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Please tell me if this is in the incorrect area!
Anime conventions have are notorious within the lolita community for having some really, really bad outfits. A lot of time, the lolita fashion itself is known for being considered "cosplay" because it is worn poorly at anime conventions, which it really is its own style of everyday clothing.
My goal is to help you guys with your lolita outfits to bring out their full potential and keep them from looking like a cosplay, and to keep you from being ridiculed online. I'm not an expert, and I doubt that anyone truly is, but I've been a part of the lolita community online for over a year now, and I've seen a ton of outfits. Some good, and some not so good.
First of all is a quick history of lolita fashion.
Because it is considered an alternative fashion, the roots of lolita are somewhat unclear. It gained momentum during the 80's and 90's, but specialty lolita shops are said to have been around as far back as the 70's. Throughout the years, the fashion has changed and grown, and it is still evolving today.
There are many different styles of lolita.
Gothic: the most well known, by far. In fact, most lolita is referred to as "gothic lolita" even when there are no gothic elements present. The colors used in gothic lolita are usually black, or sometimes white, but black and white lolita is mostly considered sweet lolita now. Navy blue is also popular.
Sweet: this could be considered the most popular style right now. A lot of overseas sweet lolita brands started shipping internationally, leading to a surge in the popularity. The colors are traditionally pink and white, but almost any color can work. Pastels are common, along with motifs involving candy or pastries or animals.
Classic: another style also becoming more popular. This is the most "laid-back" style, because it is generally less over-the-top than the other styles. Colors and cuts are generally more mature and subdued, with creams, burgundys, and browns. The skirts are usually less cupcake-like than sweet or gothic, more like an A-like shape.
There are other sub-sections of lolita, but these are the main ones. You can find more information in the links below.
There are a lot of misconceptions about lolita. For example, the idea that you have to act polite and sweet while wearing lolita. This is very much untrue! What you wear does not dictate how you act, which is something a lot of lolitas like to remind people. There are a variety of other misconceptions, which I'll add on as I think of them.
So now, here are some links to places with more information about lolita:
lolitafashion.org (http://lolitafashion.org/)
Lolita Handbook (http://lolita-handbook.livejournal.com/)
EGL Community (http://community.livejournal.com/egl)
I can almost guarantee that one of the first questions will be "where can I buy cheap lolita clothing?" So here are some more links:
Bodyline (http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/) (please use caution when buying from them; not all of their products are lolita)
EGL Community Sales (http://community.livejournal.com/egl_comm_sales/)
Anna House (http://www.annahousefashion.com/) (prices are in Hong Kong Dollars, not USD)
Again, I'll add more links as I find them.
You should never, EVER buy lolita from these places:
Hot Topic
Ebay (unless you're buying shoes, and be careful)
Rakuen
Etsy (some accessories are okay)
Cosplay shops
Goth shops
Milanoo
I'll hopefully be adding more onto this post, but feel free to ask questions about your lolita outfits and I'll give you my input! ; D
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i'm going as a lolita but because i love that style and its my interest and i go all out. i feel sad that peoplethink they are lolita but arent. its hurts me but hopefully this year it wont be bad but yup. I HOPE TO SEE LOLITAS cuz they rock.
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I'd love to see a picture of your outfit! :D I'll post pictures of mine when I can find them.
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Curiously, why is it you don't want to buy from those websites?
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Curiously, why is it you don't want to buy from those websites?
In general, poor quality and prices.
Hot Topic mostly has slutty pieces that are marked "lolita," with cheap lace and fabric and skirts that are WAY too short for anyone, lolita or not. Ebay shops are known for stealing Japanese brand pictures and sending you a crappy replica that is falling apart, Rakuen is just a bad store in general. Etsy CAN have nice things, but you really have to be careful, and cosplay/goth shops rarely known what they're talking about when they label things "lolita."
There are always exceptions though, and some of those stores can have nice accessories or shoes or things.
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I got something from Rakuen once so I was curious. thanks for answering.
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I got something from Rakuen once so I was curious. thanks for answering.
Rakuen is far from the worst on the list, but it's not a good place to direct newbies. Plus you could probably order a cuter outfit for less at a different store.
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ahh. it was for princess princess cosplay group that I joined on the spur of the moment. at this point though, I'm trying to sell the dress away.
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I'd suggest selling it on the egl community sales. Do you have a livejournal account?
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I should already have a buyer, it just getting meeting arranged to conduct the transaction. if it doesn't work out, that try that suggestion. I don't have a livejournal account however.
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Some of those 'bad' stores have some pretty decent accessories, though~ And I think I've seen a few good things on Etsy; one of our vendors (customcosplay?) actually makes some really nice lolita stuff and sells some of it on there.
But yeah, for a newbie it isn't that great since if you typed in 'Lolita' in the search bar, you'd probably get some weird stuff...
Do you have any cool lolita outfits you could show off to us? c: I only have one that isn't all that great... But I'm working on expanding my wardrobe over the summer, and once I get enough money.
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Some of those 'bad' stores have some pretty decent accessories, though~ And I think I've seen a few good things on Etsy; one of our vendors (customcosplay?) actually makes some really nice lolita stuff and sells some of it on there.
But yeah, for a newbie it isn't that great since if you typed in 'Lolita' in the search bar, you'd probably get some weird stuff...
Do you have any cool lolita outfits you could show off to us? c: I only have one that isn't all that great... But I'm working on expanding my wardrobe over the summer, and once I get enough money.
I could've sworn I put a "these shops can have good accessories" sentence, but I guess I didn't D: I should do that.
Customcosplay's stuff is amazing, seriously. I have a ring from her, and I love it.
Most of my pictures are somewhere on lj or lost on my computer, so I'll model some of my outfits when I have time. It's finals week D; I got a nice petticoat recently, so a lot of my pictures have the old crappy one in it. Here's a picture from the last meetup I went to:
I'm the one with the red purse. (http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs118.snc1/4983_1148847088706_1453449591_384172_1756107_n.jpg)
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Ah, you said that in one of your posts but I missed it, sorry xD
Nice bonnet o3o I think I've seen you before... Somewhere... I lurk egl and d_l a lot, so maybe there? The girl in the white dress also looks eerily familiar. She on the forums here?
Good luck with finals, btw :P
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Some of those 'bad' stores have some pretty decent accessories, though~ And I think I've seen a few good things on Etsy; one of our vendors (customcosplay?) actually makes some really nice lolita stuff and sells some of it on there.
But yeah, for a newbie it isn't that great since if you typed in 'Lolita' in the search bar, you'd probably get some weird stuff...
Do you have any cool lolita outfits you could show off to us? c: I only have one that isn't all that great... But I'm working on expanding my wardrobe over the summer, and once I get enough money.
I could've sworn I put a "these shops can have good accessories" sentence, but I guess I didn't D: I should do that.
Customcosplay's stuff is amazing, seriously. I have a ring from her, and I love it.
Most of my pictures are somewhere on lj or lost on my computer, so I'll model some of my outfits when I have time. It's finals week D; I got a nice petticoat recently, so a lot of my pictures have the old crappy one in it. Here's a picture from the last meetup I went to:
I'm the one with the red purse. (http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs118.snc1/4983_1148847088706_1453449591_384172_1756107_n.jpg)
thats a cute dress. i cant post any new pics since i dont have any of my lolita outfits yet(all with my aunt) but i'm getting one soon then i'll post a pic and i have to sew more lace on it since its mainly frilly >.<
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Ah, you said that in one of your posts but I missed it, sorry xD
Nice bonnet o3o I think I've seen you before... Somewhere... I lurk egl and d_l a lot, so maybe there? The girl in the white dress also looks eerily familiar. She on the forums here?
Good luck with finals, btw :P
I need to put that in the main post DX
Oh yeah, I use egl. I rarely post, but I've posted a few pictures before, and I've been to meetups. Yeah the girl in white/blue is on the forums here. That picture is from the last meetup picnic.
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My Lolita dress is really a cosplay, because the character is From Rozen Maiden.
Am dressing up as Suigintou.
Here dress is Gothic Lolita. (even though it has white) but ya.
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Oh yeah, Rozen Maiden is considered a lolita manga. That's actually why I started reading it.
However, the characters don't actually wear lolita. For the most part, their clothes are more inspired by lolita, or, rather, inspired by the same things that inspired lolita.
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I'd probably say inspired by similar things ＾－＾； Or in this case, since Rozen Maiden is based on dolls, I'd say by outfits porcelain dolls wear o~o
The outfits in Rozen maiden are a little... I dunno, exaggerated? To be considered everyday fashion like lolita.
And yes, gothic lolita can even have white elements in it, or can be mainly white. I can't find any good examples at the moment but... yeah xD;;
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Rozen Maiden is definitely inspired by dolls. Victorian ones, I'd say. And Victorian dolls (along with Rococo/Marie Antoinette fashion) was one of the big inspirations of lolita.
lolitafashion.org has a bunch of bxw gothic lolita examples. Here are a couple:
http://lolitafashion.org/images/gothic7.jpg
http://lolitafashion.org/images/gothic11.jpg
It's funny to look back in old lolita magazines, because a lot of what was considered "gothic" then is now considered sweet. Blackxwhite is usually considered sweet, but it depends on the prints/motifs/cuts of the outfit.
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ok so i'm making an ero lolita dress cuz right now i'm into designing it and i'd rather make it then order, so what colors...
red/black
blue/black
red/gold
blue/god
red
white/black
red/black
blue/white
which colors?
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What inspiration are you using for ero? I've only seen it done well a few times, and they were professional photoshoots D:
Blue/black, definitely. That is a great color scheme for ero-loli. Red/black could work too.
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lol i seen some good examples and a friend thats a photographer in training and this is going toward a portfolio for college. lol i think i'll do a good job when i get the main sketch down i'll post it ya?
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That sounds awesome! I love old-fashioned lady's underthings, like corsets and bloomers, so ero-loli is so fun to look at. If I were in better shape, I'd wear it.
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Haha, one of the pictures you linked got mad at me :'D Ffff no hotlinking there.
@DooFeR- I don't look at many Ero-loli outfits, but whitexblue looks something not too common. o_o or Whitexanything really.
Of course, I'm probably wrong :'D I usually only see outfits with black...
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They're working fine for me D: They're on lolitafashion.org if you really want to see them.
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Really informative first post!
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hmm i just love the ero style is sooo provactive yet conservative. yup i'm probably gonna post my sketch this week once i get my scanner. but ya its gonnabe either red/black or blue/black. ya i think i can pull this off just need to save money and wokr out some more. but ya. do any of you guys have any lolitas. i got a loli like corsage for prom too it was cute! oh and mana does blue/white, candy lolita has alot of pink/white, and theres alot of black/white lolita outfits.
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I meant that I'd never seen white used too much in an Ero outfit. Of course there are ton of other styles incorporating white. o_o
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Mana wears a lot of things that lolitas shouldn't wear. XD Super-short skirts, whiteface makeup, etc. He's pretty much the guy who made lolita popular in the 80's and 90's, and he does have his own brand, but he just wears Mana clothing instead of lolita.
Black and white has gotten less popular recently, mostly because a lot of people associate it with bad, tacky lolita with cheap materials. So have the "traditional" headdresses, the rectangular ones that sit on the head, and so have socks with insane amounts of lace at the tops.
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well ya i think i'll do a good job on this i'm working it out right now. so far soo good i'm going with red and black right now. i think mana made lolita cool but over dramatic. he started a new style, "drama lolita" (over dramatic) lol.
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He started "elegant gothic lolita" or egl.
And thus marketed it to weeaboos and Hot Topic.
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ok so heres a cleaned up version of my rough sketch. coloring is bad and detailing isn't that good(cant really draw lace lol) but ya.
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg68%2FRobot_World_dominator%2FDSC01851.jpg&hash=a88b4c937e3747b1843097da9b5ea5c00dcd09ed)
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OMG!! its so AWSOME!!
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OMG!! its so AWSOME!!
lol thanx i plan on finishing it b4 haloween cuz were gonna have a fancy teaparty and i plan on having this b4 then. sorry it looks crappy. lol
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It's nice, but I think it still has to be a little longer to keep with the lolita look. I'm also not crazy about the gloves or necklace, they look really cosplay-ish.
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lol its just a rough sketch i'm still working on it. for some reason i know how i want it but cant keep it right. but ya i dont know about the color yet. hmm but ya its just ar ough sketch.
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I think it looks just fine.
(people on here r just buzz kills)
If that was my dress I would were it all the time.
Its got good color to. I really love it.
(GIVE IT TO ME) lol.
if you dont like the red, what about dark Purple?
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hmm i'm gonna draw it a bit better tho maybe less ribbons well cuz i need it to match some jewelry and more lace and stuff.
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I think it looks just fine.
(people on here r just buzz kills)
When you post something online for everyone to see, people are allowed to submit feedback. This is exactly why I created a lolita thread- so that people can put up their ideas and help keep their designs within the guidelines without bothering the entire egl community.
After looking at the picture again, I think that it would look really nice if, instead of being red with black accents, the dress was black with red accents. Straps would also be a nice addition, like maybe a halter-top?
You can never go wrong with all-black, of course, and I think that would look very elegant if you can't decide on colors.
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lol i think i will change it back to black because my first design was black and red but i ddnt like the design. so i'll post up the new design later with more detail ok? and ya sorry if it looks bland lol its just so hard to detail it to where it looks like the frabric. but ya. thanx for the feed back tho, and your not a buzz kill ^___^
edit: ummm i'm gonna take the ribbon the off the neck cuz i put the ribbon my neck, it makes it look chunky and it makes it look alot shorterthan it really is.
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I wasnt saying you are a buzz kill, but there really is a some one, on here who shoots me down a lot.
I think it looks just fine.
(people on here r just buzz kills)
When you post something online for everyone to see, people are allowed to submit feedback. This is exactly why I created a lolita thread- so that people can put up their ideas and help keep their designs within the guidelines without bothering the entire egl community.
After looking at the picture again, I think that it would look really nice if, instead of being red with black accents, the dress was black with red accents. Straps would also be a nice addition, like maybe a halter-top?
You can never go wrong with all-black, of course, and I think that would look very elegant if you can't decide on colors.
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I don't think it needs too much more detail, just different ones. Simple lace and some ruffles would work wonderfully.
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lol i redesigned this one and its way better so ya. i might post it up soon so ya.
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ok so i'm making an ero lolita dress cuz right now i'm into designing it and i'd rather make it then order, so what colors...
red/black
blue/black
red/gold
blue/god
red
white/black
red/black
blue/white
which colors?
I think blue and white would look cool if it was a darker blue.
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So, I'm a young adult male with a long-term interest in Victorian fashion in general. I started with the architecture, but the clothing, the theatre, and the music are all also really intriguing to me. I've been vaguely aware of the Victorian-inspired Lolita fashions for about a year and a half, but I've never really felt that drawn to it until recently. More recently, as I've been trying to interact with more members in this community and better understand the people I'm working to serve, a lot of people have been asking me what type of cosplay I wear. The answer? I wear suits that I throw together from clothes I buy at Goodwill. I first did this at Sakuracon 2008 as a joke cosplay, and I realised that I felt very comfortable walking around the convention wearing really dressy clothes. Since then I've brought a suit or two to every convention I've been to (4, I think, plus a couple mini cons). The elegance of a suit really appeals to me, but not just a plain, modern, socially acceptable suit. I love vintage suits. In short, I love Victorian suits. Coat-tails, frilly undershirts, SILK (oh god I love silk)...it's just so suitable for a fellow like myself.
So, back to why I'm here--I want to be more than just a guy in a suit. I want to be THE guy in THE suit. I want to captivate the elegance and class around which this great fashion was made. I want to show the world what real style is, and I want to do it properly. I was wondering if you ladies might be able to help me work towards those goals. I am also seeking a counterpart to my suits to cavort around conventions with. Without a doubt--the most attractive garment a man might possess will be found on the lady accompanying him.
Cheers,
-Tofu
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In case it isn't clear, I'm primarily interested in Classic Lolita. Gothic Lolita has some appeal to me, but Classic is what I am truly drawn to.
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So I assume that you don't want to be wearing dresses. XD
There are two man "male" styles; aristocratic (http://lolitafashion.org/aristocrat.php) and kodana (http://lolitafashion.org/kodona.php).
Kodana is sort of girly, with childish touches like cropped pants. This style looks kind of silly on some guys, but if you can pull it off, go for it. There's one boy on livejournal who wears kodana SO well, but his journal is friends only. This is the best picture I could find- also, he's wearing a fake scar on his face for a fashion show.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/nyannyanx/lolita/17all.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/nyannyanx/lolita/29smileyguro.jpg
The aristo link is for womens fashion, it looks like, but guys can dress that way too. You can even toss in steampunk elements if you wish. The girl who ran the Gothic Lolita Tea Party for kcon last year has a boyfriend who dresses in a casual aristocratic style:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/FizzTheCarbonated/KCon08/CIMG4739.jpg
I also found this great example from lolitafashion.org:
http://lolitafashion.org/images/aristrocrat8.jpg
To make these fashions more classic than gothic, you can simply change up the color scheme. Instead of black and white, try brown and cream. You can even go with dusty blues and roses.
For stores... It's kind of hard to find male aristocratic brands from Japan, but if you can find the right things at Goodwill and second-hand stores, go there. Hawthorne has cool vintage stores that could sell the right stuff.
I'm not quite sure where you would find a lady to go with you XD A lot of the lolitas in Portland are VERY sweet. Maybe you could ask around on the Oregon Lolita Community (http://community.livejournal.com/orlolipops/) on livejournal?
Wow, I typed a lot D: Sorry for the novel.
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So I assume that you don't want to be wearing dresses. XD
There are two man "male" styles; aristocratic (http://lolitafashion.org/aristocrat.php) and kodana (http://lolitafashion.org/kodona.php).
Kodana is sort of girly, with childish touches like cropped pants. This style looks kind of silly on some guys, but if you can pull it off, go for it. There's one boy on livejournal who wears kodana SO well, but his journal is friends only. This is the best picture I could find- also, he's wearing a fake scar on his face for a fashion show.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/nyannyanx/lolita/17all.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/nyannyanx/lolita/29smileyguro.jpg
The aristo link is for womens fashion, it looks like, but guys can dress that way too. You can even toss in steampunk elements if you wish. The girl who ran the Gothic Lolita Tea Party for kcon last year has a boyfriend who dresses in a casual aristocratic style:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b70/FizzTheCarbonated/KCon08/CIMG4739.jpg
I also found this great example from lolitafashion.org:
http://lolitafashion.org/images/aristrocrat8.jpg
To make these fashions more classic than gothic, you can simply change up the color scheme. Instead of black and white, try brown and cream. You can even go with dusty blues and roses.
For stores... It's kind of hard to find male aristocratic brands from Japan, but if you can find the right things at Goodwill and second-hand stores, go there. Hawthorne has cool vintage stores that could sell the right stuff.
I'm not quite sure where you would find a lady to go with you XD A lot of the lolitas in Portland are VERY sweet. Maybe you could ask around on the Oregon Lolita Community (http://community.livejournal.com/orlolipops/) on livejournal?
Wow, I typed a lot D: Sorry for the novel.
I have always wanted to participate in Lolita fashion, I've loved it ever since.
But I can not afford a real lolita dress TAT as of yet. So until that day comes~~ :33
I didn't know LJ had a Oregon Lolita Community, that's really smart~!
And I agree with Cassi. With the past experiences I have, some of them do not appreciate if its not a brand name : [
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I find lolita fashion really cute and interesting, but I find a lot of lolitas really critical about each other's clothing, which has been an off-putting aspect for me. I also find it also all too expensive. :'[
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Oh, brand is totally not a factor. I've been to several lolita meetups and have posted my pictures online, and I've only heard good things about my offbrand and handmade pieces. If you know basic sewing, and you have a good eye, it's easy to make and find your own lolita for fairly cheap.
As for the infamous bitchiness of lolitas, I've been apart of the communities that "start" drama, and a majority of these girls aren't any more catty than the normal non-lolita person. Plus, the way a small amount of the community acts shouldn't keep you from dressing how you like.
The point of this thread is to keep you from getting posted on the websites that make fun of bad lolitas.
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I was actually mostly looking into Ouji (prince) styles. Kodana doesn't really have any appeal to me; I don't look boyish and I haven't since I was 10. Aristocrat also carries a significant degree of interest for me, partly because it can probably be more workable with my long hair and facial hair. The facial hair's fairly inconsequential though, so I could easily remove it if I were to find a greater compulsion towards Ouji.
Are there any particular stores on Hawthorne that you would recommend? It takes me 5 or 10 minutes to get there so it's pretty accessible to me. I haven't noticed anything at Buffalo Exchange, and House of Vintage seems to have mostly womens' clothing.
Thanks.
P.S.
fleur, lolitafashion doesn't appear to allow direct linking to their images for bandwidth purposes. Try saving them to your hard drive and uploading them to photobucket or imageshack. (after uploading, you can delete them from your hard drive)
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Kodana = Ouji
Kodana is the English term, Ouji is the Japanese.
I don't know Hawthorne very well, but I would just suggest browsing around and keeping your eyes open. Maybe print out some pictures and bring them with you.
If you really can't find anything, the only store that I can think of that sells male clothing is Fanplusfriend (http://www.fanplusfriend.com/servlet/the-EGA-for-Man/Categories). I don't know anyone who has bought clothing from the ega male section, but their lolita stuff is hit or miss. Some things turn out perfectly, but sometimes they mess up measurements.
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I see, I guess there was some inconsistency within the resources I found while browsing and I was perhaps somewhat thrown off by the vast difference between the pictures you cited and the pictures those articles had cited.
I found some shoes at Good Will and a Tie and a Shirt at The Dig in Oak Grove. I think my biggest issues will be finding top hats, cravats, and tailed coats. I'm very particular about having coat tails; it's important to me. :>
I stumbled upon this site (link below), and I'm curious if anyone has any experience with it? Thus far this is the only site I've found that provides very clear and concise pictures of their menswear and meets my stylistic tastes.
http://www.retroscopefashions.com/mens.html
EDIT: I think I'll be getting one of these (http://www.riverjunction.com/catalog/hats/bellcrown.html) once I have the funds to do so. Anyone care to offer an opinion? Is there ever a situation where an aristocratic look isn't made better by an all-black, hand-crafted, wool-felt top hat? Also, would anyone care to reference a potentially less expensive source for such a garment?
EDIT2: btw, I believe you mean "Kodona", not "Kodana". I've noticed this error appears to be a consistent misspelling rather than a typo, so I figured I'd point it out to you.
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I've never seen that store before, but it looks fine to me. Some of the shiny stuff looks a bit iffy, but I doubt you'll go after anything that seems to be made with cheap-looking materials. That top hat is really nice.
You know, in my long time being a part of the lolita community, I always thought that it was spelled kodana. In my mind, that's how I pronounce it. And it's a big error, so thanks for correcting me. DX
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I like that they have a lot of little friendly notes to buyers such as the little warnings regarding sizes and such. I'll probably steer away from the Satin, because I have found that it can tend to be a somewhat weak fibre, especially with more elaborate designs, but Rayon is pretty reliable in my experience; I have a few 70-year-old shirts made of Rayon which are still in great condition.
Not a problem; I'm glad you didn't take it as an insult or anything. I had been working with electronics for nearly two years before I found out that "solder" was pronounced /saw durr/. All the people at hardware stores had just been too polite to correct me. xP
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Sounds good! If you order from there, I'd love to see some pictures and coordinates.
Oh man, being in the egl community on livejournal gives you some thick skin. A lot of people today get insulted about such dumb things. I'm honestly glad you told me, because I'm sure I looked like a huge idiot and/or hypocrite.
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I live in a small society and I've always been afraid I wouldn't be accepted wearing my ELG. By now everyone in this small town knows me and they do understand my gothic style. I've been trying slowly to gradually bring in my lolita but it's still kind of hard to do... especially since I am an adult.
Any advice everyone?
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Fleur, you told me to come check out your thread so I did.
Sutie, comming from me, I'd say just go for it. In the lolita handbook there's nothing that discriminates on age. If your worried about being an 'adult' wearing Lolita, I'll join you in bringing it out. Granted my lolita's aren't finished, and I've had to sell most of them I'm sure I can dig one out and we can be Lolitas together.
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Wearing lolita outside for the first time is scary. But I suggest just taking the plunge. Bring a couple of friends, either in lolita or not, and just have a good time. If you are confident about what you're wearing, you'll feel great. You might get some comments, and you will definitely get stares, but you'll get compliments, too. If anyone tries to make you feel bad about what you're wearing, they're just stupid. They probably don't have very good self-esteem, like you do ;D
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You know I was looking for a skirt that would look good with my latest loli top today when I had to run outside and grab the mail. Yeah... it was like being on a show where you have the pleage. Moms telling their kids to stay away and I was even told by another lady that what I was wearing looked like it belonged in the bedroom. *sigh* Going all out is going to be interesting.
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Wow, what exactly were you wearing? I've had one woman tell me "you look very strange to me" while I was wearing a black half-bonnet, and I've worn a more toned-down version of this (http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs089.snc1/5080_1156983132102_1453449591_411067_936428_n.jpg) and got only compliments.
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-is a little late-
Thank you for all the links on the front page! :3
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Wow, what exactly were you wearing?
Oh, my! I just realized it might have sounded bad... I was wearing a short sleeve black top trimed with white lace and a black skirt to the knee with white stockings and my favorite black loli shoes. Nothing bad, that is if you were to ask me.
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I live in a small society and I've always been afraid I wouldn't be accepted wearing my EGL**. By now everyone in this small town knows me and they do understand my gothic style. I've been trying slowly to gradually bring in my lolita but it's still kind of hard to do... especially since I am an adult.
Any advice everyone?
From what I know, many people into EGL are in fact adults. Probably because they can actually afford the clothes *_*; So no problem there...
It can be good and bad that you're in a smaller community. Since it's smaller and many people know you and see you often, they'll sort of be forced to accept it after a while. Or they'll accept it quicker. Just do what you're doing; gradually bringing aspects of it in, or just go full-out one day. Er... Just nothing too extravagant, though. I would stick to casual Loli, or outfits that wouldn't be too much of a burden to wear, but by the description of your outfit, that doesn't seem to be much of a problem. O-o
The reactions you got are kind of weird though. Was that just one day? Gee. Either you were (maybe even unintentionally) wearing something inappropriate, or that's a close-minded community. o_o; The only thing I can think of that would make it look weird is if your skirt was too short or you were wearing stripper shoes. Or your skirt was flipped up and you didn't know it :'D
If you want to wear it, just wear it though. You can't force people to like it unfortunately, but there will be people that will support it. Just do what you like to do and ignore the rude comments. As Fleur said, it's always good to bring along friends to help you forget all the bad stuff.
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That doesn't sound bad at all :/ You live in Oregon, right? What area?
Hazuza is right, a lot of lolitas are adults. I think a majority are in college, and I've even met some in person who were older than that. Lolita is so great, you can be any age, any gender, any shape, and any race and still look fabulous in it.
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haha, true. Lolita looks fabulos always!
I live in Seaside. I think the problem is that in my everyday life I'm in contact with all over college age. Just gotta keep 'em guessing I supose ^^
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When you get away from Portland or Eugene; even just outside of the downtown areas, Oregon's pretty conservative. Coastal cities also seem to lean towards middle-age and elderly populations which will often be adverse to obscure or foreign fashions. It's easier to manipulate with the male fashions, but it might just be that you're wearing an outfit that's more of an urban style. You might try investigating some differences between "normal" outfits worn in urban and rural/micro-urban settings and adjust your lolita outfit with similar modifications. For instance, when I go to the beach, or to visit family in Texas, or anywhere that isn't a liberal urban area, I'll wear slacks, boots, and a nice-looking silk shirt, and I'll tie my hair back when I want to look nicer. In my normal habitat, I'd wear a suit (unless it's a hot day) and penny loafers to accomplish the same ends, and I'd leave my hair down or partly down.
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So Charlie wanted me to make this thread live again, and I don't have anything else to do, so here we go XD
And for this bump, I give you guys two of my outfits. The first isn't so recent, and the second is:
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm3.static.flickr.com%2F2602%2F3881495879_2b7c344028.jpg&hash=b6533f96400af6a0f28d5424f6c4836386fbb359)
Kcon pre-reg outfit XD You can't see my boots, but they have the most ridiculous heels ever. I call them my stripper boots. I also wore this while walking from the Hilton to Voodoo Donuts. WORST. IDEA. EVER.
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3458%2F3978818186_6f7d08377e.jpg&hash=d85772e0b471ed278c42afd75290f0d76127edc8)
And an outfit I wore a couple of weekends ago. Ignore my durpy face >: I'll also be wearing this outfit to a lolita thing this weekend.
Hey Hazuza, you're going, right? I'm poppingummies on lj, and it took me a sec to realize why your username sounded so familar when I saw it on there.
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Ah, yeah, I want to. c: That's cool, I thought I wouldn't know anyone xD;
But two things; my friend wanted me to help her with filming something... And also, I'm afraid it might be way too cold out *_*; The weather report says rain... I've never been to the zoo, so I'm not sure what it'd be like in bad weather o~o;
I feel stupid though, this would be the second time I've said I'd come but bailed DDD: How often do meetups come around?
I like that first skirt btw :3
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Ehhh the next one I know we'll probably have will be in February. We've been going to the Chocolate Festival for two years in a row, so we'll probably go again, and it's in February. Some of the more well-known girls haven't been as into lolita, so they don't get as many people to come. This'll probably be a small meet.
Don't worry about not knowing anyone! You'll know me! :D And ffff yesterday and the day before they said Sunday wasn't going to have rain, or just "AM rain," so I guess the forecast changed? Just pile on the layers, like what I'm doing.
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Heeeeeey, I just noticed this thread! For my senior project, I'm making (currently replicating with adjustments) Lolita outfits, and for the second half of the project I need to find a client to make an outfit of their choice for them. I can't charge any money for this, but you would get to keep the outfit... (You'd still need to pay for fabric though, but that is the only thing I'm charging) It'd be fitted to your body, because I'd be making a dressform based specifically to your body (which you could also keep if you wanted, I suppose!). You'd recieve your outfit (needs to be a petticoat, full dress or skirt+blouse, and headpiece) after February once I've been judged by my panel, but of course you could come try it once it's done in around mid-late December (just in time for Christmas, woooo...Though on that note, I'm not good enough yet to work with fake fur or wool, so I can't make any Winter dresses, sorry..).
Right now I'm doing http://annahousefashion.com/015-1152.jpg (with some changes to the fabric) and as far as I can tell, the website uses sweatshops to make the garments and, uhh, I'm sweatshop free! 8D;;;;
So, uhh, if any of you might be interested in this I can post some progress pictures of the muslin I'm working with right now in a couple weeks... If not though, could you perhaps direct me to a good place to "advertise?"
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I want to make a lolita Mario outfit someday =,)
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I should ask my drummer if he'll be my "female" counterpart.
IT WOULD BE BRILLIANT! :D
We recently started a sweet lolita/eurobeat band called 美味しい夢 「Oishii Yume AKA Delicious Dream」 as a side-project, so we'll keep you all posted on that
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Heeeeeey, I just noticed this thread! For my senior project, I'm making (currently replicating with adjustments) Lolita outfits, and for the second half of the project I need to find a client to make an outfit of their choice for them. I can't charge any money for this, but you would get to keep the outfit... (You'd still need to pay for fabric though, but that is the only thing I'm charging) It'd be fitted to your body, because I'd be making a dressform based specifically to your body (which you could also keep if you wanted, I suppose!). You'd recieve your outfit (needs to be a petticoat, full dress or skirt+blouse, and headpiece) after February once I've been judged by my panel, but of course you could come try it once it's done in around mid-late December (just in time for Christmas, woooo...Though on that note, I'm not good enough yet to work with fake fur or wool, so I can't make any Winter dresses, sorry..).
Right now I'm doing http://annahousefashion.com/015-1152.jpg (with some changes to the fabric) and as far as I can tell, the website uses sweatshops to make the garments and, uhh, I'm sweatshop free! 8D;;;;
So, uhh, if any of you might be interested in this I can post some progress pictures of the muslin I'm working with right now in a couple weeks... If not though, could you perhaps direct me to a good place to "advertise?"
A good place to advertise would be the egl community on livejournal:
http://community.livejournal.com/egl/
But I'd be interested, too ;D I don't have the best measurements, though.
I want to make a lolita Mario outfit someday =,)
If it turns out well, that's good, but "cosplay lolita" is generally frowned upon.
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Frowned upon? Why :O
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Yeah, and who's doing the frowning? :'O
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One reason, I guess, is since Lolita is an actual fashion or lifestyle for some people, when others wear it as a costume it feels kind of degrading. Or something like that oxo;
But themed Lolita outfits have worked out well in the past, so I don't see why not xD; Especially if it's just going to be at a con or something.
Edited for messed-up runon sentence x___x
And sorry I didn't make the meetup x-x; I'm sick... Hopefully next time...
You guys should have more! D:
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One reason, I guess, is since Lolita is an actual fashion or lifestyle for some people, and when others wear it as a costume, it feels kind of degrading. Or something like that oxo;
But themed Lolita outfits have worked out well in the past, so I don't see why not xD; Especially if it's just going to be at a con or something.
I agree Lolita is an actual style of fashion.
I know everything about the dresses but how do you pros coordinate your accessories with your outfits. What accessories are appropriate for lolita fashion? (for example top hats or bonnets, purses, umbrellas etc.)
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Hazuza: I was me and a friend, and one other girl showed up. But it turned out that another girl actually did show up, but before we did, and she went out into the zoo before we got there. We ended up meeting up with her for a little while. She was at kcon actually; she was the super awesome Tira. We're planning another meet soon to go see Where the Wild Things Are, and I'll actually be on time this time XD I hope you're feeling better though. <3
meep: I usually go with simple accessories. Most of my jewelery is from Target or Forever 21, which surprised some people. For hair stuff, I usually do an updo, like pigtails, or the side ponytail in my avatar picture. Then I wear a little bow or something. I really like huge bonnets, but they're not super popular, since a lot of people think they're too costumey and over the top. For hats, mini top hats used to be really in, but they've fallen out of style. Same with headdresses. People started associating them with maxipads, and it went downhill from there XD But berets are popular; some Japanese brands have released some patterned ones that are really cute. Some elaborate Victorian hats look nice with gothic styles, but I mostly wear sweet, so I can't go into detail about them. Oh and there's a love-hate relationship on egl on lj with cake hats. Basically, mini cakes that are on a ribbon/headband that go on your head. I think they look cute, but some people, again, say they look costumey.
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Got it! Simple is best! Thanks =D
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Simple isn't always best. :B
When I dress up, I usually wear anything from leg warmers to huge bows, and tons of colors. C:
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Simple is best when you're starting out. As you start to get a feel for the style, you can start experimenting with things.
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Heeeeeey, I just noticed this thread! For my senior project, I'm making (currently replicating with adjustments) Lolita outfits, and for the second half of the project I need to find a client to make an outfit of their choice for them. I can't charge any money for this, but you would get to keep the outfit... (You'd still need to pay for fabric though, but that is the only thing I'm charging) It'd be fitted to your body, because I'd be making a dressform based specifically to your body (which you could also keep if you wanted, I suppose!). You'd recieve your outfit (needs to be a petticoat, full dress or skirt+blouse, and headpiece) after February once I've been judged by my panel, but of course you could come try it once it's done in around mid-late December (just in time for Christmas, woooo...Though on that note, I'm not good enough yet to work with fake fur or wool, so I can't make any Winter dresses, sorry..).
Right now I'm doing http://annahousefashion.com/015-1152.jpg (with some changes to the fabric) and as far as I can tell, the website uses sweatshops to make the garments and, uhh, I'm sweatshop free! 8D;;;;
So, uhh, if any of you might be interested in this I can post some progress pictures of the muslin I'm working with right now in a couple weeks... If not though, could you perhaps direct me to a good place to "advertise?"
I wanna be a client! xD Good luck on your Senior project =3 I bet it'll be loads of phunn~
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ONE DAY I WILL JOIN THE SWEET LOLITA COMMUNITY!!!
*cough* Uhmm.. yeah... So... Any tips on places to buy
reasonably priced petticoats that give you that full bell look?
how many do you use or what type? Do you use bloomers too?
And where do you purchase these? or do you make them? and
if you make them, where is a good place to find a pattern? I
have been wanting and wanting to finally get into SweLoli and
maybe even a little Elegant Gothic Lolita, but so far... my trips
to the fabric depot have ended in me confused, unsure and
worried that I'm never gonna figure out what I want.
I have dreams of looking like a 1950's house wife every day of
my life, but I also love the over all style of EGL and Sweet Lolita
and would like to start there and then tone it down to that classic
american mom look as I get older... does that make sense? I just
need to figure out from real loli's... where you get started, and
who to trust on bloomers and petticoats and... more specifically,
REAL corsets! I am in dire need of a real serious corset if I am
to really do loli right (chubby girl for the win!) but I hate all these
fake bedroom corsets and I want something that wont include
frills or ruffles so that it can be well hidden under my clothes...
any suggestions?
~Allykat
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Awesome to know! Thankxx buches of oats!
This year I'm trying to go as a chesire cat loilta
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AllyKat: For Petticoats- a good place to start is Red Light in Hawthorne. Get a bunch of petticoats, and layer them; I've seen it done and the poof was amazing. Or you could get one from several places online; like In The Starlight or Candy Violet. Mine is from this Canadian webshop called "Lacy's" or something; and it is a bit iffy.
For Bloomers: You can commission these pretty easily on egl_comm_sales, or you can make your own. I made my own and I like them a lot. The pattern is pretty simple, but you have to make it yourself. I'll find you the link when I can.
I don't think you need a corset- they tend to look (I think) kind of funny with lolita. They can be done well with ero or sometimes gothic, but generally, they're not needed. You don't need to be thin to wear lolita, so don't worry about your body <3
squiggle: Do you have a picture of what you have in mind? Cheshire Cat Lolita is a concept that a lot of newbies to the style try to pick up, but a lot of the time, it ends up looking like a costume.
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OKAY I'M RESURRECTING THIS.
So uhh... Hazu went to the last meetup I went to. It was fun. We went to Candyland.
I'm going to try to run a lolita fashion show/panel at Kcon this year.
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I would like a link for a bloomers pattern if you have such a thing :O
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I'll need to search for it since I switched computers since that post and I lost my favorites.
Basically though I just cut out four pieces of fabric that are shaped like an L, sew them together at the sides, then put elastic in the waistband and legs. They're nothing fancy, and I don't even take measurements. But I'll definitely find you the tutorial.
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http://community.livejournal.com/egl/4904975.html
^is one~
I really should get to making a pair :I But I'm so lazy.
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http://community.livejournal.com/egl/4904975.html
^is one~
I really should get to making a pair :I But I'm so lazy.
Oh yeah that's a good one. I have another one but I ended up modifying it because my bloomers turned out weird. So use that one.
So Hazu, you going to the Alice in Wonderland meet? You should because I'll be there :B
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Has a date been settled?
I'm not sure... I want to see it, but I might end up busy. .3.; And I don't like buying tickets online or anything, It'd be nice if the meet was early (as in early enough to buy the tickets) and we waited around somewhere for it to start.
Haha, but if I go, there comes the other hassle of deciding what to wear *n*; I've been unintentionally making accessories to make a White Rabbit inspired costume, so I might make ears or something to complete that and go in boystyle :'D But it's weird how I haven't been to a lolita meetup in lolita yet.
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i went as a lolita last year
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Hazu: As far as I know, it's the the 7th. That's what the latest thread says, at least. And it's always cool to have boystyle! Your outfit last time was awesome. I might be going to see the movie at its midnight premiere, and if so I'm going to make a Queen of Hearts outfit that's super Rococo/lolita inspired. If you wear white rabbit, I'll be the queen ;D
Tanuki: Where?
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Kumoricon. i had a black, red, and white lolita dress with a cat eared hood
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Do you have pictures?
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i dont actually think i have any... XD
i could put on my outfit someday soon and take some. it would look super cute with my new haircut.
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Okay. Are you okay with receiving concrit on your outfit? The goal of me making this thread is to help people along the path of being a really good lolita.
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uh, sure! i didnt make it though, i bought it while i was in japan. i can give you a link to what the outfit looks like if you want.
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Oh, where did you buy it?
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Body Line in Harujuku [i'm working on getting some pictures of the outfit from their website right now! :3 ]
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okay!
here's the dress
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi995.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf72%2Ftanukiluffstyki%2Fdressdressdressohmygoddress.jpg&hash=f764bfe088edee0b9f674481fefb44c0eabad303)
and here's the shoes
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi995.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf72%2Ftanukiluffstyki%2Fshoesshoesshoesohmygodshoes.jpg&hash=7cb0fa46fec55b9b76f3c677312c359132232fa2)
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Oh, Bodyline! Bodyline is pretty hit-and-miss with their outfits. A few years ago it was like a swear word amongst lolitas. People wouldn't be caught dead wearing it! But not long ago they started having nicer designs, although most of them are ripped off of brands like Baby the Stars Shine Bright and Innocent World. I have a pair of shoes and a bag from Bodyline and I love them.
The dress you have is cute, but not really the most lolita. It's a great punk outfit though!
I was going to order the shoes you have, but they were sold out in my size. I got these instead, in white:
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi843.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz360%2Fma-ka-san%2Fshoes170-2.jpg&hash=312545b8afe85fdfa59603b27cc64b924fca5038)
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those shoes are really cute! i got the shoes that i did because they didnt have heels and SEEMED easy to walk in. XD
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@Tanu- I have the same shoes in white, and... You're right, it's impossible to walk in them X_x; Well, after a while, I got used to them, but it's still sort of awkward...
Really, whose idea was it to make the soles completely flat? Dx
And I saw someone pull off that dress pretty well before, actually. It looks a lot better on people (maybe just shorter people? *^*; ) than on the mannequin
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Are they hard to walk in?
I'm pretty fail with heels, but the shoes I got have thick heels and are slightly platform, so they're pretty easy to walk in and they're comfortable.
EDIT: Oh haha the soles are flat XD The soles on mine are flat too, but they're heels so its less obvious. Although the best part is that the heel is like a centimeter shorter than the rest of the shoe. OH BODYLINE~
Have you heard of rocking horse shoes? I want to get a pair of those; I tried on a pair once and I'm so convinced I'll kill myself walking in them.
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I want some. ouo Simply because I'd have so much fun just... standing.
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@Hazuza- yeah, the dress looks alot better on a person than that mannequin. and i happen to be a little on the short side so it works XD
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Hazu: I want a pair to baffle my friends and family. I tried on Renee's at the Candyland meet and they were pretty easy to walk in. SUPER tall though.
Tanuki: Were you at Mewcon? Because now that I think about it, I think I saw you in that dress.
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nope, never been to Mewcon
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*runs to google to figure out what rocking horse shoes are* holy handbaskets! you could kill yourself in those!!! o.O
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I know right? XD I already have bad balance but man I want rocking horse shoes... I tried walking in a pair and it was easy except, like the name, your foot totally rocked forward when you took a step. Once you have practice it's probably less weird.
I want my black lolita shoes to be rocking horse shoes.
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i would probably just die instantly just trying to stand in them! i have terrible balance. xD
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OH! I want a pair of rocking horse shoes...though I doubt I could walk in them...
[slightly slow] wait, there's an AIW meetup?
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Tanuki: I actually tried to fall backwards in them, if that makes sense. The ones I tried on were the kind with the chunk missing from the back heel, and I tried leaning back far enough to fall but I couldn't do it.
I really want these version of RHS
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi843.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz360%2Fma-ka-san%2Flolita%2F20100111013503_932.jpg&hash=acb4ebcf782a7909167102ad9b90ff0f085a37eb)
Up until last night I thought they stopped making them, but I think these are replicas or something. But look how tall they are!
Haley: Yeah on the 7th at Bridgeport, we're going to see Alice in 3D. I was thinking maybe I'd go to both that and midnight with you and Rachel if you guys let me tag along.
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Haley: Yeah on the 7th at Bridgeport, we're going to see Alice in 3D. I was thinking maybe I'd go to both that and midnight with you and Rachel if you guys let me tag along.
Could I go to that one, too? My mom said no to midnight premier cause it's a school night -sigh-
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yeah I was wondering about that >: But if you want tomorrow, I can help you put some more lolita elements into your outfit if you want to come to the meetup.
What would Rachel's costume be, btw?
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Cool, I'll bring my design and some pencils. I think she wanted to be the white rabbit. we should talk to her on monday.
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Hey guys! ^^
So since you guys already have a lolita thread going on I just decided to pop in here xD
I currently am selling a gothic lolita dress if anyone is interested for $40 ^^ It's in almost perfect condition since I've only worn it once to try on and thats about it =D
If you guys are interested or want more info on it, please go to this link:
http://www.kumoricon.org/forums/index.php?topic=12541.msg561181#new
Thanks so much for your time haha ^^
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Hey, do any of you know were I could get a gothic and (or) sweet lilita dress?
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Ooh yes! ^^ There are many places that you can go to~
Personally, I like Bodyline because of the friendly prices ^^ The quality is pretty good also! =D
More expensive places are Angelic Pretty, Cosmates and a loooot more xD
But Bodyline is easy on ordering and shipping AND quality! ^^ There is a sale currently too~ =D
http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/
Happy shopping! ^^
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Body's stuff is sometimes iffy. Stay away from the "seperate" section for sure. Lately their dresses and skirts have been nice though, and they have some good shoes and bags. Anna House (http://www.annahousefashion.com/) is also nice. I want to get a blouse and/or dress from there. The prices are in Hong Kong Dollars, not USD, so don't think a dress is $700 XD Their stuff is pretty affordable.
So I'm going to a lolita meetup on Sunday to go see Alice in Wonderland! Haley, Hazu, and Dana are going too. Forum invasion haha.
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I'm starting to get into gothic lolita but I'm totally inexperienced in the makeup department.
Does anyone have any makeup tips for subtly enhancing a gothic lolita look?
Oh, also, my hair is quite short, does that automatically make me anti-lolita? And I was thinking about dying it, what colors are lolitalicious?
Sorry if my questions seem really dumb =,D
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Excellent questions!
For makeup, what's popular with gothic is heavy eye makeup, then light blush, and either light or dark lips. Aim for is a slightly mature but still cute look.
Here (http://www.avantgauche.co.uk/Gallery/beauty.html) are some GLB scans of makeup, although most of them are out of date, and are from the late 90's or early 2000's.
However, the number one rule: DON'T DO WHITEFACE. And number 2 rule: DON'T DO BLACK LIPSTICK. Either of those will make you look like you're a Hot Topic kid trying to be GOFFIC RORI.
And for hair, pretty much anything goes as long as you keep it clean and nice. Same with color, although use your brain when coordinating with hair colors. Red hair doesn't always work with pink, for example.
A lot of newbies think "oh, this hair color is more lolita" or such things, but don't worry! Look at other lolitas on places like daily_lolita for inspiration, almost anything can be done well.
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Thanks for the detailed response!
Heavy but not overdone eyes, light blush, light or dark lips. I got this ~
Hopefully soon I can get some makeup and experiment with it to see what works best for me.~
On my hair, I'm thinking I'll either go a light brown/caramelly color, or black, maybe with some cherry red streaks. Are color streaks a lolita no-no? I'm thinking that the colors that would most be in my lolita attire would be red, black and white, so at the very least I wouldn't have to worry about clashing with pink :D
AND THAT MUSIC NOTE DRESS ON THE LOLITA LJ IS AWESOMEEE~
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Yeah, just experiment. Whatever looks good on you should look good in loli.
Pshaw, color streaks are fine. Do whatever you want!
And what dress? I want to see! D:
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THIS ONEEE http://community.livejournal.com/daily_lolita/3127547.html#cutid1 ~
We should have a lolita tea party sometime, that sounds so fun and adorable :O
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Oh, that's from Bodyline! Right around the time they started selling nicer things. They don't sell it anymore, as far as I know >:
I know there's going to be a lolita meet at Oaks Park on May 1st, but I may or may not be able to go because I'm going to prom that day.
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I LOVE OAKS PARK ~
But that's too soon for me *3*
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WHY DID I NEVER RESPOND.
So I'm to revive this thread again, and tell you guys that International Lolita Day is June 5th! There are two Lolita Days a year, one in summer and one in winter.
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Some girls on lj decided to make Internation Lolita Days, and it caught on.
It's mostly only known in the English-speaking communities.
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I have a question. Ive been trying to get into Kodona/Oji/Dandy for quite some time but its proving near impossible for me to find good references or a style guide, not to mention stores online. Is this an okay place to ask for help on this? If not I understand, Im just not sure where else I can ask for help. Thank you in advance!
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Okay, I see your problem. I feel bad because I don't know a whole lot about kodona or boystyle, but I know a good outfit when I see one.
The first time I met Hazuza, she was wearing an awesome boystyle outfit, so I'm hoping she'll see this and point you in the right direction >_>
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Haha, I just happen to have a lot of clothes like that *-*
My internet's freaking out right now, so this is all from my head and probably not too reliable. Take it as you will xD
A lot of stores that sell EGA, punk, and even lolita have some boystyle mixed in. Some good places to browse are Black Peace Now, Fan+Friend, Alice and the Pirates, and h.Naoto. I have a few pictures, but I don't know when I'll get to upload them :c
When you're doing boystyles, you need to be careful to differentiate it from just looking like a well-dressed guy. For example, you don't want to be wearing a suit, tie and slacks.
Top: Tailcoats are amazing. Try not to use a dress shirt, but instead a long-collared or ruffly blouse. A blouse alone can, but usually doesn't, look good, so find a vest or a good suit-like top. (If I had to describe those, I'd say they're sort of... angular? Boystyle tops usually have tails in the back and/or front, and a collar like a suit.)
Bottom: Awhellwhatarethosecalled. For kodona (young/boyish styles) Pants that are a little poofy and cut off under, or above the knee look good. I forget what they're called (knickers? lol idk) but they're based on a style of pants that boys wore that are mid-calf with a drawstring at the bottom rim, and when the boys got older they worked like shorts. When you wear these, be sure to have socks that cover your whole exposed leg. Just like lolita, you don't show a lot of skin *n*!!
I also see a lot of people wear patterned pants (plaid, for example) that use a pattern from somewhere else in the outfit. )Not sure how in style this still is, since they look like pajamas to me.( Aristocratic styles usually have long bell-bottom pants.
Since the pants are usually pretty plain, you want to balance the outfit by wearing a top with long tails, or have accessories on the lower-body as well, like patches/patterns on the pants, chains, a "skirt" or buttflap, boots, buttons (not pins) or patterned socks (which I never think look good but w/e)
Accessories: Never wear a tie. I see it done, but it looks too modern... You could tie a tie the way you would a ribbon, which looks a lot more geared to the style. You should, however use a cravat/jabot (I forget which was which haaa), or a small ribbon, possibly with a necklace or crest over it. You pretty much always want something on your collar. Punk and gothic elements are often seen in boystyle, like chains, crosses, etc. You can also wear a brooch, rings, etc.
Dressy gloves look neat, but avoid shiny ones ono
A hat completes the outfit. Just be careful not to use one too girly. Don't let it look too plain, though. Get a patterned hat or add accessories to it, like feathers, flowers, chains/pendants, etc. Accessories are usually silver, gold, black, or whatever the accent color in your outfit is. You don't want it too clashy and overpowering unless it's for a single piece (black/red doesn't look that great ._. Dark red, or a red plaid can.)
Shoes: Again, try not to wear something too girly. You want something square-ish and clunky instead of pointed or round. Boots can work, too. If you want height, use platforms. Heels can work, especially in aristocratic styles where the pants can hide the heel, but you want to go for wide heels, which can be harder to find. I personally like wearing creepers |3
Boystyle is mostly done in white, and in dark tones. However, I really want to make a "sweet" style outfit, soon as I can think of something ._.
And don't worry about following all of this. Since it isn't done as often, it's a lot less strict and more experimental. Just play around with that, using those as some general guidelines.
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You're amazing, Hazu.
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@Hazuza: Thank you! Wow, that was extremely helpful. Thank you so much for typing all of that out, I really appreciate it.
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No prob. I have nothing better to do today, really. ._.
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Daw. You know, I forget about F+F a lot. I just checked, and they have some nice stuff, nowadays. They have this (http://www.fanplusfriend.com/servlet/the-1525/Gothic-Lolita-Under-Bust/Detail) corset that I want ffffff. Also I kind of want a blouse from them.
Actually, I don't know if I want a blouse from them or Anna House... And I still need shoes from Qutieland.
EDIT: NO I WANT THIS (http://www.fanplusfriend.com/servlet/the-1407/Vintage-Gothic-Pocket-Hoops/Detail) HNNNNNG LOOK HOW AWESOME THAT IS~
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Daw. You know, I forget about F+F a lot. I just checked, and they have some nice stuff, nowadays. They have this (http://www.fanplusfriend.com/servlet/the-1525/Gothic-Lolita-Under-Bust/Detail) corset that I want ffffff. Also I kind of want a blouse from them.
Actually, I don't know if I want a blouse from them or Anna House... And I still need shoes from Qutieland.
EDIT: NO I WANT THIS (http://www.fanplusfriend.com/servlet/the-1407/Vintage-Gothic-Pocket-Hoops/Detail) HNNNNNG LOOK HOW AWESOME THAT IS~
Well I'm an idiot. I looked at that and thought you wore it over your clothes xDD
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OH U.
But man, wouldn't that really make any outfit super interesting? It totally gives the outfits an edgy Rococo vibe.
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I'm planning a Goth Lolita dress this year. (It's actually based off a male character. XD)
But I have a little issue. While I'm fairly sure this is a lolita, I'm not sure. (Really, how lame am I?)
I mean, either way, I'm going to make it but I don't want to say "lolita" and be simply...wrong.
So, I made a few sketches and I was hoping someone could let me know if this is considered lolita and also how I could alter the design to make it better.
(And fair warning, these aren't to scale or proportional. Plus I made them on Photoshop. Sorry!)
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq42/XxAnimexGurlxX/LolitaEdward1.jpg
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq42/XxAnimexGurlxX/LolitaEdward2.jpg
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq42/XxAnimexGurlxX/LolitaEdward3.jpg
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Okay, I honestly see very little lolita in the outfit. You're trying to base it off of Edward, right?
Just looking up Edward's outfit, I have an idea in my mind of what you could do. There are two options that come to mind:
1. A rococo-themed outfit, with a dress similar to this (http://sakurafairy.deviantart.com/art/Lolita-Rococo-Dress-102799312). The over-part, which is green in the picture, could be his red coat. The under part could be black, and you could use nice white lace as an accent.
2. A more traditional outfit. A black skirt, a black blouse, with the red coat over it. It could either be a cloak-type thing, like he wears, or a more structured blazer.
If you don't like my ideas, here is what I think could be improved about your idea:
-Front lacing is a bad idea. It rarely looks good, even when "official" Japanese brands use it.
-The skirt looks really short. I know you said it's not to scale, but still. Skirts need to be around knee length, give or take an inch.
-The red ruffly part makes it look like something from Hot Topic. If you need a red accent, try a simple red ruffle along the bottom of the skirt.
-Thin straps are generally a no-no. It just looks cheap.
-Please wear a blouse! The neckline of the dress would be fine over a blouse, but just plain, it'll show too much chest and look bad.
Hope that helps!
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katie, you should help me with a lolitaish cosplay i wanted to do last year!!!
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Lol okay, what is it?
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well at one point in time, i wanted to do lolita roxas lol if i could do it well, and i mean REALLY WELL, I would.
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Ahaha oh god XD Haley you'd be attacked by smelly whales.
"CAN I HAVE A HUG?"
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And I've seen some REALLY BAD "lol rorita" Roxas costumes.
Don't do it, Haley! ;-;
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yeah, thats the thing holding me back >_> stupid fangirls
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We'll pick out a better thing to do a lolita version of...
Did you mention you wanted to do Miku lolita or something?
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nope...but maybe I could make death the girl lolita...
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...Okay XD
At the lolita dinner at Sak, one of the girls' boyfriend was dressed as Speed Racer and I mentioned that I had wanted to do a Speed Racer lolita outfit, and I already had all the pieces pretty much done. The girls were all into it, and we were like "oh let's do a group of lolita cosplay!"
It was funny.
And I'm not giving up Speed Racer loli!
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I WILL~
Speed Racer even told me how he did his helmet, so I can get an awesome helmet too~
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-sjc1%2Fhs412.snc3%2F24906_1384786107034_1453449591_998274_7264234_n.jpg&hash=534adc6058ee8659054ead0a8a74d4662597ccc3)
HE WAS SO COOL. AND HIS GIRLFRIEND WAS SO NICE AND PRETTY.
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I'm baaaaaack!
Okay, so I basically altered the dress.
I added a short sleve. I am keeping them short simply because the dress itself will probably not be worn without the jacket.
I also changed the lace fronting (thanks for the tip!) for something a bit simpler.
And again, this is still not proportional.
I'm sorry. I know it looks kind of bad but...I'm being lazy. ^^"
http://i432.photobucket.com/albums/qq42/XxAnimexGurlxX/LolitaEdwardBase2.jpg
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Okay, the shape of the skirt seems to be a problem.
Your skirt is shaped like an umbrella, going out like a trapezoid. What you need is a bell-shaped skirt, and that would help a lot.
Also the neckline is still weird, I think. It looks really low, which would be fine, except the sleeves would make it awkward to wear a blouse under.
It's definitely an improvement though, good job!
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Hey guys
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2F34febea_th.png&hash=8096fdd4fd9bbbdfb0c2594c48da6df70d35452a) (http://i41.tinypic.com/34febea.png)
my basis for design:
-Ed wears a black jacket under the red one. Try incorporating this as a cardigan tied with a silver string (like his buckle) and have a jumperskirt underneath.
-The cape is ed's signature item (well, automail aside) so it'd be nice if you didn't alter it. I think it'd be fine longer than the skirt.
-Ed isn't so "gothic". He wears white, black and red. Try not to use so much redxblack, or it looks to costume-goth D: I would even use a toned down red instead of something striking as you would normally make for Ed. Also, his gloves would be fine with this, and would add a nice touch of white.
-Cosplays usually are made up of big details rather than tiny ones (usually) so try bias tape and ruffles instead of any lace. This should cut down costs a bit, too.
-Boots can work with lolita, depending on the outfit... His boots might work here, but I'm not so sure...
-Oh yeah, and you might want OTK socks or tights to hide your "automail" 8'D I think it'd be neat if you could like... idk, draw on one of the socks somehow or have some sort of padding inside to make it look like automail was underneath. Orrrr that might look terrible, I wouldn't know.
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Wow. That's amazing. O.O
Geh. I've always had bad dress making skills (thus my many experiences in crossplay XD).
Thanks! That is really helpful!
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Lenalee wants to dress Allen up in Lolita.
;U;
*is shottt*
eheheheheh, I'll design it at school tomorrow! bwahahaha!
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yay lolita. I got my dress and once my friend saw it he freaked. due to it was the dress he wanted to get for his girlfriend. and i have it in black and white. I yet to finshes my outfit due to I feel way to much like a doll and I do not have time to make the head pice that i want to go with it.
It's kinda maid looking but its very pretty following the rule of not showing to much skin. Its good you are helping others with lolita its a very hard fashion to follow. Theres are a lot of do and donts as well. rember you dont have to have long hair to do lolita short is hair fine as well and there are many cute hair styals you can do.
anyways wondering if you guys can help me find a head pice that is white or black even both for my black and white pokadot outfit I have and a red headpice that my friends like to call my punk lolita. I dont have photos for it but anyways any ideas i would love to hear them.
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Oh, you could just make a black Alice bow with white trim.
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Yeah, rectangle(ish) headpieces are really out of style now. An alice bow, or even a hat or a headband might look better.
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fff pics (withruler) and how much length you have? ono (I know I've seen it but still xD)
First thing that comes to mind is a simple floral print jsk or dress with that by the bottom of the skirt and at the neckline (but hanging downwards)
WHICH ISN'T VERY DESCRIPTIVE I KNOW~
When it's wide, I don't think twotoned lace would look that well unless you'd a decent fabric that would balance both colors evenly... You could have a set of white ruffles at the bottom of your skirt (or under your lace, wherever you use it) so the white blends in a bit, still providing detail (kind of like this (http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/photos/l130-2.jpg) but not sure how well that'd look with two colors)
When all else fails, you can make accessories. C:
sohaha I think bringing it with you fabric shopping and finding a good fabric to go with it would be a start. Whenever you use a patterned fabric, it's best to make a simple garment, so narrowing down a design should be easy once you have a choice or two.
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'nother topic: I want to start decoden-ing, maybe just a little to get more accessories, but the best and probably cheapest way is to get supplies in groups, and I doubt I'd use them all x-x (like a pack of 12 little bear things, I'd probably only want 2...) Even if you make your own little cookies or something, it'd be a waste of money not to use all that clay and caulk D<
SO, does anyone decoden, or would anyone be interested in a workshop where we pooled our supplies? :0
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Dana: Post pics! It sounds cute!
Hazu: YESSSS. I want to decoden stuff, but I don't have anything much to deco >: I don't like my phone and will hopefully be getting a new one. I kinda want to deco my DS, or maybe my iPod. I should pick up some clear cases...
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Hey guys! I was just wondering if I could have some feed back and opinions on a outfit I made back in December.. Its technically a Hatsune Miku loli but IDK. I BARELY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LOLITA.
And I was thinking about fixing it based on your opinion.
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi278.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk83%2Fbramblehomie2%2FmikuWINTEROUTFITUPLOAD1.jpg&hash=5995ffe5e8a32ca526e752e0c53422f4fef79bde)
Close up
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi278.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fkk83%2Fbramblehomie2%2F15835_106071886075147_1000001700953.jpg&hash=672b4c09382c8e7cef45a57fff073072e204f07f)
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These things jump out at me immediately:
-The skirt looks a bit too long and not full enough
-The sleeves give the outfit a really strong costume-like look. Gathered full sleeves and bell sleeves are kind of out of fashion.
-Whitexblue is kind of awkward. This is mostly a personal opinion, but I think that outfits that are a color (other than white) on white look... Not very good. It gives it a super 80's/90's Mana feel.
-The big shiny ribbons look awkward and also costumey.
Would you want to modify the outfit or completely remake it?
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These things jump out at me immediately:
-The skirt looks a bit too long and not full enough
-The sleeves give the outfit a really strong costume-like look. Gathered full sleeves and bell sleeves are kind of out of fashion.
-Whitexblue is kind of awkward. This is mostly a personal opinion, but I think that outfits that are a color (other than white) on white look... Not very good. It gives it a super 80's/90's Mana feel.
-The big shiny ribbons look awkward and also costumey.
Would you want to modify the outfit or completely remake it?
Just modify/see what your opinion was :3 thanks
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I think if you just take off the long part of the sleeves and wear a petticoat it'll look nice. Maybe lose the satin ribbon (on your collar) and use a sewn bow instead?
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I think if you just take off the long part on the sleeves and wear a petticoat it'll look nice. Maybe lose the satin ribbon and use a sewn bow instead?
Ok! Thanks! :3
hmmmm how to wear a petticoat on it... Should It be under the skirt or over it?
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Under it! XD The petticoat is meant to poof out the skirt. Mine is made of netting, and it's like super soft tulle.
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under. lolita skirts should always cover the petticoat~
Not if you're a superhero ono!
(or maybe they wear bloomers.)
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-smack head on desk- LMAO I GOT A PETTICOAT MIXED UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE XD
My bad XD
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Go watch Marie Antoinette, the Sophia Coppola one~ That's my favorite movie.
White and gold sound really pretty, those two definitely go together. Very Rococo.
I've been wanting to do a hime-loli outfit for a while, but I want to wait until I lose more weight to do it.
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HOW HAVE YOU NOT SEEN MARIE ANTOINETTE?!
I was thinking white with gold accents, like actual shiny gold. You're smart, you can use shiny without looking cheap.
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pbfff I just imagined you two yelling at eachother and then talking nicely to eachother xD
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Haley: that's exactly what we were doing, duh. Also, get on MSN.
Well Baby used to sell some cute hime-esque dresses, but right now there aren't too many. Anyways, I think OPs tend to look better with hime because the square necklace/half sleeves can be done, and a blouse can make that look funny.
I'm looking at Baby's site now, and they have some JSKs that look hime styled:
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/jumper/134228.html
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/jumper/134227.html
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/jumper/134242.html
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Good plan ;D Baby used to have a super princessy dress that was ridiculous, I have the GLB with like four pages of it.
Yeah sleeves suck.
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sleeeeeves.
I tried making a bodice sloper the other day and couldn't figure it out. SLEEVES, HOW DO THEY WORK?
(seriously, someone give me a pattern or something. I've tried that "OP with gathered sleeves" tutorial and just got stuck various times.)
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Sewing sleeves to a shirt is easy. Sewing sleeves to an OP with a neckline is insaneeee *-*
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Yeah, it's really difficult. I mostly look at dresses online then take the parts that I like and put them into my own designs.
It's easy to do with AP since a lot of their dresses have wtf elements to them.
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blurry pic but HAVE I IMPROVED IT A BIT?
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs088.snc4/35766_138520556163613_100000170095330_409127_1714797_n.jpg
: D
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Oh yeah, a lot! This is more of a personal preference, but the light blue/white/cream colors are too close to each other and clash a bit. A white blouse would look a lot better.
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Oh yeah, a lot! This is more of a personal preference, but the light blue/white/cream colors are too close to each other and clash a bit. A white blouse would look a lot better.
ok! (i have PLENTY of white blouses)
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I disagree DD: All white rarely looks good unless the outfit is detailed, and that goes for most fashion.
I think the blue looks fine. The only thing clashy to me is the blue on the dress to the blue on the blouse, but it's hard to tell from just that picture... It could work. Try to balance out the blue in the lower part of the outfit, maybe by altering the skirt or adding a bow to it, or blue and white or lightblue socks or something. There's also that the white of the shoes and dress don't seem to match, but it wouldn't be as noticeable irl because your shoes are in the shadows anyway.
Also, that blouse... It's hard to tell from the pic xD try to get a rounded collar? (it isn't that hard to take apart and alter, actually)
Other than that, I think this would look adorable *3*
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Well it would be a cream dress with a white blouse and white shoes, but that would still look a bit strange, I think...
I'm not a big fan of whitexblue, but I agree that it would be better than whitexcream.
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I'm not a big fan of whitexblue,
pff and it's one of my favorite combos oUo //lame
yesIdon'tmeanbluexwhite
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It just reminds me too much of Mana, okay ;-; I don't like white with other colored accents too much, I've barely seen it done well. I think I saw a whitexpink coord once that was nice, though...
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blinks- umm....=.= I have and issue, I am making a dress and i dont know how to make the skirt part come out more, not like a cupcake dress just to give it more of a doll dress look. sadly the underskirt i made for it the fabric dosent want to do it for me, so please help if you can or any ideas, this dress is for a 6 year old. who birthday is comming up and she always wanted a dress like mine so i am working hard. please help if you can
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would you be able to post pics of what the one you are making, and what you want it to look like?
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http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/d/d/AAAAAhJBOd8AAAAAAA3UCQ.jpg
heres the link
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The underskirt (white) is gathered at the waist. You can make it with a long rectangle of fabric, measuring however short/long you want it, by the waist measurement times 3.
The overskirt (blue) is made with a specific pattern. Each panel of the dress should be sort of an hourglass shape; the top being the bust, then the waist, have it steadily flare out in a curve to however wide you want it. Look at your own dress to figure the best way to draft it (angles and slopes and lines and all that stuff)
And of course, to keep it all poofed out, you need a petticoat. Since that's sort of inconvenient for a child, and since it would probably be small enough for the ruffles of the underskirt to help keep it up, sew some gathered tulle into the lining of the skirt. c:
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Thank you hun the skirt was my only thing i had to finshes and the dress is green and white since that is her fav color hah my frist hand made lolita is looking pretty good. so far
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HEY LOOK I'M BUMPAN THIS THREAD.
So guess who ended up buying black RHS from Bodyline?
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lolol right before their September sale tho?
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I need them for kcon, so yes.
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Hurrah for RHS! They're surprisingly comfortable and easy to walk in provided what they look like.
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Yeah! Man they're SO easy to walk in. The only thing is that they rub against my ankles a little bit, but that's just because they're new :3
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I nearly snapped my ankle walking in mine the other day...I stepped weird on the threshold and ran into the wall to catch myself xD
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Oh geeze Haley D:
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I decided to not wear them till after the con because I don't need to practice in them, and I'd rather not break myself before the con xD
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Good plan. I wore mine around my room while I was cleaning it.
Also at the con I'm going to bring some plain black mary-janes to wear just in case they're too uncomfortable after a while.
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They'll prolly be fine once they're broken in. :)
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That's what I figure :3 I'll put bandaids on my feet during the con just in case.
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A friend and me are going to be wearing lolita for the first day of kumoricon (it's are first time wearing lolita) I guess i just want some advice on what to do and what not to do. I'm going to be wearing a light blue and white dress i bought off an online store called milanoo. Then i bought shoes and a head band at bodyline, but when i got the shoe's and head band they weren't the same color as the dress, there more of a light greenish blue and i was just wondering if they would still look ok together? If you would like pics of the dress and shoes i can put them up later. Thanks for any help you can give me.
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milanoo
Excuse me?
A Chinese site that sells a bunch of cheap clothing. They have thousands of different stuff. I have a friend that ordered from there and she got her costume it wasnt bad. O_O I mean It was really cheap and I was expecting something worse. The shipping took forever tho.
linkage: http://www.milanoo.com/
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milanoo
Excuse me?
A Chinese site that sells a bunch of cheap clothing. They have thousands of different stuff. I have a friend that ordered from there and she got her costume it wasnt bad. O_O I mean It was really cheap and I was expecting something worse. The shipping took forever tho.
linkage: http://www.milanoo.com/
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lol Yeah they are cheap, but i think it turned out quite well and i was shocked that it only took less then two weeks to make and two days to ship. Also at the time they were having free shipping I just couldn't refuse heh.
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Most Lolitas I know stay away from milanoo because they have made some really really bad items before. You can see some of the details here: http://community.livejournal.com/egl/14484905.html
I would be very wary of them because they are notorious for stealing brand/offbrand photos for their site, so what you see in the picture is NOT exactly what you're going to get.
@fuuwindgoddess: I would love to see pictures of what you're working with before I try to give any advice. Small things you can do to make it look Lolita better in general: PETTICOAT (the poofier the better, but not sticking out under the dress), NICE socks/otk socks, NICE lace (not raschel lace). Stay away from satin and scratchy lace, and make sure the dress isn't too long. Softer is always better <3
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Well here's a picture sorry if it's not all that good. I had to take if myself by sitting the camera on a timer and running for the door lol.
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That actually doesn't look that bad! The stretching around your bust is a little strange with the corset lacing though. I would also suggest more accessories (bracelets, etc) and possibly a long, wavy wig, but not neccessary. :D
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Thanks. I well look into some bracelets and some rings, but as for the wig hmmm not sure, i do have a long curly auburn wig that might go ok with it, but i don't have the money to buy a new wig. I'm pretty much broke, have to save what money i have for the hotel room lol.
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Thanks. I well look into some bracelets and some rings, but as for the wig hmmm not sure, i do have a long curly auburn wig that might go ok with it, but i don't have the money to buy a new wig. I'm pretty much broke, have to save what money i have for the hotel room lol.
Lol I just think that bangs look better with lolita (any kind of bangs) and same with longer hair. It just fits the aesthetic of Lolita. Also, makeup makes a big difference. With that dress I would suggest something like this (http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1tCoccuz96s/hqdefault.jpg) but with blue instead of pink. :3
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Wow that eye make looks really nice. I already have some blue eye shadow i just need to get some sliver. I have one more question is it ok to wear fingernail polish?
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Wow that eye make looks really nice. I already have some blue eye shadow i just need to get some sliver. I have one more question is it ok to wear fingernail polish?
Of course! A lot of deco loli's will do little decorations like this too: http://www.hellokittyjunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/425_japanese_decoden_inspiration_08.jpg
I would also invest in a white eyeliner pencil to do on the bottom lash line (it makes your eyes look bigger), and liquid liner for the top line (black or brown).
EDIT: Changed the link, accidentally didn't copy the URL I wanted. Lol
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hey holly I think you posted the wrong picture btw I know your name cause I'm katie's friend xD
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hey holly I think you posted the wrong picture btw I know your name cause I'm katie's friend xD
Thanks! Lol that you know my name. XD
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hey holly I think you posted the wrong picture btw I know your name cause I'm katie's friend xD
Thanks! Lol that you know my name. XD
Katie was at my house when she saw that you posted once and she was freaking out cause she didn't know you were on the forums xD
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hey holly I think you posted the wrong picture btw I know your name cause I'm katie's friend xD
Thanks! Lol that you know my name. XD
Katie was at my house when she saw that you posted once and she was freaking out cause she didn't know you were on the forums xD
XD Yeah, I just started. :)
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Thanks for all your great tips, you helped me out alot.
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No problem <3
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I like how this thread is going :3
And Holly, nyahaha/Haley is one of my friends who was searching for me at Sakuracon when my phone died lolol.
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I like how this thread is going :3
And Holly, nyahaha/Haley is one of my friends who was searching for me at Sakuracon when my phone died lolol.
lolol so I prolly saw her at one point and didn't even know. XD
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Yup, she was dressed as Miku.
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Yup, she was dressed as Miku.
Lolz
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Hey there. I was reading the first post, and I would like to point out that sometimes you can actually find cute stuff on Etsy. For instance:
http://www.etsy.com/shop/OphanimGothique
http://www.etsy.com/shop/BitSweet
http://www.etsy.com/shop/malicealice
http://www.etsy.com/shop/ittybittybirdy
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You and me and many in this thread know that, but go search "gothic lolita" on etsy and you'll understand why I put it in the first post.
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Good point >.>
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Hey man why is this thread dying.
SHAY POST HERE.
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:<
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-snc4%2Fhs930.snc4%2F74307_172665646081713_100000148363484_636227_6526679_n.jpg&hash=fb1491e9874595da3a3d9ec4655968479c33b29f)
MY FRIEND WONT TAKE ANY F ING ADVICE ABOUT FIXING THIS.
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>: Someday she'll look back on it...
You really can't force people to take advice, especially about lolita (trust me lol)
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Or when it ends up on an lj hate community.
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This thread can't die! I come here for advice and reference as to what is good lolita versus bad lolita, haha.
(I want to wear sweet Lolita, haha. And Katie, I am seriously wondering how we aren't twins seperated from birth with how much we have in common, haha.)
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OH GOD MERINA. We have got to live together in college, our apartment will be full of cosplay and lolita goodness *_*
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OH GOD MERINA. We have got to live together in college, our apartment will be full of cosplay and lolita goodness *_*
SERIOUSLY WE DO.
And oh my god, I thought my room was bad enough when I was preping for a con. We'd have wigs in the sinks and costumes all over the floor! Even when there was no con!
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I WANNA LIVE THERE
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MY FRIEND WONT TAKE ANY F ING ADVICE ABOUT FIXING THIS.
... tbh, I can see this looking really good without the sleeves... Maybe also without the lace-up in the front, the collar maaaayyybe could work.
And a nice headpiece that you'd find in a normal store (aka no lace, no bonnets, no mini-tophat, etc)
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MY FRIEND WONT TAKE ANY F ING ADVICE ABOUT FIXING THIS.
... tbh, I can see this looking really good without the sleeves... Maybe also without the lace-up in the front, the collar maaaayyybe could work.
And a nice headpiece that you'd find in a normal store (aka no lace, no bonnets, no mini-tophat, etc)
I concur.
Also we should all post pictures of our lolita outfits we wear~ I wore sailor lolita today but I was too lazy to take a pic.
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lol I dont wear lolita. Im always wearing hipster stuff... Ya gots ta get me into this... =3=
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I'm in the same boat as you.
KATIE MAKE US SUPER KAWAII DESU RIGHT NOW
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OKAY.
Actually I want to make some more super kawaii desu stuff for myself, but I need to pay Hazu, buy my Mugi wig, etc first.
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The last time I've been to a meetup/lolita event was like two or three months ago.
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Haaa speaking of which, when do you think you can do that? >u>
I wear it if I have enough time to prepare in the morning o3o; Like today although my outfit was really experimental and had too many different shades of brown in it Maybe I'll get a pic of myself tomorrow, if I can manage to take a good one of myself for once x-x
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I'm not sure, but the next time I have money it is going straight to you. Also, what do we do after we get the AA confirmation email? It gave me a link, but when I click it, it tells me I don't have access or something.
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You shouldn't have to do anything, I've already paid for both of them, and they sent me an email today confirming we'll be neighbors. c:
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Oh my gosh, so exciting! I will get you your money as fast as I can. I have a commission I was planning to do next weekend (5 day weekend AND I'm at my mom's), but I might see if I can do it this weekend instead so I can pay you sooner.
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so i'm doing a steampunk lolita version of aqua (from kh: bbs) for kcon '11 and i was wondering if this design would be something that represents that? i mean i'm not a genious obviously in lolita, but i do know a bit of victorian attire. what do you think of this?
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/271/2/8/steampunk_aqua_final_2011_by_luvan1me-d2zphiu.jpg
(the cane belongs to a different character design, terra's, so ignore that lol)
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Well I think you have the lolita thing down pretty well, but I don't really see the steampunk. The idea for steampunk is that the character is living in the past with technology like today (or something like that, I'm so bad at describing steampunk) and it looks like straight lolita.
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yes i do know that lol
and i do know what steampunk is, but i didn't want to dress my character too much into the technology >.< cuz the original design that i had for her was going to have her wearing steampunk goggles, but i didn't want to wear those on my face while i was dancing (this is for the dance) so that's why i had to dress her down a bit. the steampunk attire comes in with my purse XD which i haven't included in my pic :3
it has a more definite steampunk feel to it. i'm deciding between a clock, or time bomb or sticking with my original idea, a steampunk old fashion gun +w+ lol
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You might want to ask a different sort of community about steampunk... I know it's a bit more complex than some people make it out to be (they say sticking gears randomly to stuff is their version of Itas)
I think the shoes, tights, and accessories help add to the steampunk theme... Maybe brown or black suede/leather gloves too? Haha, I have no idea |: I really like the look of it though!
Also, remember, when you're picking out fabric, to stick to muted tones. What shows up on my screen looks good, but it's easy to mess up the colors when you get the actual fabric.
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Outfit post because we never upload any
Here's what I wore today~ As I was walking to the busstop, some guy driving by quickly shouted "YOULOOKLIKEAFREAK" at me xD I'd probably be slightly offended if he hadn't yelled in such an angry voice, and I wonder how fast he made the decision to say it since he was driving by at around 45mph, and I just turned onto that road *u*; It was just so weird, I just lol'd.
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg194.imageshack.us%2Fimg194%2F8906%2Fphoto293k.jpg&hash=1676fe8151a0380a0cb56f33f240857c524bf129) (https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg525.imageshack.us%2Fimg525%2F8599%2Fphoto287z.jpg&hash=80a3ee7774a4d3c6d2aec2c22957daed399a1b1f)
I also met a freshman at my school who knew about Lolita, but I was rushing somewhere at the time so we couldn't really talk. ;u; As soon as she saw me she asked "Angelic Pretty?" and I was pretty surprised. She even apparently had some BPN stuff.
Everything's from Bodyline, except the accessories (handmade, gifts, saturday market, etc) and the socks (goodwill 8D)
I wore this yesterday, but as I said it was really experimental and weird. I kind of looked like a teacher-slash-pirate with a deer obsession. Or something.
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4.imageshack.us%2Fimg4%2F4350%2Fphoto2822.jpg&hash=52729cefa66b28f2632191546a5ee85f0d779c36) (https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg17.imageshack.us%2Fimg17%2F2198%2Fphoto2762c.jpg&hash=a8c9020abd57fde61dc5b80605179b0cf825ca54)
Skirt/headband- handmade Blouse- Bodyline Vest- F21 Scarf/socks- Dollar store
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loll playin with filters on mah phoneeee.
I can't smile. ono Not well. for some reason. It took me so long to just do that in the mirror that my phone turned the camera off twice while trying to take that.
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HAZU UR SO KAWEE DESU.
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TOTAMOO KAWEE DESU.
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You might want to ask a different sort of community about steampunk... I know it's a bit more complex than some people make it out to be (they say sticking gears randomly to stuff is their version of Itas)
I think the shoes, tights, and accessories help add to the steampunk theme... Maybe brown or black suede/leather gloves too? Haha, I have no idea |: I really like the look of it though!
Also, remember, when you're picking out fabric, to stick to muted tones. What shows up on my screen looks good, but it's easy to mess up the colors when you get the actual fabric.
oh thanks! and trust me! i know stuff about colors and clothes! XD lol i hate not matching and not representing the very thing that i'm cosplaying or wearing! it's kinda the thing i try to avoid (unless something happens like i ran outta time or money lol or lost it ;~;)
yes this is the actual dress ~here~ (http://www.cosplay-costume.com/royal-blue-gothic-lolita-sissy-dress-008-two-piece-p-53.html?zenid=2umvmd43336fsnkresi6sfh403) for the drawing that i based it on :3 so everything that i got for my drawing is based on real clothing and i just sorta puzzle-pieced the thing together lol XD i changed my gloves to these (cuz i didn't like the ones i put on the original design)~these here~ (http://web.me.com/thegadgetbrand/GarageSaleImages/GarageSale_80722_1285157443.jpg) (which i already wore and i LOVEEE them! >w< )
and if i do love wearing this steampunk lolita (cuz i do love the lolita fashion, it reminds me of a much simpler time lol) i might make it a new fashion of mine 8D (most likely punk, sailor, ero, or aristocrat lolita) those styles are the ones i loooove the most <3~
ps i have bought stuff from cosplay-costume.com before and i love them! they make their things with QUALITY! and for just the right amount of money too!
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There's an LJ comm for anyone interested about steampunk lolita. :)
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That's pretty cool ^^ The dress looks nice, the only things I'd suggest are changing the lace to something not so saturated, or white (if that'd even be possible. It's not necessary, just something that looks like it'd clash with the rest) and wearing a less-poofy petticoat, like an a-line one. On the mannequin it's just too... cupcake-y for the classic look you're going for.
Good luck figuring out your steampunk aspect *3*
Editkinda: after looking up other steampunk coords, the big thing I noticed is most of the dresses are under the bust, or there's a corset. I'm not sure how one would work with that dress you picked out though... Or maybe a double-breasted vest or jacket... bah, I have no idea about this stuff. ono
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i do know about the corset thing lol but it's not necessary to have. i've looked at TONS of steampunk things but the thing is the style derived from the 1800's and victorian era so there were some dresses that had corsets and others didn't. so it's kinda hard to do a style of what i want. it was originally just a mix between steampunk and lolita lol XD so i mean it was just an idea i wanted to do for the dance, but at the same time try to captivate the beauty of the 2 different styles.
and this kind of outfit should fit more into cosplay lolita XD cuz of the fact that i'm cosplaying aqua but in this style >.<
and it doesn't have a petticoat lol so either way i'm not gonna be that poofy (cuz it doesn't go with the victorian style of the era i'm looking at) i'm gonna probably be wearing bloomers underneath just so i'm not cold lol
and i am not changing the lace, i'm just changing the white strings on the arms to black so it matches with the rest of my black attire. so it's not all WHITE! lol XD i know my fashion matching +w+ too much one is quite not fun (lawl 8D)
p.s. under the bust not necessarily, cuz there are some that wear vests (which is part of the steampunk look) so what i'm probably gonna end up doing (like how i wanted the design to end up) is get a black corset to go under my boobs lol (the pushup corset) which will probably end up looking better. i'll probably end up changing the dress once i get it :3 which is what i end up doing most of the time lol
this whole drawing is just a base, so that i can get some ideas to finally end the whole thing >.<
edit: http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?p=3348389
apparently it's just a combination like i said of the 2 styles XD and ppl just sorta added to the new fashion lol so i mean it's not an official style persay
OH! and i think i found my purse XD http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220689659027&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_3261wt_905 (and yes! it's ebay! lol it's the only place that ppl sell their works of art without the hassle of forums lol and i know this guy's work so it's okay :3)
oh! and my gun lol if i decide to go with my gun idea cuz aqua is a fighter http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390238267206&var=660007981510&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_2068wt_1139
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I really don't know much about steampunk, but to revive this thread, here's a gothic outfit of mine I wore a while ago to promote my school's anime club:
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash2%2Fhs056.ash2%2F36165_1594221462787_1453449591_1502091_5814725_n.jpg&hash=fbf6fc002e3a2d0d5e52859ef203cda836f1d75a)
I'm wearing two clip-on pigtails, my skirt is handmade, my RHS are from Bodyline, and everything else is off brand.
I think I'll dress up today for fun <3
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You are so pretty! *o*
(And oh my, those shoes are cool!)
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Thank you! And man I love wearing these shoes, they freak people out.
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Thank you! And man I love wearing these shoes, they freak people out.
But why would those shoes freak people out? They look really nice, and... oh. :o
That isn't a step stool you're standing on, huh? ;)
As Fachion-parl said, very cool.
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Hahahaha I wore this outfit to school, as I said, and it's mostly men who freak out.
"Wha- how do you- what ARE those??"
They also freak out over my clip-on too lolololol.
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I really don't know much about steampunk, but to revive this thread, here's a gothic outfit of mine I wore a while ago to promote my school's anime club:
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash2%2Fhs056.ash2%2F36165_1594221462787_1453449591_1502091_5814725_n.jpg&hash=fbf6fc002e3a2d0d5e52859ef203cda836f1d75a)
I'm wearing two clip-on pigtails, my skirt is handmade, my RHS are from Bodyline, and everything else is off brand.
I think I'll dress up today for fun <3
I would die ! in your room its so pink lol >< well it loosk pink
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Yeah, I got to pick out my room color when we moved in about three years ago, and darnit I wanted cotton candy pink walls.
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anythign abotu boy lolita look .. like my friend he loves lolita but he dosent want to be in a dress and we are trying to figure out a male lolita kinda look for him
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anythign abotu boy lolita look .. like my friend he loves lolita but he dosent want to be in a dress and we are trying to figure out a male lolita kinda look for him
http://community.livejournal.com/egl/2300955.html (http://community.livejournal.com/egl/2300955.html)
There's some stuff about it here. I don't know much about it other than it can be hard to pull off.
I want my rori stuff Hazu orz
And yes, I already paid you.
I want mine too
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thankies
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Me three~
Also next time we meet up I'll give you at least some of the money I owe you, with any luck I can give you all of it.
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Yeah, yeah. You can pick it up whenever, or plan a meetup or something. I'm getting my camera this week, so we could even have a photoshoot this weekend or someth, since I know Katie wants some pictures and Dana wants a night shoot o3o
@Titus- I swear to god I made a huge post about boystyle somewhere in this thread... I'd advise you to do your own research first, and we can give critiques after you've made a base outfit or something. But yeah, boystyle is very hard to pull off, in my opinion, probably because it isn't done so often, so the guidelines are skewed and there aren't many good examples.
If he wants to go for a little boy look, try looking for boystyle or kodona. (my little piece of input, if he's hairy at all, he better be willing to shave. I don't feel a "little boy" looks good with stubble or hairy legs x-x) For an older look, try Aristocrat or ouji.
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well he done male lolita before but its hard for him to do sweet lolita like him and his wife did a cute lolita look togeather to do a romeo juliet thingy but he has get to do anything els so we are on the hunt to find soemthing
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Oh Hazu we were planning some sort of photoshoot and then hangout sometime. I really want more Roxy shots hahaha. But I need to get a new hoodie first.
IN LOLITA NEWS there's a lolita meetup planned for Thanksgiving weekend on lj, anyone here thinking of going?
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I AM !!! :D if i can find my shoes o.o
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IN LOLITA NEWS there's a lolita meetup planned for Thanksgiving weekend on lj, anyone here thinking of going?
If you go, I might go. wait...I don't have anything lolita except shoes...
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IN LOLITA NEWS there's a lolita meetup planned for Thanksgiving weekend on lj, anyone here thinking of going?
I would love to go--ohwait I dont have anything to wear......
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We can be the creepers that follow them around.
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I only have one petticoat though. fffu
Surprisingly I have petticoats. But other than that no lolita stuff lololol.
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Me and my bud kyo put togeather and outfit thats o.o he says is lolita but i dont think it is anyways if you want to borrow it i ca take a pic and show you o.O
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^sorry, I didn't understand that
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Me and my bud kyo put togeather and outfit thats o.o he says is lolita but i dont think it is anyways if you want to borrow it i ca take a pic and show you o.O
Could you possibly re write this in a proper sentence.
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Yeah I also had trouble understanding haha.
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WHAT DATE IS THIS MEETUP? I don't have any lolita but I'm game for stalking some little girls.
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Me and my bud kyo put togeather and outfit thats o.o he says is lolita but i dont think it is anyways if you want to borrow it i ca take a pic and show you o.O
Could you possibly re write this in a proper sentence.
haha sorry I have bad spelling and grammar ... I ment was me and My buddy kyo have a little outfit we threw togeather when i didn't own anything lolita, hes into it alot and what not so he i trusted him its cute o.O and lolitaish If anyone wants to wear that to the meet if i go. sorry bad grammar and spelling . and stuff
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I have 3 or 4 nice tops (3 blouses), 3 JSKs and 4 skirts I think. And my coat, but I don't want anyone else wearing it :x
soyesthere'sthis. Dunno if I'll go though.
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I have a couple blouses and skirts and cardigans and all that, but I'm a fatty so idk if it'd fit any of you guys >:
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I have a couple blouses and skirts and cardigans and all that, but I'm a fatty so idk if it'd fit any of you guys >:
yeah but you are cute :3 fat or not ^^
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Dawww thank you.
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so guys. i changed my dress lol for the steampunk outfit :) and i think this out fits a bit more
wat you think? should i wear it w/o the straps? or should i put them on a certain way.
here's the top: http://www.fanplusfriend.com/servlet/the-1384/Sweet-Lolita-Hood-Princess/Detail (black one) i got the hooded one cuz i don't want to be cold lol
here's the dress: http://www.fanplusfriend.com/servlet/the-1048/Scholastic-Lolita-High-Waist/Detail (the navy blue one and i'm wearing it w/o the )
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In my experience, black is a bit hard to coordinate with navy, so you might need to work with your accessories to make it work.
Also, as we said before, you might want to go to a steampunk forum since our steampunk knowledge is extremely limited. This is a lolita thread, after all.
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i was saying if you liked the dress and if it looks good with or w/o the straps on lol :P
nothing about steampunk cuz i'm actually thinking of wearing this around the streets :) i'm really starting to want to add the lolita style to my wardrobe.. it's just so elegant, and so gorgeous! reminds me of the good ole victorian days (lol) i guess i love the victorian style a lot ._. and the old 30's-40's style <.< >.>
and i've worn black with navy blue, and it's not hard :) especially since my favorite color for clothing IS blue and black, i'm quite good with the matching XD but i was originally gonna make it white, but of course i changed it cuz i wear darker colors than i do lighter. :)
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I like the skirt. The sleeves on the blouse look funny to me, probably because of how far the cuffs go out xD
The suspenders are detachable, to you can always decide if they look better with or without after buying it. Right now I think it'd look better with the blouse over the skirt, and a navy bow on the collar or one side of your chest, but I can't coordinate well in my mind *-*
And yeah, black and navy go really well together. They're both colors that can look good with anything, after all.
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yay >w< yea the shirt sleeves are "awkward" lol but i like the style. and i love things that cover my hands ish lol so it's kinda weird XD
okay well i need the shirt to be tucked into the skirt XD but i'll see how it looks, and the navy bow idea sounds very cute :) i did have a navy bow on my original outfit lol so ima have to make that :3
yes. those 2 colors go so well together :3 thanks so much for the tips <3~
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I do Lolita fashion only at cons cuz I dont have the money to get outfits to wear on weekends. I barely have money to buy work clothes lol But, I do have to comment and say that not all cosplay Lolita is bad. Im doing Minnie Mouse Lolita as a cosplay, also I plan on doing Wa Lolita with Choji as a cosplay. Some cosplay Lolita is really bad, but some are really really good. I just hate how a lot of Lolitas say anyone who does cosplay Lolita isnt a real Lolita, or theyre an Ita Lolita.
Anywhoosle. Id like to try out Hime Lolita and Sweet Lolita. Ive done gothic Lolita, Wa Lolita, and a really ****ty Aristocrat Lolita when I was first starting out. Though, I have a question about Bunny Lolita. I heard that it was a style of Lolita, but Ive never really seen any. I mean, Ive seen winter Lolita coats with bunny hoods and bunny designs on them, but I never thought that itself was Bunny Lolita. If it is, I really want so do some Bunny Lolita lol
(Removed inappropriate content per forum code of conduct (http://www.kumoricon.org/forums/index.php?topic=11025.0). ~randompvg)
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I don't quite understand how you "cosplay lolita" considering lolita is just everyday clothing. Generally when people try to "cosplay lolita" they use cheap materials and generally give good lolitas a bad image, if you know what I mean.
There's a weird relationship between some lolitas and anime fans, I think it's kind of dumb but I do like having my lolita and cosplay kept separate rather than being the exact same thing.
Also "bunny lolita" isn't a style. Coats and sweaters with bunny ears are fairly popular, but they aren't an entire substyle.
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...SO YOU GUYS.
Who's going to wear lolita at Sakuracon? One of my friends is running a lolita meet during the con, I'll probably wear lolita for part of the time. Last year I spent almost the entire con in lolita, it was so fun! When I start college I'm going to be shifting my focus more to lolita so I'll probably wear it more to cons.
And soon I'll be buying this dress from one of my friends, I really can't wait!
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-8N0gb-F4nyI%2FTR8fmDlOe5I%2FAAAAAAAAABQ%2FurIlwni5iXo%2Fs320%2FkXdRXQ1278389077.jpg&hash=9a16cb7feb703a99c9b167a9b069b480117bc975)
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OOH OOH OOH ME
lol hi thread. Don't expect me to stick around, i-it's not like I... like, like you or anything :I
I'll probably wear the one coord I'm putting together right now at some point during Sakuracon. Maybe to the meet-up, depending on when it is? I don't do that crazy neon frilly OTT Sweet stuff, I really like Classic though. Still have to get a blouse, but other than that I'm pretty much set.
I just hope I don't get narked at because I'm tall and these skirts are all supposed to be knee-length D:
PS: These boots (http://www.shefinds.com/files/tory-burch-melrose-booties1.jpg), good idea with this skirt in black (http://innocent-w.jp/shopping/094212/index_e.html), Y/N?
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The meet is going to be on Friday night, probably in an Asian restaurant not far from the convention center. Afterwards we're going to go do purikura, last year we found a machine in a building literally across the street from the con.
Also Caitlin, you are an amazing seamstress, couldn't you make your own replicas that are the right length on you?
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I love lolita, and I have for years. Mostly gothic and classic, though.
You can also get lolita clothing from Taobao.
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I was going to do that, but I'm a fatty so I'd have to get the overcharge fee on custom sizing.
But next time I have money (so likely during the summer haha) I want to get some shoes and dresses. I'm tempted to get one of the Angelic Pretty replicas, especially the Fantasical Dolly one.
Also it's so sad, I love AP but super sweet decololi looks so awful on me >: I just look like a giant baby.
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I probably could, yeah, but I don't really know the first thing about proper tailoring and I'm afraid of it looking bad D:
I think, if I have the time, I'll make myself an underskirt to both give myself more poof and more length. With lace and ruffles and fun :D
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I was going to do that, but I'm a fatty so I'd have to get the overcharge fee on custom sizing.
I'll have to do that, too, because I have boobs and hips. ._. If the Qutieland prices are anything to go off of, though, the overcharge fee isn't too bad.
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Oh don't buy from Qutieland! They mark things up so much. It's better to just buy stuff with another shopping service, although shipping gets expensive so group orders are useful.
...Actually if you want to just get stuff by yourself maybe Qutieland would be better? I just know they mark things way up.
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Qutieland's shipping charges are ENORMOUS. Price for the items is pretty good imo, but their shipping can be more than the item sometimes! Especially shoes. I've found a shop on ebay that has the same shoes for quite a bit less. http://clothing.shop.ebay.com/Womens-Shoes-/63889/i.html?_catref=1&_fln=1&_ipg=&_ssn=jcpunk&_trksid=p3911.c0.m282
Sometimes they go off the radar though, like delete all of their items, but then they put them back. So I dunno.
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Thanks for the tips. I'm really bad at navigating Taobao, but if they mark things up a lot, then I might as well learn how to navigate it.
Qutieland has horrid shipping prices, I know. ._. I looked to see how much one order would cost altogether. Eep!
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Hey Holly, is that shop legit? It looks a bit sketchy. But hnnng those shoes.
Also you guys what's your favorite lolita find you've found? Today I bought a black cardigan with fur trim around the collar, it was on sale for $7 and is going to be PERFECT with gothic lolita. I love love love fur and other interesting textures with gothic.
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I have a grey faux fur collar. It looks like this, but grey, and with no leopard print lining:
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdyn-images.hsni.com%2Fis%2Fimage%2FHomeShoppingNetwork%2F531363_001%3F%24pd300%24&hash=13339aa9e285708d2d59f7829684505da2a34fae)
I don't really have much lolita stuff, although I'd like to. ._.;; I'm currently waiting on some grade money right now, then I can go on a shopping binge.
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I've been looking for one of those, the cardigan kind of has that but the collar goes lower down on the chest, almost in a curved V. I'll post a pic soon.
Btw where did you buy it?
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Hot Topic. IT'S ACTUALLY DECENT QUALITY AND LOOKS NICE, I SWEAR.
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I dunno, but all of their reviews are positive. *shrug* The next time I can justify spending money I want to buy some. So I dunno. Could post on egl asking if anyone's bought from them.
My favorite lolita find: Bow barettes at the dollar store. They're really cheap and like to slide, but you get a TON of them for $1 and they come in basically every color.
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Oh I have a ton of those too!
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I do Lolita fashion only at cons cuz I dont have the money to get outfits to wear on weekends. I barely have money to buy work clothes lol But, I do have to comment and say that not all cosplay Lolita is bad. Im doing Minnie Mouse Lolita as a cosplay, also I plan on doing Wa Lolita with Choji as a cosplay. Some cosplay Lolita is really bad, but some are really really good. I just hate how a lot of Lolitas say anyone who does cosplay Lolita isnt a real Lolita, or theyre an Ita Lolita.
Anywhoosle. Id like to try out Hime Lolita and Sweet Lolita. Ive done gothic Lolita, Wa Lolita, and a really ****ty Aristocrat Lolita when I was first starting out. Though, I have a question about Bunny Lolita. I heard that it was a style of Lolita, but Ive never really seen any. I mean, Ive seen winter Lolita coats with bunny hoods and bunny designs on them, but I never thought that itself was Bunny Lolita. If it is, I really want so do some Bunny Lolita lol
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Mate, cosplay + lolita = cosplay lolita = not lolita.
herp
Actually, it is lolita to some who cant afford to do it all the time. Like me. I cant dress it every single day, meaning it is not a style to me, making it a cosplay for me. Cosplay lolita should be considered lolita, and I do consider it to be, because of the fact that if it still looks like lolita, is made with the right materials, is elegant and beautiful, like all other lolita outfits, then why should it not be considered lolita? If I want to make a lolita dress out of Minnie Mouse's dress and it goes by all the lolita rules, then it is therefore lolita reguardless if Im wearing mouse ears or not. Saying that cosplay lolita is not lolita because of the "cheap materials" is just stupid. I pay top dollar for my fabric and lace, I do not buy any materials for the dress itself at walmart or kmart, and I wear tights and bloomers and a correct petticoat. By all of those accounts, when I cosplay as lolita, I am indeed a lolita. My cosplay lolita dresses are never cheap or trashy looking. Saying that its not lolita just because of a huge sterotype of cosplay lolita being crappy and cheap isnt right. Its the same as calling someone emo or scene because they dress a certain way.
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I do Lolita fashion only at cons cuz I dont have the money to get outfits to wear on weekends. I barely have money to buy work clothes lol But, I do have to comment and say that not all cosplay Lolita is bad. Im doing Minnie Mouse Lolita as a cosplay, also I plan on doing Wa Lolita with Choji as a cosplay. Some cosplay Lolita is really bad, but some are really really good. I just hate how a lot of Lolitas say anyone who does cosplay Lolita isnt a real Lolita, or theyre an Ita Lolita.
Anywhoosle. Id like to try out Hime Lolita and Sweet Lolita. Ive done gothic Lolita, Wa Lolita, and a really ****ty Aristocrat Lolita when I was first starting out. Though, I have a question about Bunny Lolita. I heard that it was a style of Lolita, but Ive never really seen any. I mean, Ive seen winter Lolita coats with bunny hoods and bunny designs on them, but I never thought that itself was Bunny Lolita. If it is, I really want so do some Bunny Lolita lol
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Mate, cosplay + lolita = cosplay lolita = not lolita.
herp
Actually, it is lolita to some who cant afford to do it all the time. Like me. I cant dress it every single day, meaning it is not a style to me, making it a cosplay for me. Cosplay lolita should be considered lolita, and I do consider it to be, because of the fact that if it still looks like lolita, is made with the right materials, is elegant and beautiful, like all other lolita outfits, then why should it not be considered lolita? If I want to make a lolita dress out of Minnie Mouse's dress and it goes by all the lolita rules, then it is therefore lolita reguardless if Im wearing mouse ears or not. Saying that cosplay lolita is not lolita because of the "cheap materials" is just stupid. I pay top dollar for my fabric and lace, I do not buy any materials for the dress itself at walmart or kmart, and I wear tights and bloomers and a correct petticoat. By all of those accounts, when I cosplay as lolita, I am indeed a lolita. My cosplay lolita dresses are never cheap or trashy looking. Saying that its not lolita just because of a huge sterotype of cosplay lolita being crappy and cheap isnt right. Its the same as calling someone emo or scene because they dress a certain way.
I think the point she was making was that Lolita is not a costume/cosplay, it is just a fashion style. You wouldn't say "I'm cosplaying Punk" or "I'm cosplaying Goth," because they're fashion trends. There is "themed" Lolita, such as your Minnie Mouse Lolita, which is kind of mixing cosplay and Lolita, that doesn't make it not Lolita, but it makes it more of a costume, which a lot of Lolitas are really hesitant to do because it makes people who don't know that Lolita is a fashion style think that it is just a costume, which it is not to a lot of Lolitas. In general if a dress is not of quality (lace, fabric, etc. regardless of cost), it is considered "Ita" which is not Lolita, and most "cosplay Lolita" is of this type, thus the stereotype because people that "cosplay Lolita" generally do not know "the rules" or what makes good and bad Lolita.
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A few things:
1. Why would you say you're cosplaying lolita? Wouldn't you just say you're wearing lolita? If I went outside in a formal dress and said "I'M COSPLAYING FORMAL WEAR" people would think I'm an idiot.
2. Cheap doesn't necessarily mean inexpensive. I could go out and spend $500 on a crappy replica with bad fabric and construction and it would still be considered cheap. At the same time, I buy all of my stuff or make it, and I haven't paid more than $50 on anything I wear. I'm only buying my first "real" lolita item this month, and by real I mean it's a Japanese lolita brand piece.
3. I don't wear lolita every single day and it's still a fashion. The fact that I don't wear it all the time doesn't make an entire fashion a cosplay. That's like saying "I don't wear scene clothing every so therefore scene is a costume." It's dumb and a great way to upset people.
Also why don't you go ahead and post pictures of your Minnie Mouse lolita? I'm not meaning to sound rude, I genuinely like Disney-inspired lolita outfits. Some of my favorite outfits pull inspiration from fictional characters.
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As for lolita clothes being expensive, Bodyline, Taobao, and Anna House all have relatively inexpensive clothing, or you could just make it yourself as fleur mentioned. You don't need brand to be a lolita.
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A few things:
1. Why would you say you're cosplaying lolita? Wouldn't you just say you're wearing lolita? If I went outside in a formal dress and said "I'M COSPLAYING FORMAL WEAR" people would think I'm an idiot.
2. Cheap doesn't necessarily mean inexpensive. I could go out and spend $500 on a crappy replica with bad fabric and construction and it would still be considered cheap. At the same time, I buy all of my stuff or make it, and I haven't paid more than $50 on anything I wear. I'm only buying my first "real" lolita item this month, and by real I mean it's a Japanese lolita brand piece.
3. I don't wear lolita every single day and it's still a fashion. The fact that I don't wear it all the time doesn't make an entire fashion a cosplay. That's like saying "I don't wear scene clothing every so therefore scene is a costume." It's dumb and a great way to upset people.
Also why don't you go ahead and post pictures of your Minnie Mouse lolita? I'm not meaning to sound rude, I genuinely like Disney-inspired lolita outfits. Some of my favorite outfits pull inspiration from fictional characters.
As soon as its finished, I would be gald to. And you can look for it at kumoricon.
As to asnwer these, I'll do them one by one. And, Id like you too look at this picture before reading on.
http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&global=1&q=lolita+styles#/d39x79y
1.I understand that it is a fashion and not a costume. But when people dress up for an 80's dance, are they not, in all honesty, wearing a costume? When people go as goths, punks, and emo kids for halloween, they are dressing up. All of those are fashion styles, and they wear them as costumes. I do not consider myself a lolita girl. I do not read the "lolita bible", I am not an elegant woman, and I am not at all modest. But when I wear a lolita dress, I consider it to be dressing up, which is why I called it cosplaying lolita. If I were to dress up in a formal dress, I wouldnt call it cosplay, but a game of dress up. Which is exactly what it is to me.
2. Yes you are right. I could pay a lot for a poorly constructed dress, and it would be considered cheap. But I make my dresses myself, with good quality fabric; meaning it isnt frayed, is soft, isnt shiny in places, has no holes, ect. I pay good money for good qaulity. I could pay for bad quality, if I bought lolita things. But I dont. I work hard on my dresses to make sure that they are not cheap looking, are not trashy, and have lolita quality in look.
3. As i said above, the example of an 80's dance comes into play here too. 80's fashion is still a fashion to many, as are scene, emo, punk, goth, and cybergoth. But people use those as cosplays too. Ive seen lots of cybergoth cosplays only at conventions, and they are just that. Cosplays. You can turn a whole fashion era into a cosplay if you try. Im not saying that lolita isnt a fashion, but as ive said, fashions can be cosplays too. And to some people who do actually do that; wear scene clothes only every couple of days a week or a month, they do not say they are scene kids. They say they're dressing up in their scene clothes for the fun of it; which is all cosplay really is. Fun.
And Id like to point out that lolita fashion is growing and evolving. Everyday its getting new ideas put in and becoming a genre of lolita fashion. The fact that cosplay lolita has always been seen as a joke is changing, and lolitas should learn to grow with it and accept it. Many new genres of lolita are here now, and people accept them. Saying that cosplay lolita is not lolita because its sometimes done badly, or is too costumey, it wrong. Perfect examples are guro and steampunk and pirate lolita. Theyre costumey, but reguarded as lolita fashions. Same with ero lolita. Theyre costumey, in your face, half the time theyre not modest at all, and they all are still considered lolita fashion.
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So you linked me to a random person on dA. That doesn't mean they know anything about lolita, they're a random person. "Pinku" and "Mizuiro" aren't lolita styles, and the "Casual" Lolita is a great example of sweeter classic lolita, not actual casual lolita. And there is no such thing as "Cosplay Lolita," that's a classification for someone doing lolita wrong.
As I said in the first post of this thread, this thread is here to help you improve outfits and keep from being mocked by online lolita communities. If you go around saying "I'M COSPLAYING LOLITA" you are going to be looked down on and not taken seriously.
Also, how on earth does a fashion dictate how you act? I'm not elegant, falling down all over and tripping on things constantly, and I'm not modest either. In fact, today I wore a skirt that hit above my knees! Good heavens! Not to mention I swear a lot. When I wear lolita I consider it dressing up too, but it's not a cosplay or a costume. It's just nice clothes.
The main different between "cosplaying" the 80's vs lolita is that no one actually wears 80's clothing anymore. People frequently wear lolita clothing out as normal clothes. If in like 20 years lolita fashion is completely different, then I could possibly understand "cosplaying lolita."
Also I'm not quite sure you understand how the fashion has changed and grown. In the late 90's and early 2000's, rectangle headdresses were common along with huge chunky mary janes. Nowadays you see split wigs and tea party shoes. I've been following lolita fashion since I was in about 8th grade and I'm about to graduate high school, so trust me, I know my stuff.
Also erololita is considered more of a costume-y lolita for things like photoshoots, like guro or pirate lolita. No one would go out on a normal day in erololita, that's saved for photoshoots or parties or whatever. Actually same with decololita, with crazy huge wigs and accessories everywhere. I'd never wear that out, but I'd wear it to a con or photoshoot or party.
Also you seem to understand the actual fashion but not the culture around it at all. I'd suggest checking out the egl (http://community.livejournal.com/egl/) community on livejournal and possibly even getoffegl (http://community.livejournal.com/getoffegl/). I was the lone mod of getoffegl a few years ago, so trust me, I know exactly what not to do.
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When people go as goths, punks, and emo kids for halloween, they are dressing up. All of those are fashion styles, and they wear them as costumes.
Yes, a costume. That doesn't make them a goth or a punk or an emo kid, and it doesn't make those subcultures respect them at all.
I do not consider myself a lolita girl.
Then why are you asking to get the respect of the lolita community and asking to be called a real lolita? I don't get it.
I do not read the "lolita bible", I am not an elegant woman, and I am not at all modest.
Most lolita don't/aren't, although they're modest while wearing lolita.
But when I wear a lolita dress, I consider it to be dressing up, which is why I called it cosplaying lolita. If I were to dress up in a formal dress, I wouldnt call it cosplay, but a game of dress up. Which is exactly what it is to me.
Except if you're cosplaying lolita, that doesn't make you a lolita. I always found dressing up as a goth/punk/emo kid disrespectful to those subcultures, and cosplaying lolita comes off as the same to me.
You say that you're a lolita when you're cosplaying lolita, but that's like saying you ARE Tifa when you're cosplaying Tifa. You're not Tifa, you're a person cosplaying Tifa, and there's a difference.
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But when I wear a lolita dress, I consider it to be dressing up, which is why I called it cosplaying lolita. If I were to dress up in a formal dress, I wouldnt call it cosplay, but a game of dress up.
Im sorry but this makes no sense ._. And your second statement contradicts the first.
lolita is a fashion
In its most common usage, "fashion" describes a popular clothing style....so how is it cosplay.....................
I don't even wear lolita and I know this..@A@
Also Katie I wanna get something from bodyline after Sakura con... any suggestions?
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Also Katie I wanna get something from bodyline after Sakura con... any suggestions?
What are you looking for? Like some dresses?
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Also Katie I wanna get something from bodyline after Sakura con... any suggestions?
What are you looking for? Like some dresses?
yeah some sort of nice cord I can wear sometimes :>
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Okay, just go ahead and find stuff that immediately jumps out at you and we can work together to coordinate it.
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Man I am so pumped for Sakuracon, I'm putting together a full coord for Milky Berry to wear to the meetup there :3 I'm paying for the dress once I get my Paypal all situated, and then at the end of the month I'm getting a pair of shoes and a cardigan from Bodyline~
Plus I get to see some lolita friends that I haven't seen since last Sakuracon! And the last day is the lolita fashion show! :DDDD And I'm going to do purikura with my lolita friends again too!
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I love the Lolita fashion, but I'm not really into dresses and such. I like and wear more male clothing and wondering what is considered a male lolita?
I've seen some, but most of them at more towards a punk/j-rock look.
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@nekovamp
Look up Kondona/Oji/Boystyle. It's basically what boys wore in Victorian times.
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnice-lolita-dresses.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F05%2Fg086-2.jpg&hash=6bb77bdadcc389f472bb45d07440815a5b6e5464)
An outfit I found on a google search.
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Thanks so much!
I love this style ^^
And I'm working on getting enough clothing to wear it everyday~
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Ahahaha Jameson <3
There's also aristocratic style which is more elegant gothic than lolita, but it's GORGEOUS when done right. It has both feminine and masculine styles.
Dressing up every day is so fun. I haven't done it lately, but in the past I've had weeks where I say "okay, I'm wearing lolita every day this week, GO" and it's really fun. It's not very practical though, I have trouble moving in classrooms because my skirt knocks things off of desks, and also the weather is either way too cold or way too hot for lolita.
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Ah, yeah I've seen those ^^
I found a site that has a lot of that style, and it's probably my favorite b/c it can double as Steampunk, another fashion I love <3
Yeah, I can see where that would be hard. That's funny though.
Yeah, fall is probably the best time for Lolita.
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Fall and spring are the best! Plus the colors for fall and spring work really well with lolita. And yeah last time I wore lolita to school I knocked over a glass of hot chocolate on a table -_- Plus I just got another petticoat to layer under my current one so I'm expecting to do a lot more knocking things over if I dress up for school.
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lol
Yeah, Lolita not the best in small places...
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I look horrid in fall and spring colours. Maybe that's one of the reasons I love Gothic so much. . xD
If I get a job over the summer I'll probably end up buying a ton of coords. I made one a few weeks ago with an Alice and the Pirates JSK, but then I was immensely saddened to find out that the dress is $306 w/o shipping. ):
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I look horrid in fall and spring colours. Maybe that's one of the reasons I love Gothic so much. . xD
If I get a job over the summer I'll probably end up buying a ton of coords. I made one a few weeks ago with an Alice and the Pirates JSK, but then I was immensely saddened to find out that the dress is $306 w/o shipping. ):
Yup. Brand is SPENDY. That's why I look at Closet Child and Fairy Angel a lot. You can get some prints that are usually marked up a lot in sales communities for cheaper, but others are more expensive... but it's second hand so most things are less than retail. I've only bought one dress for full price from AATP, and that's because I was literally obsessed with the print for weeeeeeks after I missed the reservation. I was checking the website like, 2-3 times a day to see the announcement for when they'd have it on the online store. XP I got the dress but the headbow and socks were already sold, so I had to find them elsewhere. That's really my only splurge splurge.
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I look horrid in fall and spring colours. Maybe that's one of the reasons I love Gothic so much. . xD
If I get a job over the summer I'll probably end up buying a ton of coords. I made one a few weeks ago with an Alice and the Pirates JSK, but then I was immensely saddened to find out that the dress is $306 w/o shipping. ):
Yup. Brand is SPENDY. That's why I look at Closet Child and Fairy Angel a lot. You can get some prints that are usually marked up a lot in sales communities for cheaper, but others are more expensive... but it's second hand so most things are less than retail. I've only bought one dress for full price from AATP, and that's because I was literally obsessed with the print for weeeeeeks after I missed the reservation. I was checking the website like, 2-3 times a day to see the announcement for when they'd have it on the online store. XP I got the dress but the headbow and socks were already sold, so I had to find them elsewhere. That's really my only splurge splurge.
I check Closet Child a lot, too, and other secondhand sites. As for brand being spendy. . It doesn't help that my favourite prints are old Moitie. ): SO EXPENSIVE. Thank god Motie OPs tend to be unflattering on me, though, otherwise I'd be afraid of shelling out $1.2k+ on the Iron Gate OP. (I know, Iron Gate. But it's so pretty~)
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I look horrid in fall and spring colours. Maybe that's one of the reasons I love Gothic so much. . xD
If I get a job over the summer I'll probably end up buying a ton of coords. I made one a few weeks ago with an Alice and the Pirates JSK, but then I was immensely saddened to find out that the dress is $306 w/o shipping. ):
Yup. Brand is SPENDY. That's why I look at Closet Child and Fairy Angel a lot. You can get some prints that are usually marked up a lot in sales communities for cheaper, but others are more expensive... but it's second hand so most things are less than retail. I've only bought one dress for full price from AATP, and that's because I was literally obsessed with the print for weeeeeeks after I missed the reservation. I was checking the website like, 2-3 times a day to see the announcement for when they'd have it on the online store. XP I got the dress but the headbow and socks were already sold, so I had to find them elsewhere. That's really my only splurge splurge.
I check Closet Child a lot, too, and other secondhand sites. As for brand being spendy. . It doesn't help that my favourite prints are old Moitie. ): SO EXPENSIVE. Thank god Motie OPs tend to be unflattering on me, though, otherwise I'd be afraid of shelling out $1.2k+ on the Iron Gate OP. (I know, Iron Gate. But it's so pretty~)
XDDD I'm glad I'm not that big of a fan of gothic. hahahah. I love AATP most I think. And most of their prints (besides the obvious Vampire Requiem), don't inflate too much. But they're really hard to find second hand, even on the LiveJournal sales community.
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I love super OTT AP stuff but I tend to look like an adult baby when I wear sweet lolita >:
And now because the dollar to yen ratio is ridiculous buying brand straight from the source is hard too, isn't it?
So glad I'm buying Milky Berry second (or third lol) hand. But AP is going to be releasing a print with sheep on it hnnnnnnnng. And sheep are my favorite animal ;~;
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FOR REALS KATIE????? DDDD:> I DIDN'T KNOW THAAAAAT!!! *goes to look*
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It's true!
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so freaking cute!! lambies!
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Dat bag :B
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It reminds me of Lamb Chop. <3
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I love super OTT AP stuff but I tend to look like an adult baby when I wear sweet lolita >:
And now because the dollar to yen ratio is ridiculous buying brand straight from the source is hard too, isn't it?
So glad I'm buying Milky Berry second (or third lol) hand. But AP is going to be releasing a print with sheep on it hnnnnnnnng. And sheep are my favorite animal ;~;
I love OTT sweet, but I could never wear it because a. I'd look silly and b. It isn't really my style anyway.
ALSO, HNNNNNNNG. THAT IS ADORABLE. I LOVE LAMBIES.
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Speaking of lambs, I was at a store in one of my malls and they had a lamb purse, and a bunny purse. I'm guessing they were around for easter, but they were hella tempting. They were $18 though. T_T
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...Holly I need pics of the sheep one.
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I didn't take any. ;_; it was kinda small. but super cute!! I can possibly go back tomorrow and take a pic if you're thinking of making me buy it for you. >_>
When I saw it I thought of you, but I don't have your phone number!!
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Today bunny_jean and I went to a meetup! It was really awesome and she drove me, so we totally had a party car :B
Here's a pic of everyone:
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For some reason we didn't really have any sweet lolita! It was a fun change. I've been trying to move more towards gothic (of course I say this as I'm buying an Angelic Pretty dress lol)
And here's what I wore:
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Everything's offbrand, my skirt is handmade, and my shoes are from Bodyline :3c
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speaking of lolita. found this on the front page of the deviant art page, she looks like a doll D:
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i seriously had to take a double look at this before i knew it was a real person. she looks so cute! >w<
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She is cute, but holy crap her head is so tiny! It's kind of weird...
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Hey, I was a bit sweet! :P and so was Diana I guess, but we were both on the bitter side. Just ironic that everyone wore black/white/cream/brown. No pink to speak of!
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I just got this adorable black and white sailor style lolita dress and I have no shoes!
And all the shoes online are out of my price range!
I'm also planning on making my own dress, but I have no sewing machine...
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I just got this adorable black and white sailor style lolita dress and I have no shoes!
And all the shoes online are out of my price range!
well you know maybe a pair of cute black boots from hottopic or payless. always works. maybe little dress shoes. :3 you can always turn them lolita maybe get some back boots or dress shoes and little hair hows that matches and remove the clip part and glue on the bows or soemthing thats what we did for my friends lolita
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I just got this adorable black and white sailor style lolita dress and I have no shoes!
And all the shoes online are out of my price range!
well you know maybe a pair of cute black boots from hottopic or payless. always works. maybe little dress shoes. :3 you can always turn them lolita maybe get some back boots or dress shoes and little hair hows that matches and remove the clip part and glue on the bows or soemthing thats what we did for my friends lolita
I'll see what I can do.
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Bodyline has cute shoes for fairly cheap, the only thing is shipping.
Actually I'm trying to order from them right now but their website just crashed |:<
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Bodyline has cute shoes for fairly cheap, the only thing is shipping.
Actually I'm trying to order from them right now but their website just crashed |:<
Yeah, I've seen their shoes. I think I'll wait until my dress gets here before I buy any shoes.
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That's a good idea.
I actually have two pairs of lolita shoes from them and they're great quality for the price.
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That's a good idea.
I actually have two pairs of lolita shoes from them and they're great quality for the price.
Yeah, but I heard don't buy dresses or skirts from them because they'll make them too short.
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Really? They have all the measurements on the page with the dresses/skirts, I've never heard of people having a problem with that when it comes to Bodyline.
I think you might be thinking of FanPlusFriend? They tend to mess up measurements pretty badly, but usually they make skirts WAY too long.
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Naw, I found tons of reviews saying that the dresses and stuff were too short for Bodyline.
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It depends on what you're buying. Their old stuff isn't so great (and by not so great I mean very ita, short skirts and all), but their newer stuff is much, much nicer.
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I agree, they're new stuff is pretty nice. I have a OP, a JSK, and a skirt from them and none of them are too short. I've actually had problems with some JSKs being too long. :/ and I'm 5'6".
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I'll have to look again. I mean, I like their products but I'm hesitant to buy one.
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If you find something you like you can always ask us for our opinions <3 Also, some of their shoes run a little small/large, but it's hard to tell which ones.
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I have shoes that might work.
Oh, can't wait till my birthday. I can finally get a sewing machine and make my own lolita clothes!!!
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Yay sewing you're own clothes! About half of my wardrobe is handmade. :) Mostly my skirts. lol
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I wish I could say the same. I like the clothes I get but making your own clothes comes with some pride.
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Most of my stuff is handmade too haha. It's not very well made though, I need to get back into sewing.
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Yeah.
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(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-snc6%2F198837_1869056893501_1453449591_1991221_5551722_n.jpg&hash=9f3d401448258ebb3b65894904cdd294c7679cdf)
YESSSSSSS
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omg soo cute!
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Thank you!
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Oh so adorable!
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Awww Katie you're adorable!! I'm wearing mint today too <3 mintxsax <3 I'll post pictures later/tomorrow.
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Right now I am saving up for the Sugary Carnival Replica from Dream of Lolita.
It is just so cute.
Also, Katie:
I love that strawberry bag that you have in your picture~ I wish bodyline still sold them. ; 3 ;
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Oh I just want this bag soooo much!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lolita-Chupa-Chups-Lollipop-Candy-sweet-Messenger-Bag-/400206177848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d2e25a638
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I'm saving up for AatP's Dance of the Black Cats II JSK in bordeaux. I found it on Y!Japan for 24,000 yen, which I don't have. ):
Also, Blender, that's adorable. <3
Shay, I can't think of Sugar Carnival replicas without thinking of the person who tried to sell theirs on mbok. .
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http://www.clobbaonline.com/index.php?p=1_46
@ u @
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Shay, I clicked on that thread and I just wanted to grab everything off of the screen!!
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Oh am I getting mad at Milanoo right now. I'm trying to order a dress and whenever I press the "PAY" button nothing happens.
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My suggestion- don't buy from Milanoo. They're scam artists.
Also, I have my sights set on IW's Arabesque Rose JSK. The tiered one. It'll fit me, which is great. Just need a blouse to go under it.
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Oh am I getting mad at Milanoo right now. I'm trying to order a dress and whenever I press the "PAY" button nothing happens.
GOOD. DON'T PRESS THAT PAY BUTTON.
Milanoo is being boycotted by the lolita community for very good reasons. Like Richie said, they're scam artists. They send you low-quality products that look nothing like the pictures. If you want inexpensive lolita items, try Bodyline.
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NO MILANOO!!!!!!!!!! DX BAD JUUJUU!
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OH I JUST REMEMBER- my Bodyline stuff is coming tomorrow! I just hope that someone is home to sign for the package...
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Crap...I wish I knew Milanoo was bad...I just bought something from them........Crap...
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^ What'd you buy? I own a pair of bloomers that aren't too bad if you ignore the horrid lace on the bottom, which can easily be replaced.
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A zentai suit (full body suit).
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I've heard great things about their zentai suits actually, and I will probably order one too.
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I haven't heard anything about those, so they might be okay. All I've heard is that their lolita stuff is really sketchy.
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*sigh of relief*
That's good to hear ^^;
So right now I'm working on a Cheshire Cat design that is lolita. A mixture of Aristocrat and punk. I'm pretty excited for it ^^
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OH I JUST REMEMBER- my Bodyline stuff is coming tomorrow! I just hope that someone is home to sign for the package...
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I have a zentai suit from Milanoo that I'm using for me Heartless cosplay. It came out really good. And don't worry the PAY button didn't work sooo yeah. I just orded alot of stuff from Bodyline...like..over $100 worth of stuff. There's like 3 or 4 dresses, 2 pairs of shoes, and some socks. I can't wait to get them. But now I have $71 left on the gift card I got and I don't know what to do with it.
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Give it to me >>
jk
But thanks for the info. I'm actually using the zentail suit for my Neo Shadow cosplay ^^
But yeah...I need money. What I want for my outfit is really expensive TT~TT
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I'll show you the one I got later. I have to go right now though.
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I have a zentai suit from Milanoo that I'm using for me Heartless cosplay. It came out really good. And don't worry the PAY button didn't work sooo yeah. I just orded alot of stuff from Bodyline...like..over $100 worth of stuff. There's like 3 or 4 dresses, 2 pairs of shoes, and some socks. I can't wait to get them. But now I have $71 left on the gift card I got and I don't know what to do with it.
Hurhur, I'll take it. It'll cover the cost of shipping + that skirt I really want. . Okay, kidding, kidding.
You got a Bodyline gift card, or a Visa gift card? If it's the latter, then you can probably search around one of the lolita consignment stores to find a burando skirt or something.
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I have a zentai suit from Milanoo that I'm using for me Heartless cosplay. It came out really good. And don't worry the PAY button didn't work sooo yeah. I just orded alot of stuff from Bodyline...like..over $100 worth of stuff. There's like 3 or 4 dresses, 2 pairs of shoes, and some socks. I can't wait to get them. But now I have $71 left on the gift card I got and I don't know what to do with it.
Hurhur, I'll take it. It'll cover the cost of shipping + that skirt I really want. . Okay, kidding, kidding.
You got a Bodyline gift card, or a Visa gift card? If it's the latter, then you can probably search around one of the lolita consignment stores to find a burando skirt or something.
http://www.milanoo.com/Black-Lycra-Spandex-Unisex-Zentai-Suit-p21057.html
That's the one I got.
It's a visa gift card I only have $37 left on it now because I needed to buy a wig. Hmmm...I'll have to look around to see what I can get. If I get anything else off of bodyline then It'll only be $17 worth of stuff.
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I have a zentai suit from Milanoo that I'm using for me Heartless cosplay. It came out really good. And don't worry the PAY button didn't work sooo yeah. I just orded alot of stuff from Bodyline...like..over $100 worth of stuff. There's like 3 or 4 dresses, 2 pairs of shoes, and some socks. I can't wait to get them. But now I have $71 left on the gift card I got and I don't know what to do with it.
Hurhur, I'll take it. It'll cover the cost of shipping + that skirt I really want. . Okay, kidding, kidding.
You got a Bodyline gift card, or a Visa gift card? If it's the latter, then you can probably search around one of the lolita consignment stores to find a burando skirt or something.
http://www.milanoo.com/Black-Lycra-Spandex-Unisex-Zentai-Suit-p21057.html
That's the one I got.
It's a visa gift card I only have $37 left on it now because I needed to buy a wig. Hmmm...I'll have to look around to see what I can get. If I get anything else off of bodyline then It'll only be $17 worth of stuff.
Not to sound creepy or anything, but how old are you? I used to buy those Visa gift card things and I lost a lot of money on them, mostly because I'd end up with a ton of change left over. ): If you're over 16, you can get a checking account if one of your parents agrees to cosign.
If not, see if you can connect your Paypal to a savings account.
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I have a zentai suit from Milanoo that I'm using for me Heartless cosplay. It came out really good. And don't worry the PAY button didn't work sooo yeah. I just orded alot of stuff from Bodyline...like..over $100 worth of stuff. There's like 3 or 4 dresses, 2 pairs of shoes, and some socks. I can't wait to get them. But now I have $71 left on the gift card I got and I don't know what to do with it.
Hurhur, I'll take it. It'll cover the cost of shipping + that skirt I really want. . Okay, kidding, kidding.
You got a Bodyline gift card, or a Visa gift card? If it's the latter, then you can probably search around one of the lolita consignment stores to find a burando skirt or something.
http://www.milanoo.com/Black-Lycra-Spandex-Unisex-Zentai-Suit-p21057.html
That's the one I got.
It's a visa gift card I only have $37 left on it now because I needed to buy a wig. Hmmm...I'll have to look around to see what I can get. If I get anything else off of bodyline then It'll only be $17 worth of stuff.
Not to sound creepy or anything, but how old are you? I used to buy those Visa gift card things and I lost a lot of money on them, mostly because I'd end up with a ton of change left over. ): If you're over 16, you can get a checking account if one of your parents agrees to cosign.
If not, see if you can connect your Paypal to a savings account.
I'm 16 but I don't have a savings account and my parents don't know that I spend my money on these things. I have them sent to my friends houses so my parents don't find out.
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That sucks majorly, bro. ):
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Man I used to do stuff like that kind of >: My mom hates cosplay and lolita so I'd just have my dad help me order stuff and have it shipped to his house and my mom wouldn't really be able to do anything once I had it since I used my own money.
I'm 18 but still live at home because I'm a senior in high school, and I'm kind of worried about showing her Milky Berry haha... Even worse if she asks about the price D:
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We used to have to be on food stamps, and they'd look at my mom's bank statements so she couldn't order the stuff for me and I could pay her back. I'd ask friends if they could buy it for me online, because their parents would do stuff for that, and it'd ship to their house and they could give it to me at school.
): I'm sorry your mom hates cosplay and lolita. My parents love it, and even if they didn't, my dad can't say anything because he's a Rennie AND is in SCA (and he's even a laurel Dx).
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Well we've kind of learned to agree to disagree. I'd consider myself fairly stylish outside of lolita so we get along when it comes to normal clothing because my mom is, to be fair, a really great dresser. She doesn't usually say stuff about lolita anymore and she's learned to praise me on my sewing rather than focusing on what exactly I'm sewing.
The fact that I won an award in the cosplay contest at Kcon this past year has showed her that maybe I do know what I'm doing haha.
But anyways, back to the main topic.
DHL tried to deliver my Bodyline group order today but no one was home ;^; I want my shoes and cardigan!
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Aw, hopefully he'll come back tomorrow D:. The only time I've ordered from Bodyline, the DHL guy couldn't find our house. He decided not to call my phone number because he thought it was a wrong number (I have an out-of-state area code). Our street is on the freaking map of Roseburg. Dx
I am not allowed to use DHL anymore.
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Oh man! The guy just left one of those notes saying he'd be back tomorrow, and I signed the other side saying to just leave it on the porch.
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so um i found good website for yearly contacts :3 shipping is $5, +$1 for subsequent item. and delivery time is about 15 days!
http://www.honeycolor.com/
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. . Are you kidding me, they have the red contacts I just bought for $10 less. .
How is that lolita relevant, though? xD;;
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cuz sometimes ppl like to change their eye color? :P and especially if you want your eyes to look "bigger" or "cutesy" or w/ez >3>
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yeah, TONS of lolitas use circle lenses. I'm not one of them because they're a bit too expensive and I'm a little creeped out that they last that long. lol
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I want some but I need to see my eye doctor first to see what fit I'd need :D
Also I'm scared of contacts in general :D
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I have a pair of red circle lenses that show up a little purple on my eyes. Contacts seem scary at first, but they're not too bad.
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I just prefer Acuvue. Also, my fit is for them so I'm more confident that they fit my eyes (I got brown for cosplay last year, and I think I'm going to get some of the enhancers <3).
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the reason why these last long than just your average 3 months, is cuz they are not from america lolololol (i joke there, although it's very true for most things made outside of the US, they are more durable, and MADE to be worn and used for that long FOR the right price!)
and acuvue is expensive... it fits very nice, and it's MEANT to be that way, and since they are QUALITY they are obviously going to be more expensive than your average cosplaying contacts.
sure these will last longer, but NOT all contacts last very long, it depends on how well you take care of them! <3
ANYWAYS! LOLITA news <3< SO! i'm looking for a cute blue lolita dress... i mean i have a dress already, but it's not really "lolita" it's more towards "cosplaying" as my character and obviously you can tell the material is a bit more shiny :P
do any of you guys have any old blue lolita skirts that i may buy off you?
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^ The reason Acuvue is expensive is because that's how much Americans are willing to pay. Also, American products are far more durable than most people think. There are American contact lenses that last for up to a year as well. ;)
Sorry, I don't really have much lolita stuff right now. ._.;; I'm having some money problems, so I wasn't able to buy anything I was planning on getting.
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When you have very sensitive eyes, like I do, you have to be really careful where you spend your money on contacts. I'd rather not pay $15 or whatever on a pair of contacts that is going to kill my eyes. I had a friend that got some sharingan contacts that really hurt her eyes, and my eyes are more sensitive than hers. Thus why I stick to Acuvue and usually only one-day contacts (even two week contacts start hurting my eyes if I've worn them more more than three days in a row, even with careful cleaning and storing overnight). I've been wearing contacts for almost 8 years and have gone through a lot of different types of contacts, cleaners, etc. and finally settled on Acuvue one-days. They are really nice, especially if you have sensitive/dry eyes and/or don't wear contacts very often.
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btw katie, you should probably take Etsy off of the "never buy loli from these websites" list. :P
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@bunny: also do keep in mind these contacts are only meant to be worn 5-8 hours lol XD they aren't ALL day contacts like the ones you usually wear :3 and yea i do have sensitive eyes (so bad that i had to rip out the contact on one of the days) but that's cuz i forgot that they were meant to be worn for only 5 or so hours not THE WHOLE DAY! lol
@miria: and yes i know that some US products ARE obviously better quality, but i gotta say, i love Japanese contacts A LOT more than i do US :/ for some reason, they just don't sit as well as the japanese ones >.<
dangnabit! oh wellz... i guess ima have to go to goodwill and see if i can find a good skirt to tear apart and Frankenstein >3>
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btw katie, you should probably take Etsy off of the "never buy loli from these websites" list. :P
I just typed "gothic lolita" into the search bar and got some hideous armwarmers.
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Grawr. All of my stuff has been shipped! But I just realized that I may need some pannier.
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btw katie, you should probably take Etsy off of the "never buy loli from these websites" list. :P
I just typed "gothic lolita" into the search bar and got some hideous armwarmers.
If you type in just "lolita" you get a bunch of other cute accessories. <3
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I dunno, I got some sketchy stuff when I typed in "lolita."
The problem is that with etsy, people put 'trendy' words as tags so that more people will look at their items. Just try searching steampunk and you'll see what I mean.
Also, you should add Milanoo to the "never buy lolita from" list. I know you've put cosplay shops up already, but Milanoo deserves to be up there even if it is twice.
@miria: and yes i know that some US products ARE obviously better quality, but i gotta say, i love Japanese contacts A LOT more than i do US :/ for some reason, they just don't sit as well as the japanese ones >.<
Never tried US contacts, so I really can't say. ^^;; Or Japanese ones, for that matter. All the ones I've tried are Korean brands. I don't even if they were made in Korea. ._.;; I assume most everything I own is made in China, Vietnam, or Cambodia. I have a fleece made in America and that's it.
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I went onto Etsy and typed in Steampunk and just looked at the first page and none of it was Steampunk, then I typred in Lolita and pretty much everything was the same as when I typed in Steampunk...
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Also, you should add Milanoo to the "never buy lolita from" list. I know you've put cosplay shops up already, but Milanoo deserves to be up there even if it is twice.
Oh man that's a really good idea. I wrote that like... before all the Milanoo dramu. So it's added :3
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Also, you should add Milanoo to the "never buy lolita from" list. I know you've put cosplay shops up already, but Milanoo deserves to be up there even if it is twice.
Oh man that's a really good idea. I wrote that like... before all the Milanoo dramu. So it's added :3
Haha, yeah, this thread has been around for a while. And yay~
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My shoes came!!!!
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My shoes came!!!!
PICS?
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My shoes came!!!!
PICS?
^THIS^
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I will tomorrow as soon as I get batteries for my camera.
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oh ^^ I make the headdresses for lolita. their really cute if you guys want me to make you some I do hand made ribbon roses ^^. I m thinking if i do good enough and people like them i can start selling them o.o I m kinda scard becuse I only made one and the girl loved it a lot so maybe you all would like on to ^^
Also you guys thinks i should make bonnets too?
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I can already make all the stuff I want by hand, so I personally wouldn't be interested. ^_^; I never buy handmade because of this. I also usually don't buy skirts unless they're border printed because they're so easy to make. I'll buy OPs and JSKs because I'm usually too lazy to make them, but even then they have to be at least Bodyline.
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I can already make all the stuff I want by hand, so I personally wouldn't be interested. ^_^; I never buy handmade because of this. I also usually don't buy skirts unless they're border printed because they're so easy to make. I'll buy OPs and JSKs because I'm usually too lazy to make them, but even then they have to be at least Bodyline.
hehe i cant make anything right know this summer i m gonnah make my frist dress ever in a kimono styal so i m kinda of excited ^^ and worried at the same time how do you make your head bows? and do you know how to make leg warmers ?
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Titus, I'm actuallt interested in a headbow.
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I'd need it to kinda match that. I got the black one.
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oh oh oh i ll pm you ^^
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Yay!
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Headbows are just rectangles and folds, but a fellow seamstress doesn't give away her secrets (especially when she sells stuff too ;P). ;D I've never made leg warmers, and I'm not sure I'd wear them with lolita. lol What kind of leg warmers did you mean? Knitted ones or Takuya Angel style?
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Just fyi you guys I actually do commissions (http://www.kumoricon.org/forums/index.php?topic=13456.0) for basic lolita stuff like skirts and headbows (http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz360/ma-ka-san/comissions/IMG_3462.jpg?t=1281658191).
Actually, Titus, weren't you going to commission me for a skirt?
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Just fyi you guys I actually do commissions (http://www.kumoricon.org/forums/index.php?topic=13456.0) for basic lolita stuff like skirts and headbows (http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz360/ma-ka-san/comissions/IMG_3462.jpg?t=1281658191).
Actually, Titus, weren't you going to commission me for a skirt?
yes T_T but i cant remind the photo and i got to see how much money i get. i ahd to pay off a really big bill ;-;
ohh Fleur do you make buttons ?
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Buttons? Like with a button maker?
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Buttons? Like with a button maker?
o.o like buttons on a shirt o.O
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Uhhh can't you get those at Joann's...?
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go to joanne's ._. they have TONS of buttons. i should know <-< i just went there and spent money >->
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yeah hehe but they need to look like litt clocks I think my mema is making them. And leg warmers I m working on my frist dress it's alittle kimono dress and my friend said she wanted little leg warmers hehe I realized a moment ago on the dress and buttons I can simply do clay I forgot and leh warmers I can easly make I sound me old ones. Ever seen the lolita dresses that look like kimonos?
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when i mean they HAVE buttons.. they HAVE buttons. you just gotta look for them ;) and i know i have seen clock buttons somewhere >3>
and yes the wa lolita?
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Oh Fleur I wish you could make pannier. iAi
But I may comission some bloomers when I get the money.
And as for clock buttons just go to Ebay and look up steampunk.
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Oh, you need a petticoat?
I wear this (http://cgi.ebay.com/White-Black-Sexy-Layered-Tulle-Crinoline-Petticoat-Slip-/200531577569?pt=US_CSA_WC_Hosiery_Socks&var=&hash=item746acc8391) one (which is only $22 including shipping) underneath a longer petticoat. It gives super poof!
And I'd love to do a bloomers commission :3c
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Oh thank you thank you!
And I'll commission some as soon as I get the money!!
Oh, you want to know the best thing about my shoes?
They shipped in 5 days!
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Pics, yah? :D
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk267%2Fchesire_kitten%2Fth_272216129.jpg&hash=2b56230d0d9892ac14e49073d62ca057d42288fb) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k267/chesire_kitten/272216129.jpg)(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk267%2Fchesire_kitten%2Fth_272216073.jpg&hash=41f87fee2dee3a55bbaa3298001aedc973d3285d) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k267/chesire_kitten/272216073.jpg)
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yeah hehe but they need to look like litt clocks I think my mema is making them. And leg warmers I m working on my frist dress it's alittle kimono dress and my friend said she wanted little leg warmers hehe I realized a moment ago on the dress and buttons I can simply do clay I forgot and leh warmers I can easly make I sound me old ones. Ever seen the lolita dresses that look like kimonos?
Yeah, kimono dresses are wa lolita. Wa lolita usually isn't suggested for newbies, though, because it's really hard to pull off. Leg warmers are usually an 'ita' sign. Not trying to be rude or anything, just trying to warn you. >.>
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Wa-lolita (or kimono-inspired lolita) is difficult to pull off and generally doesn't look the best. However, if you want a Japanese-looking dress, I'd suggest using a fabric that has a kimono-like print on it, like this:
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhellolace.net%2Fwardrobe%2Fmeta%2F2010%2Fjsk%2Fmeta_jsk_kimonoprinthighwaist.jpg&hash=e06edcfe1a116a4fcf70882844d8221bdfb58ede)
The dress is from Meta. I'm not crazy about the actual design of the dress but the pattern is adorable.
Also Blender those shoes are so adorable <3 I want a pair now haha
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its what my friend wanted o.o and i have the pattern for it so ^^ I m gonnah make it look good i hope I can i wouldnt wear it myself. i m more gothic lolita then anything els becuse sweet and other lolita dosent look good on me at all. =.= I got 2 dresses and thats it and their both gothic lolita
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Fluer, I know! I love them! I need to poke another hole in the ankle straps though. Curse you tiny ankles!
Yeah. I'm indifferent on which style I like best. I'm a mix between gothic and sweet lolita myself. But I've never tried wa lolita.
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I love wa lolita, but I'm a blonde-haired blue-eyed freckled white girl. I'd never be able to pull it off unless I drastically changed my appearance.
I like gothic best, and classical after that. OTT Sweet is cute, like I've said, but I'd look horrid in it.
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Maybe if it was the right dress and I had a wig I might be able to pull off wa lolita, but I'm not even going to try, I don't want to ruin it.
Question! How can something be considered lolita when it has no clothes on?
Also: http://browse.deviantart.com/?q=lolita&order=9&offset=48#/doedvn
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I love sweet, classic (but sweeter classic), and pirate. <3 Need to expand my pirate side A LOT.
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I kinda gave up on picking a style. I just wear what I like. And plus now that I know I can fit back shirred AP items, I'm going to be buying a lot more AP...
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lol Katie. XD That's going to be an expensive habit. Have you talked to your friend about getting your bag from me???
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I like all the styles, but as for what I would actually wear I'm defiantly punk and boy-style.
I tried gothic before and it looked good on me, but I just don't wear enough "girly" clothing that it looked kinda weird.
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lol Katie. XD That's going to be an expensive habit. Have you talked to your friend about getting your bag from me???
DERP. She's fine with doing it, she's driving out from Eugene Saturday morning and said she can pick it up on her way out.
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lol Katie. XD That's going to be an expensive habit. Have you talked to your friend about getting your bag from me???
DERP. She's fine with doing it, she's driving out from Eugene Saturday morning and said she can pick it up on her way out.
Okay. I can meet her at the UO bookstore either Friday night or Saturday morning, whichever is her preference. I just hope it's not at the crack of dawn. lol.
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I got my Dresses and JSK and other shoes!!!!!!!
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I got my Dresses and JSK and other shoes!!!!!!!
Woot woot! Pics? :D I like seeing other peoples stuff, can you tell? XD
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PICS, PLEASE.
fleur, there's actually a few AP and Baby dresses I love, but none of them are very OTT.
Also, I just made a Taobao order. :D It's only for a headband (that kidsyoyo violin one aaaah I hope DOL keeps the coats up for a few more months~), but it's a start!
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I'll get some in a few minutes. They won't be very good though. And because they won't be very good is because I need to get a petticoat from my friend tomorrow.
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk267%2Fchesire_kitten%2Fth_IMG_0099.jpg&hash=c193607f35788c039144520d512e96bb449c251a) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k267/chesire_kitten/IMG_0099.jpg)
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Also I want to show you guys my binding shirt:
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(click all for bigger)
And Saturday(tomorrow) I'm planning on wearing one of the dresses to a parade, which one should I wear. It's a cherry festival parade.
I'm also sorry about the purple long sleeve, I couldn't find my blouse.
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http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k267/chesire_kitten/th_IMG_0096.jpg
this one for sure if you can find your blouse lol XD
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I'll look for it. I might have to substitute it though since no one in my town knows what lolita is anyway it won't matter much.
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LOL true but you want to represent it <3 XD
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Yes, I might just have to wear the pink and blue one though seeing as how I probably left my blouse at someone's house. (Lol rhymes)
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lol that sucks D: i hate when that happens >3>
good luck though DX
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Yeah. That JSK does look really cute with that purple shirt though.
Guys guys! I'm reprisenting lolita at my local Petco.
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Yeah me and my friend were walking down the street durring the parade(we decided to do a circus theme she was ring leader and me just...someone...) and two or three people wanted pictures of/with us.
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^ You look adorable. Nice wig, too!
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Cute!
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Thank you thank you!
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oh wow o.o that IS cute <///< DAMN IT NOW I WANT A SWEET/COUNTRY LOLI DRESS T_T
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HAHA! I influence people!!
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well you were part of the influence of my slow conversion to the sweet lolita style (i'm a aristocrat/kuro/wa lover)
i was watching hairspray (original) yesterday and the little black girl's dress, and the dresses that the girls wore in the "Corny Collins Dance Show" reminded me of country lolita, and i'm like <//< "i want that dress... i want to dress like that.. DAMN IT I DON'T CARE ANYMORE! I'M WEARING PINK AND FRILLS AND GIRLY CRAP!" XD
and then i watched grease and the dresses at the prom or whatever dance got to me too, i was like "man those dresses twirl...dang it... i like dresses... DAMN IT ALL I'M WEARING CUTE GIRLY DRESSES I DON'T CARE IF I HAVE TO MAKE THEM!" XD so it was the influence of the "old fashion" girl thing that popped into my mind, and i love lolita style, so i will now try the sweet, and shiro style for sure, and maybe country
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Love those styles on other people, but I think I'd give people heart attacks if I ever wore it XD
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Love those styles on other people, but I think I'd give people heart attacks if I ever wore it XD
ill put you in my mana dress and the wig i have then everyone will think your sooo cute!
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well kristi, i gotta say, i thought i would look horrid in them >3> but i gotta say, i look preetee gosh darn cute XD
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Brolita success! Sakuracon was the most fun I've had wearing a dress in a while. Pictures when I find them :3
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Silly Charlie, you were wearing a maid dress, not lolita.
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I was kinda stunned by how many people showed for the Lolita Cosplay Contest at Sakuracon. Not that there's any reason it shouldn't have been popular, just that I didn't realize it had gotten to be as big an event as Cosplay Contest, Cosplay Chess, and the various dances.
(Btw, my condolences to all the people I had to keep telling "No, the end of the line is still farther back that way." That line just kept going... and going... and going...)
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LOL RANDOMPVG, it was a lolita fashion show, not a contest. And no cosplay was involved.
I modeled, actually :3c I had two outfits; the second gothic coordinate as well as the fourth designer outfit (it was all lavender).
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Silly Charlie, you were wearing a maid dress, not lolita.
Nobody needs to know that. >_>
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LOL RANDOMPVG, it was a lolita fashion show, not a contest. And no cosplay was involved.
I modeled, actually :3c I had two outfits; the second gothic coordinate as well as the fourth designer outfit (it was all lavender).
Ah, thank you very much for the correction - you're absolutely right. I was getting more than a little punchy from lack of sleep by the end of con, and it all started blurring together. :-[
(But that was still one ridiculously big crowd. Congrats to you guys on the seemingly-explosive popularity. (^_^))
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Hahaha it's all good. And yeah, I'm always amazed with how many people actually want to go! Lolitas don't always have the best relationships with cosplayers (which, as another model and I talked about, is dumb since there's a huge common interest there) so it's good to see both cosplayers and lolitas watching the show :3c
Btw here's the designer outfit I wore:
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I get a discount for modeling from her, so I'm seriously tempted to buy this set...
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Silly Charlie, you were wearing a maid dress, not lolita.
You were both cute. ちゅっちゅ！ :D
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Fleur, that's really cute. I like how the cut is a more "adult" style, so it can work for older people as well.
Wish I could have gone to Sac at all TT.TT
But I'm excited to see what all happens in the Lolita Fashion show at WonderNW!
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Every con, I will become slightly more desu, until I am the most desu in all the lands! ~*w*~
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Tom posted all the pics from the Lolita Fashion Show at Wonder NW here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomgood/sets/72157626614919433/).
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I wish I had realized there was a lolita cosplay contest! Why didn't you tell me Charlie! GRR!
My friend had finally finished designing and making my super cute sweet lolita cupcake outfit! At least I got to wear it around and have fun! I'll have to find good pics and show you all!
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I wish I had realized there was a lolita cosplay contest!
I'm not sure where you got this info, but there was a lolita fashion show and a cosplay contest. Lolita is not cosplay.
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I m kinda mad >> becuse i was forced in the show to wear my guy stuff becuse my sister wouldnt let me have the dress i worked so hard on ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomgood/5728691609/in/set-72157626614919433
The gothic lolita dress there was made out of a $2,000 Mana dress that was destoryed and we used the matiral form that to make that dress my sister s currantly wearing. the corcett was becuse it would of looked way to big on her. thats one of my most fav costimes ever.
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I wish I had realized there was a lolita cosplay contest!
I'm not sure where you got this info, but there was a lolita fashion show and a cosplay contest. Lolita is not cosplay.
Probably my fault for giving it that misnomer earlier in the thread... :-[
What you're saying is obviously true if you think about the definitions involved, but I'm so accustomed to the anime world that by default I'd think of any outfit that's not mainstream, involves a lot of attention to detail, is handcrafted rather than mass-produced, etc as being "cosplay" if worn at a con or similar gatherings.
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There is cosplay lolita. its kinda of an informal look as my friend kyo says... its lolita but yet not really seen a lolita. not sure if i m right on what he says.
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i is gonna get a lolita dress! i just ordered my stockings! im trying to decide which ones i want. so many i want! short sleeves, longe sleeves, or no sleeves?! gah! im just super excited about getting one!
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I m kinda mad >> becuse i was forced in the show to wear my guy stuff becuse my sister wouldnt let me have the dress i worked so hard on ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomgood/5728691609/in/set-72157626614919433
The gothic lolita dress there was made out of a $2,000 Mana dress that was destoryed and we used the matiral form that to make that dress my sister s currantly wearing. the corcett was becuse it would of looked way to big on her. thats one of my most fav costimes ever.
A $2,000 Moitie dress? Which one? o.o
Cosplay lolita isn't an informal look. It's lolita done as cosplay and often doesn't look good.
Aside note: I freaking love Kidsyoyo.
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omg! the corset looked amazing with that dress! i want it back though. i freaking love that corset. titus! i might have to borrow your striped stockings for a different outfit.
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I m kinda mad >> becuse i was forced in the show to wear my guy stuff becuse my sister wouldnt let me have the dress i worked so hard on ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomgood/5728691609/in/set-72157626614919433
The gothic lolita dress there was made out of a $2,000 Mana dress that was destoryed and we used the matiral form that to make that dress my sister s currantly wearing. the corcett was becuse it would of looked way to big on her. thats one of my most fav costimes ever.
A $2,000 Moitie dress? Which one? o.o
Cosplay lolita isn't an informal look. It's lolita done as cosplay and often doesn't look good.
Aside note: I freaking love Kidsyoyo.
I am unsure Of what moitie dress it was it was given to me from a friend who said i could use the material of the dress for what ever in the ended we made the dress in the photo out of it it ended up looking really good. and one of my most fav dresses. I really wish i could of seen the orginal dress for it
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omg! the corset looked amazing with that dress! i want it back though. i freaking love that corset. titus! i might have to borrow your striped stockings for a different outfit.
and my stockings are almost dead D: i had those stockings for over 4 years know
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darn. i was gonna use them for the red queen. but my red and black ones work too.
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I m kinda mad >> becuse i was forced in the show to wear my guy stuff becuse my sister wouldnt let me have the dress i worked so hard on ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomgood/5728691609/in/set-72157626614919433
The gothic lolita dress there was made out of a $2,000 Mana dress that was destoryed and we used the matiral form that to make that dress my sister s currantly wearing. the corcett was becuse it would of looked way to big on her. thats one of my most fav costimes ever.
A $2,000 Moitie dress? Which one? o.o
Cosplay lolita isn't an informal look. It's lolita done as cosplay and often doesn't look good.
Aside note: I freaking love Kidsyoyo.
I am unsure Of what moitie dress it was it was given to me from a friend who said i could use the material of the dress for what ever in the ended we made the dress in the photo out of it it ended up looking really good. and one of my most fav dresses. I really wish i could of seen the orginal dress for it
Moitie is expensive, but I really doubt it was $2k. Iron Gate's OP only goes for $1k and that's secondhand, because the price went up with time.
Uhm, personally, I would've used different lace and made the sleeves more blouse-looking instead of flaring at the ends, and the middle panel and the corset don't really match. Striped stockings aren't usually used in lolita, either. ^^;; You did a great job with the shape, though, I like the poof on the dress!
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I see striped stockings all the time. >_> It just depends on how bold the colors are and what you're matching them with. With the above dress I would have gone with more plain stockings, like plain black, because stripes with the pattern on the dress looks a bit busy. I don't really mind the mismatching of the corset and the middle panel. :P I think it's because the middle panel looks good against the blonde hair and the corset looks good with the black. I'm with Miria about the lace though. >_< Although I'm sure it's hard to find a good lace to go with the dress in Oregon without having to dye it yourself. For that dress I would have picked a rose motif venise or net lace that was black.
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yeah normal the socking i dont use >> and so oni just going off whatmy friend told me about the orgnial dress other then that i jsut made waht ever
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I m kinda mad >> becuse i was forced in the show to wear my guy stuff becuse my sister wouldnt let me have the dress i worked so hard on ...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomgood/5728691609/in/set-72157626614919433
The gothic lolita dress there was made out of a $2,000 Mana dress that was destoryed and we used the matiral form that to make that dress my sister s currantly wearing. the corcett was becuse it would of looked way to big on her. thats one of my most fav costimes ever.
A $2,000 Moitie dress? Which one? o.o
Cosplay lolita isn't an informal look. It's lolita done as cosplay and often doesn't look good.
Aside note: I freaking love Kidsyoyo.
Seconding all three of these statements ^
I'm assuming you were lied to or something; the only Moitie dress (as MiriaRose already pointed out) that is even close to that expensive is Iron Gate and your dress is definitely not Iron Gate. Not to mention Moitie dresses are super tiny and don't have much fabric to work with, so I'm not even sure how you'd make a second dress out of it.
Cosplay lolita doesn't exist within lolita fashion; it's like cosplaying Stocking and calling yourself a lolita. The character wears "lolita clothing" but it doesn't fit the actual guidelines of lolita (dem short skirts). It's a costume.
I want stuff from Kidsyoyo @_@
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I see striped stockings all the time. >_> It just depends on how bold the colors are and what you're matching them with. With the above dress I would have gone with more plain stockings, like plain black, because stripes with the pattern on the dress looks a bit busy. I don't really mind the mismatching of the corset and the middle panel. :P I think it's because the middle panel looks good against the blonde hair and the corset looks good with the black. I'm with Miria about the lace though. >_< Although I'm sure it's hard to find a good lace to go with the dress in Oregon without having to dye it yourself. For that dress I would have picked a rose motif venise or net lace that was black.
You can buy black venise lace online from cheeptrims.com or Martha Not Mary on Etsy.
Striped stockings are advised against because they tend to show up a lot in "ita" outfits. They go great with punk lolita, though~
Fleur, I only have the violin headband in bordeaux, but it is beautiful and I want the rest of the set liek nao. ):
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what do you guys think of this lolita dress? http://www.fanplusfriend.com/servlet/the-1854/Country-Lolita-Short-Sleeves/Detail
i know the thread says no milanoo. but, ill probably buy one from there too. http://www.milanoo.com/Cotton-Black-Sleeveless-Lace-Classic-Lolita-Dress-p13046.html thats another one im looking at.
http://www.milanoo.com/Cotton-Pink-And-Black-Lace-Ruffles-Punk-Lolita-Dress-p12775.html this one is nice too! so many choices! i already found a pair of shoes. if i dont get them in time for kcon, i have a pair of boots thatll work.
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The F+F dress doesn't look bad, but F+F's quality varies a lot. I'd stay away from any custom orders.
As for Milanoo. . The thread says not to buy from them for a VERY good reason. They're scammers and liars and create fake blogs to advertise their products, and they used to harass people on egl who left bad reviews on their products. Seriously, just Google "Milanoo review." You'll see how terrible their dresses are.
I own a pair of "decent" bloomers from Milanoo. The lace is horrid, as is the sewing. I wouldn't buy from them again.
As for the dresses themselves. . It's often advised for newer lolitas to stay away from the black/white combination, or any contrasting colour combination, and for good reason. A lot of people new to the fashion don't have the experience to know bad lace from good lace. Not saying anything bad about you, it's just common.
Contrasting colours make bad lace stand out even more, and Milanoo is notorious for its bad lace. It'll just look bad.
tl;dr Milanoo makes horrid products don't buy from them
If you want inexpensive lolita items, then go to Bodyline or Taobao.
Sorry if this seems too angry or rude; it just really isn't hard to Google reviews of companies.
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i will keep that in mind! thanks! ^^ (was it that obvious i was a newbie?) i have a "lolita" tutu i got from hot topic (it has bows and stuff) but thats about it. ive always admired lolita. just havent had a chance to buy any yet.
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i bought my blue lolita dress from fanplusfriend, and i love it <3 it fits me so nicely :3 and it looks nice (although you gotta iron it >.< i kinda forgot to do that >3>)
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I see striped stockings all the time. >_> It just depends on how bold the colors are and what you're matching them with. With the above dress I would have gone with more plain stockings, like plain black, because stripes with the pattern on the dress looks a bit busy. I don't really mind the mismatching of the corset and the middle panel. :P I think it's because the middle panel looks good against the blonde hair and the corset looks good with the black. I'm with Miria about the lace though. >_< Although I'm sure it's hard to find a good lace to go with the dress in Oregon without having to dye it yourself. For that dress I would have picked a rose motif venise or net lace that was black.
You can buy black venise lace online from cheeptrims.com or Martha Not Mary on Etsy.
Striped stockings are advised against because they tend to show up a lot in "ita" outfits. They go great with punk lolita, though~
Fleur, I only have the violin headband in bordeaux, but it is beautiful and I want the rest of the set liek nao. ):
Oh, I know where I get MY venise lace. I have a crap ton from cheeptrims. Not to mention I said "in Oregon," as in "in a store in Oregon." Basically everyone knows you can find almost anything online nowadays. :P
I have two pairs of striped tights/socks that I wear with outfits: blackxwhite to mainly go with Pirate Loli coords, and whitexred that I've worn with my Christmas coord and also with a pinkxred coord. Yes, bxw aren't advised normally, but they can go with a variety of outfits, and I was meaning striped stockings/socks in general, which come in basically every color combo imaginable.
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i will keep that in mind! thanks! ^^ (was it that obvious i was a newbie?) i have a "lolita" tutu i got from hot topic (it has bows and stuff) but thats about it. ive always admired lolita. just havent had a chance to buy any yet.
If you got it from Hot Topic and it's a tutu, it probably isn't lolita, just keep that in mind.
You might want to check out egl (http://community.livejournal.com/egl), hellolace (http://www.hellolace.net), and lolitafashion.org (http://www.lolitafashion.org) before buying anything, just a hint. ;)
I see striped stockings all the time. >_> It just depends on how bold the colors are and what you're matching them with. With the above dress I would have gone with more plain stockings, like plain black, because stripes with the pattern on the dress looks a bit busy. I don't really mind the mismatching of the corset and the middle panel. :P I think it's because the middle panel looks good against the blonde hair and the corset looks good with the black. I'm with Miria about the lace though. >_< Although I'm sure it's hard to find a good lace to go with the dress in Oregon without having to dye it yourself. For that dress I would have picked a rose motif venise or net lace that was black.
You can buy black venise lace online from cheeptrims.com or Martha Not Mary on Etsy.
Striped stockings are advised against because they tend to show up a lot in "ita" outfits. They go great with punk lolita, though~
Fleur, I only have the violin headband in bordeaux, but it is beautiful and I want the rest of the set liek nao. ):
Oh, I know where I get MY venise lace. I have a crap ton from cheeptrims. Not to mention I said "in Oregon," as in "in a store in Oregon." Basically everyone knows you can find almost anything online nowadays. :P
Sorry, I didn't read that part. Whoops. ^^;;
I have two pairs of striped tights/socks that I wear with outfits: blackxwhite to mainly go with Pirate Loli coords, and whitexred that I've worn with my Christmas coord and also with a pinkxred coord. Yes, bxw aren't advised normally, but they can go with a variety of outfits, and I was meaning striped stockings/socks in general, which come in basically every color combo imaginable.
Haha, true. If they're coordinated correctly, they can look really good.
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it isnt true lolita. but, it works for a closet outfit. and thanks!
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No problem. ^^
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I see striped stockings all the time. >_> It just depends on how bold the colors are and what you're matching them with. With the above dress I would have gone with more plain stockings, like plain black, because stripes with the pattern on the dress looks a bit busy. I don't really mind the mismatching of the corset and the middle panel. :P I think it's because the middle panel looks good against the blonde hair and the corset looks good with the black. I'm with Miria about the lace though. >_< Although I'm sure it's hard to find a good lace to go with the dress in Oregon without having to dye it yourself. For that dress I would have picked a rose motif venise or net lace that was black.
You can buy black venise lace online from cheeptrims.com or Martha Not Mary on Etsy.
Striped stockings are advised against because they tend to show up a lot in "ita" outfits. They go great with punk lolita, though~
Fleur, I only have the violin headband in bordeaux, but it is beautiful and I want the rest of the set liek nao. ):
Oh, I know where I get MY venise lace. I have a crap ton from cheeptrims. Not to mention I said "in Oregon," as in "in a store in Oregon." Basically everyone knows you can find almost anything online nowadays. :P
Sorry, I didn't read that part. Whoops. ^^;;
It's all good. I know I get excited to tell people where they should get lace when it seems like they're asking. XD
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I see striped stockings all the time. >_> It just depends on how bold the colors are and what you're matching them with. With the above dress I would have gone with more plain stockings, like plain black, because stripes with the pattern on the dress looks a bit busy. I don't really mind the mismatching of the corset and the middle panel. :P I think it's because the middle panel looks good against the blonde hair and the corset looks good with the black. I'm with Miria about the lace though. >_< Although I'm sure it's hard to find a good lace to go with the dress in Oregon without having to dye it yourself. For that dress I would have picked a rose motif venise or net lace that was black.
You can buy black venise lace online from cheeptrims.com or Martha Not Mary on Etsy.
Striped stockings are advised against because they tend to show up a lot in "ita" outfits. They go great with punk lolita, though~
Fleur, I only have the violin headband in bordeaux, but it is beautiful and I want the rest of the set liek nao. ):
Oh, I know where I get MY venise lace. I have a crap ton from cheeptrims. Not to mention I said "in Oregon," as in "in a store in Oregon." Basically everyone knows you can find almost anything online nowadays. :P
Sorry, I didn't read that part. Whoops. ^^;;
It's all good. I know I get excited to tell people where they should get lace when it seems like they're asking. XD
xD;; Yeeeah. . IT ISN'T MY FAULT VENISE LACE IS SO BEAUTIFUL.
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okay, i looked at those websites, i like hellolace. i found some i like. but, i wont be able to pay for it for a while.
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We're in the same boat, then. xD;; So many coords. . So little money. .
In my experience, though, it's better to buy something expensive that'll last for a while than something cheap that won't last for long.
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makes sense.
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We're in the same boat, then. xD;; So many coords. . So little money. .
In my experience, though, it's better to buy something expensive that'll last for a while than something cheap that won't last for long.
Thats not always right i ve gotten things that were expensive and it ended up falling part after wearing it only a few times. as for my stuff from mailanoo they still togeather and i ve had them all for alittle over 2 years
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We're in the same boat, then. xD;; So many coords. . So little money. .
In my experience, though, it's better to buy something expensive that'll last for a while than something cheap that won't last for long.
I also love my expensive stuff a lot more- my Angelic Pretty dress is the most expensive one I own but it's gorgeously sewn, is lined, fits me like a dream (f yeah shirring), and has huge pockets.
Meanwhile I bought a pair of $25 shoes from Bodyline and, after wearing them twice, they had two huge spots where the paint has come off. No bueno.
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We're in the same boat, then. xD;; So many coords. . So little money. .
In my experience, though, it's better to buy something expensive that'll last for a while than something cheap that won't last for long.
Thats not always right i ve gotten things that were expensive and it ended up falling part after wearing it only a few times. as for my stuff from mailanoo they still togeather and i ve had them all for alittle over 2 years
And was it Bodyline or from Taobao or burando? They tend to be of better quality than Milanoo. I own a pair of Milanoo bloomers and a pair of Bodyline bloomers, and the Bodyline bloomers are much, much better quality and constructed better. (the funny thing is? they cost around the same price; bodyline's shipping is just more expensive.)
Even if it's lasted two years, if it isn't of good quality, I'd rather have something that is. Especially because you can drop a good amount of money on a Milanoo dress that could have been spent on a much better quality one.
Fleur, I've heard while Bodyline's dress quality has gone up tremendously in the past few years, their shoes. . Not so much. Is that true?
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I own two pairs of Bodyline shoes and they're pretty good quality.
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No clue. But, the thing is, I use to have no problem with the idea of owning Bodyline's original print stuff, whereas now I'm kinda... Not as fond of it. I can name and list the brand and almost any print I see, including Bodyline ones, and I know a lot of lolitas who can do the same, so I'd rather save up for one really nice AP or Baby dress rather than a few Bodyline ones.
As for shoes, I have three pairs from them. Some white ones, black rocking horse shoes, and now a red pair (the ones with three red bows up the front). The white pair is super destroyed (my fault) but still wearable, the rhs are in pretty good condition, and the red ones are okay. The rhs were $50 plus shipping and they look the best.
I would get shoes from them because if you split the shipping in a group you'd get ~$30 shoes plus like $4 for shipping but now they got rid of DHL so I'll probably move on to taobao for shoes now.
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I'm so irritated that they got rid of DHL. ): There was some stuff I wanted to buy, but EMS is really expensive. I see what you mean about rather buying brand, though. I'd rather buy brand, too, but there are some Bodyline pieces I like.
Blender, that's good, there was a pair I was interested in a while back.
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i have bought things here in target and kmart, or sears, and they fall apart in less than a year. and then i buy things that i have commissioned from Fanplusfriend, and a few ebay sellers, and they are still here, after 1.5 years ._. yeah... and i paid about $100+ for some outfits...
and since we are talking about shoes >3> should i go with taobao??? or should i try bodyline? ._. *is scared* cuz i need some white short heeled, "x" strap shoes.
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Go ahead and buy shoes from Bodyline if you can afford them. Buying from taobao isn't worth it for one item. Just be careful with white shoes because they scuff easily, but scuffs can be carefully wiped off with nail polish remover.
Bodyline just came out with that skirt with the dessert print with like chocolate and strawberries on it and HNNNNNG I want it so badly! But as I've said I'd rather save that money and buy an Angelic Pretty jsk. After the fashion show Holly let us pick out some things provided by Billy Galaxy and I got a pink and white adorable headbow that we think might also be Angelic Pretty (but an older piece), and I don't have anything to wear with it.
Also Bodyline's raised their prices which is total bs because their quality hasn't improved as far as I know.
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aww D: i never got anything T^T
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I KNOWW I super want that print! And kinda want the waffle one. >_> lol.
I have a few pairs of BL shoes. White flats, blue semi-heels with the ruffle on the toe, and white boots. I've had them for a while (like over a year) and they haven't fallen apart yet!
As for BL prices... yeah they've definitely gone up. I usually wait until I see that they've lowered the price on the things I want (because if they aren't selling they lower the prices), then order. The last skirt I got from there I got for $19, but I'm pretty sure it was much more originally.
I just lust after brand. XD I'm too poor right now and just got out of a debt hole caused by brand. :P I don't want to get back into it... but why is everything so tempting????
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Seconded on Taobao not being worth it for only one thing. The only reason I just have one thing from there right now is because a friend was making an order and asked if I wanted anything.
Bodyline's quality has improved over the last few years, but I doubt a huge quality increase has happened within a few months. Still, though, they're cheaper than brand and still cheaper than other cheap stores like Milanoo and F+F, and they've got better quality than both.
I love that strawberry JSK. And the waffle JSK. Freaking sweet lolita, why are there so many lovely prints that don't suit me at all? Dx
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well i saw the shoes .3. but they don't have what i want on bodyline :( i saw the parasol and the underskirt that i wanted but not the shoes T^T the most important part ;~; oh well. i'll keep looking.
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I've decided that I'm going to save up my money and buy AP's Sugar Pansy OP in pink~
The official online shop actually has them still in stock so idk if I can find it used for cheaper... But it's becoming one of my dream dresses so I'm willing to pay the price :>
But if I find an amazing deal on another dress then I'll probably buy that instead. Sugar Pansy just came out this year so in a while the price will probably go down.
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I really like the more casual JSK of that print <3 In lavender and mint though. http://www.angelicpretty-usa.com/shopping/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=1127
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Ooooh, pretty!
My dream dress from AP is the Marionette Girl JSK in the black and red colourway. Sadly, it's never on sale on Y!Japan or mbok, and when it is, it's always in the pink or blue colourways. ):
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i can have my mom make that dress ._. not worth 400 IMO
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I've never seen a dress cost $400 unless it was a super rare print, I paid $250 including priority shipping and insurance for my AP dress. And it's amazingly sewn, is lined with nice fabric, has full shirring in the back so it fits me perfectly, has custom lace, detachable waist ties, adorable details, and huge pockets sewn in.
Definitely worth the money to me.
Plus you can't make the fabric used in the dress nor can you get the lace.
@Miria- Marionette Girl is sooooooo cute! And it's the best in red, you're right.
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On bodyline I want to buy a yukata any sugestions?
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Qutieland has a Marionette Girl replica, but it's like, $126 +shipping, plus you have to wait quite a while for them to make it for you. I'm not sure how it compares to the original either. http://www.qutieland.com/product.php?id=467
Plus, I haven't seen it for sale on the sales comm at ALL this year.
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Moitie has $400 dresses, but Moitie tends to use super special fabric and other stuff that makes them nice.
Also, Moitie's prices are nothing compared to haute couture dresses. To get a couture dress, you'd end up dropping around $16-20k or more.
Bunny, I could get it cheaper on Kidsyoyo's actual taobao shop (Qutieland does terrible markups as fleur mentioned earlier in the thread), but ever since I began lurking /cgl/ I've become paranoid of buying replicas. ._.;;
Jacob, I'd tell you not to, if only because Bodyline's yukatas look kind of sketchy. h.Naoto's made a few yukatas, which you can find on Rakuten.
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Can I have a link miria?
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On second thought, it's way more expensive. . (http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/inshop-mall/h%EF%BC%8Enaoto/-/sid.252790-st.A)
Sorry, I can't really help you. ^^;;
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i'm just saying that my mother could easily make me a dress like that (she has in the past when i was a little girl) and even add all the details on the fabric by hand if she had to. it's a challenge but it's not hard >.< and it would be much cheaper to make it on your own than buying it >3> i'm starting to think that i should make my lolita dresses in the future <3<
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Well you know I can try my best.
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...I'm not sure if it's because you haven't seen my dress in person, but you can't just flawlessly recreate it. Even just recreating the print would be immensely expensive because theoretically you could get custom printed fabric but that is like $30 a yard and you need at least three yards of it for the skirt alone. Then you have the lining which is some sort of satin-silk fabric, a built in petticoat with stiff netting, and at least three differently printed lace.
You could recreate how non-print items look, which I've considered doing and probably will do, but honestly I find it rude that you're saying your mom could just whip out the same exact thing that costs less than mine.
If your mom can do that then she should go into business because she'd be a millionaire.
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Hey guys! Got my first JSK in the mail just a few days ago~ Innocent World's Royal Crown Embroidery in chocolate x cafe au lait.
Now if only I could make an outfit to save my life... :I
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:D Awesome, Richie!
Fleur, luvan: In addition to what fleur said, you'd also have to recreate the lace. Since you most likely can't do that, you'd have to commission it from someone who can, which would be expensive. There's also the ribbon, which has the print on it as well. Finally, unless your mom is a professional seamstress, you probably won't get the same quality that AP has.
Sorry, but these dresses are priced this much for a reason. Keep in mind that these are designer dresses, not something from American Eagle or Hot Topic.
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i didn't mean to sound rude >.< i was merely stating (since i don't have $400 to spend on a dress, that i may only wear occassionally, since i'm not a dress person, and i do change my style everyday) it would be pointless to buy a dress for that much money, and my mom could easily make it for me, and add as much details as possible, and still somewhat look as cute as that. it may not be silk, or expensive material, but she can definitely make it look professional enough and detailed enough to say, that it can pass as a good dress.
never said it can be the same exact thing, but coming from a girl that won't spend more than $15 for a pair of jeans, and isn't too fond of dresses (barely getting into lolita fashion here) i was just saying that the dress can be made, and immitated, for less, and still look good (should have said this earlier, but i was in a rush)
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Maybe you're not reading my posts, but not many people spend $400 on a dress (unless, as Miria pointed out, it's Moitie or something like that). I don't know anyone who's spent over $300 on a dress, even. And I sew. I've sewn almost all of my lolita stuff, and I know Holly/bunny_jean is an amazing seamstress.
That said, I've only seen one seamstress who could sew at the level of brand, and she's the designer of an indie lolita brand and does commissions for a living, and trust me when I say she's amazing. And even then she charges high prices because sewing stuff with that level of perfectionism takes a LOT of effort and time.
Can you make cute outfits for cheap? Yes, and I did it for several years. But now that I have money to spend on nicer stuff I think my outfits look way better.
Honestly, lolita is expensive. It's about looking expensive and well put-together, and if you're not willing to pay at least more than you would on normal clothes then this might not be the fashion for you. I was told this as a stupid 14-year-old complaining about paying $50 for a skirt, and I realized way later how true it is.
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lawl i know you have to spend money for a nice outfit, and knowing how it's about having "class" that's great. but for those of us who do not have the money, and actually want to look cute, then we can sew.
and yes, some people do spend over 400 bucks on a dress, and others don't and just do a 100 deal.
i'm sorry that this got into such a big discussion.
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Yes you can save money making your own Lolita, people aren't disagreeing about that. But the point is that brand is expensive for a reason: their prints are custom made on very fine material ($20-$30 for custom printed fabric at home, and it's not going to be on the best fabric, and there could be printing issues), a lot of their lace is also custom made (you can find similar laces on Cheeptrims or Kuboriki, but with Cheeptrims you have to order at least $60 or so items, and Kuboriki is based in Japan and I have no idea how their site works. lol), the construction is impeccable (seams serged, all items are identical, so yours and your friends should be exactly alike, unlike replicas). Needless to say, by the time you've spent all the money to "make your own exact replica of a brand dress," you've dropped around $120 on fabric and lace alone, plus all of the man hours involved (when I do special commissions I charge for materials +$10 ish per hour of work), you've spent about as much money as a brand dress would cost you.
Also, you can save money on brand by buying second hand on the comm_sales, fairy angel, closet child, etc, etc, etc. I have three brand dresses. One I bought directly from AatP for around $370 total (I slightly regret spending that much money, but it's the most gorgeous thing on earth and I've only seen it second hand from places about three times since I bought mine, and it was still about that much money). The other two are Btssb Snow Dot OP's, one in mint and one in pink. The mint one I got at the Baby store in San Fran for 40% off because it was old stock. The pink one I got on Closet child for about $150. Depending on the print, style, and popularity of a dress, you can either save money or spend more on second hand compared to its original retail price.
Please understand that we're not trying to target you, we just want you to understand what we're trying to say, because it seems like you aren't understanding and just keep saying that "your mom could make that same dress for less money."
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i do understand what you are saying, but i'm stating that if i don't want to spend that much money, my mother CAN replicate it to the best of her ability, (even if she can't get the print custom made, we can easily just paint it on), so that I can have a dress that I can wear, and fit me and look like it. i can't afford a dress like that, and i rarely find used dresses in my size. (9-12)
i understand that those brands are expensive for A REASON. materials, time, it's all in the price. believe me. if a costume can go up to 1k I should know that a fashion line such as these, can get up much higher due to the materials being so hard to make, or hard to find.
and i know you aren't targeting me, you are targeting my words, expressions, etc. so you can get your point across to the best of your ability. but sadly when it comes to arguing, even if both parties don't intend to hurt one another, there is always some bruises.
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^ I could be wrong, but it seems like the sticking point is "to the best of her ability" - would it be accurate to say that to you it means "Good enough to make me happy, even if it's not a true replica" while to others it means "Good but not on the same level as professional"? It seems like the two are the same definition, just from different perspectives.
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For the record, I have nothing against replicas, and I want to buy a few for myself simply because I can't fit into all dresses (and usually by only 1 or 2 inches ffffff-), but good luck painting this:
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5067%2F5585484527_c8e3f9654d_z.jpg&hash=604e4045dda6b2f814d6e03ff054f89e6b1b41e0)
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5093%2F5586076330_12f9864973_z.jpg&hash=a7cf592f276ec4dafd96aee755eb274a8144c103)
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.static.flickr.com%2F5296%2F5585484663_4f4af57b6e_z.jpg&hash=75728128abf21fc650bdbedfb6bb94c0b716da22)
I took these pictures in April but man just looking at them reminds me of how worth the price it was <3
And I'm excited because I just found out one of my good friends who is also a lolita is moving down to Portland next week! I can't wait! We're going to have a little meetup to welcome her :DDD
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Also, it really all depends on how you value your time.
In a few months I'm going to be a full time college student taking 18 credits. With a job. Basically: I'm gonna be busy and have no social life or time for much stuff. It really isn't worth it to buy a sewing machine and learn to sew because I'm gonna be so busy, and it'd be cheaper for me to just buy brand.
I've got nothing against replicas and I hope this doesn't offend you, but it seemed like you were complaining about how much brand costs because your mom could make it for much less, according to you. Sorry if that isn't what you meant.
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Eep! Katie I'm so excited Kirsty is moving down! <3 Also Pirates meetup sometime peeps? I was hoping for the weekend of the 11th and 12th cuz I'll most likely be up for bf's sister's grad party/open house. I just have to be inconspicuous. :P
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A Lolita Pirates meet? Sounds interesting.
*sigh*
I can't wait to get a job so i can actually buy Kodona clothing...Right now I just have to live off Goodwill and making my own things...
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Eep! Katie I'm so excited Kirsty is moving down! <3 Also Pirates meetup sometime peeps? I was hoping for the weekend of the 11th and 12th cuz I'll most likely be up for bf's sister's grad party/open house. I just have to be inconspicuous. :P
Me too! I hope the weather gets nicer really quickly because I want to plan a zoo meet in celebration of her and her posse moving down here.
And go for it! Seriously just do what I do and post on lj/fb saying "show up here at this time and day for a meet" and whoever shows up shows up. People waffle around trying to decide a time/date/activity and then nothing ever ends up getting done >:
Oh man I have no clue what I'd wear to a pirate-themed meet...
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I'm just unsure if I'll be going up there, but I should be? There was also talk of a meetup the weekend after that on lj. So June looks to be full of meetups! I'll probs only be able to go to one though. >_<
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Just try to go to the meets that you want to, if you want to see Kirsty then I'm pretty sure she'll be going to plenty of meets haha.
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That was basically one of the big reasons she wanted to move out of Walla Walla anyway. XD I'll post something about going to see Pirates soon. >_<
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ffffffff I read 'Kirsty' as 'Kristy' and was about to yell at you for spelling my name wrong. ._.;;
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lolololol
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ffffffff I read 'Kirsty' as 'Kristy' and was about to yell at you for spelling my name wrong. ._.;;
I kept misreading it as 'Kristy' as well, and I was wondering why people were talking about me.....
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too many similar names!! Kirsty, Kristy, and Kristi??? Fer realz? lol
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lol
Yeah. That's why I'm going by a different name. It's so difficult having a name that can be spelled 10 different ways XP
So, I'm working on an outfit right now. Trying out a younger kodona look. Will be interesting if I look any good being a young boy...I'll post pics when it's done to get opinions.
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Do it!
I'm kind of working on a kodona/pirate outfit. I made some shorts last term. Here: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a27/bunny_7373/DSCN1551.jpg I need to fix how high waisted they are, but I want to make a matching vest and tricorn (with this tutorial: http://www.natronundsoda.net/klamotten/cns/klamottenpage.html?id=103). :3
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I am invading my school with lolita!
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jean, that's awesome ^^ Can't wait to see it. I'm wearing a quick outfit right now at school, just to see if I look any good. Friends have said I look good in this style, so I'm gonna experiment with more things.
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HOLLY I LOVE THOSE BLOOMER SHORTS <3
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Thanks y'all! :D I will def post pics when I end up finishing it, which I have no idea when it will be. XD
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I'm gonna wear what i have of my outfit tomorrow, so I'll make sure to get pictures.
I'm defiantly liking the style, considering it will be nice in the summer when I just really don't wanna wear pants ^^
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June 5th is International Lolita Day so I planned a meetup here (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=202236506485701).
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Looks pretty awesome! I'm defiantly gonna try to go ^^
I'll probably do a different outfit, since the one I'm working on is more country/steampunk...
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Did you mean to say defiantly, or definitely? lol Either way works. XD
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O.O
I'm bad at English ^^;
So sure....?
Anyways, I'll post two pictures tonight to see what you guys think. One is more aristocrat Kodona, and the other is more Steampunk young Kodona. I wanna know which I should work on for the June 5th meet.
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too many similar names!! Kirsty, Kristy, and Kristi??? Fer realz? lol
Kristee, actually. ;)
And haha, fleur, you planned that on my graduation day. Ah well; it's not like I'd be able to go anyway. I don't even have a co-ord yet.
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I've been wanting to get into lolita fashion forever! I don't really have anything truly lolita to wear... but would I be welcome at the Pittock mansion meetup? I'd really like to meet some of the community even if I'm still kind of freshly into it :I
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I've been wanting to get into lolita fashion forever! I don't really have anything truly lolita to wear... but would I be welcome at the Pittock mansion meetup? I'd really like to meet some of the community even if I'm still kind of freshly into it :I
KELSEY YOU ARE WELCOME EVERYWHERE BECAUSE YOU'RE SO CUTE
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KELSEY YOU ARE WELCOME EVERYWHERE BECAUSE YOU'RE SO CUTE
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_llsbqstbQ11qe37eb.gif&hash=3edef42584c22558737b904b6fce4c8bd912c02e)
EEEEE <333
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^LOLOLOLOLOLOL^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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That just made my day XD
So, here are the pictures~
Aristocrat Kodona (http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6198/commissions004.jpg)
Also planning on getting a top hat and putting blue roses on it. And will probably add some more details in places.
Steampunk young Kodona (http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7155/commissions061.jpg)
Will probably add a jabot or a tie, and might get a lighter colored vest...
Also, just want opinion if this style looks any good on me. Thanks.
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I think the top coord could use a Jacket to be more aristocrat, and def a hat, like you said.
The second one is looking pretty great! I think more steampunky accessories and maybe more balloony shorts (you know what I mean? like this: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-036p4OzMmxI/TdVkYqGYP0I/AAAAAAAACeE/hup_YDzvX-I/s1600/popup_41e2937a900c0.jpg) would look a bit more Kodona.
Otherwise I think they're starting to come together!
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I'll look into a jacket. Once I have money, I'll be getting official items.
I actually have a lot of stuff to add to that outfit to make it more Steampunk, but I didn't want to wear them b/c I was just wanting to show the basic style and see what people thought. I probably wont do the puffy shorts, just b/c I have large thighes and I don't want to show that off anymore >>
But thanks ^^
Wondering, which one should I wear to the meet up June 5th?
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They don't have to be super poofy, just a little poofy around the knee would be good. I have thunder thighs as well. :X
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I see what you mean. I was at school before so couldn't see the picture. I'll try that, thanks ^^
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Hey, all, I've been interested in lolita for a while now the more I learn about it. THanks for starting this thread, fleur. Do you guys think it'd be weird looking if someone taller dressed in the poofs? I think I'm generally older than the lot of you (I'm 25) and I'm also 5'10". I don't pull off cute very well. What do you guys think?
Also, can't wait to see your guys' outfits at Kumoricon. Lolita outfits are getting so cute nowadays.
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I think you should be fine. There are more lolita fashions that aren't so "cute", try aristocrat.
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Hey, all, I've been interested in lolita for a while now the more I learn about it. THanks for starting this thread, fleur. Do you guys think it'd be weird looking if someone taller dressed in the poofs? I think I'm generally older than the lot of you (I'm 25) and I'm also 5'10". I don't pull off cute very well. What do you guys think?
Also, can't wait to see your guys' outfits at Kumoricon. Lolita outfits are getting so cute nowadays.
There are girls in our community pushing 30 and I started going to meets when I was 15, so age really isn't a problem.
As for tall, go for it. Bronte wears lolita and is crazy tall, and then she wears heels on top of it haha. I think tall lolitas are really striking and look larger than life, and short lolitas (like me!) are cute and tiny.
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Aristocrat lolita? I think I know what style you're talking about, and I hadn't considered it! I wish I was on the shorter side so I could pull off the cute look, but oh well, I guess.
Thanks guys :)
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Aristocrat isn't really lolita, but it's a related style.
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Aristocrat isn't really lolita, but it's a related style.
This, aristo is pretty much welcomed at lolita events though. It looks amazing when done well!
Also I wasn't trying to say you can't wear sweet because of your height! My motto when it comes to lolita (and things in general haha) is if you like it, wear it :3
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I'm wondering what outfit I should get first. I really wanna get an actual outfit and then work on getting pieces and making my own stuff. If you guys could help and give opinions, that'd be wonderful ^^
Here's my facebook page where I have all of them posted: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2121592683398.126223.1353240719
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Heyyy! im planning a lolita meet up @ clackamas town center! I was thinking maybe we can all watch a movie and walk around, do some shopping, and meet new loli friends!Click on the event!
https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=230162213667695 (https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=230162213667695)
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I'm wondering what outfit I should get first. I really wanna get an actual outfit and then work on getting pieces and making my own stuff. If you guys could help and give opinions, that'd be wonderful ^^
Here's my facebook page where I have all of them posted: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2121592683398.126223.1353240719
Those all looks good to me, but you have to be careful with F+F. Their mess up a LOT of orders and send stuff out that's completely the wrong size or material. You should look up reviews before buying from them.
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*cough i bought from them cough cough they are good cough cough*
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I've seen some reviews and it seems fine.
Maybe I should ask this: summer is coming up and I'd rather not do sweet lolita, what style should I look for?
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*cough i bought from them cough cough they are good cough cough*
*cough I've seen a lot of really messed up products come from them cough it's generally agreed that they're hit-and-miss among the lolita community cough cough cough*
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I'll probably just try with them. I've seen a lot of their clothing that I really like. If something's wrong I'll either send it back and complain or just fix it myself.
Or are there good sites that sell Kodona outfits? I haven't found very many, and that's the style I defiantly want to have the most of.
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Just because you had a good/bad experience with a store doesn't mean they're omgawesome/omgterribad, guys. ;) But fleur is right, look up reviews.
I'm tempted to go on a Taobao shopping spree. I just got a ton of graduation money, so. . Anyone know any gothic lolita Taobao shops that aren't listed on HelloLace already?
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I'm pretty sure Hello Lace has pretty much all of them. If not then I'm sure there's a big post on egl you could look up~
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there is, but I'm not sure how up to date it is. It's either in the memories or tags or both.
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Thanks, I'll look for it. :)
Normally I'd spend this money on burando, but I'd rather buy some basics to my wardrobe first. I'd buy some Bodyline, too, but they got rid of DHL, so. .
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Yeah. since they got rid of the $20 shipping it's a lot less appealing. Plus a lot of their stuff is getting more expensive. That's why Bodyline was great before, cheap and cheap shipping for decent items.
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Trudat about them getting expensive.
I'd suggest Anna House for blouses, but they're getting slightly more expensive too |:<
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I don't mind them getting a bit more expensive, considering inflation and the fact that their stuff is really good quality and it's still relatively cheap.
However, I am irritated by the lack of flat-rate shipping. Although I've heard they were paying for most of the shipping themselves to keep it flat-rate, so. .?
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I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE DOUBLE POST
Hey, fleur, are you any good at sewing? I know bunny_jean is, too, but I know you better. |D;; No offense, bunny_jean, I've just had bad experiences with seamstresses on here before.
And if you are, are you willing to take commission? :3
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lololololol. That's okay. I live in Eugene, so if fleur can't do your commission and you'd like to try me out, I'll be willing to in a few weeks. ;D and if I flake on you you can kick my ass. :P
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It depends on what haha. I can make skirts no problem! What do you have in mind?
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You know the VR skirt by AatP, the corset-style one? I'd seriously love to have a Derpire Romance skirt in that style. |D
And bunny, thanks! I actually live in California right now, so you'd have to ship it to me. Obviously, I'd pay for shipping.
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I don't think I'd be able to give you a very good product since I've never made a high-waisted skirt before >: You should commission bunny_jean/Holly though! She's an AMAZING seamstress!
Btw do you know anything about the Derpy-chan swatches? I want to make something for myself too haha.
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Alright, Holly, are you good with prints and high-waisted skirts? :3
And sadly, I don't. I'm kind of a failure when it comes to making things, hence why I'm trying to commission it. xD;;
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Well, I haven't made one before, but I could make a pattern now that I have a dressform. I've been meaning to make myself a high waist pattern anyway. I'm not sure what you mean by prints. I've never made my own print, nor have I bought custom printed fabric before. Also, I dunno what "Derpire Romance" is? Let me know if you want to see pics of what I've made before. You can e-mail me at bunny_7373@yahoo.com if you want too.
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Alright, just dropped you an email! Thanks. :)
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Hello....I've never done lolita before but I think it is very cute and I was curious about it.
I don't know if I'll look good in it but I have wanted to try the style. I figured you girls would be the best to ask.
I keep seeing Shay post pictures on facebook and Fluer post pictures on the forums and...I just really like how they look.
What is the best way to start out and see if I look good in the style to maybe pursue it as a fashion? I don't want to buy a $200 professional dress only to find out I look ugly. D: (I know they aren't all that price but you get what I mean, right?)
So please be gentle to the noob...
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I started out making myself a dress based on this Simplicity pattern: http://sewing.patternreview.com/patterns/20732 I basically just shortened the skirt and changed the hem line from straight to scalloped. I suggest if you're unsure about getting into the fashion to just test out the silhouette by making a simple rectangle skirt and putting petticoats under. It's fine to test it out with a t-shirt. If you decide you like the silhouette, I suggest trying to find blouses, head wear, socks, and shoes to match or compliment the skirt you made. Then you have a coordinate! The more you look at outfits and the more you experiment with coordination, the better you'll look and the better you'll feel in the style. I suggest looking at Daily Lolita for inspiration for coordination (http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/), and going to your local fabric store for skirt inspiration. For the rectangle skirt, it's easiest to get 1.5 yards of fabric, cutting 2 20 inch long by the width of the fabric, or one 90 inch length if you're going parallel to selvage, then cutting a 4inch X your waist length along the same grain for the waistband.
Edit: here's a pic of that first dress I made: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a27/bunny_7373/daily%20lolita%20and%20egl%20post%20pics/DSCN1854.jpg
You can view my Daily Lolita posts here: http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/?poster=bunny_jean
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Alrighty, tutorial mode.
Since you're a newbie, your best bet is to honestly just look at lolitas. Really, that helps so much. You start to see what cuts/colors/styles you like, you see what you think works and what you don't, it helps you figure things out. Here's a great place to see outfits:
http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/
As for actually buying clothes, I'd say go with Anna House (prices in HKD) (http://annahousefashion.com/), maybe Bodyline]/url] once you get good at picking out what looks good in terms of lolita.
Your best bet as you start out is to find things you can modify locally or sew your own things entirely. I learned to sew because I wanted to make my own lolita stuff.
Uhhh do you have any specific questions? (http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/)
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Comm_sales has some amazing deals, too.
I'm in the middle of buying a beautiful Moitie dress for $120 right now.
(also, your url tag broke)
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I have some questions about making the clothing, do you know of anyplace that has good patterns?
I recently went to Japan and was planning on buying a lolita dress, but they are insanely expensive because it's super high quality and a ton of fabric (the dress I wanted was about $400). My mom is a seamstress and so I'm wanting her to just make me something, but she wants a pattern, or at least a basic pattern that she could alter.
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The skirts are basically just circle skirts from what I've read, if that helps any.
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As I said in my above post, this is a good pattern to start with for a OP: http://sewing.patternreview.com/patterns/20732
Otherwise look at costume patterns that look easy to alter. I like rectangle skirts. You cut the fabric such that you'll have it be 20" long, and then 90" to gather to your waist measurement.
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Just got my first Lolita outfit and I love it ^^
Where's a good and cheap place to get shoes?
Though, I may just end up making spates, since it's gonna be more of a Steampunk outfit.
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Here's (http://shop35767391.taobao.com/) some (http://shop33988685.taobao.com/) places (http://shop33915487.taobao.com/). And (http://shop33202015.taobao.com/) some (http://shop58746168.taobao.com/) more (http://shop33633435.taobao.com/).
Those are Taobao shops, though, so you'll need a Chinese shopping service. Most people on egl use Taobaospree, although I'm trying out Dollypoodle right now.
There's also Bodyline.
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Bodyline has good, cheap shoes. I have also bought from Qutieland, a shopping service type of webshop, although a lot of their stuff is to order, so it can take quite a long time. I've also bought from an ebay store called Brick Toys.
Links:
bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/
http://www.qutieland.com/index2.php
http://stores.ebay.com/Brick-Toys-Shop/_i.html?_fsub=423781016&_sc=1&_sop=1
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^ The problem with Qutieland is that they have a ridiculously high markup, as fleur mentioned before.
Brick Toys looks promising. :D
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Don't know if this is allowed to be in here but what do you think about this gothic lolita makeup turtorial?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk6lWXSE5IY&feature=view_all&list=PL4C3C3A33F90F862B&index=10
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As much as I love Michelle Phan, this tutorial is too over the top for me. Most Lolitas don't make their eyebrows so thin, or quite as much eyeliner as she puts on. A lot of Lolitas use fake lashes nowadays, but not on the eyelids like she does, or bottom lashes. Lots of Lolitas do wear circle lenses though. Here's a link to more tutorials, and you can always browse through daily_lolita to look for more make up inspiration. :)
http://egl.livejournal.com/tag/beauty%3A%20make%20up%2Fskincare
http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/
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Hey guys! How many people would be able to make it to a meetup on Day 0 starting between 2 and 4 pm? I'm trying to plan the meetup and would like to know how many people would attend!
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I can probably make it. :D
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I'll try!
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Guys guys guys
Omgomgomg
I'm gonna be in SF when the new Black Peace Now store opens! :D
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I could make it to a meetup on Day 0! Depending on whether or not it gets here in time I'll either be wearing my new JSK or my Royal Crown Embroidery JSK. Ah, the wonders of only owning two dresses.
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@Miria: Sweet! Be sure to go to the other stores! :)
@Richie: Awesome! Yeah, it's kind of a pain having so many things to wear because then I want to wear something new to every meetup or event. XD
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. . And now I am disappoint because they're just moving their stock to Harajuku Hearts. -emo wristslit- But of course I'll go to Baby and AP!
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I want to go to AP D8
And ffffffff I want to buy so much more stuff ;A; I need shoes and stuff to wear with Jewelry Jelly...
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OH BUT IT TURNS OUT H.NAOTO IS OPENING IN BPN'S OLD STORE SO I'LL BE THERE FOR THAT <333333
I know that feel bro. I want Meta's newest print like burning.
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Oh what's their new print of?
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The night of the masquerade one? Or Fairy Tale?
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Masquerade. It's beautiful!
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It is quite pretty! Link for those that don't like to search around: http://www.metamorphose.gr.jp/english/_new_items/autumn_collection/index.htm
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Their stuff is so pretty~ ♦w♦
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I really have a distast for deco lolita(dont now if its called that) >> I dont like the cake patterns becuse when i frist got into lolita things it was gothic and classic lolita. and i think they look much better. I mean deco looks good on some girls but then agian the whole cupcake dress were the skirt his so far up your butt looks big dosent looks good. I m more into the look of a doll then anything els .
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I respect your opinion even if I disagree and am confused by it.
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I really have a distast for deco lolita(dont now if its called that) >> I dont like the cake patterns becuse when i frist got into lolita things it was gothic and classic lolita. and i think they look much better. I mean deco looks good on some girls but then agian the whole cupcake dress were the skirt his so far up your butt looks big dosent looks good. I m more into the look of a doll then anything els .
I think you mean OTT Sweet.
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dotn ask its 5 am were i m at an dieing... see what i was trying to say.
1) I dont consider lolita that as cake designs and candy and stuff as lolita. I find it more childish. a to attention grabbing
2) I am very into the way Mana From malice mizer dress his EGL dresses. I find them more elegant. Like how lolita would be becuse my friend whos big on lolita says. that Classic and EGL are what lolita really is becuse lolita is sopost to be victorian. (not that i care. what it needs to be )
3) Classic lolita is what I'm really into i love how it looks more victorian. and seem more fitting to myself then whites and pinks
4) its only confusing becuse of the way i wort it . i write better on paper then keys. anyways One thing i dislike as well girls who wear deco/ott sweet( not all girls) will tell me my dress is bad quality when theirs is falling apart and their useing safty pins to keep the skirt attached. no joke i find most girls who wear lolita are really stuck up brats. and rude. but not saying you guys ares just stating my opinion. but anyways enough about that.
( kinda ranting becuse i found something out watching youtube videos :p bla )
I am looking for the name of the kimono style lolita dress. or what ever you want to call it. I am making one for my little cusen for her play this winter. and i need to see designs sadly i cant find the right name so its not showing what i want. TY
Thank you for clearing the name for me Chihiro
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Titus: Im going with Fleur in disagreeing with you but respecting your opinion, though I do believe that to be a form of lolita, as are Classic and Gothic. Just a different style, some like it, some dont.
and the kind your looking for is called Oriental style lolita. See this link for styles and names http://lolita-handbook.livejournal.com/3035.html, it's a bit dated but never the less useful.
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that is what i am looking for. she picked it not me i just have to make it :p and yeah its an Opinion I have and not alot people agree. but then agian there are some Dress i do like because Fleur has a dress i think it has strawberries on it that i like. but would never see myself wear.
and thats all i m posting on here >> so cya guys around and good luck on finding cute things.!
-titus out :p-
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dotn ask its 5 am were i m at an dieing... see what i was trying to say.
1) I dont consider lolita that as cake designs and candy and stuff as lolita. I find it more childish. a to attention grabbing
You do realize that lolita is based off of children's fashion from the Rococo and Victorian eras, right? Right? Also, sweet lolita existed years ago, too, gothic was just the most popular at the time. Now it's OTT sweet. Also, cake is totally lolita.
2) I am very into the way Mana From malice mizer dress his EGL dresses. I find them more elegant. Like how lolita would be becuse my friend whos big on lolita says. that Classic and EGL are what lolita really is becuse lolita is sopost to be victorian. (not that i care. what it needs to be )
Your friend who is big on lolita really needs to read up on her Victorian fashion then, because the only dresses that looked anywhere /near/ lolita were the crinolines from the 1830s-1860s and those had really low necklines. Lolita is based off of pre-revolutionary French fashion as well, which sweet draws more influence from. Also, just because Mana doesn't design Angelic Pretty's dresses doesn't make them not lolita.
3) Classic lolita is what I'm really into i love how it looks more victorian. and seem more fitting to myself then whites and pinks
Right, but just because you're not into it doesn't mean it's not lolita.
4) its only confusing becuse of the way i wort it . i write better on paper then keys. anyways One thing i dislike as well girls who wear deco/ott sweet( not all girls) will tell me my dress is bad quality when theirs is falling apart and their useing safty pins to keep the skirt attached. no joke i find most girls who wear lolita are really stuck up brats. and rude. but not saying you guys ares just stating my opinion. but anyways enough about that.
Who are these rude lolitas you're talking about? I know a lot of girls in the Portland community and they're pretty cool; I have trouble believing they'd be that rude.
I am looking for the name of the kimono style lolita dress. or what ever you want to call it. I am making one for my little cusen for her play this winter. and i need to see designs sadly i cant find the right name so its not showing what i want. TY
You mean wa-lolita?
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I am looking for the name of the kimono style lolita dress. or what ever you want to call it. I am making one for my little cusen for her play this winter. and i need to see designs sadly i cant find the right name so its not showing what i want. TY
You mean wa-lolita?
gah, I thought it was that or oriental, but I checked the live journal site to be sure.
Oh well, note taken for future reference.
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I am looking for the name of the kimono style lolita dress. or what ever you want to call it. I am making one for my little cusen for her play this winter. and i need to see designs sadly i cant find the right name so its not showing what i want. TY
You mean wa-lolita?
gah, I thought it was that or oriental, but I checked the live journal site to be sure.
Oh well, note taken for future reference.
I try to avoid saying things are "oriental" unless I'm being facetious. >.>
Butyeah, Asian-inspired lolita is wa-lolita if it's Japanese or qi-lolita if it's Chinese. I haven't seen any Laotian or Vietnamese or etc. variations, although I've seen people on egl ask about them from time to time.
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I am looking for the name of the kimono style lolita dress. or what ever you want to call it. I am making one for my little cusen for her play this winter. and i need to see designs sadly i cant find the right name so its not showing what i want. TY
You mean wa-lolita?
gah, I thought it was that or oriental, but I checked the live journal site to be sure.
Oh well, note taken for future reference.
I try to avoid saying things are "oriental" unless I'm being facetious. >.>
Butyeah, Asian-inspired lolita is wa-lolita if it's Japanese or qi-lolita if it's Chinese. I haven't seen any Laotian or Vietnamese or etc. variations, although I've seen people on egl ask about them from time to time.
not fond of the term either, but seemed fine in this case... I'll stick to Wa Lolita now though.
And getting off topic, but thanks for the info, good to know. (still reading all your posts in Colberts voice...)
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I am looking for the name of the kimono style lolita dress. or what ever you want to call it. I am making one for my little cusen for her play this winter. and i need to see designs sadly i cant find the right name so its not showing what i want. TY
You mean wa-lolita?
gah, I thought it was that or oriental, but I checked the live journal site to be sure.
Oh well, note taken for future reference.
I try to avoid saying things are "oriental" unless I'm being facetious. >.>
Butyeah, Asian-inspired lolita is wa-lolita if it's Japanese or qi-lolita if it's Chinese. I haven't seen any Laotian or Vietnamese or etc. variations, although I've seen people on egl ask about them from time to time.
not fond of the term either, but seemed fine in this case... I'll stick to Wa Lolita now though.
And getting off topic, but thanks for the info, good to know. (still reading all your posts in Colberts voice...)
Hahaha, yeah. Also, I freaking love wa-lolita and would love to try it out. Except I'm super duper white. ._.;; There was a /cgl/ thread a while ago and I asked them for advice but then some trolls invaded and it derailed.
Would you like me to switch back to Fabio? He's pretty awesome too. <3
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wut, didnt know you were a /cgl/ goer (I'm JillyBean on there) and dang trolls, oh well.
I want to get into lolita, actually I find the 4chan lolitas not to be that bad. Most are really pretty honest and they make funny captions for images. I browse there for cosplay but I look at their lolita threads since we share a board.
And naaah Clobert makes me happy <3
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I'm anon. 8D why so many trips and names from Oregon? I FEEL LIKE I KNOW ALL OF YOU.
4chan lolitas aren't too bad but there's a lot of trolls and a lot of idiots. Then again, you could say that about any place on the internet.
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As for Titus's opinions, that is your opinion if you don't like Sweet or OTT sweet Lolita. However, what makes something Lolita is the silhouette, construction, and coordination. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and taste, but it's rude to call someone else's style "not Lolita" just because you don't like it.
On the topic of /cgl/ and 4chan... I make it a point to not go to these sites because it is too easy for haters and trolls to say hateful things. Also, I totally don't understand the format of the threads. XP
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The format confused me too at first, but I understand it now. I like the image and help threads, right now there's a hilarious lolita macro thread, once in one of those threads someone made two macros of me making my >:C face. So quality.
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Guyssssssssss
My new dress shipped yesterdayyyyyy
I'm gonna be the frilliest betch everrrrrrrrrrr
This fashion, guyssssssss
This fashionnnnnnnnn
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Richie, you amuse me XD
I truly think if you do the right kind of makeup anyone can pull off Wa-Lolita.
I have to say it's soooo weird to have people calling me pretty and such...I got a lolita outfit recently and have already worn it........I guess I'm just too used to being male characters ^^;
Wondering, would like opinions on my Lolita. It's supposed to be a doll and Steampunk themed. I'm planning on making a wind key to attach to the back, but wondering what else I may change/add to improve it.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=144627092285481&set=t.1353240719&type=1&theater
(Feel free to look through all the pics to get closer looks)
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I've been looking at lolita stuff since about jr high and I can honestly say I've never seen anyone look good on wa-lolita '~' Maybe the closest are those shorter hime-gyaru-style kimono that you can buy in Shibuya, but that's it.
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I've been looking at lolita stuff since about jr high and I can honestly say I've never seen anyone look good on wa-lolita '~' Maybe the closest are those shorter hime-gyaru-style kimono that you can buy in Shibuya, but that's it.
I think my roommate looks good in her Wa loli dress~
She is on the right: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a27/bunny_7373/DSCN1710.jpg
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Sorry for the double post, but I realize I never posted the official facebook event page for the meetup: https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=194070577319841
There is also a meetup at the Zoo next week: https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=181016281966325
Also, if people haven't joined our facebook lolita group, it is the "For" category for both events, Portland Lolita Tea and Cake Society.
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I've been looking at lolita stuff since about jr high and I can honestly say I've never seen anyone look good on wa-lolita '~' Maybe the closest are those shorter hime-gyaru-style kimono that you can buy in Shibuya, but that's it.
-sob- I know. ALAS.
Also, I just received two petticoats, so I figured I'd give mini-reviews on them? There won't be any pics because I'm too tired to put stuff on and take pics but maybe later~
I have a Leg Avenue A-line petti and a VictorianGirl cupcake petti. The VictorianGirl petticoat gives MASSIVE poof. Like, squeezing through doors poof. It's a bit long with my MmM dress but that dress isn't cupcake shaped anyway.
The Leg Avenue petticoat isn't nearly as poofy but it has great shape and is by far poofy enough for a lolita silhouette.
AND UH IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO ASK.
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I've been looking at lolita stuff since about jr high and I can honestly say I've never seen anyone look good on wa-lolita '~' Maybe the closest are those shorter hime-gyaru-style kimono that you can buy in Shibuya, but that's it.
-sob- I know. ALAS.
Also, I just received two petticoats, so I figured I'd give mini-reviews on them? There won't be any pics because I'm too tired to put stuff on and take pics but maybe later~
I have a Leg Avenue A-line petti and a VictorianGirl cupcake petti. The VictorianGirl petticoat gives MASSIVE poof. Like, squeezing through doors poof. It's a bit long with my MmM dress but that dress isn't cupcake shaped anyway.
The Leg Avenue petticoat isn't nearly as poofy but it has great shape and is by far poofy enough for a lolita silhouette.
AND UH IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO ASK.
If you want poof every tried looking for square danceing peticoats i have one and it works amazing
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I've been looking at lolita stuff since about jr high and I can honestly say I've never seen anyone look good on wa-lolita '~' Maybe the closest are those shorter hime-gyaru-style kimono that you can buy in Shibuya, but that's it.
-sob- I know. ALAS.
Also, I just received two petticoats, so I figured I'd give mini-reviews on them? There won't be any pics because I'm too tired to put stuff on and take pics but maybe later~
I have a Leg Avenue A-line petti and a VictorianGirl cupcake petti. The VictorianGirl petticoat gives MASSIVE poof. Like, squeezing through doors poof. It's a bit long with my MmM dress but that dress isn't cupcake shaped anyway.
The Leg Avenue petticoat isn't nearly as poofy but it has great shape and is by far poofy enough for a lolita silhouette.
AND UH IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO ASK.
If you want poof every tried looking for square danceing peticoats i have one and it works amazing
The VictorianGirl petticoat is a square dancing petticoat, basically a knockoff of the Malco Modes pettis.
I'm happy with my petticoats for now, though, but thanks.
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I have a Malco Modes petticoat, but it's more A-line, so I usually roll the top to make it shorter and put a Bodyline petti on top of that to make it more cupcake shaped. If I'm going more casual I'll just do a couple of Bodyline ones.
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Which color should I get of this?
http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/showProduct.asp?id=6411&pageNumber=1&pageStop=stop_1&noSubType=N#picture
I don't like the beige and the black is too much which leaves pink, lavender, and mint. My favorite color is lavender but I want to know people's opinions on which color goes best with the pattern. Here is a close-up of the pattern:
http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/frame01.asp?type=new&tor=5
Please let me know~! This is going to be my next purchase!
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The pattern looks best with the beige and the pink, IMO.
Also, my JSK came today~ I need to find a better shirt to wear with it but it's so lovely and soft and flowy :D
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Which color should I get of this?
http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/showProduct.asp?id=6411&pageNumber=1&pageStop=stop_1&noSubType=N#picture
I don't like the beige and the black is too much which leaves pink, lavender, and mint. My favorite color is lavender but I want to know people's opinions on which color goes best with the pattern. Here is a close-up of the pattern:
http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/frame01.asp?type=new&tor=5
Please let me know~! This is going to be my next purchase!
I like lavender or pink. I think pink looks best with the print colors though.
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The pattern looks best with the beige and the pink, IMO.
Also, my JSK came today~ I need to find a better shirt to wear with it but it's so lovely and soft and flowy :D
SEND ME GODDAMN PICTURES
This is how I stop lurking what even
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Nevurrrrrrrrrrr
I'll take pictures tomorrow evening or something. I'm covered in sawdust right now.
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you better.
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You know... Ive always considered getting into lolita... and today some one linked me to Mary Magdalene... I think officially I'm going to start buying the fashion... It's just so.... cute.
(I'm not an OTT sweet fan myself though so I'll probably stick with classic. Looks adorable on others just not my style)
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Jumping into petticoats, Leg Avenue actually has a petti that's pretty dang good when layered.
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As I mentioned before, it isn't so bad by itself, either. Maybe not good for OTT sweet, but it's got a good silhouette for classic and gothic.
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I've got one by them and if I had much more poof my JSKs would start doing funny things at the waist because I would have more poof than skirt.
Then again I'm fairly Classic. But I like the petti I have right now.
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Doublepostan with my new dress :DDD
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You look adorable! :D
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Very cute! I love it : )
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I need to figure out what I'm going to do for hair and accessories. My Sheryl Nome wig won't cut it and a cravat won't fit with my dress. I have nice shoes though :3
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Me gustaaaaaaaaaaa~
I bought a pair of Secret Shop socks to wear with Jewelry Jelly and they came today! They're so cute <3
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Just relized i cant make skirts anyone now a good pattern?
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A rectangle or circle skirt works with lolita.
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A rectangle or circle skirt works with lolita.
kk
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Doublepostan with my new dress :DDD
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Doublepostan with my new dress :DDD
Is that your own blond hair, or a wig? I cant tell lol
But! if it is your real hair, I think some cute curls and a half up-do would look nice. kinda like this ~~~> http://egl.livejournal.com/9355855.html
As for accessories, maybe some black and red hairclip bows in the curls, and some black pear earings?
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It's actually my Sheryl Nome wig, hahahahaha. I have it in a braided kind of updo thing with a big clip right now, dunno if I'll change it or even wear it to the meet at Kumo. I probably need a different dress shirt before that. I don't own much in the way of hair accessories besides a headband I got from IW, so that might have to be it :\
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It's actually my Sheryl Nome wig, hahahahaha. I have it in a braided kind of updo thing with a big clip right now, dunno if I'll change it or even wear it to the meet at Kumo. I probably need a different dress shirt before that. I don't own much in the way of hair accessories besides a headband I got from IW, so that might have to be it :\
I have a pair of red hairclips with black fishnet over them, kinda gothic like. I only have one right now cuuuz I lost the other lol but you can have one if you want. I have a never-ending supply of hair accessories lol As for the hair and such, what does your natural hair look like? My friend Danni and I love to play with hair, we could help you if youd like.
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My hair's really short. Like a really really shaggy pixie cut with long sidebangs. I can't do much with it, but it looks fine on me.
I might nick one of my mom's hats to go with this dress or go find a straw boater or something.
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My hair's really short. Like a really really shaggy pixie cut with long sidebangs. I can't do much with it, but it looks fine on me.
I might nick one of my mom's hats to go with this dress or go find a straw boater or something.
Ah, so its like mine. I can work with that lol I have a simple headband with a red bow and a black sugar skull on it that you could borrow. And then we can just tease the back of your hair around it to make it all big and poofy. Or, I have a metal silver headband, with a mesh bow on it that I wear all the time with anyhting I want to look slightly lolita and such. I got it at payless for 6.99. Im sure they stil have more if you wanna go there and look.
But, if you want to wear your wig, or buy a new one (which I dun think you do, cuz wigs is pricey), I found this tutorial on curls for wigs
http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&q=curling+a+wig#/d3faqb3
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My hair's really short. Like a really really shaggy pixie cut with long sidebangs. I can't do much with it, but it looks fine on me.
I might nick one of my mom's hats to go with this dress or go find a straw boater or something.
I have a fake pearl headband with a black flower on it you can borrow if you want, bro. Also a straw hat but Idunno about your head size.
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Hahahaha all this talking about teasing my hair- my hair doesn't work like that. It takes an entire can of hairspray to get it to hold any kind of curl. It literally has to be a crunchy mess for it to stay in any sort of shape.
Guyssssssss I have a fancy shmancy burando headband with lace and pearls and stuff that goes with my dresssssssssss I don't need to borrow anyone's I might loooooooose it D: also I just went and looked and I could borrow hair things from my mom. She does ballroom stuff so she has more rhinestone hair thingies than she knows what to do with. I think she has a few rhinestone star clips.
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Lol thatll be cute ^-^
And hun, any hair can be teased lol I put mine up in short liberty spikes every day, and all it takes is a small tease and hairspray to do that for my short hair.
Anyways, I was wondering, would any of the lovely lolitas like to join us at the park for a lolita photoshoot? Someone mentioned that it would be nice to have one so we could see all the pretty dresses and cuteness that comes with lolitas lol If you would like to, check the Photoshoot Thread for times and locations ^-^
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Not all hair can be teased and curled like your's, mine, when it was longer, could barely hold a curl, even with hairspray.
And I know there's a lolita meetup on day 0, is a photoshoot really needed too?
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Yeah, my roommate's hair is like that. If you try to curl it you have to use a whole can of hairspray and a curling iron that goes to like, 200 degrees. Then it will only stay for like, 2 hours. XP And teasing.... You try and you have to use another can of hairspray and that will only stay for a little bit too. I've tried. Then there's my hair. All I have to do is not brush it and it looks teased. XP
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That was fun. :D
And yeah, I have really flat hair. I just wear a wig.
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We HAVE to have a photoshoot! Cm'on, people, who's with me?!!!
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We are having a meetup on Day 0, Friday. We will take pictures, but we are NOT having a formal photoshoot. There will be way too many people for a formal photoshoot, and Lolitas generally do not turn meetups into photoshoots. Lolitas have photoshoots, yes, but they are almost always very small groups or singles. Long story short, we are having a meetup, not a photoshoot.
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We are having a meetup on Day 0, Friday. We will take pictures, but we are NOT having a formal photoshoot. There will be way too many people for a formal photoshoot, and Lolitas generally do not turn meetups into photoshoots. Lolitas have photoshoots, yes, but they are almost always very small groups or singles. Long story short, we are having a meetup, not a photoshoot.
Yeah I think a photoshoot is extremely unnecessary, not to mention almost all of us are cosplayers on top of that and we'll be in costume most of the con.
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True that. I'd be more than happy to take pictures, but like with my phone so I can make them all snazzy and put them on my tumblr.
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So I won't have an outfit for con but I did order my first Lolita outfit! ^^
I just have one more payment and it will be shipped out to me~<3
I got an OP and a winter coat. I really hope it looks good on me and I'm super excited! I'm moving out of my parents house (again) so I can start dressing how I want to instead of how my mom wants me to.
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Awesome! Where did you get it from?
Also, would any of you fine ladies be interested in buying this (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=3758569447&) Surface Spell Gothic JSK in blackxblue? I bought it, but the bust was a bit small (34"). ._.;; It's gorgeous irl; I'm just angry I can't wear it.
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So pretty, but my bust is 36 inches ;A;
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I got it from EGL Comm Sales on Livejournal. ^^
I just need to wait for my next paycheck to send in the last payment and then my dress will be shipped.
That's so pretty...and so tempting...
But I need to finish paying off this OP first. DX
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>: Aw, okay. Well, it'll be $80 shipped, to anyone interested- That's cheaper than what I paid for it with shipping and SS fees.
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I don't know how to read Taobao for prices. How much did it originally cost? You don't have to answer if you don't want to.
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$75 USD is the base price. However, you gotta add on 12 yuan for shipping to my SS, the 10% SS fee, and then it was $20 shipping over here. Dunno how much the shipping would've cost on its own, though.
So altogether, it cost me 94.14, although I imagine if someone bought JUST that from the SS it would've been a little cheaper. I edited my price by $10 to reflect that.
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God, that's gorgeous, but my bust is like 42" so it most definitely would never fit me.
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Awww. Oh well. ):
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Which wig should I get for this dress?
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This one?
http://cosplaywigsusa.com/gothic-lolita-wigs/blended-strawberries-and-cream-2g-lolita-pre-order/
This one?
http://cosplaywigsusa.com/gothic-lolita-wigs/blended-strawberries-cream-lolita-1g/
Or this one?
http://cosplaywigsusa.com/gothic-lolita-wigs/blended-lolita-wigs/psychedelic-sunrise-deep-pink-yellow-blend/
Or a completely different one?
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I like the last one
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None. GLW is terrible. Go with Amphigory or Taobao.
And that last one doesn't really suit subdued sweet lolita.
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I'm looking at Amphigory and not seeing any possible wigs. They look cheap and ugly. :O Am I looking at the correct sight? http://www.amphigory.com/
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Yeah, you are. They're really high quality wigs. o.o
Which ones are you looking at?
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GLW is hit and miss, I have two friends who are "muses" for them and they seem happy with their stuff, I've worn a few of their wigs and they're okay. Overpriced though :/
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Yeah, you are. They're really high quality wigs. o.o
Which ones are you looking at?
I just don't think they're very lolita-y. I like the really curly pretty wigs. :O
fleur: I agree, they are very pricey, but really pretty~!
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Amphigory has lovely wigs, actually. Most if not all of them are from the same people that used to supply Cosworx. I might actually buy a curly black one from them because I'm putting together a really 90's classic Kuro coord.
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Yeah, you are. They're really high quality wigs. o.o
Which ones are you looking at?
I just don't think they're very lolita-y. I like the really curly pretty wigs. :O
fleur: I agree, they are very pricey, but really pretty~!
Eh, I've read too many horror stories about GLW too buy from them. They get all their stock from China anyway; you can find the same wigs on Taobao for half the price.
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So I received my first lolita dress the other day only to find out it's not the color the seller said it was. They said it was black and it ended up being a Wine/Burgundy/Maroonish color. It's an adorable dress but the waist is also a bit big on me.
I am unsure if I should sell it (or trade) to someone else and get another dress that is more fitted or add waist ties in the same fabric so it fits better.
Also, where would I find shoes to match? As soon as I find my camera I'll post a picture of the dress (FYI, I have no petticoat yet) but in all my searches for matching shoes I have found none. I wanted them to be the same color as the main color of the dress because I think white shoes would be a bit much since white is such a small portion of the coord. But maybe I'm wrong. This is my first dress after all...
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So I received my first lolita dress the other day only to find out it's not the color the seller said it was. They said it was black and it ended up being a Wine/Burgundy/Maroonish color. It's an adorable dress but the waist is also a bit big on me.
I am unsure if I should sell it (or trade) to someone else and get another dress that is more fitted or add waist ties in the same fabric so it fits better.
Also, where would I find shoes to match? As soon as I find my camera I'll post a picture of the dress (FYI, I have no petticoat yet) but in all my searches for matching shoes I have found none. I wanted them to be the same color as the main color of the dress because I think white shoes would be a bit much since white is such a small portion of the coord. But maybe I'm wrong. This is my first dress after all...
Definitely post pics, cuz that color sounds awesome. Although you should bring it up with the seller. :T
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Here's a picture of the dress... I like the color and all but the fit is what bugs me. Plus, I still have no idea where to find good shoes for it...
Sorry for the messy bed! I've been repacking and going through some boxes.
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I also don't get the long ties that are on it. They are the long strands you see going down the dress. They attach at the neck area and have white poof balls at the end. Are they to tie into a bow or what?
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Personally, I think the maroon softens the white. Black would look too harsh.
You could get it tailored and have the ties removed.
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it's so pretty and wintery ohmigosh.
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Also, I'd go with white shoes and black stockings. It doesn't matter that it's not the main colour of the dress. A white headbow would look nice, as would white lace gloves.
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Alright, thanks for the help. :)
I'm still trying to decide if I want to keep it since the waist is so big on me.
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Like I said, you can get it tailored.
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I know. I don't know anyone in the area for that though so I'm going to talk to my mom about doing it when I see her next since she's a lot better at sewing than I am. If not, I'm going to probably consider getting a more fitted one. I have been looking into getting a mint Melty Chocolate Replica (I can't afford the original AP design since it goes for about $400 from what I have seen) or a Vampire Requiem.
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what are the measurements on the dress you have now?
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I know. I don't know anyone in the area for that though so I'm going to talk to my mom about doing it when I see her next since she's a lot better at sewing than I am. If not, I'm going to probably consider getting a more fitted one. I have been looking into getting a mint Melty Chocolate Replica (I can't afford the original AP design since it goes for about $400 from what I have seen) or a Vampire Requiem.
VR's just as expensive as Melty Chocolate IIRC and the replicas aren't very good.
Personally, I'd go with a less-popular brand print from egl-comm-sales. I snagged a MmM JSK on there for $178 a few months ago. :3
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I've been scouting that site every day even though I don't really have money. But it's hard to find dresses on there my size. I'm a 34 bust and most are bigger than me and I don't want to get something baggy cause those just don't look good. :/
Sora - I'll check. Bust and Waist or length, too?
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Uh, really? I find it hard to find stuff that fits by 36" bust.
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It really depends on the brand and dress. I'm a 34 bust and I don't have problems fitting into brand. Bodyline is hit or miss, and I've never bought a replica so I dunno how they fit. I make/made a lot of my Lolita, especially skirts, because I'm cheap. lol.
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Just putting it out there, I'm a 42" bust and I fit into Innocent World dresses with a little bit of room to spare in the bust. My options are limited by what they have in 'long' though.
I am trying to find things to wear besides shoulder scarves when I coord things, though. I have to cover my shoulders because I honestly have shoulders the size of a 6'6" ex-baseball player, so I'm looking at capelets and the like. I have a black fur one, but it's got a funny-shaped neck and doesn't like to stay tied around my shoulders. Tea shawls and Celtic cloak pins or thick coats are my next option here, I'm thinking. Anyone have any suggestions?
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I have a capelet pattern with a hood. I may be able to scan it or something. Or meet you on campus and let you borrow it to copy it. I usually just wear cardigans. XP
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i am haveing an issue finding a lolita style wig that is brown that isent to curly that long with two pigtail clips for it as well.
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Yes, I need an 86cm bust and the ones I see are always around 90cm.
Mind you, I don't look through every post in a day so obviously I can easily miss some.
I will admit I find a few that will fit but then they don't fit my waist (I'm 27in/69cm) or they don't really look like something I would want to wear. I am very iffy on getting something with carousel horses or unicorns on it because I don't know how that would look.
If any of you guys find an 86/69 dress or something very close in size I would gladly look at it. It just seems a lot of dresses with my chest are around 80cm in the waist, too. :/
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Are you sure you're looking at the right measurements? Because a lot of sellers will list the max measurements, but if the garment has corset lacing/shirring and waist ties then it can go smaller.
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Yeah, a lot of JSKs and OPs are 87/68 at their regular measurements. You should want to have an outfit that has a little bit of room, honestly. If 1cm is that much of a problem you can wear a push-up?
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If you cant find a dress in your size, most places have a custom order offer. I know that with fan plus friend, its only 5 dollars more to order a custom size.
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Bunny - You may be right. :/ I feel stupid now
Lt - 1cm isn't that big of a deal to me but a push-up isn't really an option. At 34D a pushup bra normally makes me look huge.
Tala - They have a very nice blouse I want to get on there that I have been really looking at getting. :P
As soon as I move and get set up with a job I'm really thinking about getting it. My bf even likes one of their jackets (for guys obviously) and I might get him it for x-mas.
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Yay! I love that store lol im hoping to pet some dresses from there one day
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Did you ever figure out what to do with that dress?
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Okay, so I'm only halfway through reading the thread, and I learned a lot, thank you all for posting such amazing tips!
I'm looking to get into Lolita fashion, and I have some questions...
Are magazines, or mooks, like Goth Loli, Gothic Lolita Bible, and Kera good places to look for inspiration? I know these reflect Japanese fashion trends, and I'm not sure how the trends look here yet. I also noticed the magazines have styles that aren't strictly lolita, aristocrat, or one of the other categories. (So many corsets in ) I like Goth Loli, because it comes with patterns, but I don't want to spend two months making a dress, only to not fit in at all...
Has anyone heard anything, good or bad, about Clobbaonline? I like the list of brand names and items, but don't want to end up ordering from a site like Milanoo, since I read that horror story linked earlier in this thread. I've already bookmarked Annahouse and Bodyline. I also think buying something while I figure out how the blouses and skirts work is a good idea...
What are some coordinates you would recommend? I got that blue and white is out, and that black and white is considered Sweet Loli, I think?
Are there any meet-ups happening before Sakura-Con? I read earlier in the thread, there is a chocolate event sometime this month. Has that passed, or is anyone going to that? How many of you will be there (at Sakura-Con)? I'm kind of nervous driving up to Seattle for a lolita event and not knowing anyone. I am very intimidated about wearing this style in an environment where I don't know anyone...
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Okay, so I'm only halfway through reading the thread, and I learned a lot, thank you all for posting such amazing tips!
I'm looking to get into Lolita fashion, and I have some questions...
Are magazines, or mooks, like Goth Loli, Gothic Lolita Bible, and Kera good places to look for inspiration? I know these reflect Japanese fashion trends, and I'm not sure how the trends look here yet. I also noticed the magazines have styles that aren't strictly lolita, aristocrat, or one of the other categories. (So many corsets in ) I like Goth Loli, because it comes with patterns, but I don't want to spend two months making a dress, only to not fit in at all...
Has anyone heard anything, good or bad, about Clobbaonline? I like the list of brand names and items, but don't want to end up ordering from a site like Milanoo, since I read that horror story linked earlier in this thread. I've already bookmarked Annahouse and Bodyline. I also think buying something while I figure out how the blouses and skirts work is a good idea...
What are some coordinates you would recommend? I got that blue and white is out, and that black and white is considered Sweet Loli, I think?
Are there any meet-ups happening before Sakura-Con? I read earlier in the thread, there is a chocolate event sometime this month. Has that passed, or is anyone going to that? How many of you will be there (at Sakura-Con)? I'm kind of nervous driving up to Seattle for a lolita event and not knowing anyone. I am very intimidated about wearing this style in an environment where I don't know anyone...
Mana From MALICE MIZER is the best to look at gothic lolita i have a gothic lolita myself that is in my sales if you want to see that for an example as well. heres a pic of mana as well mana was my insperation bigg time ^^ and no worries i m not going to sakura this year but the lolita community is very friendly they helped me with finding the right style for me as well ^^
Mana is in the pick below
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Okay, so I'm only halfway through reading the thread, and I learned a lot, thank you all for posting such amazing tips!
I'm looking to get into Lolita fashion, and I have some questions...
Are magazines, or mooks, like Goth Loli, Gothic Lolita Bible, and Kera good places to look for inspiration? I know these reflect Japanese fashion trends, and I'm not sure how the trends look here yet. I also noticed the magazines have styles that aren't strictly lolita, aristocrat, or one of the other categories. (So many corsets in ) I like Goth Loli, because it comes with patterns, but I don't want to spend two months making a dress, only to not fit in at all...
Has anyone heard anything, good or bad, about Clobbaonline? I like the list of brand names and items, but don't want to end up ordering from a site like Milanoo, since I read that horror story linked earlier in this thread. I've already bookmarked Annahouse and Bodyline. I also think buying something while I figure out how the blouses and skirts work is a good idea...
What are some coordinates you would recommend? I got that blue and white is out, and that black and white is considered Sweet Loli, I think?
Are there any meet-ups happening before Sakura-Con? I read earlier in the thread, there is a chocolate event sometime this month. Has that passed, or is anyone going to that? How many of you will be there (at Sakura-Con)? I'm kind of nervous driving up to Seattle for a lolita event and not knowing anyone. I am very intimidated about wearing this style in an environment where I don't know anyone...
I think that mooks are a great source of inspiration, but I would try to do simple coords first, then expand into other styles/being creative with coordination. I've heard pretty good things about Clobba, but they're really just a shopping service.
As for colors, blue and white (like royal blue) is pretty popular right now among Gothic Lolis. Black and white exclusively is considered "Old school" or "old school gothic" because that's what everyone was doing back when Lolita was first popularized in the west, but now it's associated with being "ita" and discouraged unless you know what you're doing.
As for colors for YOU, I don't know because I'm not sure what style you like best. I would look at bodyline and pick out a piece you like, in whatever color, and then coordinate around that piece.
The chocolate fest meetup was a couple weeks ago, yes. ;_; For Sakuracon some people are trying to plan a tea party event, but it's not for sure yet. Usually someone puts on a lolita fashion show as well. When you go to a meetup for the first time it's best to just be outgoing, be yourself, talk, and get to know people, because that's how you'll get to know the other people involved and be more comfortable. :D
A couple of links for you~
http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/ Daily Lolita. Lolitas post their coords here~ Great inspiration place.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/249963740322/ "Portland Lolita Tea and Cake Society" aka the Oregon Lolita Facebook group. We plan events through here and talk about stuff!
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I think that mooks are a great source of inspiration, but I would try to do simple coords first, then expand into other styles/being creative with coordination. I've heard pretty good things about Clobba, but they're really just a shopping service.
So there wouldn't be anything wrong with making a pattern from one of the mooks, so long as I don't do any strange coordinates? Granted it turns out right...
As for colors for YOU, I don't know because I'm not sure what style you like best. I would look at bodyline and pick out a piece you like, in whatever color, and then coordinate around that piece.
Thanks! I will definitely look at Bodyline again.
A couple of links for you~
http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/ Daily Lolita. Lolitas post their coords here~ Great inspiration place.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/249963740322/ "Portland Lolita Tea and Cake Society" aka the Oregon Lolita Facebook group. We plan events through here and talk about stuff!
Thank you! I'd found both the Oregon and Washington LJ communities, but hadn't seen the facebook group yet.
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I think that mooks are a great source of inspiration, but I would try to do simple coords first, then expand into other styles/being creative with coordination. I've heard pretty good things about Clobba, but they're really just a shopping service.
So there wouldn't be anything wrong with making a pattern from one of the mooks, so long as I don't do any strange coordinates? Granted it turns out right...
As for colors for YOU, I don't know because I'm not sure what style you like best. I would look at bodyline and pick out a piece you like, in whatever color, and then coordinate around that piece.
Thanks! I will definitely look at Bodyline again.
A couple of links for you~
http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/ Daily Lolita. Lolitas post their coords here~ Great inspiration place.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/249963740322/ "Portland Lolita Tea and Cake Society" aka the Oregon Lolita Facebook group. We plan events through here and talk about stuff!
Thank you! I'd found both the Oregon and Washington LJ communities, but hadn't seen the facebook group yet.
The only thing to be wary about when using mook patterns would be fit, because the patterns are made for tiny Japanese girls, so always make a mock up with cheap fabric before going all out. But yeah, I would master basics first, then when you're confident expand your style and start experimenting. :)
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I think that mooks are a great source of inspiration, but I would try to do simple coords first, then expand into other styles/being creative with coordination. I've heard pretty good things about Clobba, but they're really just a shopping service.
So there wouldn't be anything wrong with making a pattern from one of the mooks, so long as I don't do any strange coordinates? Granted it turns out right...
As for colors for YOU, I don't know because I'm not sure what style you like best. I would look at bodyline and pick out a piece you like, in whatever color, and then coordinate around that piece.
Thanks! I will definitely look at Bodyline again.
A couple of links for you~
http://daily-lolita.livejournal.com/ Daily Lolita. Lolitas post their coords here~ Great inspiration place.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/249963740322/ "Portland Lolita Tea and Cake Society" aka the Oregon Lolita Facebook group. We plan events through here and talk about stuff!
Thank you! I'd found both the Oregon and Washington LJ communities, but hadn't seen the facebook group yet.
The only thing to be wary about when using mook patterns would be fit, because the patterns are made for tiny Japanese girls, so always make a mock up with cheap fabric before going all out. But yeah, I would master basics first, then when you're confident expand your style and start experimenting. :)
Thanks for the suggestion! I'm taking the mooks over to a friend's of mine on Tuesday to help me alter the patterns, and get general tips on how to do some cotton mock-ups, so I don't ruin my pretty fabric when I don't know what I'm doing.
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iz made a headdress thingy and got a new wig I found it was alot easer then it looked to make one
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i have a few things to ask.
Wering cat ears is said to make lolita look more like a costume, but some lolita were wigs. Wigs make it look more cosplay like. wo why is this?
I am seeing Kuro lolita and gothic, but i am having a hard time figuring out what the differance is. Help please?
thank you.
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Cat ears are associated with cosplay mostly. While lolitas who wear wigs wear them to add to the outfit.
Kuro is all black, while Gothic can be black and white. There are other components that are included, but I'll let others do that.
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Cat ears are associated with cosplay mostly. While lolitas who wear wigs wear them to add to the outfit.
Kuro is all black, while Gothic can be black and white. There are other components that are included, but I'll let others do that.
But cat ears could do the same thing. I meen, I have to basicly were cat ears like every day because of who i am. And I think the wig makes it look more cosplay.
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Cat ears are really not considered Lolita. Even when brands put out cat ears most Lolitas won't wear them unless it's meant to be part of a theme (this goes for other animal ears--bunny, bear--as well). TBH it looks tacky and almost never goes with the general aesthetic theme of Lolita.
As for wigs, again, you can't just throw on any wig. It needs to add to the aesthetic appeal of Lolita: innocent, elegant, etc. I generally don't wear wigs when I wear Lolita. I think I've maybe done it four times over the last three years that I've been wearing the style. I don't wear them simply because they're uncomfortable for a long period of time. A lot of Lolitas also wear wigs because their normal hair does not match the style because their normal fashion does not match the hairstyles associated with Lolita (it's a loop, did you notice?).
And that's all I really have to say about that.
EGL community hair/wig tag entrees: http://egl.livejournal.com/tag/beauty%3A%20hair%2Fwigs
More discussion and opinions of cat ears in Lolita: http://www.google.com/cse?cx=003815590009091905317%3Avm_kbkrxpvy&q=cat+ears&sa=Search+EGL#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=cat%20ears&gsc.page=1
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Honestly, most lolitas will tell you that cat ears are a no no for lolita because it makes it look like cosplay rather than a style.
In my opinion though, if you do it right, you can wear cat ears, bunny ears, and even mouse ears, just as long as the outfit is well put together and the ears complete the outfit. If you're like me and want to cosplay lolita, which has been a problem topic here on this thread, I would suggest that you take the cosplay and make a lolita version, rather than take say, a kuro outfit and make it "cosplay" by adding ears. I have a sweet lolita minnie mouse cosplay that sadly didn't make it to con last year because I had only finished the skirt by day one, but its minnie mouse IN sweet lolita, not sweet lolita with minnie mouse extras.
If you want to get into the actual fashion, and wear it outside of cons, I would say not to ear the cat ears all the time. But I have seen some very beautiful and well constructed lolita cosplays with cat ears, so I don't think it would really be a bad thing.
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Okay, but what if the person were cat ears, not as a cosplay or anything anime related but because they are a furry or something along thoughs lines.
I totally get the cat ear thing though.
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Okay, but what if the person were cat ears, not as a cosplay or anything anime related but because they are a furry or something along thoughs lines.
I totally get the cat ear thing though.
If someone wore cat ears, no matter the reason, they would probably be looked down upon or like they didn't know what the fashion was really about.
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Okay, but what if the person were cat ears, not as a cosplay or anything anime related but because they are a furry or something along thoughs lines.
I totally get the cat ear thing though.
If someone wore cat ears, no matter the reason, they would probably be looked down upon or like they didn't know what the fashion was really about.
It shouldn't matter whether or not they would look down upon her for wearing them, she's a furry. That means she can just incorperate(sp?) Her ears and tails into her lolita style. You've said so yourself, lolita is a fashion. Fashion is about expressing who you are through your style and clothes. There isn't a set book of rules for fashion. This is why there are tons of different sub-styles of lolita.
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Okay, but what if the person were cat ears, not as a cosplay or anything anime related but because they are a furry or something along thoughs lines.
I totally get the cat ear thing though.
If someone wore cat ears, no matter the reason, they would probably be looked down upon or like they didn't know what the fashion was really about.
It shouldn't matter whether or not they would look down upon her for wearing them, she's a furry. That means she can just incorperate(sp?) Her ears and tails into her lolita style. You've said so yourself, lolita is a fashion. Fashion is about expressing who you are through your style and clothes. There isn't a set book of rules for fashion. This is why there are tons of different sub-styles of lolita.
That may be true, but all of the Lolitas I know would not approve of cat ears. Lolita is about expressing yourself, but within the aesthetic style of the fashion, which cat ears are not a part of.
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i have a few things to ask.
Wering cat ears is said to make lolita look more like a costume, but some lolita were wigs. Wigs make it look more cosplay like. wo why is this?
I am seeing Kuro lolita and gothic, but i am having a hard time figuring out what the differance is. Help please?
thank you.
I will say this Lolita is lolita it is a fashion to most now and days or even called cosplay to normal people no matter what you try to tell them even if there is a bible on lolita most see past it becuse it is who the person is and the charater they are playing. I know furried and hybrids who wear their tail and ears even their whole fur suit in lolita. to most girls on this fourm Are wrong and seem not to understand what a fashion is, You tell them that it is an expression if they are a furrie as a person then i see no issue of them being a furrie and wearing lolita. i see that everything can be consider a costume even lolita. SO my little lolita friends as someone who been around and wearing lolita for 10 years, wear your cat ears wear a fur suit and wear lolita, I say lolita is a way to create your own fashion. your own speshial look. As most lolita i know said the same thing to me. Its all about showing off who you are as a person NOT JUST THE FASHION.
Personally i will say if you want to wear them go for it and rock it out with your outfit and be cute. if others tell your wrong you tell them stright out that just becuse there is a bible for it jsut becuse its a fashion dosent mean you can not creat your own look. with your self or your charater. YOu tell them that you are a furrie and your are a hybrid and if you want to wear your animal ears or furrsuit you ll do it and you ll do it proude becuse lolita is about expressing who you are.
and if anyone tells me I am wrong you can talk to my friends who are in to lolita and tell them they are wrong.
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Okay, but what if the person were cat ears, not as a cosplay or anything anime related but because they are a furry or something along thoughs lines.
I totally get the cat ear thing though.
If someone wore cat ears, no matter the reason, they would probably be looked down upon or like they didn't know what the fashion was really about.
It shouldn't matter whether or not they would look down upon her for wearing them, she's a furry. That means she can just incorperate(sp?) Her ears and tails into her lolita style. You've said so yourself, lolita is a fashion. Fashion is about expressing who you are through your style and clothes. There isn't a set book of rules for fashion. This is why there are tons of different sub-styles of lolita.
That may be true, but all of the Lolitas I know would not approve of cat ears. Lolita is about expressing yourself, but within the aesthetic style of the fashion, which cat ears are not a part of.
So cat ears are frowned upon, but bubblegum pink hair isn't?
And "expressing yourself within the aesthetic style of the fashion" is not expressing yourself at all. Expressing yourself has no boundries.
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Holly has been a member of the social aspect of lolita for a long time, as have I. She's not trying to say "YOU'RE WRONG AND NO ONE CAN WEAR CAT EARS EVER", she's pointing out that the majority of lolitas look down upon girls who include cat ears and other such things in their outfits.
The online lolita community can be harsh, we're just trying to keep you from being hurt or harassed.
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Exactly as Katie said. Go ahead and wear your cat ears, but if someone posts a picture of you on loli-secrets degrading your choice, don't be surprised.
Also, Tala, I don't know why bubblegum pink wigs aren't looked down upon. They just aren't. I don't choose to wear these wigs with my Lolita because I like how natural hair colors look with it better (also wigs are itchy). The wig phenomenon is quite new to Lolita anyway, probably only about two years old, and really took off with the development of the OTT sweet substyle, which some Lolitas find a bit ridiculous anyway.
Also, we wouldn't have fashion styles if each didn't have it's own aesthetic appeal. We would all just be wearing random stuff.
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The thing about cat ears is you can't just wear them to wear cat ears. The same with wigs.
Long post ahead, ho.
Let's just take Lolita out of the equation for a minute and just talk about fashion. Fashion is about looking good, flattering and, to a point, expressing yourself. To be well-dressed, you have to understand what looks good and what doesn't. Colors have to NOT clash, lines have to work, and and outfit has to seem connected. NEVER just throw on something (a wig, jewelry, cat ears, etc) just to have it on. A coord has to be well-thought out and items have to work with other items. There are two questions I ask myself before I add any item to an outfit: Does the item flatter me? Does the item look good with the other pieces?
Now back to Lolita. You can ruin a coord by tossing on a wig that just doesn't look good. Like I said before, every item you wear has to combine with the other items to create a pleasing effect. Wigs CAN be seen as "cosplay-ish" or they can work well with an outfit. Let's take the two questions from before and use them to see if a wig is gonna work with an outfit.
Example 1 (terrible wig choice):
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi164.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu27%2Fsakura-oki%2F453666c5-1.jpg&hash=eb0a44031e0fc0d66948f53ae8208413a0826c63)
Does this wig flatter her? No. The cut just doesn't look good on her, and the color is awful with her skin tone.
Does this wig look good with the rest of the pieces? No. It has nothing in common. This wig looks like it was just thrown on, and makes the whole outfit look awful.
Example 2 (slightly better):
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftempestpaige.jalbum.net%2FMy-Lolita-Fashion-Coordinates%2Fslides%2FDSCF3060.jpg&hash=2afa81a872b33afe5255e0cdeb8844c9be67a12f)
Referring to the girl on the left.
Does this wig flatter her? No, no it doesn't. the super pale, shiny colors look awful with her skin tone, and she appears to be disappearing into the endless volume. This should already be enough to nix it on the outfit.
Does this wig look good with the other pieces? For the most part. While the colors do technically match, it is much brighter and shinier and it draws all the attention to itself with its mass.
Example 3 (here we go):
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash3%2F536454_10150749893732720_701192719_9293651_2019844851_n.jpg&hash=3e05c34c0946524176025e82f8290fde4ffd5998)
The girl on the left.
Does the wig flatter her? Yes. It works great with her skin tone, it's not too shiny, and the cut does nothing bad for her.
Does the wig look good with the outfit? Yes it does. Colors work, it doesn't take attention away, the curls wrap around the hat cutely and it's just generally good.
This outfit also has animal ears. Well-thought-out ears are fine.
An example of bad ears in lolita:
everything else seriously
JUST MAKE IT MATCH OR DON'T WEAR THEM jesus christ this isn't that hard
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I personally don't even like the crazy-colored wigs or animal-eared hats (that may have something to do with my being a Classic/Elegant Gothic Lolita), but if they're incorporated into an outfit and the outfit works then by all means use it. If you want to wear a pastel green and chocolate brown wig with your mint Chess Chocolate dress, go right on ahead and do it. It looks tacky, but it matches the color scheme and it's probably a much more 'lolita' hairstyle than what most folk already have.
HOWEVER.
Animal ears will make your outfit look like a costume. A tail will make your outfit look like a costume. It doesn't matter what you happen to be wearing at the time, random animal bits stuck to you will even make Baby the Stars Shine Bright and Alice and the Pirates look like a costume. I've seen it happen, and it ain't pretty. You wanna wear your ears because they're "~part of who you are on the inside~" then go for it, I'm not gonna stop you. There's no guarantee that other lolitas won't laugh at you and your haphazard, seemingly slapdash accessorizing, though.
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The wig phenomenon is quite new to Lolita anyway, probably only about two years old, and really took off with the development of the OTT sweet substyle,
well, to be honest, if bright wigs (some really tacky) can be added, I don see what animal ears can't. But personaly, if people were these crazy colored wigs with lolita it looks more cosplay like then cat ears. that confuses me.
wigs= looks like your not wearing cosplay
cat ears (not with a tail= looks like your cosplaying.
but at the sime time, I DO understand why it can be "dubbed" as looking cosplay like.
all though fashion is about expressing your self. There doesn't half to be a strick line on lolita. that would make lolita boring. or any style boring.
Lolita started as just one fashion right? Clasic Lolita. But how did we get all these stylies? SOME ONE had to jump out of the line to get the other styles, like Ero, Wa, Country, punk ect....
(some times I don't understand why there is Ero lolita because "if it isn't modist, it isn't lolita" and ero doesn't seem all to modist) ANY WAY thats a differant topic.
my point being, wigs are seemed very cosplay like. so some one had to add them into every day lolita. So why are cat ears so fround apon, when (personaly) they look less cosplay like then bright wigs.
just my thoughs on this......
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Well, maybe you can start the Furry Lolita fashion! I say go ahead and do it! Just don't be surprised if people look down on you and say crap about it, at least to start with. I do think people need to lighten up on what they say.
I personally love doing Kodona and Steampunk Lolita, and I do it for a cheap price because I can't afford the official stuff. That would be frowned upon most and I don't see why. I try to follow the "rules" of the fashion with adding my own personal components.
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Well, maybe you can start the Furry Lolita fashion!
XD not sure why every one thinks I want to were cat ears with my lolita or furry lolita, ect... I just wanted to bring this up. To really get every one's veiws on it. Yes, I do consider my self a "hybrid" I would only were cat ears in my house.
Lucky for me, I am that kind of person who would care what people say or think of me even if I was to were cat ears in public with lolita.
But this was very intresting to see every ones thoughts on the fashion.
Edit: on a differant note, has any one bought dresses from these sites? What do you all think of them?
Fanplusfriend.com
www.ropalolita.com
and advice on making own lolita outfits. Dresses/skirts/ect....
I also wan't opions on this pattern idea I came up with. (This is only a rough draft of it.)
I made two differant colors opions because I can't choose what one I like best.(supost to be in sweet inspired)
(not safe for people who are scared of Tarantulas)
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/DarkLinkfanatic/1andtwo.png (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff236/DarkLinkfanatic/1andtwo.png)
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Personally, the purple looks better with the spiders. The green ones just look like blobs.
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Is anyone considering entering a Lolita skit in the Cosplay competition? It would be awesome to have a skit like that. :)
From the rules:
"While we appreciate costumes from other genres, Kumoricon's Cosplay contest will be limited to those of Japanese origin including: Japanese anime, Japanese manga, J-rock, J-pop, Lolita, Japanese live-action cinema or TV series, Japanese religious or cultural garb, Japanese-origin video games or Japanese school or state uniforms. If your costume originates from any other country, it does not qualify. (Please feel free to enter non-qualifying costumes in the Hall Cosplay Contest)."
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Is anyone considering entering a Lolita skit in the Cosplay competition? It would be awesome to have a skit like that. :)
From the rules:
"While we appreciate costumes from other genres, Kumoricon's Cosplay contest will be limited to those of Japanese origin including: Japanese anime, Japanese manga, J-rock, J-pop, Lolita, Japanese live-action cinema or TV series, Japanese religious or cultural garb, Japanese-origin video games or Japanese school or state uniforms. If your costume originates from any other country, it does not qualify. (Please feel free to enter non-qualifying costumes in the Hall Cosplay Contest)."
It would be difficult to do a skit based around lolita because it's like getting up there in normal clothes for a lot of us.
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^ From what I've overheard more than a few times in these threads, that makes a lot of sense.
The only thing that even comes to mind would be a skit about how the different groups of Lolitas interact with each other, or with various types of cosplayers. Would it be possible to come up with something that's entertaining without coming across as poking fun, though? :-\
(Apologies for the derail, btw.)
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^ From what I've overheard more than a few times in these threads, that makes a lot of sense.
The only thing that even comes to mind would be a skit about how the different groups of Lolitas interact with each other, or with various types of cosplayers. Would it be possible to come up with something that's entertaining without coming across as poking fun, though? :-\
(Apologies for the derail, btw.)
I doubt it.
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I'm already going to be in the costume contest with LtCommanderRichie, so we wouldn't be able to be part of it anyway. I'm in the same boat as Katie, I don't see Lolita as a costume, so I wouldn't want to be in a costume contest wearing it.
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^ From what I've overheard more than a few times in these threads, that makes a lot of sense.
The only thing that even comes to mind would be a skit about how the different groups of Lolitas interact with each other, or with various types of cosplayers. Would it be possible to come up with something that's entertaining without coming across as poking fun, though? :-\
(Apologies for the derail, btw.)
Well I could see some comedy based around lolita no problem, the only thing is that so many of the jokes are so... They're like inside jokes, you know? Other lolitas will get them but not really people outside of the "culture" so to speak.
I know there are some funny videos online based around lolita, since they have a worldwide reach people get them and think they're funny. But an audience of mostly non-lolitas wouldn't probably be entertained.
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Like the vid "Sh*t Lolitas Say"
If Kumo really wants to involve the Lolita community, maybe host a Fashion Show?
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^ agrees to this
Showing off the many styles of lolita in a big fashion show will be alot better and alittle more fun to show off your dress made and non made and bring the lolita culture to those who want to get into it.
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^ agrees to this
Showing off the many styles of lolita in a big fashion show will be alot better and alittle more fun to show off your dress made and non made and bring the lolita culture to those who want to get into it.
The Kumoricon Fashion Show will be on MONDAY (not sure of time... but Jaki OK'd it).
I called it that because I wanted to be sure that Lolitas understood that it's not a cosplay fashion show (though cosplayers / costumes are welcome, too), but rather a fashion show to showcase all of the fashions that are worn at Kumoricon. :) I hope to see a bunch of you ladies there.
Each participant will have to write up a few sentences about their outfit for the MC to read, including the model's name & the name of the designer (I know some of you create your own outfits and others purchase them from various vendors). The model will walk to center stage, pose, then walk off.
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just talked to some one on the forums here who said "lolita is considered cosplay, especially in Japan".
Pfffff
no.
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Ashally a friend i have in japan he says its a street fashion but even the adults consider it cosplay or costumes. depending on the person. i Tell my mother it is a fashion but to her its still just a costume/cosplay.
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Ashally a friend i have in japan he says its a street fashion but even the adults consider it cosplay or costumes. depending on the person. i Tell my mother it is a fashion but to her its still just a costume/cosplay.
I know, but lolita was made to be a fashion. Not a cosplay. But I could see why. Its just fustrating when people think that wering cat ears with lolita make it lolita and on top of that then calling lolita a cosplay. When its ment to be a fashion.
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Ashally a friend i have in japan he says its a street fashion but even the adults consider it cosplay or costumes. depending on the person. i Tell my mother it is a fashion but to her its still just a costume/cosplay.
I know, but lolita was made to be a fashion. Not a cosplay. But I could see why. Its just fustrating when people think that wering cat ears with lolita make it lolita and on top of that then calling lolita a cosplay. When its ment to be a fashion.
Ashally the reason why there is cosplay lolita is becuse there are some cosplays that look like lolita like eternal Santana. the main charaters dress is very lolita/costume like. and wearing anime ears with lolita can be okay depending of the lolita like Alice in wonderland or the mini mouse lolita I saw awhile back. I do understand why alot of girls who get uptight about lolita. but its style is used in many anime and games. so thats why there is a cosplay lolita type. but I do some what agree some cat ears are not apporet but if the person wants to wear them dont make fun of them or stop them for it. because its their expression of the fashion.
(sorry for long post with bad spelling I am on my ipod and spell check has been weird and its hard to push stuff lol)
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Ashally a friend i have in japan he says its a street fashion but even the adults consider it cosplay or costumes. depending on the person. i Tell my mother it is a fashion but to her its still just a costume/cosplay.
I know, but lolita was made to be a fashion. Not a cosplay. But I could see why. Its just fustrating when people think that wering cat ears with lolita make it lolita and on top of that then calling lolita a cosplay. When its ment to be a fashion.
I know there is "cosplay" lolita. But it really isn't like, legit lolita. But I agree, cat ears can look good if done right.
But also, punk could be considered. I meen, there are anime/game characters that dress that way. The character in said game/anime is wearing the fashion. And when people cosplay it, they are cosplaying lolita.
Just because lolita is in said game.anime doesn't meen all lolita is cosplay.
Ashally the reason why there is cosplay lolita is becuse there are some cosplays that look like lolita like eternal Santana. the main charaters dress is very lolita/costume like. and wearing anime ears with lolita can be okay depending of the lolita like Alice in wonderland or the mini mouse lolita I saw awhile back. I do understand why alot of girls who get uptight about lolita. but its style is used in many anime and games. so thats why there is a cosplay lolita type. but I do some what agree some cat ears are not apporet but if the person wants to wear them dont make fun of them or stop them for it. because its their expression of the fashion.
(sorry for long post with bad spelling I am on my ipod and spell check has been weird and its hard to push stuff lol)
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Yeah, my point of view is I know and respect Lolita as a fashion, but I wear is so rarely that it's more of a costume for me...
If I could get away with it, I'd wear more of this stuff more often...
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Ashally a friend i have in japan he says its a street fashion but even the adults consider it cosplay or costumes. depending on the person. i Tell my mother it is a fashion but to her its still just a costume/cosplay.
I know, but lolita was made to be a fashion. Not a cosplay. But I could see why. Its just fustrating when people think that wering cat ears with lolita make it lolita and on top of that then calling lolita a cosplay. When its ment to be a fashion.
I know there is "cosplay" lolita. But it really isn't like, legit lolita. But I agree, cat ears can look good if done right.
But also, punk could be considered. I meen, there are anime/game characters that dress that way. The character in said game/anime is wearing the fashion. And when people cosplay it, they are cosplaying lolita.
Just because lolita is in said game.anime doesn't meen all lolita is cosplay.
Ashally the reason why there is cosplay lolita is becuse there are some cosplays that look like lolita like eternal Santana. the main charaters dress is very lolita/costume like. and wearing anime ears with lolita can be okay depending of the lolita like Alice in wonderland or the mini mouse lolita I saw awhile back. I do understand why alot of girls who get uptight about lolita. but its style is used in many anime and games. so thats why there is a cosplay lolita type. but I do some what agree some cat ears are not apporet but if the person wants to wear them dont make fun of them or stop them for it. because its their expression of the fashion.
(sorry for long post with bad spelling I am on my ipod and spell check has been weird and its hard to push stuff lol)
Thank you for correcting the spelling for me I was going to do it today while I was on my main computer.
But yes not everyone will see lolita as a fashion no matter what country you are in. or who you are there is always people who will see it as a costume.
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Ashally a friend i have in japan he says its a street fashion but even the adults consider it cosplay or costumes. depending on the person. i Tell my mother it is a fashion but to her its still just a costume/cosplay.
I know, but lolita was made to be a fashion. Not a cosplay. But I could see why. Its just fustrating when people think that wering cat ears with lolita make it lolita and on top of that then calling lolita a cosplay. When its ment to be a fashion.
I know there is "cosplay" lolita. But it really isn't like, legit lolita. But I agree, cat ears can look good if done right.
But also, punk could be considered. I meen, there are anime/game characters that dress that way. The character in said game/anime is wearing the fashion. And when people cosplay it, they are cosplaying lolita.
Just because lolita is in said game.anime doesn't meen all lolita is cosplay.
Ashally the reason why there is cosplay lolita is becuse there are some cosplays that look like lolita like eternal Santana. the main charaters dress is very lolita/costume like. and wearing anime ears with lolita can be okay depending of the lolita like Alice in wonderland or the mini mouse lolita I saw awhile back. I do understand why alot of girls who get uptight about lolita. but its style is used in many anime and games. so thats why there is a cosplay lolita type. but I do some what agree some cat ears are not apporet but if the person wants to wear them dont make fun of them or stop them for it. because its their expression of the fashion.
(sorry for long post with bad spelling I am on my ipod and spell check has been weird and its hard to push stuff lol)
Thank you for correcting the spelling for me I was going to do it today while I was on my main computer.
But yes not everyone will see lolita as a fashion no matter what country you are in. or who you are there is always people who will see it as a costume.
I know, its just really fustrating when some people wont see it as a fashion. ;w;
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yeah but its how life is. whats normal to those who wear lolita is not normal to those who don't
and some times its reversed I know a girl who wears lolita all the time and to her normal clothing is weird
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yeah but its how life is. whats normal to those who wear lolita is not normal to those who don't
and some times its reversed I know a girl who wears lolita all the time and to her normal clothing is weird
Sorta like how i am. I think short shorts are weird. (unless used under a skirt of dress)
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I had a question about which day people were planning on Dressing up in Lolita?
Maybe we could all have a day to wear it and have a huge group on Lolitas Walking about? I'm not sure if this was mentioned before but it'd be cool?
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There's usually a lolita meetup during the con. Last year it was on Day 0 for lunch, but in the past it's been a dinner meet.
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I like day 0 because then I don't have to change a bunch (kumo this year will have korra and that is gonna be a bitch to put on and take off)
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tbh I have so many cosplays this year that I don't think I'll bring Lolita to con. XP
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I might bring my lolita or Kodona for Day 0, but I'm not sure...
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I'd bring the rori for a meetup.
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But I have to miss so many meetups this summer, we need a meetup at the con ;-;
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I never been to a lolita meet-up. it would be nice if we had one on day 0
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I think the best night to have it would be either night of Day 0 or night of Day 1 for dinner. If it's Day 0 I'll be in Lolita, if it's Day 1 I'll either be in Kuranosuke or Luigi, but I'll be there.
Restaurant possibilities? Here's a bunch of resaurants in walking distance: http://goo.gl/maps/Cf6S Just hover over the red/pink dots to see which restaurant each is.
I went to Tiger's Garden (Thai restaurant) a lot last year and I love the pineapple cashew fried rice. But it's a pretty small restaurant. :/ Otherwise there's a bunch of sandwich/panini places, cafes, a couple Italian restaurants, Asian Fusion places, etc. And, no, we are not eating at Subway. >_<
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But Subway ;A;
Jk
I'm really fine with anything. I may not have a large spending buget, so I may just come to hang out.
I'd rather Day 0 and I'll have a friend joining me who'll probably be in his Kodona outfit.
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I'll be wearing brolita every day so whenever's clever works for me~
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italian italian night of day 0 is my vote
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K. Sounds like Day 0 it will be. Let's say, meet at the restaurant at 6? Which of the two Italian places?
http://www.littleitalystrattoria.com/locations.htm
http://www.cafealdente.net/index.html
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K. Sounds like Day 0 it will be. Let's say, meet at the restaurant at 6? Which of the two Italian places?
http://www.littleitalystrattoria.com/locations.htm
http://www.cafealdente.net/index.html
I wouldn't go because I wouldn't have money to go to a restaurant.
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Me either maybe a lolita picnicked would be nicer everyone brings something sandwatches maybe some cute bentos like i did with some friends awhile back :D my bento had a cute bear in it
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I think it would be really hard to bring food, at least for me, because I'll be getting to con pretty early in the day and won't be able to refrigerate anything. We've had plenty of meetups in the past at restaurants and not everyone will buy something. You don't have to buy anything to socialize. :)
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I think it would be better if we did a photoshoot in the garden thats right next to the park.
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I wouldn't be able to bring anything to a picnic as I'm coming from several hours away. Dinner is a much better option for me, and I don't mind which restaurant we go to but Italian does sound lovely.
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I think we could do a photoshoot too, but I tend to not enjoy photoshoot only meetups. I like to actually do something, like eat food.
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Anyone been to either of those restaurants?
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I think we could do a photoshoot too, but I tend to not enjoy photoshoot only meetups. I like to actually do something, like eat food.
But a lot of us don't have extra money for food. plus, photoshoots can be called "meet ups" too.
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I'll be wearing brolita every day so whenever's clever works for me~
Do you mean Kodona?
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Anyone been to either of those restaurants?
I know I've been to one of them, but it was way back the first time kcon was in Vancouver and I don't remember which one it was. >_<
I think we could do a photoshoot too, but I tend to not enjoy photoshoot only meetups. I like to actually do something, like eat food.
But a lot of us don't have extra money for food. plus, photoshoots can be called "meet ups" too.
That's fine if you don't have extra money for food, you can just hang out and socialize, no one's forcing you to buy anything. Just because photoshoots can be called meetups does not mean that I will automatically like going to these meetups. I was just expressing my opinion on photoshoot only meetups, which is that I do not enjoy them.
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No, Tofu is a dapper fellow who happens to look very dashing in a dress.
Also, if you don't have the extra money for food then you don't HAVE to go out to dinner or partake in the food if you do go out with us. I don't enjoy photoshoot-only meetups either, and putting on lots of makeup and a nice dress just to stand around in a park and take pictures seems a little silly to me since I don't consider my nice clothes to be a costume to take photos of. I would rather get gussied up and go to a restaurant, but that's just me.
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I like photoshoots becuse I personally dont want to drop food on a $200-300 dress and mess it up
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Well, you know, there's this neat thing called a napkin that was invented recently, I hear you're supposed to put it on your lap to keep food off your clothes. I'm not trying to be catty or anything but as long as you're not trying to eat soup with a fork keeping food from dropping on your clothes is pretty damn easy :\
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I like photoshoots becuse I personally dont want to drop food on a $200-300 dress and mess it up
That and its good way to get pictures of your fav outfits!
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At our lolita meetups we typically do an activity (get food, watch a movie, go ice skating, etc) and then take photos after/during. Photoshoots are cool and all but it's not the best way to meet people. Anyone can just randomly take photos.
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Anyone been to either of those restaurants?
I went to Little Italy's last kcon actually! The food was really good and if I remember not too expensive.
I think if I remember it's kinda small?
But regardless, I think the idea of meeting for dinner or lunch and then having a photoshoot either before or afterwards would be great.
I agree, photoshoots aren't really always the best place to meet people.
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Personally I'd prefer to see a photoshoot happen, then go to a restaurant to socialize. As much as it's nice to meet new people in the community, it would be really nice to kick off the weekend by getting a few pictures and not have to worry all weekend whether or not there will be any good ones. Again, that's just my personal preference, but anyone who didn't want to partake in one or the other could obviously abstain without experiencing significant loss.
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This makes sense. Then the people who are too cheap/scared to eat with us can leave and then we can go to a restaurant.
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even with a nakin some foods can go threw and destory and outfit i ve had the happen to many times .
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then don't come.
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If you guys don't mind that I'm not in lolita, I'd still like to come. My friend and I already have cosplay plans to be Soul and Death the Kid, but both wear and love the lolita fashion and would love to come and meet more of the community.
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even with a nakin some foods can go threw and destory and outfit i ve had the happen to many times .
Hun, you don't have to make excuses to not come with us.
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If you guys don't mind that I'm not in lolita, I'd still like to come. My friend and I already have cosplay plans to be Soul and Death the Kid, but both wear and love the lolita fashion and would love to come and meet more of the community.
I don't mind. :) You'd probably end up being the designated photo-takers though. lol
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even with a nakin some foods can go threw and destory and outfit i ve had the happen to many times .
Hun, you don't have to make excuses to not come with us.
really not making an excuses I m point out some things other people might find an worrie or an issue, as i said ive had food get on a dress even with nakin, its not always fun accedents happen when in a large group and food is involed but heres a better idea so both groups have fun,one group can get food and the other can have a photoshoot so those who want to eat and talk can go do that and the others can have fun and take photos. have them at diffrent time so if someone who is getting food with one group can later go take photos with the others win win
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Or just have the photoshoot before getting food as DancingTofu said so nobody has to worry about that?
Because I agree, that sounds like it would be the best plan for this. :/
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I don't own any $300+ burando (most expensive dress I have is my $80 bodyline :P) so I can't really empathize with anyone who's terribly worried about food getting on their expensive clothes, but if it's really that much of a concern, there are a lot of options:
1 ~ eat something that's not messy.
2 ~ eat gracefully and elegantly, as a lolita ought.
3 ~ change clothes while waiting for food.
4 ~ a well-applied bib and napkin combination should protect just about any outfit from just about any food.
5 ~ stay for the photoshoot, don't go to the restaurant.
Looking at the facebook poll, the notion of going to a restaurant seems to be the overwhelmingly popular choice (either just restaurant or restaurant + photoshoot - they're pretty close in votes), so I'd venture to say that the restaurant should definitely be planned on. Those who want to do a photoshoot before can do a photoshoot before, and those who want to do a photoshoot after. Personally, after a large meal I like to sit down and relax for a while, so I wouldn't partake in a photoshoot after eating. If there's an interest for a post-dinner photoshoot though, I'm sure those interested could put it together without too much issue.
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If you guys don't mind that I'm not in lolita, I'd still like to come. My friend and I already have cosplay plans to be Soul and Death the Kid, but both wear and love the lolita fashion and would love to come and meet more of the community.
I don't mind. :) You'd probably end up being the designated photo-takers though. lol
I'd be totally fine with that. I'm pretty good at shoots. I'll talk to my friend. We may end up changing into Lolita~
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If you guys don't mind that I'm not in lolita, I'd still like to come. My friend and I already have cosplay plans to be Soul and Death the Kid, but both wear and love the lolita fashion and would love to come and meet more of the community.
I don't mind. :) You'd probably end up being the designated photo-takers though. lol
I'd be totally fine with that. I'm pretty good at shoots. I'll talk to my friend. We may end up changing into Lolita~
:D Sounds like a plan.
I think a photoshoot then dinner sounds fine.
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Sorry for the double post, but I just made the facebook event. We can change it if needed. https://www.facebook.com/events/465721783457754/
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Or just have the photoshoot before getting food as DancingTofu said so nobody has to worry about that?
Because I agree, that sounds like it would be the best plan for this. :/
agree with that ^^ photoshoot will be fun
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Not to bring up the argument again, but if people are legitimately scared of getting food on their clothes I have both a fabric detergent and a bleach pen, I've used the fabric detergent one on my Angelic Pretty dress to get out a stain before. And it's a print/color known for running when wet, no less.
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This makes sense. Then the people who are too cheap/scared to eat with us can leave and then we can go to a restaurant.
Calling some one "cheap" isn't the right way to go.
A lot of us only have money for the con and money for food at subway. This doesn't make us cheap. If I had money for the restaurant. By all means, I would go. But just because I don't, doesn't make me cheap.
cheap people sell out easily. There is a difference between not having money and being cheap.
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This makes sense. Then the people who are too cheap/scared to eat with us can leave and then we can go to a restaurant.
Calling some one "cheap" isn't the right way to go.
A lot of us only have money for the con and money for food at subway. This doesn't make us cheap. If I had money for the restaurant. By all means, I would go. But just because I don't, doesn't make me cheap.
cheap people sell out easily. There is a difference between not having money and being cheap.
agree I m not scard or cheep, the i state some people have worrie that food might get on their dress, can become on issue for some, i wear Kuro lolita, so there for i got no worrie but others might wear all white dress and have that fear.
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.... calling someone cheap really is extremely rude. For all you know, someone may not have any extra money at all to spend on food at a meet up. That meet up could be the only good thing going on in their life, and if going means not eating, then its not cheap, its what they have to do. I don't have any money to spend on anything at all, including food for my house, so if I don't eat anything at a meet up that's fine. It doesn't make me cheap.
And as a side note, when hosting a meet up, you guys really should try to make sure everyone can get something to eat. Its really rude to eat in front of someone that you've invited that can't afford to eat.
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This makes sense. Then the people who are too cheap/scared to eat with us can leave and then we can go to a restaurant.
Calling some one "cheap" isn't the right way to go.
A lot of us only have money for the con and money for food at subway. This doesn't make us cheap. If I had money for the restaurant. By all means, I would go. But just because I don't, doesn't make me cheap.
cheap people sell out easily. There is a difference between not having money and being cheap.
agree I m not scard or cheep, the i state some people have worrie that food might get on their dress, can become on issue for some, i wear Kuro lolita, so there for i got no worrie but others might wear all white dress and have that fear.
You can worry about your dress all you want, hun. Don't think you have to worry about the safety of anyone else's as well. If we want to go to a restaurant and ~*risk the safety*~ of our precious burando, we're well within our rights to put our napkins in our laps and eat with all the good manners and ladylike habits we were raised to have.
I actually don't see what we're still squabbling over, if people don't want to eat with us they don't have to. They can leave after the shoot.
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Okay look here for all you guys to know and understand I'm not worried about anyone else dress alright, I can care less but I was bring something up that some people wont. personally I can careless with food or no food but I personally wont go get food becuse I dislike half of the girls who wear loltia. anyways. So back to subject. Food sounds good for you guys but not all of us just want to go our own way after taking a few photos. so hows this those who want good after or before can go get food those who dont want food but dosent want to leave after the photoshoot we can all hang out in the part. and have fun. maybe even play some childish games.
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We're not stopping you from doing anything after we leave.
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did I state anyone was stopping anyone I was stating for those who dont want to go eat we call all still hang out after the photo stood if they don't want to leave yet. so it be photoshoot, then those who want food can get food and those who just want to hang out and talk can stay were we have the photoshoot and hang out
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I'm sorry, but this argument is kinda silly you guys....seriously....just stop... ;;
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And as a side note, when hosting a meet up, you guys really should try to make sure everyone can get something to eat. Its really rude to eat in front of someone that you've invited that can't afford to eat.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This.
Just because your leaving to go to the resturant doesn't mean the meets over. That would only be half of it. And so leave people because they don't have money is also rude.
I'm sorry, but this argument is kinda silly you guys....seriously....just stop... ;;
We can't solve issues if we don't talk about them. You know this. If you wan't it to stop. Then I advise to just not get into it. And let it run its coarse. Or we will all have built up tension.
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And as a side note, when hosting a meet up, you guys really should try to make sure everyone can get something to eat. Its really rude to eat in front of someone that you've invited that can't afford to eat.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This.
Just because your leaving to go to the resturant doesn't mean the meets over. That would only be half of it. And so leave people because they don't have money is also rude.
I'm sorry, but this argument is kinda silly you guys....seriously....just stop... ;;
We can't solve issues if we don't talk about them. You know this. If you wan't it to stop. Then I advise to just not get into it. And let it run its coarse. Or we will all have built up tension.
^^ agree
so waht you guys say to a photoshoot and after those who want to get food can and those who just want to talk and hang out or do more photos can stay in the meeting place
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I am sure we could find some sorta of thing to do while we do have a photoshoot.
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agree. I will still want to hang out after the photoshoot i m not one into eating infront of people. or one who can afford it at this time
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I'm honestly confused as to how we're still squabbling over this. It's been said three or four times now by completely different people so I'm sure we're all in agreement- we take pictures, we go our separate ways. I don't see why everyone's restating it as a brand new suggestion every time they have to say something on the topic.
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some people still might want to hang out so if they do its go to dinner or hang out with those still around for while. or leave and go on with the day
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Yes. We understand. You don't need to keep saying the same thing over and over. I think people are still squabbling over this simply because it keeps getting brought up.
Also, it's not an issue. Everyone who's been to a meetup knows how they usually go. People get together, do something, then part, maybe the separate groups do other things. Since this is not an issue, it doesn't need to be talked about.
Also, the whole "cheap" thing: I think it was just a misuse of words by Richie and for you guys to attack her is mean and against forum rules. "Keep discussion friendly and civil, and keep discussion focused on the issue rather than the person. No personal attacks or speculating about another person's motives."
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...I didn't call anyone cheap, just putting that out there.
So what's everyone gonna wear? I'm thinking my Pietro Angel JSK and a more gothic look, but I might persuade myself otherwise. Though how I could possibly persuade myself to wear something other than gothic is beyond me.
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...I didn't call anyone cheap, just putting that out there.
So what's everyone gonna wear? I'm thinking my Pietro Angel JSK and a more gothic look, but I might persuade myself otherwise. Though how I could possibly persuade myself to wear something other than gothic is beyond me.
Oh sorry, it was Sora. Too many posts to remember. :P
Kayla and I were going to wear Pirate Lolita. :3 Not sure exactly what I'll wear. Either my chess skirt or my AATP Lace Print skirt.
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I'd join you in your pirateyness but when I try to Pirate Lolita it ends up Gokaiger themed.
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The only lolita I have is my Milky Berry outfit, so I guess I'm wearing that haha.
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I'd join you in your pirateyness but when I try to Pirate Lolita it ends up Gokaiger themed.
Lololol with your Basco hat? Yeahhhhhh
The only lolita I have is my Milky Berry outfit, so I guess I'm wearing that haha.
lolol Katie. What happened to your other stuff? Sold it all?
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I have no idea what I will wear. I sorta wear it every day. So I guess what every I put on that morning. XD
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The only lolita I have is my Milky Berry outfit, so I guess I'm wearing that haha.
lolol Katie. What happened to your other stuff? Sold it all?
Yeah, I sold Powder Rose to Ashlee, remember, and then sold my Jewelry Jelly set before Sakuracon to pay for my cosplay stuff. I'll never sell Milky Berry though <3
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The only lolita I have is my Milky Berry outfit, so I guess I'm wearing that haha.
lolol Katie. What happened to your other stuff? Sold it all?
Yeah, I sold Powder Rose to Ashlee, remember, and then sold my Jewelry Jelly set before Sakuracon to pay for my cosplay stuff. I'll never sell Milky Berry though <3
Mmmm Well, if you ever change your mind, hit me up. ;D
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If you guys don't mind that I'm not in lolita, I'd still like to come. My friend and I already have cosplay plans to be Soul and Death the Kid, but both wear and love the lolita fashion and would love to come and meet more of the community.
I don't mind. :) You'd probably end up being the designated photo-takers though. lol
I'd be totally fine with that. I'm pretty good at shoots. I'll talk to my friend. We may end up changing into Lolita~
Also, When were you guys planning on doing Soul eater Cosplay? My boyfriend and I are going as Maka and Stein.
Also, I vote Photoshoot before Food and then food. :D That way we don't feel all chubby in our pretty dresses after. ^^
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The only lolita I have is my Milky Berry outfit, so I guess I'm wearing that haha.
lolol Katie. What happened to your other stuff? Sold it all?
Yeah, I sold Powder Rose to Ashlee, remember, and then sold my Jewelry Jelly set before Sakuracon to pay for my cosplay stuff. I'll never sell Milky Berry though <3
Mmmm Well, if you ever change your mind, hit me up. ;D
omg nooooo ;___; I could never sell it! It was my dream dress for a long time, plus it has full back shirring and will fit me no matter what, and it was my first AP piece!
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The only lolita I have is my Milky Berry outfit, so I guess I'm wearing that haha.
lolol Katie. What happened to your other stuff? Sold it all?
Yeah, I sold Powder Rose to Ashlee, remember, and then sold my Jewelry Jelly set before Sakuracon to pay for my cosplay stuff. I'll never sell Milky Berry though <3
Mmmm Well, if you ever change your mind, hit me up. ;D
omg nooooo ;___; I could never sell it! It was my dream dress for a long time, plus it has full back shirring and will fit me no matter what, and it was my first AP piece!
Hahaha I had a feeling you'd say that. But that's what I was thinking about my Sleeping Beauty dress, and I ended up selling that. I still love the print, just not the style of the OP.
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The only lolita I have is my Milky Berry outfit, so I guess I'm wearing that haha.
lolol Katie. What happened to your other stuff? Sold it all?
Yeah, I sold Powder Rose to Ashlee, remember, and then sold my Jewelry Jelly set before Sakuracon to pay for my cosplay stuff. I'll never sell Milky Berry though <3
Mmmm Well, if you ever change your mind, hit me up. ;D
omg nooooo ;___; I could never sell it! It was my dream dress for a long time, plus it has full back shirring and will fit me no matter what, and it was my first AP piece!
Hahaha I had a feeling you'd say that. But that's what I was thinking about my Sleeping Beauty dress, and I ended up selling that. I still love the print, just not the style of the OP.
I love the print, color, and style. I wanted the specific piece for a long time so when Kirsty sold it, I totally jumped on the offer haha.
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So, my friend has this same wig. And I normaly don't like wigs with lolita (unless its a normal solid color) But I want to know what you guys thing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Unique-Pink-Colorful-Multi-Color-Long-Wavy-Cosplay-women-Wig-Hairnet-HN61-/221027402368?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D234847134265610380%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D5%26#ht_4423wt_982 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Unique-Pink-Colorful-Multi-Color-Long-Wavy-Cosplay-women-Wig-Hairnet-HN61-/221027402368?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D234847134265610380%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D5%26#ht_4423wt_982)
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Also, I cam across this site. I think some of their dresses are cute. And I was wondering what you guys think as far as ordering goes? (some of their dresses look like ita stuff) But what do you think?
http://www.lolitashop.us/
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So, my friend has this same wig. And I normaly don't like wigs with lolita (unless its a normal solid color) But I want to know what you guys thing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Unique-Pink-Colorful-Multi-Color-Long-Wavy-Cosplay-women-Wig-Hairnet-HN61-/221027402368?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D234847134265610380%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D5%26#ht_4423wt_982 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Unique-Pink-Colorful-Multi-Color-Long-Wavy-Cosplay-women-Wig-Hairnet-HN61-/221027402368?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D234847134265610380%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D5%26#ht_4423wt_982)
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Also, I cam across this site. I think some of their dresses are cute. And I was wondering what you guys think as far as ordering goes? (some of their dresses look like ita stuff) But what do you think?
http://www.lolitashop.us/
On the wig: I think it looks good. As long as the quality of a wig is good, it is kept styled nicely, and it goes with the outfit and the person's coloring, it's good to go.
On the website: Looks like a suspicious Milanoo branch. All of the pictures are photoshopped brand pictures, and I never trust websites with those kind of pictures, because you might get lucky and get a good replica, or you'll get screwed over and get some crappy ill-fitting garment.
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So, my friend has this same wig. And I normaly don't like wigs with lolita (unless its a normal solid color) But I want to know what you guys thing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Unique-Pink-Colorful-Multi-Color-Long-Wavy-Cosplay-women-Wig-Hairnet-HN61-/221027402368?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D234847134265610380%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D5%26#ht_4423wt_982 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Unique-Pink-Colorful-Multi-Color-Long-Wavy-Cosplay-women-Wig-Hairnet-HN61-/221027402368?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D234847134265610380%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D5%26#ht_4423wt_982)
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Also, I cam across this site. I think some of their dresses are cute. And I was wondering what you guys think as far as ordering goes? (some of their dresses look like ita stuff) But what do you think?
http://www.lolitashop.us/
On the wig: I think it looks good. As long as the quality of a wig is good, it is kept styled nicely, and it goes with the outfit and the person's coloring, it's good to go.
On the website: Looks like a suspicious Milanoo branch. All of the pictures are photoshopped brand pictures, and I never trust websites with those kind of pictures, because you might get lucky and get a good replica, or you'll get screwed over and get some crappy ill-fitting garment.
All right! Thank you! I wasn't sure so I wanted to ask! lol
I have a skirt I think that wig would look good with. I think I will get it. My friend has the same one and she says its a really good wig! Plus if It doesn't match my skirt I will make a skirt for it to go with.
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I'm actually pretty excited for the Kumorcon dinner meet, I haven't worn lolita to a con since Sakuracon 2010, and because of where I go to school I almost never get to go to meetups.
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I am trying to figure out a pattern to go with as a base for a lolita dress. I am working in a haunted house and I play a doll character so I thought of Lolita fashion because some of it is very doll like. Any suggestions/help?
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A line dresses and circle skirt patterns work really well. You can get a basic circle skirt pattern off the net and some fabric stores have pattern sales where you can get patterns for like 50 cents.
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I think the simplest skirt to do is just a rectangle skirt (I do 20in in length by twice selvage to selvage, then gathered into a waistband). Or, I used this pattern (slightly altered) to make my first three dresses: http://sewing.patternreview.com/patterns/20732 You just have to shorten the skirt.
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This is the design I have drawn out for it so far. I plan to use pastel blue, white lace, and dark blue ribbon.
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This is the design I have drawn out for it so far. I plan to use pastel blue, white lace, and dark blue ribbon.
Mmm... I think you forgot a picture?
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XD yup (https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=https%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash3%2F539795_2317155985441_1362865913_n.jpg&hash=53d97fe3db3ca7251ea2bfd445c45101e61f1bfd)
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With how that looks, I would say a circle skirt would fall better. It also looks better with a pettiecoat imo.
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okay necro'ing this thread because it deserves to be aliiiiiiiiiive~
anyone know anything about "return to sender" on things from Japonica? Like, have they ever gotten addresses wrong? My order barely made it to Santa Barbara before they returned it to Japonica. :-\
Black~Rose, I'd get rid of the hanging sleeves and make them tighter. In theory they're pretty but in reality they're really annoying. Also, a lot of people side eye them because a lot of ita dresses have them.
http://www.lolitashop.us is definitely a Milanoo branch. You can tell by the background of their images; the flowers. That and the stolen photos.
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ita dresses?
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oh I googled that phrase. Honestly I came to this thread for help on making the dress that I want. I have no desire to conform to any strict rule book for anything. To put it simply: I do what I want and I like what I like.
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Aesthetically I don't mind those kind of sleeves, but yes, they are kind of obnoxious to wear (I swear, they try to get in everything). Baby and AatP do a lot of dresses with those kind of sleeves, but with a puff sleeve above. Examples:
http://hellolace.net/wardrobe/alice-and-the-pirates/type/op/item/36/
http://hellolace.net/wardrobe/alice-and-the-pirates/type/op/item/21/
http://hellolace.net/wardrobe/alice-and-the-pirates/type/op/item/19/
These are all Aatp examples, but you get the idea. I still stick by a rectangle skirt, or with the pattern I suggested above. It would be simple enough to add the sleeve extension.
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Yeah I got a couple patterns to work with. I'm sticking with those sleeves because I am making them small. The picture I drew is an outline I am making a small drop off ruffle sleeve around the elbow. It will be more like this http://www.simplicity.com/p-1991-costumes.aspx the dress on the bottom right is the one I'm using for the sleeves.
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Oh, I like that! That's a pretty great base pattern!
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thanks ^^ I'm using multiple patterns and then adding stuff on to my liking. It will be an interesting project lol
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So ... how do I look?
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjothen.net%2Flolita%2FP1010012_crop_small.jpg&hash=124c21bc48062ac83505aaa9a2c21c3ae7f70713)
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you look really cute. i love the colors o.o the necklace might be alittle to odd it draws my eyes to it alot as well
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The necklace really detracts from what would otherwise be a cute coord. You should also really practice your makeup, because what you've got going on right now is just washing you out. Those really low heels also aren't doing any favors for your legs, I would suggest something higher. Maybe some lace tights instead of the solid black as well.
Cute dress though.
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Thanks for the feedbacks. Changed the necklace to another matching necklace/bracelet set.
Will have some 3" round toe mary janes heels later this week, but I put on some normal 3" heels for the picture. Are stilettos okay for this coord, I don't have any chunky heels?
No makeup in this picture. I have no idea what I am doing with makeup. I have watched youtube videos but that is not helping. I think I need some one on one help or at least someone to tell me specifically what to do.
(https://www.kumoricon.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjothen.net%2Flolita%2FP1010015_crop_small.JPG&hash=d954645afa8c7c278e3a60cd32a1c1e041bd77b2)
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First of all, thank you for taking criticism well. It's wonderful.
Since you are new to makeup, get some cream eyeliner (the kind with the little pot and brush, it's the easiest to apply) and some mascara and experiment. Get used to applying those because they will make your eyes immediately stand out. Have patience! Makeup is hard to learn.
I would also recommend trimming the bangs on your wig or at least not parting it down the center. What's on your head? I can see the edge of some sort of headdress but that's it.
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The necklace seems almost too plain to go with such a detailed dress, maybe something more like a choker would work better? I definitely agree that you should cut the bangs on your wig though, because the way you have it parted doesn't really do favors to the shape of your face. Also, practice makeup! Everyone has to practice or else nobody would ever look good!
The taller heels are better, but if you have something with a higher heel that would probably work better. Maybe no so plain, either? The dress is very froofy with lots of lace and bows and stuff, so if you have nothing but plain things to accessorize it with it sticks out like a sore thumb instead of acting like a cohesive whole.
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Heh heh. I like your dress. XD Your shoes sort of remind me of the kind I wore with my crossplays (except mine weren't stilettos!) and I had similar frilly bracelet thingies. XD
I'm prolly biased but I like it! ;D
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Hey, I am very new to learning about the lolita community. I know that places with very cheap-looking garments can be labeled "bad", but what other things turn the lolita community off about outfits? I thought about getting a cute dress before myself, but all this information is in all honesty very intimidating. xD I'd feel like I was doing something wrong.
Also, what does the lolita community think about striped tights/socks? I've seen it done a lot in anime, but I don't know if it really reflects the actual thing.
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Hey, I am very new to learning about the lolita community. I know that places with very cheap-looking garments can be labeled "bad", but what other things turn the lolita community off about outfits? I thought about getting a cute dress before myself, but all this information is in all honesty very intimidating. xD I'd feel like I was doing something wrong.
Also, what does the lolita community think about striped tights/socks? I've seen it done a lot in anime, but I don't know if it really reflects the actual thing.
As long as everything goes together well, it really doesn't matter how much the items cost. A Lolita friend I have mostly gets her wardrobe from "loliable" finds at Goodwill, and she's adorable! Also making your own dresses can save money. My advice to newbies is to start casually, maybe a skirt or two, paired with cute T-shirts, shoes, hair bows, cardigans, etc. because you can explore the different styles and coordinates without spending a lot of money. It is very intimidating, but I think my best advice to have a good experience is to not take criticism as, "OMG YOUR OUTFIT IS BAD, HOW DARE YOU SHAME THE LOLITA STYLE." Because that's not what it is. When we give criticism, like above, it is constructive criticism, but a lot of people get butthurt about it.
TL;DR: Wear what you like, be simple, don't get butthurt about constructive criticism, have an open mind and be open to advice and improvement. :)
As for striped tights/socks, they tend to be frowned upon because they're pretty oldschool, and can go ita REALLY fast. But it all really depends on what they're paired with. For example, I'll wear my black and white striped tights with Pirate Lolita, because it goes with the Pirate aesthetic, and I've worn some red and white striped socks with a Christmas outfit, because thy looked like candy canes. It all depends. :)
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What's on your head? I can see the edge of some sort of headdress but that's it.
Black head-eating alice bow
The necklace seems almost too plain to go with such a detailed dress, maybe something more like a choker would work better?
I guess the necklace will have to work for now. Being a male, I don't have much in the way of accessories yet.
The taller heels are better, but if you have something with a higher heel that would probably work better.
I do have 5" black heels although I don't think I will survive wearing them that long.
Okay, attempted to cut bangs into the wig...
Please critique makeup and other coord. For the other coord I will have some pink wristcuffs and the jsk probably needs to be ironed.
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While I don't see anything technically "wrong" with that outfit, It's a little boring. Lolitas are really into accessories, so add a neclkace, a ring, etc. It's the little details that make an outfit look right.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't feel embarrassed now to say I have been looking at Bodyline because of budget. I decided to read up on the websites provided, and ordered some things off Bodyline. I'm more of a gothic lolita fan than other styles, so I got some black with white accented things. I am fascinated by the history of lolita, and enjoyed reading up on each style. =] Hope to see other lolitas at con.
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Thanks for the feedbacks. Changed the necklace to another matching necklace/bracelet set.
Will have some 3" round toe mary janes heels later this week, but I put on some normal 3" heels for the picture. Are stilettos okay for this coord, I don't have any chunky heels?
No makeup in this picture. I have no idea what I am doing with makeup. I have watched youtube videos but that is not helping. I think I need some one on one help or at least someone to tell me specifically what to do.
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looks alot better
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What's on your head? I can see the edge of some sort of headdress but that's it.
Black head-eating alice bow
The necklace seems almost too plain to go with such a detailed dress, maybe something more like a choker would work better?
I guess the necklace will have to work for now. Being a male, I don't have much in the way of accessories yet.
The taller heels are better, but if you have something with a higher heel that would probably work better.
I do have 5" black heels although I don't think I will survive wearing them that long.
Okay, attempted to cut bangs into the wig...
Please critique makeup and other coord. For the other coord I will have some pink wristcuffs and the jsk probably needs to be ironed.
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It looks fine, Maybe alittle necklace or ring will work maybe get some stockings with some cute designes on them can make it pop alittle more its very simple just the way i like it personally to much accories can become to much and make you look sloppy or over the top as ive seen with other girls
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So, was there to be any kind of lolita meet up this year? I remember there being a get together at a tea shop last year but I sadly didn't make it.
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So, was there to be any kind of lolita meet up this year? I remember there being a get together at a tea shop last year but I sadly didn't make it.
https://www.facebook.com/events/465721783457754/
:3
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What sort of accessories should go with a lolita coat? In particular, this one in black: http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/showProduct2.asp?id=5610&pageNumber=1&pageStop=stop_6&noSubType=N
What should I add? Would a choker look weird? I feel like there should be something on the neck...
Also wondering if there should be a difference in accessories when it comes to wearing coats versus dresses versus jumpers. Would a parasol look strange with a coat, for instance? =\
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You're not going to wear just a coat as a dress, are you? You might bake or melt into a puddle on the ground. If you're dead-set on it, though, go for something like a high collar-style necklace/choker or a few longer necklaces that hang down over the front of the dress.
Accessorizing with a coat seems a little silly, though, since it's meant to be outerwear. Coats themselves are more accessories than actual dresses, and at least to me that almost seems like showing up to class wearing a windbreaker as a dress :\ if you want to wear it as a dress though, then treat it like a dress. Accessorize like you would a dress- with a nice bracelet or two, some matching hair accessories, a necklace or two and some cute shoes.
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If any of you lolitas are interested, I'm trying to sell my Angelic Pretty Strawberry Ribbon Switching JSK in yellow. I'm looking for $200 but I will consider offers. Can ship or meet at Kcon. It comes with a cute. Offbrand bag that goes quite well with it. :) PM me!
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You're not going to wear just a coat as a dress, are you? You might bake or melt into a puddle on the ground. If you're dead-set on it, though, go for something like a high collar-style necklace/choker or a few longer necklaces that hang down over the front of the dress.
Accessorizing with a coat seems a little silly, though, since it's meant to be outerwear. Coats themselves are more accessories than actual dresses, and at least to me that almost seems like showing up to class wearing a windbreaker as a dress :\ if you want to wear it as a dress though, then treat it like a dress. Accessorize like you would a dress- with a nice bracelet or two, some matching hair accessories, a necklace or two and some cute shoes.
Thinking of it that way, I can see where you're coming from. I've worn wool to con before though, and played DDR in it, so I know what it's like to bake...I may just wear lolita for a little while then change out into one of my cosplays.
I thought about getting a OP or JSK, but I wasn't drawn to the ones on Bodyline and buying a brand one was out of the question due to current funds. I think in the future I'll want to get one, though, if I can save my money for one. orz They look so pretty.
But if I do wear petticoats and a pair of bloomers underneath the coat, but no JSK or OP (instead just a shirt), is the outfit still considered lolita? (I wouldn't unbutton it.) I'm still going for the cupcake shape. No JSK or OP is visible on the model, as well. This coat just gave me a dressy feeling.
Edit: Speaking of looking at brands, I like this one by BTSSB: http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/baby/jumper/136299.html =3=~ I also liked the outfits I saw in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sb1Owt7zBjw Oh and this one asdfjkgdf: http://www.babyssb.co.jp/shopping/ap/onepiece/108P306.html
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I'm gonna seem like a total witch here, but a coat is not a dress. it's a coat. you wear it over a dress. when it's cold. besides, there are plenty of cute dresses on bodyline. you just didn't look hard enough.
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This week I was able to go to Baby the star shine bright in Japantown San Francisco, Ca It was amazing I went with my father when he went down their for a trucking tripp i didnt get anything but it was worth the trip to go in and look at all the new iteams in the town and older one and meeting the mannager of the store and workers very friendly and worth the trip i recoment going to their store location if you guys make a trip to down there :p
Also a new lolita outfit i got awhile back when out with friends and we got some pics it was really cute
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Working on my lolita for Sunday of Kumoricon to wear during the Cosplay competition (not an entry; I'm the Cosplay Coordinator). Hopefully it'll be done - my ruffler is getting a serious workout. :)
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Sorry to butt in, but I noticed no one's really commented on Jothen doing some eyeliner pencil to bring out and shape her eyes. Whether it's black, brown or the color of her wig, wouldn't just penciling them in add a nice definition and bring more attention to her eyes and face?
I remember someone telling me that eye-shadow on the eyebrows shouldn't be done because it can make them look too smokey (for a lolita look) and then fades and washes out into the face?
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Sorry to butt in, but I noticed no one's really commented on Jothen doing some eyeliner pencil to bring out and shape her eyes. Whether it's black, brown or the color of her wig, wouldn't just penciling them in add a nice definition and bring more attention to her eyes and face?
I remember someone telling me that eye-shadow on the eyebrows shouldn't be done because it can make them look too smokey (for a lolita look) and then fades and washes out into the face?
ashally I find that alittle eye shadow can do alot to one eyes and useing white on the waterline to make your eyes come out more as well can help with that as well with maybe some false eyelashes as well not sure but its be cute
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Sorry to butt in, but I noticed no one's really commented on Jothen doing some eyeliner pencil to bring out and shape her eyes. Whether it's black, brown or the color of her wig, wouldn't just penciling them in add a nice definition and bring more attention to her eyes and face?
I remember someone telling me that eye-shadow on the eyebrows shouldn't be done because it can make them look too smokey (for a lolita look) and then fades and washes out into the face?
Hmm, do I look like a girl? I must be making some progress or doing something right...
Still need more practice and experimenting on the eye makeup.
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Sorry to butt in, but I noticed no one's really commented on Jothen doing some eyeliner pencil to bring out and shape her eyes. Whether it's black, brown or the color of her wig, wouldn't just penciling them in add a nice definition and bring more attention to her eyes and face?
I remember someone telling me that eye-shadow on the eyebrows shouldn't be done because it can make them look too smokey (for a lolita look) and then fades and washes out into the face?
Hmm, do I look like a girl? I must be making some progress or doing something right...
Still need more practice and experimenting on the eye makeup.
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you make a cute girl but so can tell you are a guy. but thats becuse most of my friends love to crossplay and cross dress and so on o.o so easy for me. and you got no bewbs - points-
yeah id try useing white eye linner on your water line and maybe go to honey color and get some bright color contacts o.o
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Sorry to butt in, but I noticed no one's really commented on Jothen doing some eyeliner pencil to bring out and shape her eyes. Whether it's black, brown or the color of her wig, wouldn't just penciling them in add a nice definition and bring more attention to her eyes and face?
I remember someone telling me that eye-shadow on the eyebrows shouldn't be done because it can make them look too smokey (for a lolita look) and then fades and washes out into the face?
Hmm, do I look like a girl? I must be making some progress or doing something right...
Still need more practice and experimenting on the eye makeup.
I would definitely try some fake eyelashes though. They're a pain to learn how to use, but they can do wonders. *_*
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you make a cute girl but so can tell you are a guy. but thats becuse most of my friends love to crossplay and cross dress and so on o.o so easy for me. and you got no bewbs - points-
Yeah, between the blouse and jsk it masks the small cup size. Not sure what the max bust size of the pink jsk is, but I don't think I can go that much bigger.
I would definitely try some fake eyelashes though. They're a pain to learn how to use, but they can do wonders. *_*
I do have some falsies I can attempt to use.
Should I take off glasses for pictures? I've got an underbust corset, should I wear it underneath or am I going to burn up?
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wear it underneath
can we just be best friends! corsets are underwear!
actually answering your question, it's up to you. If you like the look of the corset under, wear it. But you don't have to.
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you make a cute girl but so can tell you are a guy. but thats becuse most of my friends love to crossplay and cross dress and so on o.o so easy for me. and you got no bewbs - points-
Yeah, between the blouse and jsk it masks the small cup size. Not sure what the max bust size of the pink jsk is, but I don't think I can go that much bigger.
I would definitely try some fake eyelashes though. They're a pain to learn how to use, but they can do wonders. *_*
I do have some falsies I can attempt to use.
Should I take off glasses for pictures? I've got an underbust corset, should I wear it underneath or am I going to burn up?
Ashally glasses are way cute >< on you
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Last night I finished my Lolita dress! Yahoo ;D
I still have to make the headpiece. I have only scraps left - it took about 6 yards of fabric and 24 yds of ribbon. The dress - without ruffles - took only 2 1/2 yards. The rest of the fabric was all sucked up in ruffles.
Did I mention I LOVE my ruffler? :)
I'll be wearing it Sunday all day (since I'm running cosplay). watch for it.
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Oh boy, ruffles! What style is the dress- classic, sweet, gothic?
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Oh boy, ruffles! What style is the dress- classic, sweet, gothic?
I think it's a gothic hybrid. Burgundy embroidered fabric (it's a synthetic duplioni w/ black threads on warp and red on weft making the net effect a very dark red / burgundy color). Shoulder princess seams, circle skirt, round neckline, ribbon cris-crossing front from chest to waist, rounded pockets w/ ribbon bow, and RUFFLES!!!! Still deciding on shoes / socks to wear with it - mostly because I'll be on my feet all day, I really need practical ones. Likely, I stuff a spare pair of shoes in my bag to switch into.