to make sure that 2011 is awesome.  
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: DarkStar on September 08, 2010, 11:37:51 am
Many people are very interested in working hard to make sure that 2011 is awesome.  

One word: Catbus (http://insendai.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-cat-bus/) ;D
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: @random on September 08, 2010, 11:43:04 am
Cons: I didn't mind the location in Vancouver, but my problem with having it in Washinton in general is SALES TAX. I freaking HATE sales tax. In the dealers room they mainly just pushed the prices up to accommodate, so everyone ended up paying basically regular price on a lot of things that could have been below regular price (manga) had the con been in Portland.

Do what I did! I was about to make a large purchase (over $200) and the vendor stated that the sales tax was built-in. I stated that I was a non-resident of Washington State and was exempt from paying the sales tax (per Washington State law). They declined to remove the tax so I left the purchase on the table.

I refused to purchase from any vendor that wouldn't remove the sales tax, built-in or not. Many ended up doing so when I pushed the issue and presented my Oregon drivers license (state-issued ID is required for verification).

You used to be able to request a refund of sales taxes paid in Washington State, however they have since changed their policy and "will not make refunds directly to consumers when the collection of sales tax is at the discretion of the seller (i.e. sales to nonresidents)." (http://dor.wa.gov/content/FileAndPayTaxes/ApplyForATaxRefund/ (http://dor.wa.gov/content/FileAndPayTaxes/ApplyForATaxRefund/))

Personally, I don't understand why in 2010 any state uses a tax system as regressive as sales tax, but that's just me. And I applaud your stand on principle.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Mr Silmero on September 08, 2010, 01:41:13 pm
and we return to my first con location....should be interesting.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 08, 2010, 02:34:49 pm
If you've seen the Leverage episode The Double Blind Job, parts of it were filmed there.  Actually, the filming signs were up while we were doing our walkthroughs, but I never caught a glimpse of anyone.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: childofthemoor on September 08, 2010, 02:54:26 pm
We're moving to my hometown! I love Esther Short Park -- on Saturday, there will probably be a Farmer's Market, which should be interesting.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: SandPuppeteer on September 08, 2010, 03:52:33 pm
We're moving to my hometown! I love Esther Short Park -- on Saturday, there will probably be a Farmer's Market, which should be interesting.

The last time the con was there, the Famer's Market was up and running on the weekend. It was actually pretty awesome. And I'm sure the people with booths really appreciated the extra business.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 08, 2010, 04:05:10 pm
They are just a couple of blocks away.  There will be shuttles going between the two.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: acton on September 08, 2010, 06:05:07 pm
I question the wisdom of this decision on may levels. First of all the I been to mewcon, the road is not very well lit at night and is more that a short walk; a great place for muggers or rapist lot of foliage to hide in. Downtown Vancouver is dead at night the one Mexican restaurant and a sprinkling of fast food downtown the rest are dives and bars. Anything decent is north or all the way into east Vancouver. Public transit is dismal from Portland; there only one bus from max line to down town Vancouver Saturday through Monday. The result is long bus / Max ride from Hillsboro, though not very good neighborhoods. Not a place one wants to be in Cosplay.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: JeffT on September 08, 2010, 06:31:02 pm
First of all the I been to mewcon, the road is not very well lit at night and is more that a short walk; a great place for muggers or rapist lot of foliage to hide in.

The city is adding additional lighting along the path between the hotels for us.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 08, 2010, 06:44:34 pm
It may be a bit too far fetched an idea, but depending on the staff/volunteer size next year, would having an escort be a possibility? For those who are insecure about the walk between hotels or what not, perhaps a yojimbo or bulky volunteer could be designated as a late night escort between hotels.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: AllyKat on September 08, 2010, 06:51:29 pm
 I don't want to say too much, as I am neither Hotelchan or Prog,

Does this mean I have a new nickname?
 ::)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Negima on September 08, 2010, 07:01:47 pm
Many people are very interested in working hard to make sure that 2011 is awesome.  

One word: Catbus (http://insendai.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-cat-bus/) ;D
I second this motion.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 08, 2010, 07:34:11 pm
I question the wisdom of this decision on may levels. First of all the I been to mewcon, the road is not very well lit at night and is more that a short walk; a great place for muggers or rapist lot of foliage to hide in. Downtown Vancouver is dead at night the one Mexican restaurant and a sprinkling of fast food downtown the rest are dives and bars. Anything decent is north or all the way into east Vancouver. Public transit is dismal from Portland; there only one bus from max line to down town Vancouver Saturday through Monday. The result is long bus / Max ride from Hillsboro, though not very good neighborhoods. Not a place one wants to be in Cosplay.

Wow, you're so far off from the truth that it's sad.  I live rather close to the '11 con site; it's not even close to what you're saying, except about lots of the locations closing somewhat late, but even that is an exaggeration.  It's not downtown Portland, but you know what?  There's more thhan likely to be a mugging or raping in downtown Portland than any part of Vancouver.  And it's totally safe for cosplayers.  There were no issues at all in '07 when we were there.

You're also wrong about the buslines.  If you go via the yellow line, it'll come to the #4 in the C-Tran system, which is all 7 days of the week.  There's also the #44, which has limits and, I think, only runs on the weekdays.  There's other options that can be used, but the Yellow+#4 is the best way to do it.  Trust me on the long busride thing, it's not that bad.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: bunny_jean on September 08, 2010, 07:36:22 pm
Many people are very interested in working hard to make sure that 2011 is awesome.  

One word: Catbus (http://insendai.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/the-cat-bus/) ;D
I second this motion.
Thirded
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 08, 2010, 08:12:54 pm
 I don't want to say too much, as I am neither Hotelchan or Prog,

Does this mean I have a new nickname?
 ::)


Yes :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: SandPuppeteer on September 08, 2010, 08:15:46 pm
You're also wrong about the buslines.  If you go via the yellow line, it'll come to the #4 in the C-Tran system, which is all 7 days of the week.  There's also the #44, which has limits and, I think, only runs on the weekdays.  There's other options that can be used, but the Yellow+#4 is the best way to do it.  Trust me on the long busride thing, it's not that bad.

Wow, they changed it? Right after the 07 con, they shut down weekend runs. Did they realize how utterly messed up it was and reinstate weekend trips?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: lychee-twist on September 08, 2010, 09:26:38 pm
I question the wisdom of this decision on may levels. First of all the I been to mewcon, the road is not very well lit at night and is more that a short walk; a great place for muggers or rapist lot of foliage to hide in. Downtown Vancouver is dead at night the one Mexican restaurant and a sprinkling of fast food downtown the rest are dives and bars. Anything decent is north or all the way into east Vancouver. Public transit is dismal from Portland; there only one bus from max line to down town Vancouver Saturday through Monday. The result is long bus / Max ride from Hillsboro, though not very good neighborhoods. Not a place one wants to be in Cosplay.

I've been to Kumoricon 2007, Mewcon 08-09, and Mewcon 09-10. I have no idea what you're talking about. It's really not that dangerous, and there are a ton of places to eat around there. There's a Subway, a Starbucks, Safeway, and a Burgerville a couple of blocks away. For K-Con 2007 my friends and I stayed at the Shiloh Inn with fabulous results, and that was far more of a walk to the con each day than it is between MEWcon and kumoricon. Even the restaurant at REd Lion has great food itself. Awesome clam chowder.

I seriously have no idea what you're talking about with the danger levels. And when it comes to the bus and max lines and cosplay, we had a discussion about that very subject no the "Cosplay and Max" thread.

I'm very conservative about safety as I have a nurse and a Firefighter/EMT for parents as well as a cop for a brother. I've heard a LOT of stories. I have never had any bad feelings about that area, and if you feel unsafe, I recommend just travelling in groups, keeping your head up, your eyes alert, and perhaps buying a canister of mace if you really feel it necessary.

That said, I really do think some sort of transport bus between the two is a really good idea. There are some of us who are physically unfit for travel back and forth for several different reasons. We need to consider the people who can't move as well as others.

BTW there's a Thai place around there that has FABULOUS food. Seriously delicious.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: lychee-twist on September 08, 2010, 09:28:11 pm
Its only like 30min further north.

That estimate is on the more traffic-heavy side really. Avoid rush hour and you can be up there in around fifteen to twenty minutes I would say.

Do avoid 1-5 at 5PM, though. The Seattle exit clogs to holy crud.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: VulgateCycle on September 08, 2010, 09:48:46 pm
I'll probably go. And drag a friend along with me.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kurohime on September 08, 2010, 11:48:29 pm
I-5 does clog terribly at rush hour.  I've been an hour late into Seattle before because of it.  Fortunately it's a holiday weekend.  I didn't have any problems with traffic in 07. 

And it's not to everyone's taste, but there's nothing wrong with stockpiling picnic food in your room.  It worked well for me and mine this year (after the long, long lines to get food at Sakuracon, it's almost a must!).
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: acton on September 09, 2010, 12:03:42 am
I question the wisdom of this decision on may levels. First of all the I been to mewcon, the road is not very well lit at night and is more that a short walk; a great place for muggers or rapist lot of foliage to hide in. Downtown Vancouver is dead at night the one Mexican restaurant and a sprinkling of fast food downtown the rest are dives and bars. Anything decent is north or all the way into east Vancouver. Public transit is dismal from Portland; there only one bus from max line to down town Vancouver Saturday through Monday. The result is long bus / Max ride from Hillsboro, though not very good neighborhoods. Not a place one wants to be in Cosplay.

I've been to Kumoricon 2007, Mewcon 08-09, and Mewcon 09-10. I have no idea what you're talking about. It's really not that dangerous, and there are a ton of places to eat around there. There's a Subway, a Starbucks, Safeway, and a Burgerville a couple of blocks away. For K-Con 2007 my friends and I stayed at the Shiloh Inn with fabulous results, and that was far more of a walk to the con each day than it is between MEWcon and kumoricon. Even the restaurant at REd Lion has great food itself. Awesome clam chowder.

 
I was at the Red Lion for Mewcon 2009-10. I was the person with the big Hello Kitty. It was rainy and dark I missed the turn into the parking lot. I stuck to driving. Except for the waterfront, I would not like to walk that street at night.  As for the food scene, I do not like over inflated hotel prices. Starbucks is neither dinner nor fast food and I despise Subway. It is cheaper just to go to Safeway and by bread and sandwich meat.  I want no less than three course, reasonable to good quality at reasonable price for dinner nothing else will do. Yes I am a food snob.  Somebody suggest burger and fires or Subway for dinner they might be wearing it if I am in a bad mood. ;0 The nearest decent pizza place is about two mile away past main and anything else is back to Portland or near I-205.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: mellonemrys on September 09, 2010, 12:17:42 am
@Tom, I was hit by a thought this year, that maybe having a list (possibly with pictures) of good photoshoot places around the con space would be a good idea. I know when I was looking at the locations chosen by groups for this year I was a bit disappointed by them, like the Hetalia group could have had an awesome shoot at the World Trade Center. I really don't know other than the park whats around the '11 location though. Perhaps we could get together and scout out a few additional places to spread out the shoots? Any suggestions from the Vancouver crowd?

Also, remembering from '07 although it was kinda creepy just how deserted the town was at night, but it was DESERTED. Me and a few friends walked around at four in the morning in a city we'd never been in (probably not all that smart really), but we never ran into anyone...nor had any problems. There's easy parking, decently easy food, and that park was amazing for photos. Some of the other hotels around will be giving con rates in addition to the Red Lion and the Hilton, the businesses and the city are excited to work with us, and we're now a two hotel con! I am super excited for this next year!

Just a note: There will be problems with every single hotel you can find in the area. Even if they have a 'Convention Center' those spaces and areas aren't always meant to be used all at once by the same event. Moving to be a two con hotel was a good choice at this point, and especially when the hotels and the city are so excited to work with us to make sure that you the attendee has a GREAT time, I don't have a problem with coming the extra 15 mins from Beaverton.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: TomtheFanboy on September 09, 2010, 11:35:29 am
@Tom, I was hit by a thought this year, that maybe having a list (possibly with pictures) of good photoshoot places around the con space would be a good idea. I know when I was looking at the locations chosen by groups for this year I was a bit disappointed by them, like the Hetalia group could have had an awesome shoot at the World Trade Center. I really don't know other than the park whats around the '11 location though. Perhaps we could get together and scout out a few additional places to spread out the shoots? Any suggestions from the Vancouver crowd?

That's a really good idea. I am rubbish at photoshoots. I trust others to attend and get good pictures, one schedule per convention is enough for me. I'd love to have somebody with me on the drive to help scout for them as well. I'll be sure to bring my cameras as well so we can get sample shots. I'm sure the waterfront and the massive back deck the Red Lion has will be great for some photoshoots.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 09, 2010, 02:29:28 pm
You're also wrong about the buslines.  If you go via the yellow line, it'll come to the #4 in the C-Tran system, which is all 7 days of the week.  There's also the #44, which has limits and, I think, only runs on the weekdays.  There's other options that can be used, but the Yellow+#4 is the best way to do it.  Trust me on the long busride thing, it's not that bad.

Wow, they changed it? Right after the 07 con, they shut down weekend runs. Did they realize how utterly messed up it was and reinstate weekend trips?

I'm not sure I know what "change" you're talking about.  It must be the Yellow line, because the #4 is the busiest route in the whole system.  It's been an all-7/as late as Midnight busline for years.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: mellonemrys on September 09, 2010, 02:37:34 pm
With all the same questions about walking directions and which park was which this year I thought it might be good to have some of the better locations posted with pics so the cosplayers could figure out ahead of time which location would work best for their series. Also with so many abbot this past year and most likely fewer locations plus fewer people who know the area it could be very useful.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 09, 2010, 02:44:36 pm
This year the park thing will be EASY!!!  It's a giant park, about 4 square blocks in "area" with a giant clock tower acrossed the street from the Hilton.  Even Ryoga Hibiki could find it.

I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying in your last sentence.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: SandPuppeteer on September 09, 2010, 02:47:23 pm
You're also wrong about the buslines.  If you go via the yellow line, it'll come to the #4 in the C-Tran system, which is all 7 days of the week.  There's also the #44, which has limits and, I think, only runs on the weekdays.  There's other options that can be used, but the Yellow+#4 is the best way to do it.  Trust me on the long busride thing, it's not that bad.

Wow, they changed it? Right after the 07 con, they shut down weekend runs. Did they realize how utterly messed up it was and reinstate weekend trips?

I'm not sure I know what "change" you're talking about.  It must be the Yellow line, because the #4 is the busiest route in the whole system.  It's been an all-7/as late as Midnight busline for years.

The change I'm referring to was back in 2007, C-Tran cut weekend trips to Portland. There was no more running between the yellow line and Vancouver on the weekends. It took effect immediately after labor day weekend that year.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 09, 2010, 03:41:13 pm
Okay, I think I know what you're talking about.  Yeah, that was just changes to the routes.  Tri-Met did that to me last year on the way to the Hilton.  I was under the impression that I'd be able to loop around PSU and get off in front of the hotel, which it does, but for some reason they stopped the loop part early that very night, so I had to walk, and got lost.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 09, 2010, 04:09:53 pm
It may be a bit too far fetched an idea, but depending on the staff/volunteer size next year, would having an escort be a possibility? For those who are insecure about the walk between hotels or what not, perhaps a yojimbo or bulky volunteer could be designated as a late night escort between hotels.

My dad said this should happen too, when he picked us up from Kcon '10 and I was telling him about how 2011's going to be set-up. But the issue with that is again, staff/volunteer size and if a vehicle was used as an escort, where the money for that would be coming from. You'd have to have more than one, an they would have to fit a fair number of people, so....  but I agree with the second half of your statement at least. Perhaps a yojimbo or a couple along the path? Again, depending on volunteer/staff size.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: AllyKat on September 09, 2010, 04:31:00 pm
but I agree with the second half of your statement at least. Perhaps a yojimbo or a couple along the path? Again, depending on volunteer/staff size.

In an unofficial capacity... I'd suggest an alternate option, depending on the amount of
Yojimbo we have to work with.

What about stationary yojimbo lining the walk way between the convention spaces?
This allows the areas to be monitored at all times and also gives those walking them an
added security.

Just a thought, not an actual proposal.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 09, 2010, 06:05:03 pm
but I agree with the second half of your statement at least. Perhaps a yojimbo or a couple along the path? Again, depending on volunteer/staff size.

In an unofficial capacity... I'd suggest an alternate option, depending on the amount of
Yojimbo we have to work with.

What about stationary yojimbo lining the walk way between the convention spaces?
This allows the areas to be monitored at all times and also gives those walking them an
added security.

Just a thought, not an actual proposal.

Yeah, something along that path needs to happen, it's the problem of exactly what you can do with who and what you have.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: The_Geek on September 09, 2010, 06:07:42 pm
I'm rather apprehensive about the move. Does Kumoricon have a good reputation with hotel staff? I remember 2009 as being somewhat hellish in regards to how some people felt that they were being treated. I certainly have not heard many complaints this year, but next year... New Vicinity... Are we going to have any problems?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 09, 2010, 06:10:41 pm
I'm rather apprehensive about the move. Does Kumoricon have a good reputation with hotel staff? I remember 2009 as being somewhat hellish in regards to how some people felt that they were being treated. I certainly have not heard many complaints this year, but next year... New Vicinity... Are we going to have any problems?

We were there in 2007, and everything was fine. I don't remember any problems with hotel staff. And remember, they were the ones who begged us to come back (as said in Closing Ceremonies)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: AllyKat on September 09, 2010, 07:46:36 pm
Yeah, EVERYONE there remembers us, and they are SUPER excited to have us back... not to mention both hotels have hosted events similar to us in style (Gamestorm and MEWcon) but just not in size, though they are very aware that the size will be the difference.... to give you an image of me at my meetings with these hotels over the past months, I think the words I said most were;

"We plan to have OVER 9000* crazy cosplayers invading your hotels... thats OVER 9000* people glomping, laughing, loitering and generally having a good time but doing it in your hotel space. Think you can handle that?"

Okay, so maybe I didn't say over 9000, but I did say 6000 repeatedly, and I made big wavy hand gestures as if to say "This area will be filled to the brim with happy people!"

I just kinda pulled the numbers from the air, because I wanted them to get the idea that this was not some tiny little business convention, this was a big group of awesome Anime and Japanese culture fans converging on the Downtown Vancouver area and basically taking it over. The imagery got across, and I know they will be ready for us. Rest assured, if I am still in this position, I wont stop illustrating the massiveness of our convention to these two hotels!

-Ally
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 09, 2010, 07:54:42 pm
It makes me so happy they were the ones to approach you guys!! I cannot wait till the 2011 con!!!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 09, 2010, 09:25:25 pm
That's super assuring to know that the hotel is as eager to have us back as the majority of us are to return. This augurs beautifully for next year.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Midnight Divine on September 09, 2010, 09:38:26 pm
Yeaaah, the next con will be Epic!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 09, 2010, 10:14:28 pm
Yeah, EVERYONE there remembers us, and they are SUPER excited to have us back... not to mention both hotels have hosted events similar to us in style (Gamestorm and MEWcon) but just not in size, though they are very aware that the size will be the difference.... to give you an image of me at my meetings with these hotels over the past months, I think the words I said most were;

"We plan to have OVER 9000* crazy cosplayers invading your hotels... thats OVER 9000* people glomping, laughing, loitering and generally having a good time but doing it in your hotel space. Think you can handle that?"

Okay, so maybe I didn't say over 9000, but I did say 6000 repeatedly, and I made big wavy hand gestures as if to say "This area will be filled to the brim with happy people!"

I just kinda pulled the numbers from the air, because I wanted them to get the idea that this was not some tiny little business convention, this was a big group of awesome Anime and Japanese culture fans converging on the Downtown Vancouver area and basically taking it over. The imagery got across, and I know they will be ready for us. Rest assured, if I am still in this position, I wont stop illustrating the massiveness of our convention to these two hotels!

-Ally

I am stilling LOLing forever about how the hotel staff were lying in wait for us when they heard that Kcon was going to have a presence at Gamestorm. 

We have a great rep with the hotel and with the city. 
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: AllyKat on September 09, 2010, 11:50:40 pm
YEAH SERIOUSLY!

They didn't even wait for us to get any of our stuff in the room and they
were already asking for us to sit down with them! It was really amazing!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 10, 2010, 01:32:37 am
YEAH SERIOUSLY!

They didn't even wait for us to get any of our stuff in the room and they
were already asking for us to sit down with them! It was really amazing!

That really is soooo cooool!! *has a fangirl moment* xD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 10, 2010, 11:59:03 am
Very awesome. Positive relations are always a pleasure to hear about.  ;D
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 10, 2010, 02:25:54 pm
I'm rather apprehensive about the move. Does Kumoricon have a good reputation with hotel staff? I remember 2009 as being somewhat hellish in regards to how some people felt that they were being treated. I certainly have not heard many complaints this year, but next year... New Vicinity... Are we going to have any problems?

We were there in 2007, and everything was fine. I don't remember any problems with hotel staff. And remember, they were the ones who begged us to come back (as said in Closing Ceremonies)

The Hilton staff LOVED us in '07.  We were their very first multi-day con, and we PROVED that they could hold one successfully.  I'm confident that we'll have the same reception with them.  As for the Red Lion, some of us on staff are also involved with MEWcon, which as I recall, was born at this Red Lion.  I'm sure there'll be some good relationships there, and what there isn't there, it WILL WORK!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on September 10, 2010, 04:15:28 pm
I just saw a red lion ad for a breakfast buffet for 5 bucks, con now I dont know if its at the red lion we are going to be part of but our con could shut that down !
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: AllyKat on September 10, 2010, 04:37:01 pm
LOL

Yes indeed, the Red Lion does a roaring start breakfast for $5 at this hotel...
I am going to make sure they understand fair warning that they will most likely be
so swamped it is crazy. Hopefully they will heed us and prepare tons of extra food!

-Ally
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 10, 2010, 07:26:27 pm
^ Owww, ouch.... they gonna be swaaampppedddd with hungry cosplayers
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on September 12, 2010, 10:19:18 am
ok, a few questions. i wanna start looking at hotel reservations now. is there some kind of passcode that will give me a discount? if so, what is it? and, when can i get my con badge for 2011? i kinda want to pre reg now. but i dont see it up and running yet.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Negima on September 12, 2010, 10:28:25 am
YEAH SERIOUSLY!

They didn't even wait for us to get any of our stuff in the room and they
were already asking for us to sit down with them! It was really amazing!
That part I missed a detail or two.  When did the VanHilt come up and ask to come back?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 12, 2010, 10:36:55 am
YEAH SERIOUSLY!

They didn't even wait for us to get any of our stuff in the room and they
were already asking for us to sit down with them! It was really amazing!
That part I missed a detail or two.  When did the VanHilt come up and ask to come back?

When we were at Gamestorm to run console gaming. 
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: AllyKat on September 12, 2010, 12:49:19 pm
ok, a few questions. i wanna start looking at hotel reservations now. is there some kind of passcode that will give me a discount? if so, what is it? and, when can i get my con badge for 2011? i kinda want to pre reg now. but i dont see it up and running yet.

*Has a panic attack*

Erm... um... give me like.... a day or two okay? It's Sunday right now and my contacts aren't in office... but wow... ok... I will get that set up ASAP...

*grabs a paper bag*

Nice to see you are all jumping at the bit to get rooms! YAY!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on September 12, 2010, 12:54:15 pm
lol. its ok. its not like id be able to pay for it right now (in between paydays) and yeah. but it would still be nice.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 12, 2010, 01:47:59 pm
Am I correct in assuming that main events like cosplay contest, dances, and AMV will most likely be held in the Hilton?

Whatever hotel the main events are held in is the one I want to room in, so I don't have to walk back and forth to change out of cosplay, change for the KumoriBall, and then again for the Rave~
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 12, 2010, 02:21:52 pm
Am I correct in assuming that main events like cosplay contest, dances, and AMV will most likely be held in the Hilton?

Whatever hotel the main events are held in is the one I want to room in, so I don't have to walk back and forth to change out of cosplay, change for the KumoriBall, and then again for the Rave~

The 2011 Programming Director is the one who decides the layout, since we don't have one yet it no one can promise anything.  Though, you can ask the candidates their ideas on what the split should be :)
Title: Re:
Post by: agpgirl on September 12, 2010, 03:28:39 pm
I am freaking out!! Next year is going to be so AMAZING! I have a good feeling. >w<

^-^ *nods*
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: SageBell on September 12, 2010, 03:42:43 pm
Next years location is the place I had my first con. I left with some random people I didn't know and slept at their house. OH SO FUN. lawl
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: cloud-9 on September 12, 2010, 09:54:10 pm
Lol. So this is no longer oregons largest anime convention. Bummer
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 12, 2010, 10:36:29 pm
Lol. So this is no longer oregons largest anime convention. Bummer

It's not as rigid as all that. Across the river or not, it is still known for its roots in Oregon and the Northwest, and that's what is important.

It will be for the best, too! We'll all have fun!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Hanamaru on September 13, 2010, 10:10:36 am
AW WUT.

If the con isn't in downtown Portland next year, I can't go DX
I'm kind of a Trimet kid >3<
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 10:17:16 am
AW WUT.

If the con isn't in downtown Portland next year, I can't go DX
I'm kind of a Trimet kid >3<


You can still get to Vancouver on public transit. (See: previous posts about C-tran, etc.) It's not that far from Downtown Portland, so it wouldn't be that hard to get there.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 13, 2010, 10:19:45 am
AW WUT.

If the con isn't in downtown Portland next year, I can't go DX
I'm kind of a Trimet kid >3<


You can still get to Vancouver on public transit. (See: previous posts about C-tran, etc.) It's not that far from Downtown Portland, so it wouldn't be that hard to get there.

Once the new website is up, it will likely have travel information like this :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 10:21:34 am
AW WUT.

If the con isn't in downtown Portland next year, I can't go DX
I'm kind of a Trimet kid >3<


You can still get to Vancouver on public transit. (See: previous posts about C-tran, etc.) It's not that far from Downtown Portland, so it wouldn't be that hard to get there.

Once the new website is up, it will likely have travel information like this :)

That's a smart move, Rathany. For every one person who raises a concern on the forums, there are probably a hundred off-the-forums with the same question.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Hanamaru on September 13, 2010, 10:32:58 am
Once the new website is up, it will likely have travel information like this :)

I CAN STILL GO!? <333
Yaaay! xD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Man of the Public on September 13, 2010, 10:39:22 am
All these concerns are why I love having a hotel room.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 13, 2010, 10:55:38 am
All these concerns are why I love having a hotel room.

I am so glad that I will be staying on site this time.  I wasn't the last time we were in Vancouver, and I was a reg asst. manager.  Man, I really should not have been driving some of those nights. 
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Classy Viking on September 13, 2010, 12:26:40 pm
I'm so glad about the location change for next year, since my main complaint of kumoricon for the past two years is that it's been so cramped, and that it was all in one location.

But this next year, it will give me a chance to walk between locations, It's so refreshing.

Poo on the all he haters.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: The One True Turtle on September 13, 2010, 12:28:14 pm
I'm so glad about the location change for next year, since my main complaint of kumoricon for the past two years is that it's been so cramped, and that it was all in one location.

But this next year, it will give me a chance to walk between locations, It's so refreshing.

Poo on the all he haters.

Amen to that brother!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Negima on September 13, 2010, 12:34:38 pm
AW WUT.

If the con isn't in downtown Portland next year, I can't go DX
I'm kind of a Trimet kid >3<

Luckily since this is our second year being there we already have experience in how to get people there.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 01:15:20 pm
I really can't express enough how much I'm looking forward to all the outdoor space for next year. It's going to be used well, I reckon.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on September 13, 2010, 03:21:33 pm
next year.... we invade vancouver!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 13, 2010, 03:27:04 pm
Is it next year yet?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on September 13, 2010, 03:29:32 pm
no. i wish it was. or maybe not... cuz i still have to work on cosplays.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 04:08:11 pm
I wish it was closer to next year, at least, then I'd have an excuse to start working on cosplay. I also just keep trying to envision the area around the hotel and remember if certain features and buildings are indeed there (or if I'm imagining them) for photo-shoot planning. Ah, all the things one can do when all they have is time on their hands, lol
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: camname21 on September 13, 2010, 04:31:14 pm
The park is vary nice looking and big.  I hope we get a lot of Plan Your Own Adventure park activities next year.  LARP combat would be fun outside.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 13, 2010, 04:46:01 pm
It totally would!  Ester Short Park is great; lots of great memories there...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: camname21 on September 13, 2010, 04:55:51 pm
It totally would!  Ester Short Park is great; lots of great memories there...
First bunny hop?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 13, 2010, 05:00:43 pm
I took some staff up today so they could walk the walk between the hotels.  I timed it with my phone. 

At a casual walking pace, while we were chatting, from the corner of the Hilton to the edge of the Red Lion property was 2 minutes and 45 seconds.  It was about 55 seconds more to the lobby door.  Again, this was at a 'chatting and strolling pace' and not a 'Ooh, I want to get somewhere' pace. 

Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: camname21 on September 13, 2010, 05:04:56 pm
Well that is only a little more then what it took to go from gaming to any con space other then dealers hall this year.  It shouldn't be that bad, I just hope stuff is divided by type at the convention.  That way if you like certain things they will mostly be in the same hotel and we won't be walking back and forth every hour.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 13, 2010, 05:07:47 pm
I just hope stuff is divided by type at the convention.  That way if you like certain things they will mostly be in the same hotel and we won't be walking back and forth every hour.

Yeah that one.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 05:12:02 pm
I just hope stuff is divided by type at the convention.  That way if you like certain things they will mostly be in the same hotel and we won't be walking back and forth every hour.

Yeah that one.

That's a great point, and I agree.

I took some staff up today so they could walk the walk between the hotels.  I timed it with my phone. 

At a casual walking pace, while we were chatting, from the corner of the Hilton to the edge of the Red Lion property was 2 minutes and 45 seconds.  It was about 55 seconds more to the lobby door.  Again, this was at a 'chatting and strolling pace' and not a 'Ooh, I want to get somewhere' pace. 



That's not a bad time at all. That's not even complaint-worthy, sounds like a great set-up. No farther from one another than one exhibit hall to another on a separate floor, really.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 13, 2010, 05:12:53 pm
It totally would!  Ester Short Park is great; lots of great memories there...
First bunny hop?

... not entirely, but I did take a cute pic of a girl with bunny ears in '07 there...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 13, 2010, 05:21:29 pm
I don't know the exact room per hotel/layout
but maybe...

Hilton- main events, panels, live, Dealers....
Red Lion- Gaming, Karaoke, Viewing, Workshops ???
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Jamiche on September 13, 2010, 05:23:52 pm
Layout will be decided after elections, but it was thought about before committing to the space :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Man of the Public on September 13, 2010, 07:46:49 pm
Also to anyone who is worried about being mugged or other nasty things like that remember this:
Hamboning will save your life one day, you'll be like "What! You trying to mug me?"
(https://www.kumoricon.org/apps/image_proxy/image_proxy.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi1015.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf275%2Fnerves_end%2F1284354089241.gif)
and they'll stop.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 13, 2010, 07:50:00 pm
Also remember this: it's Vancouver, not Portland.  You have a better chance at getting mugged by a 70-year-old lady in Portland than from the stereotypical mugger in Vancouver, especially so close to the Hilton.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on September 13, 2010, 07:59:04 pm
i wasnt worried about being mugged... much. more worried about being sexually assaulted.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Man of the Public on September 13, 2010, 08:01:23 pm
Well that's the miracle of Hamboning, Once you lay your hands on yourself, no one else can lay theirs on you!
(https://www.kumoricon.org/apps/image_proxy/image_proxy.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi1015.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf275%2Fnerves_end%2F1284354089241.gif)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on September 13, 2010, 08:03:07 pm
lol. im sure.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 08:26:34 pm
i wasnt worried about being mugged... much. more worried about being sexually assaulted.

On a note that serious, watch out for yourself and keep friends close. Staff and Yojimbo are there to keep everyone and everyone safe, and if you watch for yourself also, everything should be good. Very few people will come to an event like Kumoricon with assault in mind. Most just want to have fun and are as protective of their fellow con-goers as their own families. ^_^

That's inside the con-space, and outside of it, like Washougal said, Vancouver is not nearly as nocturnal as Portland. There really just isn't a local nightlife, where the hotel is located anyway. It's vacant at night and safe by day, so, yay for that!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on September 13, 2010, 08:28:56 pm
ill keep that in mind. any word on hotel discount codes?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 08:36:24 pm
ill keep that in mind. any word on hotel discount codes?

As quoted from AllyKat yesterday:
ok, a few questions. i wanna start looking at hotel reservations now. is there some kind of passcode that will give me a discount? if so, what is it? and, when can i get my con badge for 2011? i kinda want to pre reg now. but i dont see it up and running yet.

*Has a panic attack*

Erm... um... give me like.... a day or two okay? It's Sunday right now and my contacts aren't in office... but wow... ok... I will get that set up ASAP...

So, I'd give it a week at least before expecting any information on room codes/rates/etc. AllyKat's working hard! We're all just too eager too early, haha
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on September 13, 2010, 08:44:41 pm
ill keep that in mind. any word on hotel discount codes?

I would wait until after elections on the 25th then things will settle a bit and ally can get to work on it
Stay tuned to the forums as when there is a code avalible
I wish this thing could have spell check.......

anyway not to dewell on breakfast but has anyone seen that comercial where cliff from cheers steals all the bacon from the breakfast buffet?
When I think k-con and breakfast buffet it pops into my head
I feel this would be a commen occurance from the k-con crowd
"Today a child is born unto us, and his name will be bacon."
--Wallace
Scott Pilgram and the infinite sadness
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: camname21 on September 13, 2010, 08:48:31 pm
If you are worried about being assaulted.  Look in the lobby for a guy that has friends just standing talking, and ask him, or them, to walk with you.  You can substitute the boy with a girl if you are worried about other cosplayers.  

Also, while yoji might figure something out to escort people, a private group of people might form to assist those at night walking from one place to another.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 08:49:35 pm
ill keep that in mind. any word on hotel discount codes?

I would wait until after elections on the 25th then things will settle a bit and ally can get to work on it
Stay tuned to the forums as when there is a code avalible
I wish this thing could have spell check.......

anyway not to dewell on breakfast but has anyone seen that comercial where cliff from cheers steals all the bacon from the breakfast buffet?
When I think k-con and breakfast buffet it pops into my head
I feel this would be a commen occurance from the k-con crowd
"Today a child is born unto us, and his name will be bacon."
--Wallace
Scott Pilgram and the infinite sadness

I expect the Hilton's restaurant to be severely slammed, buffet + bacon always means borderline thievery. But, that's what it's there for. I'm sure I'll be taking advantage of the restaurant, since I didn't last time I was there.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on September 13, 2010, 08:50:33 pm
thank you for all your help. im not too worried about it... we'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 08:52:49 pm
If you are worried about being assaulted.  Look in the lobby for a guy that has friends just standing talking, and ask him, or them, to walk with you.  You can substitute the boy with a girl if you are worried about other cosplayers.  

Also, while yoji might figure something out to escort people, a private group of people might form to assist those at night walking from one place to another.

I was hitting on just this point some pages ago. I'll be cosplaying as this guy (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cjHGUMeeklM/SWAs6Dq6MhI/AAAAAAAAALU/mEWtGYMvKh4/s320/barret_ffvii.jpg) and just hanging around the con-space all weekend, especially in the evenings, so, open invitation to anyone, if you need some sort of unofficial escort or apparent muscle, I'd be glad to help out. Barret's made for intimidation and protection, haha, Just come find me.  ;D
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: camname21 on September 13, 2010, 08:55:33 pm
nice
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 13, 2010, 09:40:18 pm
Safety concerns are not to be taken lightly, but don't panic.  If I had thought to bring my video recorder today I could have shown you the walk and that might help lay to rest some fears.  The staff I brought there today were far more relaxed once I showed them the actual walk.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 13, 2010, 09:56:36 pm
I believe you can book the hotel room and apply the Kumoricon code to it later.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 10:02:09 pm
I believe you can book the hotel room and apply the Kumoricon code to it later.

Oh, yeah, that's right. I do remember doing that, at one point anyway. Good thinking  :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 13, 2010, 10:22:05 pm
I believe you can book the hotel room and apply the Kumoricon code to it later.

Oh, yeah, that's right. I do remember doing that, at one point anyway. Good thinking  :)

Yeah we did it once too, cause we usually book our hotel soon after the con ends. Though this year we are seriously torn between which hotel we want. Cheaper is good, but I wanna be where the main events are for fast wardrobe changes. ^_^ So we wait a while this time around.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 13, 2010, 10:24:09 pm
I believe you can book the hotel room and apply the Kumoricon code to it later.

Oh, yeah, that's right. I do remember doing that, at one point anyway. Good thinking  :)

Yeah we did it once too, cause we usually book our hotel soon after the con ends for the next year. Though this year we are seriously torn between which hotel we want. Cheaper is good, but I wanna be where the main events are for fast wardrobe changes. ^_^ So we wait a while this time around.

Yup, probably be best to wait until events are decided and announced.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: DemonSpawn on September 14, 2010, 07:02:50 am
I feel like I'm seriously missing out on something since everyone talks about '07 and '08 was my first con. XD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on September 14, 2010, 07:28:43 am
Well, 2007 was the last (and first) time Kumoricon was in Vancouver, so that's why you've been seeing that a lot.  There's going to be lots of comparing and preparing...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on September 14, 2010, 10:02:59 am
I feel like I'm seriously missing out on something since everyone talks about '07 and '08 was my first con. XD

Look for "Kumoricon 2007" on Youtube, there's quite a few videos of cosplay skits and some outdoor stuff that gives a good glimpse of the hotel and surrounding area.

Not to rub anything in your face, but you missed a good year, but worry not! We're going back, haha
Also (if curious enough) you can also look at the Pocket Guide from 2007 to see exactly what was going on....if that kind of thing interests you, heh.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: thesirensings on September 14, 2010, 11:46:39 am
I feel like I'm seriously missing out on something since everyone talks about '07 and '08 was my first con. XD
I'm missing out on more. My first con was in '09. The Portland Hilton's all I've ever known. Except for Itazura-con, but that was miniscule and died. ;-;
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rathany on September 14, 2010, 11:51:34 am
I feel like I'm seriously missing out on something since everyone talks about '07 and '08 was my first con. XD
I'm missing out on more. My first con was in '09. The Portland Hilton's all I've ever known. Except for Itazura-con, but that was miniscule and died. ;-;

Itazura-con?  What was that? 

Anyway, we are having a mini-event at the Vancouver location on the 30th, if you want to check out the venue.

Hrmm... maybe a bunch of us can do the between-venue-walk then and more people can see what it is like :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: thesirensings on September 14, 2010, 12:08:18 pm
I feel like I'm seriously missing out on something since everyone talks about '07 and '08 was my first con. XD
I'm missing out on more. My first con was in '09. The Portland Hilton's all I've ever known. Except for Itazura-con, but that was miniscule and died. ;-;

Itazura-con?  What was that? 

Anyway, we are having a mini-event at the Vancouver location on the 30th, if you want to check out the venue.

Hrmm... maybe a bunch of us can do the between-venue-walk then and more people can see what it is like :)
It was this tiny little thing in Medford that the anime club of either North or South Medford High (can't remember which) held in the YMCA. There were maybe 40 people there.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on September 14, 2010, 01:52:08 pm
I feel like I'm seriously missing out on something since everyone talks about '07 and '08 was my first con. XD
I'm missing out on more. My first con was in '09. The Portland Hilton's all I've ever known. Except for Itazura-con, but that was miniscule and died. ;-;

Itazura-con?  What was that? 

Anyway, we are having a mini-event at the Vancouver location on the 30th, if you want to check out the venue.

Hrmm... maybe a bunch of us can do the between-venue-walk then and more people can see what it is like :)

I know my friends and I who are going on the 30th planned to do this at somepoint
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Transimage on November 03, 2010, 04:41:15 pm
I believe you can book the hotel room and apply the Kumoricon code to it later.

Oh, yeah, that's right. I do remember doing that, at one point anyway. Good thinking  :)

Yeah we did it once too, cause we usually book our hotel soon after the con ends. Though this year we are seriously torn between which hotel we want. Cheaper is good, but I wanna be where the main events are for fast wardrobe changes. ^_^ So we wait a while this time around.

Does anyone know how much the discount usually takes off the price of a room? Or how much the discount was for last year?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on November 03, 2010, 06:34:27 pm
That kind of thing varies from year to year.  As for what the special rates are this year, I don't think that's been set-up yet.  I know the name of the person you'll want to talk to, but I don't remember what his forum name is.  You should be able to e-mail him at facilities @ kumoricon . org ; his name is Phillip.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: JeffT on November 03, 2010, 06:39:59 pm
That kind of thing varies from year to year.  As for what the special rates are this year, I don't think that's been set-up yet.  I know the name of the person you'll want to talk to, but I don't remember what his forum name is.  You should be able to e-mail him at facilities@kumoricon.org ; his name is Phillip.

Actually, it is hotel@kumoricon.org. That other email address doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on November 03, 2010, 06:44:17 pm
Really?  Huh.  Go with what Jeff said, Transimage.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Gryffinclaw Princess on November 03, 2010, 11:41:02 pm
So...I couldn't go to the 30th meet-up thing. But does anyone know which hotel will hold the major events? Like the Ball and Opening/Closing Ceremonies?
And do both hotels have a stage or just one?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on November 04, 2010, 12:26:36 am
That stuff will most likely be at the Hilton.  However, if it looks like the Red Lion will be the better option, then the Programming department (a.k.a. Jaki) will schedule it there.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: VampireFangs103 on November 04, 2010, 10:00:37 pm
woot woot! I'm su~per excited for it to be back at the Red Lion (and Hilton). :3 I loved the Red Lion, even though it's all the way in Vancouver~
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: JeffT on November 04, 2010, 10:04:07 pm
woot woot! I'm su~per excited for it to be back at the Red Lion (and Hilton). :3 I loved the Red Lion, even though it's all the way in Vancouver~

We haven't been at that particular Red Lion before. The one in 2006 was in Jantzen Beach. Nearby, and in fact, in eyesight, but it's not the same one.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: VampireFangs103 on November 04, 2010, 10:05:55 pm
woot woot! I'm su~per excited for it to be back at the Red Lion (and Hilton). :3 I loved the Red Lion, even though it's all the way in Vancouver~

We haven't been at that particular Red Lion before. The one in 2006 was in Jantzen Beach. Nearby, and in fact, in eyesight, but it's not the same one.

Ooh~ o.o Seems I got them mixed up. :3 still, the Red Lion was a nice hotel. >w> So I'm looking forward to it. =D
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on November 04, 2010, 11:37:34 pm
woot woot! I'm su~per excited for it to be back at the Red Lion (and Hilton). :3 I loved the Red Lion, even though it's all the way in Vancouver~

We haven't been at that particular Red Lion before. The one in 2006 was in Jantzen Beach. Nearby, and in fact, in eyesight, but it's not the same one.

Ooh~ o.o Seems I got them mixed up. :3 still, the Red Lion was a nice hotel. >w> So I'm looking forward to it. =D

If I'm not mistaken, though, it was where the very first MEW Con occurred.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Animeman73 on November 18, 2010, 09:34:50 pm
I recall the year I stayed at the Vancouver Hilton back in 2007. It was the first year I dove into Kumoricon head first, yes it was a glorious experience espcially with the channels that the Hilton dedicated to all anime so once I was done with panels I could slip back to my room and get more of an anime fix there. Yes, I agree with all of you 2011 will be a glorious year, a glorious one indeed and I intend to make the most of it. Again kudos to you Kumoricon staff on the wise decision making.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on November 18, 2010, 10:41:48 pm
I recall the year I stayed at the Vancouver Hilton back in 2007. It was the first year I dove into Kumoricon head first, yes it was a glorious experience espcially with the channels that the Hilton dedicated to all anime so once I was done with  panels i could slip back to my room and get more of  an anime fix there. Yes, I agree with all of you 2011 will be a glorious year, a glorious one indeed/ And i intend to make the most of it. Again kudos to you Kumoricon staff on the wise decision making.

Someone had to negotiate that with the hotel; I think that, if we're to do it again, then we'd have to have the Facilities Liaison take care of it.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Blue Leader on January 01, 2011, 07:18:26 pm
KumoriCon is in Vancouver this year? Ugh. What a pain. I though this was a Portland thing? I guess not.
Seems like K-Con is trying to compete with SakuraCon... Isn't that in Vancouver as well? Well, I definitely wont be going to Vancouver twice in one year... so I guess I'll have to decide between SakuraCon and K-Con, which I'll probably go with SakuraCon because it's bigger; which is a bummer because I didn't get to go to K-Con last year, and I might not bother this year, either...
I hope K-Con comes back to Portland. That's why I went to it, because it was local, and it was fun hanging around with other Oregonians...

I guess I'll just play it by ear and see what happens. I suppose if the Rebel Legion is invited to go than I'll head over... That'd be fun, me being in the RL and all.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: FateChooseMe on January 01, 2011, 07:28:19 pm
Blue Leader, SakuraCon is in Seattle.
Kumoricon is usually based around the Portland area,
but being in Vancouver isn't to far away. :3
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: kylite on January 01, 2011, 10:38:30 pm
its less then 1 mile over the Oregon border, seriously, deal with it LOL! The hotel rocks
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on January 02, 2011, 06:12:18 pm
KumoriCon is in Vancouver this year? Ugh. What a pain. I though this was a Portland thing? I guess not.
Seems like K-Con is trying to compete with SakuraCon... Isn't that in Vancouver as well? Well, I definitely wont be going to Vancouver twice in one year... so I guess I'll have to decide between SakuraCon and K-Con, which I'll probably go with SakuraCon because it's bigger; which is a bummer because I didn't get to go to K-Con last year, and I might not bother this year, either...
I hope K-Con comes back to Portland. That's why I went to it, because it was local, and it was fun hanging around with other Oregonians...

I guess I'll just play it by ear and see what happens. I suppose if the Rebel Legion is invited to go than I'll head over... That'd be fun, me being in the RL and all.

Well, technically, it was originally in Eugene; it has also been in Vancouver before.  Plus, Sakuracon is about 150 miles away vs. 1 mile.  There is no competition.  Even IF Kumoricon was going to be in Seattle (for some weird reason) it takes place 5 months later.  It wouldn't be a competition, but more like another opportunity to experience the joys of conventions.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Blue Leader on January 07, 2011, 02:56:24 pm
Oh, right, I think I was thinking of Seattle. Heh, nevermind. For some reason I keep getting the two mixed up, and I don't know why.

Still, I'd prefer that it stay in Portland. I mean, I want something neat that is somewhat unique to Portland. We can't even claim that we have Voodoo Doughnut anymore, because there's one in Eugene now. :P
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: shanime_panda on January 11, 2011, 04:42:39 pm
sorry if this has been posted/discussed, but does anyone have pictures or videos of these hotels? I hate traveling to somewhere I've never been before haha, so I like to get the best understanding of the layout as possible so I'll be less confused.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Titus_Love_Doll on January 11, 2011, 06:37:38 pm
both hotels are very easy to get to ladies and gents. :3 and easy to find
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on January 13, 2011, 10:43:52 pm
you can actually see them while youre coming over the bridge.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on January 14, 2011, 03:57:31 pm
sorry if this has been posted/discussed, but does anyone have pictures or videos of these hotels? I hate traveling to somewhere I've never been before haha, so I like to get the best understanding of the layout as possible so I'll be less confused.

I've provided a google map from Jantzen Beach to the Hilton.  You can kind of see the Expo Center on the bottom, and can easily see Esther Short Park by the hotel.  The Red Lion is just South of the Hilton, which you can see when you zoom in twice.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Jantzen+Beach+Center,+Portland,+OR&daddr=Hilton+Vancouver+Washington,+301+W.+6th+Street,+Vancouver,+WA+98660&hl=en&geocode=Faj9twId2fqv-CmfBLN3J6aVVDGkGOWbKpIeDw%3BFe0uuAId3yKw-CFY3yRhGWDJww&mra=ls&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=26.592957,84.287109&ie=UTF8&ll=45.616499,-122.669821&spn=0.022873,0.082312&z=14

I've also posted a photo that were provided in a thread in this area.

http://liheliso.com/buzz/imagedir/Kumoricon2007/P1070427.JPG
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: bunny_jean on January 30, 2011, 05:15:32 pm
Just curious, when will the hotel block codes be posted for all of us that like to get all of this out of the way super early?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kurokaizoku on February 15, 2011, 09:40:32 am
Oh, right, I think I was thinking of Seattle. Heh, nevermind. For some reason I keep getting the two mixed up, and I don't know why.

Still, I'd prefer that it stay in Portland. I mean, I want something neat that is somewhat unique to Portland. We can't even claim that we have Voodoo Doughnut anymore, because there's one in Eugene now. :P

The problem with staying in Portland is that Portland just does not have the space for us anymore. The jump between our numbers now and the convention center is too big to make that transition just yet.. It WILL happen if the con continues to grow, though, so please come and enjoy a mini-vacation! :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on February 15, 2011, 11:59:51 am
Just curious, when will the hotel block codes be posted for all of us that like to get all of this out of the way super early?

I'm not sure on WHERE they'll be posted, but they were announced at the general meeting this past Sunday.  I wasn't really listening to what was being said, so I can't remember the details, though.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on February 15, 2011, 01:20:01 pm
they arent on the web page yet.  Though I heard the hilton is full
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on February 15, 2011, 01:27:58 pm
I don't know if it is or not; I doubt it, since Phillip did give info for both hotels.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: bunny_jean on February 15, 2011, 07:52:21 pm
If the Hilton is full by now, and they haven't posted the group codes, that's pretty lame and upsetting, tbh.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on February 16, 2011, 01:40:45 pm
I agree.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: FateChooseMe on February 16, 2011, 02:11:56 pm
I had a friend tell me that she tried to book a room there for those dates, and she was told that they were full for those dates as well...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on February 16, 2011, 02:14:38 pm
Happens every year. They usually get more rooms opened.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: bunny_jean on February 16, 2011, 04:31:26 pm
I disagree that this happens every year. Every year I register and book a room around this time, and this is the only year that the hotel has been full by this time. Also the only year that the code hadn't been posted yet.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on February 16, 2011, 08:14:19 pm
I usually book the hotel around this time as well, but I was saying that every year word starts spreading that the hotel is booked up, and every year lo and behold, more rooms show up. I'm not saying it's not true that the hotel is full, but I'm just saying, don't get too worried yet. The Kumoricon staff have been doing this too long for something that monumentally troublesome to happen (the hotel getting booked before the code even gets released).

Then again, if that is the case, then yeah, I'll be the first to say it's messed up and should be addressed. But, that's a pretty unlikely if.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on February 16, 2011, 10:39:18 pm
Personally, I'm not even worrying about it this year.  I'll probably see if someone will let me use their room for overnight storage, but will be staying at my house.  It's about an hour away via walking; I make this walk quite a bit, in fact, if I don't take the bus.

I know that for staff rooms, they fill up quickly and are usually negotiated into getting more staff rooms.  I'm not sure about guest rooms, though.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Snorlax on February 17, 2011, 12:51:58 am
To the best of my knowledge, the Hilton has not been fully booked.  If you are feeling very anxious about booking your room, you can calling the front desk and tell them you would like to book a room for Kumoricon 2011.

In any case, the code for the Hilton will be released shortly.

Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: DancingTofu on February 17, 2011, 03:22:32 am
They're probably "full" because they've set aside a hotel block for the con which they're not making available to the general public, and con folks have been reserving rooms without the code so their reservations haven't been assessed towards the reserved hotel block; that's been the case for years prior; I'd say it's extremely unlikely that the entire hotel block is booked out before the hotel code has even been released. :P (this is assuming of course that we have a set hotel block, which I'd imagine we do)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on February 17, 2011, 08:34:00 am
there is the choice red lion or hilton,
hilton closer to main con space
red lion mini fridge and microwave....but a walk

I am really torn, food will be better with a fridge and microwave
but I will be having lets just say... super secret cosplay that will make walking a little harder then normal thats all I am saying :x
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on February 17, 2011, 10:17:10 am
you can always bring a cooler for the hilton. besides hilton has staff rooms. red lion does not... or thats how i heard it at the meeting.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Snorlax on February 17, 2011, 01:07:21 pm
hilton closer to main con

I would respectfully argue that this statement is based on a false assumption.  There is no such thing as a "main con", there is only Kumoricon, which happens to be in more than one building.  It may help to think of the convention layout this year as more like a faire or college campus.  Depending on your interests or needs, one of the hotels may prove to be more personally convenient during the convention, but the notion that one hotel is inherently superior to the other based on where we will be scheduling content is simply not true.

Also, it takes about as much time to walk between the two hotels as it does to cross (on foot) an intersection on the bus mall in downtown Portland.  Except you won't have to worry about getting hit by a train.

As for staff rates, it is true that they are only available at the Hilton, but that has nothing to do with content.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on February 17, 2011, 01:38:43 pm
I would respectfully argue that this statement is based on a false assumption.  There is no such thing as a "main con", there is only Kumoricon, which happens to be in more than one building.  It may help to think of the convention layout this year as more like a faire or college campus.  Depending on your interests or needs, one of the hotels may prove to be more personally convenient during the convention, but the notion that one hotel is inherently superior to the other based on where we will be scheduling content is simply not true.

(https://www.kumoricon.org/apps/image_proxy/image_proxy.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fi717.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww173%2Fprestonjjrtr%2FSmileys%2Fclapping-2.gif)

Also, it takes about as much time to walk between the two hotels as it does to cross (on foot) an intersection on the bus mall in downtown Portland.  Except you won't have to worry about getting hit by a train.

OR ENCOUNTERING THIS THING!

(https://www.kumoricon.org/apps/image_proxy/image_proxy.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gifbin.com%2Fbin%2F012011%2F1296151109_tennessee-titans-mascot-eats-cheerleader.gif)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on February 17, 2011, 02:18:08 pm
hilton closer to main con

I would respectfully argue that this statement is based on a false assumption.  There is no such thing as a "main con", there is only Kumoricon, which happens to be in more than one building.  It may help to think of the convention layout this year as more like a faire or college campus.  Depending on your interests or needs, one of the hotels may prove to be more personally convenient during the convention, but the notion that one hotel is inherently superior to the other based on where we will be scheduling content is simply not true.

Sorry for not being more clear.  By main con, I meant main con space, like where main events and registration was going to go on.  Doubly important as it involes my staff position. But yes one con 2 spaces, and even if one gets labled "main" it will depend on the congoers want as to what they consider main.
 

Also, it takes about as much time to walk between the two hotels as it does to cross (on foot) an intersection on the bus mall in downtown Portland.  Except you won't have to worry about getting hit by a train.
I will need to check it out next time I am there to see tho, I know it also depends on hotel room is tho the web page did meantion shuttles between hotels..
There is also always the chance for rain too, and while normally I don't mind a short walk and I LOVE walking in the rain,
Just due to this super duper secret cosplay and making it work with being staff,  I need to plan carefuly.
Failure is not an option!!! More on super secret cosplay later....its a going to be a big one  ;D but I think all this will make sense when I anounce it
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on February 17, 2011, 02:23:03 pm
I would think that IF there would be a main building, it'd probably be the Hilton, simply because it's bigger AND closer to the park.  I think it'd be kind of interesting to have Opening ceremonies at one hotel and Closing ceremonies at the other.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kizxm on February 18, 2011, 04:49:14 pm
wahhh which hotel is the aa going to be located?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on February 19, 2011, 11:50:15 am
As far as I know, nothing has been finalized as of yet.  I don't even think that they've selected the location of opening or closing ceremonies.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on February 19, 2011, 12:15:00 pm
looks like its another case of the web site being stupid, so just gotta call in and make the reservations
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kizxm on February 20, 2011, 09:34:51 pm
haha oh goodness, i m so confused as to how this whole two hotel thing is gonna play down
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on February 21, 2011, 08:42:38 pm
Just imagine all the events of the con being divided between two neighboring buildings that just happen to be two separate hotels. It's going to be that simple. You want to attend this event - go to this building. You want to attend this other event - go to this other building. It will work out, I promise you. It will all pan out.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Mew*Haruko on February 21, 2011, 08:44:08 pm
Oh this will be funn. 8D
I'm really excited. > u <
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on February 21, 2011, 08:50:33 pm
It will be nice to be back at the vancouver hilton,  the staff were so nice .(not dissing red lion I just haven't stayed there before I an sure there staff are awesome).  Gosh thinking back then I had just gotten engaged last time k-con was there, and here I am married for a couple of years. Time flies huh?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on February 24, 2011, 02:28:22 pm
>.> Uh.... just gonna book the room now and apply the code later.... rumors, though rumors of it being full is not good. So... xD

I'm assuming Hilton will hold main events cause it's bigger. Done without a fridge/microwave before so booking for there. I'd rather not walk back to my hotel late at night alone in a mini skirt or something ><
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Drauska on February 25, 2011, 10:50:56 am
I'm lovin the Red Lion.  the rooms are like half of what they are at the Hilton.  So this year I can afford a room instead of driving back and forth.  Plus it will be more fun just to stay there and meet the neighbors.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on February 25, 2011, 11:44:45 am
>.> Uh.... just gonna book the room now and apply the code later.... rumors, though rumors of it being full is not good. So... xD

Just call and it should be no problem.  for some reason web site said full and over the phone no problem.  Wouldnt be the first time a website acted stupid
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on March 28, 2011, 11:04:54 pm
>.> Uh.... just gonna book the room now and apply the code later.... rumors, though rumors of it being full is not good. So... xD

Just call and it should be no problem.  for some reason web site said full and over the phone no problem.  Wouldnt be the first time a website acted stupid

So is there a Kumoricon hotel code yet? Or should I just tell them I'm with Kumoricon?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: AllyKat on March 28, 2011, 11:27:29 pm
>.> Uh.... just gonna book the room now and apply the code later.... rumors, though rumors of it being full is not good. So... xD

Just call and it should be no problem.  for some reason web site said full and over the phone no problem.  Wouldnt be the first time a website acted stupid

So is there a Kumoricon hotel code yet? Or should I just tell them I'm with Kumoricon?

Go ahead and call. Thats the easiest way.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Roddy Manic on March 29, 2011, 06:55:56 am
Bummer. I liked the Portland Hilton for one big fact. It was in Portland. Easy to get to and I knew the area reasonably well. 2011 I was hoping to bring my son. But if I have to have a hotel I might need to have roommates. And I am sorry, but rooming with someone I do not know when my son is in the room is just not a good idea. Maybe if he was like 16, but he is only 9. Bummer. I either can't take my son, which he will be sad about, or I have to find a way to earn enough money to have a room without roommates.  

Then, also... which hotel? If I can take my son I would want the cheaper one. But if the events me and him want to do are at the Hilton then I would want to be in there. Any idea where the rpg table top gaming will be? ^^; or the game room will be?

Edit: Son talked me into taking him. But now I need to come up with about $300.00 for the hotel. ><;; Evilness of a super cute son.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on March 29, 2011, 12:23:55 pm
>.> Uh.... just gonna book the room now and apply the code later.... rumors, though rumors of it being full is not good. So... xD

Just call and it should be no problem.  for some reason web site said full and over the phone no problem.  Wouldnt be the first time a website acted stupid

So is there a Kumoricon hotel code yet? Or should I just tell them I'm with Kumoricon?

Go ahead and call. Thats the easiest way.

So is calling and mentioning Kumoricon the same as going through the website using the yet-released Kumoricon group code? Are all the people who have already registered this way put into the Kumoricon block (even though it isn't officially opened yet)? Just wondering if there is going to be any point to the group code when it's released if the block is already filling up.

I hate asking questions like this, because I know your positions are hard enough without anyone nagging you. I just had to get the question out though.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on March 29, 2011, 02:36:14 pm
Bummer. I liked the Portland Hilton for one big fact. It was in Portland. Easy to get to and I knew the area reasonably well. 2011 I was hoping to bring my son. But if I have to have a hotel I might need to have roommates. And I am sorry, but rooming with someone I do not know when my son is in the room is just not a good idea. Maybe if he was like 16, but he is only 9. Bummer. I either can't take my son, which he will be sad about, or I have to find a way to earn enough money to have a room without roommates.  

Then, also... which hotel? If I can take my son I would want the cheaper one. But if the events me and him want to do are at the Hilton then I would want to be in there. Any idea where the rpg table top gaming will be? ^^; or the game room will be?

Edit: Son talked me into taking him. But now I need to come up with about $300.00 for the hotel. ><;; Evilness of a super cute son.

Why not just use the bus system to go to and from home?  I suppose it'd depend on what part of the Portland area you live in...

I do know that, with the current schedule system, if you get to the correct bus stop by 11:44, you'll be able to get back into Portland just fine.  It's really close to the Hilton, about 1.5-2 blocks away.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: steelychan on March 29, 2011, 04:11:47 pm
Bummer. I liked the Portland Hilton for one big fact. It was in Portland. Easy to get to and I knew the area reasonably well. 2011 I was hoping to bring my son. But if I have to have a hotel I might need to have roommates. And I am sorry, but rooming with someone I do not know when my son is in the room is just not a good idea. Maybe if he was like 16, but he is only 9. Bummer. I either can't take my son, which he will be sad about, or I have to find a way to earn enough money to have a room without roommates.  

Then, also... which hotel? If I can take my son I would want the cheaper one. But if the events me and him want to do are at the Hilton then I would want to be in there. Any idea where the rpg table top gaming will be? ^^; or the game room will be?

Edit: Son talked me into taking him. But now I need to come up with about $300.00 for the hotel. ><;; Evilness of a super cute son.
Why not look at comfort inn? They are reasonably cheap and close by. which reminds me... ALLYKAT!!!! please give me a call. <3
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Roddy Manic on March 29, 2011, 10:32:23 pm
I live in Beaverton, just to get to red castle it can sometimes take up to 2 hours. (when my gps says it takes 25 minutes... LIES!)  I do not want to travel that much every day... about 2 hours min every day there 2 back. so 4 hours every day min. Can't have fun after all that driving and the total gas wise would probably cost close to the same I will be spending on the hotel. Number 2 reason, I like supporting the hotels that the con is in. This will be like a vacation for my son before he starts school back up, and the first con he will be at for the full con, so making it fun for him is important. 9 year olds do not want to travel 2 hours every day for something.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on March 31, 2011, 12:33:53 pm
I live in Beaverton, just to get to red castle it can sometimes take up to 2 hours. (when my gps says it takes 25 minutes... LIES!)  I do not want to travel that much every day... about 2 hours min every day there 2 back. so 4 hours every day min. Can't have fun after all that driving and the total gas wise would probably cost close to the same I will be spending on the hotel. Number 2 reason, I like supporting the hotels that the con is in. This will be like a vacation for my son before he starts school back up, and the first con he will be at for the full con, so making it fun for him is important. 9 year olds do not want to travel 2 hours every day for something.

Okay... that makes sense.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on April 04, 2011, 08:02:32 am
So, I just figured out the Kumoricon room code.

KUMORICON ROOM CODE FOR HILTON: "KUM"

There you go.

Let it be known I just found this out on my own.

So hacking cookies to me.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Animeman73 on April 04, 2011, 05:07:39 pm
Hey EveofAbyss, thanks for the info I just used the code and I have my room all set up for Kumoriconm So now I can get back to life.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on April 05, 2011, 09:12:45 am
Yeah, no problem. It is a huge relief finally getting that out of the way, the right way.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Kimiski on April 05, 2011, 10:19:23 am
Isn't it KUM every year anyway? xD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on April 05, 2011, 12:00:59 pm
No, it has been KUMO a couple times also.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Snorlax on April 05, 2011, 01:35:57 pm
I suppose you could use the same old, stale hotel code to book a room at the Hilton just like every other year OR you could wait a day and book a room at the Hilton using an epic addition to our website!

Also, if you are having problems with booking a room at either of our hotels, please email me at hotel@kumoricon.org.  I'm not on the forums much, so I won't know you are having problems if you don't tell me.

EDIT: You can now book a room at the Hilton at the convention rate using the Kumoricon website!  Please visit the "Location" page for more information.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: acton on April 17, 2011, 09:34:46 pm
As for the drive, it not bad from Hillsboro about a half an hour, as ling there no accident or bridge lift. Friday night and Monday after noon may be a problem. I plan to Commute in except if I can scratch up some cash for Sunday night stay. (SO I can stay up late and do not worry about falling asleep behind the wheel. )
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Roddy Manic on April 26, 2011, 01:01:16 am
30 minutes from Hillsboro? Do you speed? I have never got to Portland from Hillsboro, let alone Washington, in 30 minutes. 35 minutes once from my dad's work in Hillsboro to Red Castle in Portland, but never faster then that.

I am starting to like the location though. So many little flaws. (some that are easy to fix though, like food tax. Lots of ways to work around that flaw.) But so many pluses. Some pluses don't help me any, but they will help the con to grow and that is always a cool thing to watch happen.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Rei on April 27, 2011, 07:45:57 am
Seriously? Isn't anyone else just a little pissed they moved it back to Vancouver? Last time I checked, KumoriCon was billed as Oregon's main anime convention. Hate to break it to you, but even if it's right across the river, Vancouver is not in Oregon.

Have it where you (I'm not sure who "you" would be, whoever decides the location I suppose) like, just stop calling it Oregon's convention. Washington has their con, it's SakuraCon, yes it's in Seattle miles away but they've got theirs. We don't need a SakuraCon part two. I find it hard to believe they couldn't find another meeting place/hotel or work with the downtown Portland Hilton to keep it in Portland. Extremely frustrating...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on April 27, 2011, 10:11:06 am
Seriously? Isn't anyone else just a little pissed they moved it back to Vancouver?

No. Not at all. I'm overjoyed, actually. The Vancouver Hilton is prime territory for Kumoricon. The hotel is spacious, and it is in a wide, accommodating area. The space worked fantastically in 2007, and I am very excited to see the con returning there. As far as keeping Kumoricon in Oregon because it is "Oregon's Convention", if you're willing that Kumoricon (and all its attendees) suffer in an inadequate space simply for the sake of "keeping it in Oregon", I hope you never get the opportunity to make these decisions, because you're complaining for all the wrong reasons. The Vancouver Hilton and its surrounding area is a perfect fit for Kumoricon, and has been proven to serve as such. These state loyalties get us nowhere if they only serve to hinder Kumoricon in its growth and in its means to provide the perfect experience for its attendees.

In short: look for reasons to appreciate it, not reasons to groan about it - because more often than not, your reasons are silly anyway.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on April 27, 2011, 02:00:02 pm
Seriously? Isn't anyone else just a little pissed they moved it back to Vancouver? Last time I checked, KumoriCon was billed as Oregon's main anime convention. Hate to break it to you, but even if it's right across the river, Vancouver is not in Oregon.

Imagine how some of us Washingtonians feel.  Because of how close we are to Portland, our sources of news are Portland-based.  Most of us know more about Oregon politics, news, and laws than we do our own state.  I see 10 times more University of Oregon shirts, flags, and other merchandise than Washington and Washington State combined.  When Seattle had an NBA team, any and all of my basketball-fan friends thought it was insulting that I was a SuperSonics fan rather than a Trail Blazer fan.

Either way, Vancouver and Portland are pretty much intertwined.  Southwest Washington plays a strong role in Portland's successes and businesses; Kumoricon is no exception.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: JeffT on April 27, 2011, 02:04:05 pm
Have it where you (I'm not sure who "you" would be, whoever decides the location I suppose) like, just stop calling it Oregon's convention.

You mean, like the con did stop calling itself Oregon's convention? Seriously, we pay attention to these details. Never mind that it is a few miles from its previous location, and is very close to its same fandom. Whether it crossed a border (which itself divides a major metropolitan area) is meaningless.

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We don't need a SakuraCon part two.

If you define a con by what side of a state border it is on (not even its actual broad geographic location), then yes. If you define it by continuity in staff, programming, character--then you have nothing to worry about.

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I find it hard to believe they couldn't find another meeting place/hotel or work with the downtown Portland Hilton to keep it in Portland. Extremely frustrating...

If you knew more about what is involved in choosing a location for 5000 people, you might think differently. The number of venues that almost fits us can be counted on less than one hand. When you start looking at the logistics of each one, you see that even some of those don't work. Other split options were considered as well.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Gryffinclaw Princess on April 27, 2011, 02:16:11 pm
Wow Rei, really? :/
Um yeah... You don't just go up to a hotel and say. "Hey...we want our convention here. kthnxbye."

What is around the hotel chosen? Guests can't just go around starving or living off high priced hotel food.
How many events are there? A hotel with a small number of rooms won't work for panels.
How many attendees? The higher that number, the more room you need for them to move around in.
How much money do we have? If the con doesn't have a lot of money, they can't go too high on the price of where they want to have it.
Who wins the bid? I'm going to give a small assumption this is how part of it maybe works?? I know many businesses do a bid which is where they contact the possible people they want to work with and they start out at a price. The people go lower on the price until they are the lowest price and the person who put out the bid chooses them as the winner.

We had a contract with the Hilton for two years and we did our two years there. But the Hilton wasn't the best choice for KCon. The first year the employees treated us all very poorly and weren't very helpful about anything. The second year things were better but you could feel some of the tension around certain people. It's a great area around the hotel just like at the DoubleTree in 08 but when you grow in numbers, you need to grow in area.
A two hotel stretch is a great idea and while I haven't been to the area, I'm sure it's a good stretch to make.


Yeah, KCon won't be in Portland THIS year but that doesn't mean that next year it won't be. It's been in Vancouver before and nothing has changed. If you're worried about taxes look at your ID. If you're an oregon resident just flash your ID when you go to shops outside of con and they should be able to take off the taxes for you. If you're not...you should be used to taxes anyways. :/
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on April 27, 2011, 02:27:48 pm
If you're worried about taxes look at your ID. If you're an oregon resident just flash your ID when you go to shops outside of con and they should be able to take off the taxes for you. If you're not...you should be used to taxes anyways. :/

That doesn't apply to eateries.  If you go to a store and buy a can of chili, yes, no tax.  If you go to a restaurant and buy a bowl of chili that they've prepared, no, pay tax.  The law "basically" says that if it's something that you can take home and use it there (such as appliances, foods you prepare at home, and books), then you pay the taxes that apply to your home (in Oregon's case, none).  However, if it's something consumable that the shop has made there, you have to pay the taxes of where you're at.  When I worked for Taco Bell, I've had Oregon customers yelling at me because I understood the laws and told them WHY they still had to pay 8¢ for their taco.  Also, I've been told that "legally" Washingtonians still need to pay their sales taxes when they buy things in Oregon.  Apparently, they need to mail a check somewhere, or something like that (I avoid the confusion and just buy things in Washington, if I can).
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Gryffinclaw Princess on April 27, 2011, 02:30:50 pm
If you're worried about taxes look at your ID. If you're an oregon resident just flash your ID when you go to shops outside of con and they should be able to take off the taxes for you. If you're not...you should be used to taxes anyways. :/

That doesn't apply to eateries.  If you go to a store and buy a can of chili, yes, no tax.  If you go to a restaurant and buy a bowl of chili that they've prepared, no, pay tax.  The law "basically" says that if it's something that you can take home and use it there (such as appliances, foods you prepare at home, and books), then you pay the taxes that apply to your home (in Oregon's case, none).  However, if it's something consumable that the shop has made there, you have to pay the taxes of where you're at.  When I worked for Taco Bell, I've had Oregon customers yelling at me because I understood the laws and told them WHY they still had to pay 8¢ for their taco.  Also, I've been told that "legally" Washingtonians still need to pay their sales taxes when they buy things in Oregon.  Apparently, they need to mail a check somewhere, or something like that (I avoid the confusion and just buy things in Washington, if I can).

That's why I said shops and not food places. :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on April 27, 2011, 02:34:20 pm
I was mainly saying it to add to the point.  Like I said, some Oregonians don't get the difference (just like some Washingtonians don't).
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Neko_Chan on April 28, 2011, 11:22:42 am
To clarify- I read on the Hotel Info on Kcon.org, saying that there are Quad Rooms in the Hilton, but I cannot find anything that says about 4 bed in a room on the Hilton website. I was just making sure that there are rooms with 4 beds, correct?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: JeffT on April 28, 2011, 03:12:04 pm
To clarify- I read on the Hotel Info on Kcon.org, saying that there are Quad Rooms in the Hilton, but I cannot find anything that says about 4 bed in a room on the Hilton website. I was just making sure that there are rooms with 4 beds, correct?

That means number of people in the room, not beds.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on April 28, 2011, 04:06:23 pm
Yeah, I don't think there are too many hotels in general that actually have 4 beds in them (but that would be pretty cool).
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: @random on April 28, 2011, 05:46:59 pm
Wow Rei, really? :/
Um yeah... You don't just go up to a hotel and say. "Hey...we want our convention here. kthnxbye."

What is around the hotel chosen? Guests can't just go around starving or living off high priced hotel food.
How many events are there? A hotel with a small number of rooms won't work for panels.
How many attendees? The higher that number, the more room you need for them to move around in.
How much money do we have? If the con doesn't have a lot of money, they can't go too high on the price of where they want to have it.
Who wins the bid? I'm going to give a small assumption this is how part of it maybe works?? I know many businesses do a bid which is where they contact the possible people they want to work with and they start out at a price. The people go lower on the price until they are the lowest price and the person who put out the bid chooses them as the winner.

We had a contract with the Hilton for two years and we did our two years there. But the Hilton wasn't the best choice for KCon. The first year the employees treated us all very poorly and weren't very helpful about anything. The second year things were better but you could feel some of the tension around certain people. It's a great area around the hotel just like at the DoubleTree in 08 but when you grow in numbers, you need to grow in area.
A two hotel stretch is a great idea and while I haven't been to the area, I'm sure it's a good stretch to make.


Yeah, KCon won't be in Portland THIS year but that doesn't mean that next year it won't be. It's been in Vancouver before and nothing has changed. If you're worried about taxes look at your ID. If you're an oregon resident just flash your ID when you go to shops outside of con and they should be able to take off the taxes for you. If you're not...you should be used to taxes anyways. :/

*tries to find the Like button to click on for this post*
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Neko_Chan on April 29, 2011, 08:18:11 am
To clarify- I read on the Hotel Info on Kcon.org, saying that there are Quad Rooms in the Hilton, but I cannot find anything that says about 4 bed in a room on the Hilton website. I was just making sure that there are rooms with 4 beds, correct?

That means number of people in the room, not beds.
Ohhh, so is it similar to apartment occupacy? Its going to be me, V., L., A. and her boyfriend (5 people total) would be sharing a Quad w/ three beds... Would that be OK- or are only 4 allowed? We do *not* plan on having people sleeping on the floor. Been there, done that, bad idea all around lol.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: JeffT on April 29, 2011, 06:48:31 pm
Its going to be me, V., L., A. and her boyfriend (5 people total) would be sharing a Quad w/ three beds... Would that be OK- or are only 4 allowed? We do *not* plan on having people sleeping on the floor. Been there, done that, bad idea all around lol.

Usually, hotels only allow four per room. Hotels will enforce this to varying degrees.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Neko_Chan on April 29, 2011, 08:49:27 pm
Its going to be me, V., L., A. and her boyfriend (5 people total) would be sharing a Quad w/ three beds... Would that be OK- or are only 4 allowed? We do *not* plan on having people sleeping on the floor. Been there, done that, bad idea all around lol.

Usually, hotels only allow four per room. Hotels will enforce this to varying degrees.
Oh, ok. Well in that case, I never said anything about 5 people in the room! :) ha-ha
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on April 29, 2011, 09:03:56 pm
Its going to be me, V., L., A. and her boyfriend (5 people total) would be sharing a Quad w/ three beds... Would that be OK- or are only 4 allowed? We do *not* plan on having people sleeping on the floor. Been there, done that, bad idea all around lol.

Usually, hotels only allow four per room. Hotels will enforce this to varying degrees.
Oh, ok. Well in that case, I never said anything about 5 people in the room! :) ha-ha

You know, it might be possible to ask them upfront.  I'd imagine that if you're honest about it and if all five of you contribute to the bill, they'd probably allow you to go for it.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: JeffT on April 29, 2011, 11:10:11 pm
You know, it might be possible to ask them upfront.  I'd imagine that if you're honest about it and if all five of you contribute to the bill, they'd probably allow you to go for it.

Most hotels probably won't make an exception, because the restriction is due to fire code.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Neko_Chan on April 30, 2011, 08:52:31 am
You know, it might be possible to ask them upfront.  I'd imagine that if you're honest about it and if all five of you contribute to the bill, they'd probably allow you to go for it.

Most hotels probably won't make an exception, because the restriction is due to fire code.
Ok, Thank you! I'll keep this all in mind when booking.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on April 30, 2011, 01:09:31 pm
You know, it might be possible to ask them upfront.  I'd imagine that if you're honest about it and if all five of you contribute to the bill, they'd probably allow you to go for it.

Most hotels probably won't make an exception, because the restriction is due to fire code.
Ok, Thank you! I'll keep this all in mind when booking.

Good lukc, Neko!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Neko_Chan on April 30, 2011, 03:52:01 pm
You know, it might be possible to ask them upfront.  I'd imagine that if you're honest about it and if all five of you contribute to the bill, they'd probably allow you to go for it.

Most hotels probably won't make an exception, because the restriction is due to fire code.
Ok, Thank you! I'll keep this all in mind when booking.
Good lukc, Neko!
If anyone else was wondering, max number of beds is 2. I think you can request a roll-away bed, but it'd only be a twin.

Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Shadow on April 30, 2011, 06:28:43 pm
I personally LOVED the Vancouver Hilton, and am really looking forward to going back there again. It was amazing having the park right across from the hotel, which kept the crowding factor down and allowed for more breath-ability. There were some great food locations very close to the hotel as well.

The Red Lion was great too, I'm interested in seeing how the convention will be incorporated into the two hotels.

I really have a good feeling about this year. :3
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: tomsaiyuk@aol.com on May 11, 2011, 04:03:23 am
Vancouver ? NOOOOOOOO! Too bad, i only live 6 blockd from the downtown Portland location from last year :(
 Is anyone going to Wondercon this weekend ?  I guess I will start making plans for Vancouver now.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on May 11, 2011, 06:04:03 am
If you only lived six blocks from the downtown Portland location, then you don't live much farther from the Vancouver location. We all keep saying the same thing: stop stressing the difference of cities. It is in Vancouver, but it is no farther from the metro area than anything else. It is just across the river, barely 15 minutes from downtown, so stop stressing, really.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: JeffT on May 11, 2011, 06:06:37 am
If you only lived six blocks from the downtown Portland location, then you don't live much farther from the Vancouver location. We all keep saying the same thing: stop stressing the difference of cities. It is in Vancouver, but it is no farther from the metro area than anything else. It is just across the river, barely 15 minutes from downtown, so stop stressing, really.

To be fair, six blocks would have meant you don't need to get a hotel room, but it's still basically like staying at the con.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on May 11, 2011, 06:08:37 am
That's true. I didn't consider the benefit of not needing to room at the hotel to attend. But still, I'd encourage everyone to not exaggerate the distance of the Vancouver Hilton just because it is technically in Vancouver. It's rather close.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: superjaz on May 11, 2011, 07:21:56 am
There is now a plaid pantry really close to the hilton too.  :D 
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on May 11, 2011, 01:10:05 pm
Yeah, I like to go there every time I go cash my paychecks.  I told the lady about Kumoricon, and she said that if I could, she'd like to know what sort of things congoers might be interested in getting, so she can stock up for the weekend.  (I can see energy drinks, oatmeal, and chips being in, but more input would be nice...)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Animeman73 on May 13, 2011, 08:55:08 pm
Hey Washougal Otaku that's actually not too shabby an idea. Hotels always appreciate information on what the congoers like so they can be prepared. I'm making it a personal mission once I have information on the locatiKns of kumoricon this year to explore the con levels on Day 0 so I can get a feel for things as well as check out the area when I get the chance to see what places to eat there are. And so help me this year I WILL by hook or by crook get to that Burgerville out there. MUST...HAVE...PEPPER BACON TILLAMOOK CHEESEBURGER!!!!!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: EveofAbyss on May 13, 2011, 09:22:53 pm
There I go again, reaching for the nonexistent Facebook 'like' button to show my appreciation for your Burgerville comment.  ;D

Yeah, getting familiarized with the con-space, can't stress enough how much better that makes the con-experience. When you know where you want to go, where you want to be, where the things you're interested in are in relation to other things...it's a must.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 location
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on May 14, 2011, 10:32:29 am
And so help me this year i WILL by hook or by crook get to that Burgerville out there. MUST...HAVE...PEPPER BACON TILLAMOOK CHEESEBURGER!!!!!

You know, I think I'll hold you up to that and take you there myself!  (Well, at least go with; you're paying for your own, anyways).  I love the Burgerville in downtown...
Title: Food Options in Vancouver
Post by: garfieldelric on July 05, 2011, 01:23:37 am
I am just wondering..... what are my food options in the Vancouver area?

I know, per google maps, there's a Joe's Crab Shack and other stuff..... what else ya got? Any fast food? Please help me!



(Note: Merged in from a separate thread. ~randompvg)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: EveofAbyss on July 05, 2011, 10:23:54 am
As far as fast food goes, in the immediate vicinity there is a Subway and a Quizno's within a block of the Hilton. There are also a ton of restaurants within about 4 blocks of the Hilton, so...yeah, lots of options.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on July 05, 2011, 05:15:57 pm
This also depends on how far away you're willing to travel.  You can take 2 different buses that will each take you to the closest McDonald's (or you could walk for about half an hour; I do it a lot, myself).  There's also a Burgerville about 10 blocks away or so, the very same one that Animeman73 and I were talking about earlier in this thread.

Note to Eve: There is no Quizno's in the area anymore.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: EveofAbyss on July 05, 2011, 05:28:21 pm
Oooh, gotcha, thanks for the correction, Washougal.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on July 05, 2011, 05:33:19 pm
Not a problem, Eve!  That's what friends are for! ;D
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: shikyo on July 30, 2011, 08:14:29 pm
I go to Esther short all the time since the farmers market is there so I'm excited. But that is what people are forgetting, farmers market will be going on so that means there will be a LOT of food to choose from. I eat there when ever I'm there and they have awesome CHEAP food! :D They even have a whole row dedicated to making and selling food, so fear not when it comes to food!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: EveofAbyss on July 30, 2011, 09:01:53 pm
I'm wondering if the Farmer's Market may be postponed Labor Day weekend, because there definitely wasn't anything there in 2007. Doesn't mean it won't be there this year, of course, but I can see how they would not do the event on such a big holiday. Who knows, though.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: bunny_jean on July 30, 2011, 09:29:23 pm
I remember it being there the last time con was in Vancouver. It was right next to the park.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on July 31, 2011, 12:22:59 am
It will still be there this year.  In fact, I went by it earlier today; it was BUSY! :D
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: EveofAbyss on July 31, 2011, 07:31:48 am
Oh, I must just be mistaken then.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: superjaz on July 31, 2011, 12:24:26 pm
Thanks for the updates of whats really in the area washy
Yeah a lot of online maps show the quiznos there still very annoying, as I would prefer it to subway when it comes to hot sammiches.
only prob with subway is I like my deli meat cold which you can't eat while preggers because of chance of listeria :(
Off topic but I would really love an awesome cold ham sandwich
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Neko_Chan on July 31, 2011, 01:24:32 pm
Thanks for the updates of whats really in the area washy
Yeah a lot of online maps show the quiznos there still very annoying, as I would prefer it to subway when it comes to hot sammiches.
only prob with subway is I like my deli meat cold which you can't eat while preggers because of chance of listeria :(
Off topic but I would really love an awesome cold ham sandwich
I guess we know what we're getting you once you pop! :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on July 31, 2011, 10:40:57 pm
Thanks for the updates of whats really in the area washy

My pleasure!  In fact, I've been working on the con book map of the area.  Lotta work...

only prob with subway is I like my deli meat cold which you can't eat while preggers because of chance of listeria :(

Really?  I just learned something...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: garfieldelric on August 08, 2011, 03:58:56 pm
Also.... I was just wondering- aren't there any supermarkets in the vicinity of the con sites, like Safeway or anything like that?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on August 08, 2011, 04:23:37 pm
There's a Plaid Pantry and a place called Vancouver Food Cooperative.  There's a Chevron, as well.  Those are the only ones that I can think of right now, however, if you're okay with taking buses, I can tell you which ones will take you straight to the closest Safeways.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: @random on August 11, 2011, 03:25:38 pm
Does anyone know for sure whether free/cheap parking is available in walking distance? I just called the Hilton, and they charge $12 a day. XP

It'd be nice to be able to drive elsewhere if needed, but I'm fine with leaving my car somewhere in <10 minutes' walk or bus ride for the whole con.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: miko murphy on August 11, 2011, 07:32:48 pm
Does anyone know for sure whether free/cheap parking is available in walking distance? I just called the Hilton, and they charge $12 a day. XP

It'd be nice to be able to drive elsewhere if needed, but I'm fine with leaving my car somewhere in <10 minutes' walk or bus ride for the whole con.
isnt the red lion parking lot free? I just hope its not to full.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: bunny_jean on August 11, 2011, 07:34:31 pm
I think it's free only to people staying in the hotel.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on August 12, 2011, 11:52:57 am
There's a parking lot next to the Regal Cinemas that will be free on Saturday & Sunday.  As for Friday and Monday, it'll be $3.95 each.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: @random on August 12, 2011, 01:47:27 pm
Nifty, thank you much. (^_^)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on August 12, 2011, 05:24:59 pm
^ You're welcome!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Kyoko Raybe on August 14, 2011, 04:33:27 pm
Does anyone know if there is a ball again this year? And if so when? I can't seem to find it on the site anywhere...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: xxxchihiroxxx on August 14, 2011, 05:11:46 pm
since were talking about location here, any one know the rules on booking a hotel? Already got mine booked and as far as I know you have to be 18 and up to do it (which everyone in my group is) but some one just told me hotels will say 21, even if the law says 18.

Anyone got some info to clear this up? Last time we were at the hilton I didnt have a room.... so I dont really know for sure.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: miko murphy on August 14, 2011, 08:04:05 pm
I just turned 20 and have booked my room for con a total of 3 times. twice for kumori and once for sakura. so im sure you are alright to book it.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on August 14, 2011, 08:41:01 pm
Does anyone know if there is a ball again this year? And if so when? I can't seem to find it on the site anywhere...

There will be no ball this year.  There is an area where people have been talking about doing an unofficial one (http://www.kumoricon.org/forums/index.php?topic=15736.0).
Title: Parking and Arrival Time!!!
Post by: HalcyonFour on August 14, 2011, 08:48:01 pm
Yo yo yo! I am wondering whether anyone can help me out!

I pre-registered for the convention (got my badge a week ago XD) and I was wondering what time I should arrive at the pre-registration line? 6AM? 5 AM? I know that when I went to AnimeExpo years ago we had to get there hours early to wait hours in line so we could shave hours off of our waiting time. I don't know the area and I'll be driving with my brother from two hours away, so I am concerned about not getting sleep. Also, if we already got into one hotel, will we also have to wait hours to get into the next one?!

A second burning question I have involves parking. The hotel I am staying at is about a 20 minute drive away from the Kumoricon site(s), so I was wondering whether anyone knows about any parking sites nearby?

That is all. If anyone can help, I would GREATLY appreciate it. Sooooooo excited, and this will be my brother's first convention!!!   ;D



Title: Re: Parking and Arrival Time!!!
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on August 14, 2011, 09:37:57 pm
There's a garage on 8th between C and Broadway.  Their rates are $3.95 on Mondays through Fridays and free on Saturdays and Sundays.
Title: Re: Parking and Arrival Time!!!
Post by: nikkiolie on August 14, 2011, 09:47:44 pm
If you are pre-registered I strongly suggest that you go on Friday to pick up your badge. Its only for those that have pre-registered and you can check in and not miss anything that happens during the first day on Saturday. Pre-reg on Friday starts in the afternoon like 3-5 ish area.

If you are unable to go on Friday then 5 am or 6am sounds good for Saturday. As for parking are you staying at a hotel and if so which one? The red lion offers free parking to hotel guests.
Title: Re: Parking and Arrival Time!!!
Post by: HalcyonFour on August 16, 2011, 12:26:26 am
If you are pre-registered I strongly suggest that you go on Friday to pick up your badge. Its only for those that have pre-registered and you can check in and not miss anything that happens during the first day on Saturday. Pre-reg on Friday starts in the afternoon like 3-5 ish area.

If you are unable to go on Friday then 5 am or 6am sounds good for Saturday. As for parking are you staying at a hotel and if so which one? The red lion offers free parking to hotel guests.

Thanks for responding! My hotel is about a twenty minute drive from the Kumoricon hotels, so I will have to find parking nearby. I don't mind paying daily fees though. And I don't think I'll be able to go Friday. I live two hours away from Vancouver, and Driving six hours in two days is going to be unpleasant.

If I check in on Saturday do I have to check in the other two days as well?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: EveofAbyss on August 16, 2011, 02:47:21 am
Nope, once you check in you're checked-in for the weekend. (If it were any other way none of us would ever get to do anything but wait in line, lol)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: HalcyonFour on August 16, 2011, 01:05:30 pm
Nope, once you check in you're checked-in for the weekend. (If it were any other way none of us would ever get to do anything but wait in line, lol)

HECK yes! Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: EveofAbyss on August 16, 2011, 01:09:20 pm
You're very welcome!  ;D
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: veraca on August 18, 2011, 05:58:34 pm
The check in basically is getting your badge (if you don't have it already) and showing your ID to prove you are who your badge says and getting the sticker on it to prove you've paid. :)
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: acton on August 25, 2011, 08:41:26 pm
Anybody know  how are the food prices at the Hilton I might want to look into an informal four breakfast meet at the hilton for us older attendees.

Just a word of the wise: Will Kumoricn have full access at the Red Lion; I remember at mewcon Red lion turned the restaurant to a wannabe restricted access (IE. dress code) night club.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: PaperRoxas on August 25, 2011, 11:52:59 pm
I think if you go to the Hilton webpage they should have the restaurant menu with prices...I know red lion has theirs posted.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: PaperRoxas on August 25, 2011, 11:55:43 pm
There's a Plaid Pantry and a place called Vancouver Food Cooperative.  There's a Chevron, as well.  Those are the only ones that I can think of right now, however, if you're okay with taking buses, I can tell you which ones will take you straight to the closest Safeways.
how close are those for those on foot?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on August 26, 2011, 01:22:04 pm
Plaid Pantry and the Vancouver Food Cooperative are incredibly close.  PP is a block away from the Hilton, at the corner of 6th and Washington.  The VFC is about in between the two hotels; it's on 4th Street, in between Columbia and Washington.  I'm guessing on the distance for Chevron, but it's about 8-10 blocks North, and along Broadway Street, which is two blocks East of Washington (the street between them is Main Street, BTW).  As for Safeway, I'd guess one as being about 1.5 hours of walking, and the other over 2, easily.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: PaperRoxas on August 26, 2011, 04:09:04 pm
Thank you~
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on August 26, 2011, 06:28:54 pm
You're welcome!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: acton on August 26, 2011, 09:15:46 pm
I think if you go to the Hilton webpage they should have the restaurant menu with prices...I know red lion has theirs posted.
I looking for the prices
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: superjaz on August 26, 2011, 09:46:56 pm
I think if you go to the Hilton webpage they should have the restaurant menu with prices...I know red lion has theirs posted.
I looking for the prices
http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hotel/PDXVAHH-Hilton-Vancouver-Washington-Washington/dining.do#2

Yeah hilton doesn't have the prices online, I do remember the hilton is pricy but tasty. 
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on August 27, 2011, 12:05:13 pm
^ Some could possibly check today during the meeting...
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: miko murphy on August 28, 2011, 11:40:46 am
during the meeting they said someting about getting a special price on the hotel food in one of them, to bad I cant remember which one.  ??? but I know Im going to eat at the red lion thanks to some special names of things.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Washougal_Otaku on August 28, 2011, 02:29:54 pm
^ That was the Red Lion they were talking about.  I laughed when I heard Pidgy Wings, because my girlfriend & I, along with a couple of her co-workers, call the cheap chicken sandwiches at Arby's Pidgy Sammiches.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Gryffinclaw Princess on August 31, 2011, 02:50:23 pm
This has probably been asked before but I don't want to go read through all the pages. DX
What does the Red Lion rooms come with? Mini Fridge? Microwave?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: TalaRedWolf33 on September 03, 2011, 07:06:42 am
Can someone tell me where its free to park?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Kimiski on February 24, 2012, 04:39:44 pm
So.... I e-mailed Hilton and asked them about parking. They said, " Since our parking lot will be used for Kumoricon events, and the other lots are not run by the hotel, we won’t be the ones handling any of those arrangements, it will go directly through your Kumoricon team."

What does this mean for parking? What did people who kept a car with them during the convention do about parking and price? I've only ever been dropped off, but this year we need to keep a vehicle with us.


Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: AllyKat on February 27, 2012, 09:43:19 am
So.... I e-mailed Hilton and asked them about parking. They said, " Since our parking lot will be used for Kumoricon events, and the other lots are not run by the hotel, we won’t be the ones handling any of those arrangements, it will go directly through your Kumoricon team."

What does this mean for parking? What did people who kept a car with them during the convention do about parking and price? I've only ever been dropped off, but this year we need to keep a vehicle with us.


The Facilities Team is working on new and better ways to solidify Parking for convention guests. Be advised that the Red Lion Hotel will be checking to make sure you are a guest of the Hotel and giving out Vouchers or Passes for entry into their parking lot most likely (as this is what they did last year) so make sure you are a guest there before trying to park in their lot. There are a few other lots in the area, and as the details get confirmed I assure you that the Facilities team will post them so you can enjoy the con without worrying about your vehicle.

The Publicity team is also working on a "How to get to Con" video which will include a few routes on Public Transit for those of you wanting to trek in and out of Portland without your car! We want to make this easy and fun for everyone so the task this year is advance planning and knowledge. It's actually surprisingly easy to get to Vancouver, you just gotta know the tricks!

And as I said, for parking, the details are en-route but we want to ensure it's simple, clear and easy before we get that information out there! Hopefully they will have a real good solution for us to report to you soon!
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: veraca on February 27, 2012, 10:44:37 am
Are they changing where you can park this year? Last year I parked at a gated parking garage near the Hilton, and after midnight we had to ask the Hilton staff to open the garage door for us to get in so we could get our car. We could get out fine, and it wasn't an issue. Is that garage not going to be available? I don't recall it being affiliated with the hotel, the garage had just made it more convenient for the customers to get their car over the weekend because of the con.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Kimiski on February 27, 2012, 11:20:34 am
OK.

I'm just worried about the fact that because my friends and I are staff, and our other roommate is not.... We need to drive up and keep our car with all our stuff there (we can not afford to stay Thursday night), whereas he will be dropped off after work from Salem (and we'll put the hotel in his name so he can check in at 4pm and go up when we'll be busy) So... we need a place to keep our car before the check in time for Hilton. >< Then when we're not working we'd grab our stuff and unload ourselves into our room.

When I asked Hilton if this was possible, to keep our car in their lot since we're guests but will not technically be "checked in yet" and if our non staff roommate can register the car to our room even though it's not his but he'd have all the info, they simply responded they're not responsible for Kumoricon attended parking.... ><

Same thing goes for Monday. We can't stay Monday night but want to stay later to help out. So... we need a place for our car after "check out" time.

We figure if we're needed Thursday before Day 0, and Tuesday, after Day 3, we'd rather drive up from Salem again then stay the night. It's much cheaper. >.> So hopefully there's a free parking lot anyway or that the Hilton would allow us to park somewhere in their lot then.

Oh, and did any Kumoricon attendee have to pay to park for staying at the Hilton? What about this year?
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: EveofAbyss on February 27, 2012, 01:17:51 pm
We just parked on the street. Had to pay for Friday when we got there (metered parking), but the weekend was free because it was a holiday. I assume it will be the same next year. Was really easy to park actually.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Kimiski on February 27, 2012, 01:19:26 pm
 :o Free holiday parking!!! SUCCESS!!! *tears of joy*
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: veraca on February 27, 2012, 01:36:10 pm
We were at that garage right near there... It's like kiddie-corner from the Hilton by the clock tower kinda. It was pretty cheap, like 5$-10$ a day, considering it was gated.
And we had no problem going in and out getting to the car, only when it was after midnight and the gates were locked did we have to ask the Hilton staff to open it for us. The only thing about the garage was the spots filled up fast if we arrived too late in the morning. We got there mostly before 9am and were ok finding spots, but my car's a compact so it made life easier.

I don't think the Hilton even has access to their parking garage, do they? Last year it was where registration was, and the last time we were at this location, the Dealer's room was in there.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: Kimiski on February 27, 2012, 01:41:21 pm
^ No they don't, that's why I was wondering what on earth I was going to do or what's being done. xD
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: RonitheBear on July 01, 2012, 09:20:51 pm
Does anyone know the policies of the area next to the Hilton (the square/park area with the clock tower)? I was thinking of doing some chalk drawing there, which can be cleaned up easily, but I don't want to upset anyone too much.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: LtCommanderRichie on June 09, 2013, 06:56:54 pm
There was a large chalk mural in the park last year, so I highly doubt it's frowned upon (especially since it looked like it hadn't even been attacked with a hose by the graffiti patrol or anything)


I myself am planning some sidewalk chalk art to do a cosplay photoshoot, since it went over so well at Fanime (myself and a friend drew a large pair of black wings in the park for the Supernatural cosplayers to use, and the San Jose public works guys even liked them :D )


If anyone tells you to stop, offer to clean it up for them if they get you a hose. No harm no foul, it's just chalk after all.


Edit: WOW WHOOPS TALK ABOUT A LATE REPLY I thought the date on your question said "June 1 2013". I hope your chalk mural went well at con last year.
Title: Re: Food Options in Vancouver
Post by: DufenDorgen on August 09, 2013, 07:30:09 pm
I am just wondering..... what are my food options in the Vancouver area?

I know, per google maps, there's a Joe's Crab Shack and other stuff..... what else ya got? Any fast food? Please help me!



(Note: Merged in from a separate thread. ~randompvg)
I highly recommend Joe browns, they maybe closed on holidays and they do close everyday at 3pm. Though they're food is amazing and serve in large portions. It's an old 50's diner that never changed. It's located on main street near Kiggins theater.

There's also the very good "Vancouver pizza" on upper main street and Peeking gardens is a good chinses resturant, though they are nazi's when it comes to changing things on they're menue. There is a mcminamins and beaches right next to each other on the waterfront. In grand central plaza there is a red robin, "Rock pizza" and panda express.
Title: Re: Kumoricon 2011 Location / Area Questions
Post by: amdreamer on August 30, 2013, 10:31:08 am
So we can just park anywhere on the curb free because of the holiday weekend?  I won't have to worry about getting towed :P? 


This issue has been freaking me out all week.  I don't really mind walking 1 mile + for parking if it is affordable or free ^_^
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: PandaPanda on June 22, 2014, 04:21:05 pm
Does anyone know where the actual con will be? I know it's near red lion and the hilton, but I'm not staying in a hotel so I was wondering where the con itself will take place.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Sailor-Jeimi on June 22, 2014, 04:43:52 pm
Does anyone know where the actual con will be? I know it's near red lion and the hilton, but I'm not staying in a hotel so I was wondering where the con itself will take place.
It's not NEAR Those hotels. It's IN them both hotels have rooms like the meeting rooms and such that are the con stuff. So like panels and main events and such are INSIDE the hotels. There's no separate building with the con in it.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: PaperRoxas on June 22, 2014, 06:33:07 pm
Hey all. I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about the park this year... I've heard that the park is rented to a different event this year, which sounds like there will be no room for us con-goers. I was hoping to find a topic on it, but I have yet to see one. Anyone know anything about this?
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Sailor-Jeimi on June 22, 2014, 06:53:06 pm
Hey all. I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about the park this year... I've heard that the park is rented to a different event this year, which sounds like there will be no room for us con-goers. I was hoping to find a topic on it, but I have yet to see one. Anyone know anything about this?


Hmm..I have not heard that..You'd think the hotels or con staff would have heard something and would try to talk to them..I didn't know you could rent out a public park that anyone can just walk right into..I man it's different if it were a gated part or something where there is a way to stop people from entering in such an occation, but I don't believe a public, OPENED park cxan be rented out to where non eventees are not allowed there..
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: PaperRoxas on June 22, 2014, 09:20:08 pm
Hey all. I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about the park this year... I've heard that the park is rented to a different event this year, which sounds like there will be no room for us con-goers. I was hoping to find a topic on it, but I have yet to see one. Anyone know anything about this?


Hmm..I have not heard that..You'd think the hotels or con staff would have heard something and would try to talk to them..I didn't know you could rent out a public park that anyone can just walk right into..I man it's different if it were a gated part or something where there is a way to stop people from entering in such an occation, but I don't believe a public, OPENED park cxan be rented out to where non eventees are not allowed there..


Well I know that they've had a farmer's market type thing during the con weekend the past few years, so I'm wondering if they decided to hold it in the actual park this year... it's just a rumor, but if it's a true one... that's gonna suck .-.;;;
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Sailor-Jeimi on June 22, 2014, 10:01:24 pm
Hey all. I was wondering if anyone has heard anything about the park this year... I've heard that the park is rented to a different event this year, which sounds like there will be no room for us con-goers. I was hoping to find a topic on it, but I have yet to see one. Anyone know anything about this?


Hmm..I have not heard that..You'd think the hotels or con staff would have heard something and would try to talk to them..I didn't know you could rent out a public park that anyone can just walk right into..I man it's different if it were a gated part or something where there is a way to stop people from entering in such an occation, but I don't believe a public, OPENED park cxan be rented out to where non eventees are not allowed there..


Well I know that they've had a farmer's market type thing during the con weekend the past few years, so I'm wondering if they decided to hold it in the actual park this year... it's just a rumor, but if it's a true one... that's gonna suck .-.;;;


Yea I know about that. I was gonna go see but I wasn't in the mood..lol But I looked up the policies for the park uses in seattle (which I assume are very similar to vancouver, seattle just happened to come up), and it looks like there might be a permit that allows a private party to rent out a park, but it is very vague and hard to understand..From what I gather, they need a specific permit (called a non park use permit) which I have not found anything yet on if they make it so they can take an entire park for a whole weekend while a closer yearly event is going on that uses that same park. I'd assume that if the con knew this was happening, they'd try to resolve it, as it's already been used in the past by con attendees and anyone in the area that's been there as long as the con has should be able to say the same.The market seems to run just fine the way it was, so there's no reason they should take up an area other people already are known to enjoy..It won't get them any more customers..In fact it might get them less because no one from con would want to go..


Also, another thing is (and I just thought of this, literally after typing all that), it's a public market where the general public is allowed in at any given time..So they are not a private party..Meaning that they legally can not get a non park use permit.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: EveofAbyss on June 23, 2014, 03:44:28 am
OxFest happens in Esther Short Park every year. That may or may not be what you're thinking of. It is a festival celebrating people's recovery from addiction, and tends to happen on the Sunday, if I remember right.

It has never been an exclusive thing. No one forbids con-goers from still visiting the park; it just tends to get pretty crowded and the majority of OxFest participants have been notoriously unfriendly to Kumoricon attendees. Not saying that's how it will be this year, but that's been the trend so far, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Sailor-Jeimi on July 07, 2014, 08:13:42 pm
Man I been lookin for this thread all day. I have a reply about the market taking over the park. They can't. That wouldn't work if they do. A farmers market is a public market, which means it's open to the general public. Meaning they can not forbid the public from there because if they did, they'd get no business.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Ryo~T.B on July 08, 2014, 08:25:30 am
Nothings rented out. Kumoricon, the farmers market, and and any other small event would share the park like previous years. The park is not reserved to any one due to it being a public park. Thus saying sailor-jeimi said. So don't worry its ok.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Sailor-Jeimi on July 08, 2014, 01:42:31 pm
Nothings rented out. Kumoricon, the farmers market, and and any other small event would share the park like previous years. The park is not reserved to any one due to it being a public park. Thus saying sailor-jeimi said. So don't worry its ok.
Just wanna say..just because it's a public park, does not mean it can't be rented out. I already stated above, but if a company it event wants to, they can submit the proper paperwork to make it so the public can't enter the park. Public park or not, it can still happen. If the recovery people want the park for the weekend try are legally allowed to put in the papers and get a permit for that. So just the fact that it's a public park does not mean it can't be rented and closed to the public with a proper permit. Just thought it'd be a good idea to clear that up.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Ryo~T.B on July 08, 2014, 08:30:24 pm
They shared it with us last year. We're fine and thats all we need to think about. Don't worry anybody.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Soahc Eht on July 17, 2014, 04:22:38 am
I'm wondering if anyone as had problems getting the kumoricon rates at the Comfort Inn & Suites.
I booked there quite some time ago and the kumoricon website says i could get a $95 per night deal for the con. I called the hotel and they said kumoricon does not have a contract with them.
Any thing i can do?
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: milk. on August 28, 2014, 01:55:16 pm
Because the convention is held on a weekend ( or half of it, anyway) parking is free downtown. There is a parking garage literally across the street from Esther Short Park (under the Vancouver center building) and its like $10 for all day parking, if im not mistaken. There will also be a Maid Cafe held at LUXE  (across the street at ground level of the vancouver center) on Saturday starting at 1pm. Farmers market, CouvFest and some other events will be taking place near the park, but nothing is reserved/off limits for con goers.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Animeman73 on July 05, 2016, 09:17:45 pm
Ladies and gentleman,

As a public service to my fellow Kumoricon goers. I will use this thread to provide some important information.  now we all know Kumoricon this year is going to be at the Oregon Convention Center in downtown Portland. And as many if not all of us know Portland traffic can be a real bear sometimes. So why deal with it? There are four MAX/light rail lines you can use to get to the main location for Kumoricon this year.

1. First we have the Green Line MAX. That line goes out to Clackamas town center. if you live near a bus line that can get you to Clackamas Town center, live near Clackamas Town Center itself, or live near any of the Green Line MAX stations then you can hop on and let it take you to the Convention Center Station.
2. Next we have the Blue Line, the biggest of the MAX Lines. This one goes all the way from Hillsboro to Gresham. If you live around any of the stations there, or know buses that can get you to them you can use the Blue Line MAX to get to the Convention Center.
3. If you live near any of the Yellow Line Stations or can take a bus to any of them the Yellow Line MAX will drop you off at the Rose Garden Station and it's a short walk to the Convention Center area.
4. If you know anyone who lives outside of Portland who's planning to fly in to attend the Convention they're in luck. The Red Line MAX goes out to PDX Airport. And Let's face facts if you've ever been to the airport for any reason you know traffic there can get ugly. Well for those coming into Portland from PDX or know a way to get to any of the Red Line stations this is a very handy way to avoid airport traffic and get downtown in good time.

For more detailed information at Tri-Met's website it's free for all. Thanks for reading this post folks.
Title: Re: Kumoricon Location / Area Questions
Post by: Lamoni on August 06, 2016, 04:08:06 am
As a further public service to all Kumoricon goers,

Here is a list of the nearest supermarkets, and convenience stores, along with how far away they are from the Oregon Convention Center:

Safeway
1100 NE Broadway St
(1.0 miles)

Fred Meyer
3030 NE Weidler St
(1.7 miles)

7-11
310 NE Weidler St
(0.6 miles)

Plaid Pantry
4 SE Grand Ave
(0.4 miles)

Please plan your snack/food/drink runs accordingly.