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Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Teh Becca on May 11, 2004, 01:59:06 am
I live in Portland, about a fifteen-minute drive away from the Mariott, and I just found this... naturally, my first reaction was "Yay! A con!"

But then, I was curious. What exactly are your policies on minors? See, I'd love to go, but I'm...ah, under eighteen. So here I am, asking: what effect  would that have on my con-going enjoyment?
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: zenix on May 11, 2004, 04:02:57 am
i cant speak as to the exact policies on minors but  it will most likly be that you will just need to bring a guardain with you

got a friend thats over 18?
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: princessfrodo on May 11, 2004, 07:53:00 am
These are Sakura Con's policy's, so please correct if I'm wrong:

Over 16 but under 18, someone over 18 needs to be your guardian.  They DON'T have to be with you at all times, but they must attend the Con, even if they only sit in one video room the entire time.

Under 16 requires that your guardian be with you at all times.  Unless you need to use the restroom and they're of the oppsite gender.  Then they wait for you. ^.^

I'm assuming under the age of 6 is not a question here. ^.^
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Teh Becca on May 11, 2004, 08:02:48 am
All right. Thanks for the info. ^^;
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: princessfrodo on May 11, 2004, 08:30:39 am
No problem. ^.^
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: SailorNaboo on May 11, 2004, 11:10:48 am
I'm very sure Sakura's policy on needing a parent/guardian with you at all times matched up with the child and minor badges.  12 and under, paid admission guardian always with you, 13 and up, guardian with paid admission on site.  Sakura would have put some sort of designation on the badges if there was another age break in the 13-17 year olds to make it easier for security if there was another age group.

My nephew from Tucson came to the con with me and he was 14, and we read all the rules very carefully to make sure of what we needed to do for him.  Since he was 13 or over, and he always had someone at one of the hotels that paid to get in, he was free to do what he wanted until curfew. (We gave him strict orders to always obey security and not to talk back to them).
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: staze on May 11, 2004, 01:20:00 pm
we will be marking badges for minors.  we're not quite sure how yet, but they will be marked, and there will be cerfews.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: princessfrodo on May 11, 2004, 01:43:13 pm
My advice, after the HUGE screw up at this years Sakura Con, make all the badges the same, but give Registration several stamps marked MINOR, and stamp the badges of all minors with BIG RED LETTERS. ^.^
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: staze on May 11, 2004, 01:50:10 pm
discuss in security forum
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: zenix on May 11, 2004, 04:54:49 pm
there was a huge screw up at sakura con?

it semed to me you guys had most things under your control
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: princessfrodo on May 12, 2004, 07:40:42 am
If you were out of your room after 1am, and had registered on Friday, best bet is that you know about the problem.

Registration handed out minor badges to adults and adult badges to minors, and never informed security until Saturday. >.<  It made enforcing curfew a joke, really. ^.^;
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Kei-Kei on May 17, 2004, 11:07:06 pm
I'd suggest stressing the Portland City curfew as well at Kumoricon's. On The SCMB alot of people had complained about the curfew, and they don't seem to realize that Seatac has a city curfew for minors... just a suggestion.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: zenix on May 18, 2004, 08:52:50 am
wow thats pretty bad
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: staze on May 18, 2004, 10:36:06 am
we will be stressing the portland curfew, but as it falls before our curfew, it's mostly going to be posted somewhere saying "if it's after midnight, and you're not 18, I suggest not going to play".  

http://www.portlandonline.com/shared/cfm/image.cfm?id=33656

That's from the PPB (Portland Police Bureau.  But as I said, that's only going to be something to tell people when they go outside after a certain time.  Inside it's our curfew...
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: princessfrodo on May 18, 2004, 12:41:11 pm
I say midnight is a pretty good time to advise everyone under 18 to be in their rooms. ^.^
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: staze on May 18, 2004, 01:12:09 pm
well, curfew at sakuracon was 1am, right?  And the night of the rave it was extended to 3am for minors IN the rave.  

We were thinking it would be best to stick with that... but if security feels it's better for midnight so we can mesh with PPB rules... then, so be it.  

But, this will be touched on at a meeting.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: princessfrodo on May 18, 2004, 01:26:46 pm
Curfew at Sakura Con was midnight, but we started heavily enforcing it at 1am.

It was never pushed back for the rave.  Security just never went into the Rave to card people because most people put their badges in their pockets so they wouldn't be lost.  So we carded people the instant they left the rave.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: staze on May 18, 2004, 02:14:11 pm
ah, well that answers that... I could have swore when you came into the Console room to check badges you mentioned something about it being pushed back.  

Okay... well, midnight sounds like when it'll probably be for us.  Unless there are some really good reasons to have it be sooner or later in the evening.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: EvilMonkey on May 18, 2004, 05:17:37 pm
One benifit that we have is that we're in one hotel, unlike at SakuraCon where security needed to worry about people going between hotels and beind outside after curfew.  Technically, according to how curfew laws are stated, we'd be able to hold events that go past curfew that would have minors at them solely because they are in a supervised location.  However, I don't know if we're going to persue that loophole, as it does open us up for trouble if a minor gets injured or becomes missing during this time.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Kei-Kei on May 18, 2004, 06:51:03 pm
I was suggesting since the staff probably doesn't wanna tussle with the Portland Police Bureau... :wink:  No matter how cool that would be to see.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: EvilMonkey on May 18, 2004, 08:17:21 pm
"Police move in, Inu Yasha, Ranma, and Edward Elric create a protective shield around the attendees..."  

Yeah, that doesn't sound like it would end well...
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Stiffler on May 18, 2004, 10:12:25 pm
I smell attack of the Otaku Mafia
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: EvilMonkey on May 18, 2004, 11:28:46 pm
we could have the 501st (http://www.501st.com/default.html) run security for our convention. :)  Wouldn't that be a sight?
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: princessfrodo on May 19, 2004, 08:00:48 am
I say Section 9 should make a guest appearence.  :twisted:

Actually.... /me checks Value Village .... w00t, I now have a complete costume for Motoko Kusanagi.... but blonde. ^.^;
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: staze on May 19, 2004, 09:46:59 am
different body?  perhaps he hair got stuck slightly cloaked and it made it look blonde... yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: zenix on May 19, 2004, 09:53:04 am
Quote
we could have the 501st run security for our convention.  Wouldn't that be a sight?


arent those the starwars storm troopers? o hell yeah plz get them i mean there is after all a starwars manga

but then we might end up with those crazy starwars people with there plastic lightsabers

wait that wont be much of a change :lol:
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: princessfrodo on May 19, 2004, 12:02:05 pm
Quote from: "Staze"
different body?  perhaps he hair got stuck slightly cloaked and it made it look blonde... yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.


Actually, I could just say that I'm using an alternate body.  To blend in with the 'American' crowd. ^.^
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: TomtheFanboy on May 19, 2004, 05:16:25 pm
Actually guys, if somebody 'll take the flyers to.... hold on, let me find the name of the restaurant..... Ah!
Bodacious Classics, a  dance club in Southeast Portland.

This's the place where they have Klingons doing Karaoe every Thursday night. I'm sure if we got some flyers there we'd get some more attendees. It might not be "anime" but they'd at least be in costumes!
As far as the 501st Stormtrooper Legion, they manufacture the stormie armour, you'd still hafta find people to fill the suits, though I think you might not have to buy them all. It was creepy having them chack the costume weaponry and baggage.

Again, that was an actual Star Wars convention sponsored by Lucasfilm itself.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Teh Becca on May 19, 2004, 06:31:45 pm
Bodacious Classics... I hope you're not referring to the place across the street from BurgerVille?

Anyway, Midnight's an hour I could live with. That's when I pass out usually, anyway, so it works rather nicely.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Negima on May 20, 2004, 08:56:42 pm
Quote from: "QEvil"
"Police move in, Inu Yasha, Ranma, and Edward Elric create a protective shield around the attendees..."  

Yeah, that doesn't sound like it would end well...

I just tried to imagine the Portland Police either going after people dressed in costumes or being assisted by people in costumes.  Somehow I have a feeling that's normal sometimes for them.
Hey, since it's an Anime convention, why don't they rent a mecha or something to help them^_^.  How about the one in Megatokyo?
http://www.megatokyo.com/index.php?strip_id=354 (The best example I could find.)
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Kei-Kei on May 20, 2004, 09:18:44 pm
I like that idea. So long as it doesn't fall into the hands of some mech fan. Then I think we might have some problems.  :)
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: EvilMonkey on May 20, 2004, 10:38:35 pm
Something tells me that's a little out of our budget range...
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: staze on May 21, 2004, 12:45:55 am
I was just thinking that since they're considered defective, we might be able to pick up an ED209 pretty cheap.  :-P
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: princessfrodo on May 21, 2004, 10:39:06 am
Or someone could bring along the lunch that's been hiding in the back of their closet for the past few years, that usually keeps most people in line.... when it's not killing and eating them. ^.^;
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Kei-Kei on May 21, 2004, 03:52:10 pm
That's a good idea too. Leave some sushi in a hot place all summer, come September bring it along for security.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Negima on May 21, 2004, 09:13:11 pm
Um, careful what you wish for.  In middle school my locker partner left some food in the back of the locker for 6 months.  Have you ever seen petrified Jello?  It's not a pretty sight.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Stiffler on May 21, 2004, 10:11:52 pm
I have an egg in my closet that's been in it's air-tight chamber for about 3 years...MWAHAHAHA
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Kei-Kei on May 22, 2004, 12:10:33 am
Oddly enough, my lockers in middle school were the breeding grounds of all sorts of strange and nasty things that I'm not sure what they were to begin with! I swear one of them that I think might've once been a donut spoke to me! U^-^U;;
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: TomtheFanboy on May 22, 2004, 03:44:15 am
You guys don't know anything about scary food in closets!
Maybe Pezcat and I should tell you about the pudding experiments at NCC back in 2000. That stuff was disturbing.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: kylite on May 22, 2004, 05:26:22 am
do you think its a problem when you open the fridge for a midnight snack and the salad tells you to turn out the light?
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: DannyCat on May 22, 2004, 07:02:27 am
Quote from: "Stiffler"
I have an egg in my closet that's been in it's air-tight chamber for about 3 years...MWAHAHAHA
You could cosplay as Yotsuya and bring it.  :wink:
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: zenix on May 22, 2004, 09:28:54 am
one time when we mocved someone had left a plate of something in the microwave for about a month
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: Negima on May 22, 2004, 05:01:58 pm
Quote from: "kylite"
do you think its a problem when you open the fridge for a midnight snack and the salad tells you to turn out the light?

Only if the milk tells you to keep the noise down.
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: sassy_lassy on May 27, 2004, 01:16:14 pm
*delayed response...of boredom*

...scary food... lives under my bed... I once found a frozen crab under it O.o... that was freaky.....  

...midnight curfew, huh? *rubs chin* guess that's bad news for vampire minors *bares fangs* Midnight is when I start to wake up :K  but... oh well..... *stalks into the corner*  

*end of delayed response of boredom that had no point*
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: PezCat on May 27, 2004, 01:48:14 pm
Quote from: "TomtheFanboy"
You guys don't know anything about scary food in closets!
Maybe Pezcat and I should tell you about the pudding experiments at NCC back in 2000. That stuff was disturbing.


The Pudding Medallion will consume us all!!!

PezCat
Title: What is the policy on minors?
Post by: cupcake_abuser_zooshi on August 13, 2004, 11:35:42 am
this all reminds me of that Cowboy Beebop episode where Spike had left that lobster in the fridge for a year, and this fungus thing that grew off of it started attackiing everyone. hahaha! anyway, i'm 14 and i'll be with my 10 year old cousin. do we HAVE to have our Grandma walk around with us? or can she just wait for us some wheres, and we just check in with her now and then?