cosplay contest judging and prizes.
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they need to be better.
Just to clarify about that, because people still don't understand.
The hotel requested that we station someone there to control traffic flow, as well as bathroom access.
During the times that the Hotel Bar/Restaurant were open, we were told to limit access to anyone who was with the convention. BUT we were also told to use our discretion. If you really had to go, there shouldn't of been a problem with letting you go. (But then again it's a heard mentality, one person goes, tons go)
The bathroom in question is the ONLY one available for non-con attendees, so it had to get some priority.
Then there are the hundreds of people who said they wanted to go to the bathroom, but really just wanted to go down the up escalator.
That's odd, cause she was also told she could go down the escalators to use the restroom down there. She also came from the correct side, not walking past the sign that said, exit only or whatever it said. If she argued about going, it should have been made clear she really did have to go, and she was also in a rush to go. But she ended up holding it so she wouldn't lose her spot in line, which is not healthy.As I said it had nothing to do with costumes, though, I didn't deal with the person sitting at the top of the escalators but I assume there job was basically 'Dont let anyone cross the divider'
I told her she should of just stripped her costume right there and seen if that was good enough (she wasn't even in full out cosplay, she was a homemade Hogwarts student) I don't like the whole "non-costume priority" thing when someone is still a paying guest.
The Game. Seriously. Get over it. Yeah, there were less people harping on it this year, but some people still haven't realized that it's just annoying.
Oh, that's what happen. I heard differently. Still it was an annoyance.
The fire marshal wasn't there when this happened, and didn't directly have anything to do with it. He was in the building earlier that day, but not right then AFAIK. (By the way, guys - there are a lot of reasons we don't pull fire alarms for the lulz. Cheesing off the fire marshal, who can shut the convention down, is one of them.)
The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
While this is true, before rumors start, the fire alarm going off was not due to our attendees. As of the last time I spoke with the hotel people, it was due to a leaking pipe. (Hotelchan, correct me if this turns out to be wrong.)
So...in regards to the bathroom problems, I want to point out that there's a bathroom in every hotel room. The Bathrooms in the Lobbies and Event space were added to the blueprints of the hotel to serve customers attending events, conventions, and meetings at the hotel. They should have absolute priority for such customers not just regardless of whether they are paying for a room at the hotel, but particularly if they're not. Most people are capable of waiting 1-5 minutes to get to their room in order to use a toilet. The hotel had no logical justification in restricting that bathroom from convention use; they did it to spite the convention in order to demonstrate their belief that they are a superior, privileged class of society. They made a good-sounding rationalization but it doesn't hold up in a rational argument. I'm glad we're through with a terrible hotel that is not interested in providing excellent service to a major source of revenue.
While this is true, before rumors start, the fire alarm going off was not due to our attendees. As of the last time I spoke with the hotel people, it was due to a leaking pipe. (Hotelchan, correct me if this turns out to be wrong.)
So...in regards to the bathroom problems, I want to point out that there's a bathroom in every hotel room. The Bathrooms in the Lobbies and Event space were added to the blueprints of the hotel to serve customers attending events, conventions, and meetings at the hotel. They should have absolute priority for such customers not just regardless of whether they are paying for a room at the hotel, but particularly if they're not. Most people are capable of waiting 1-5 minutes to get to their room in order to use a toilet. The hotel had no logical justification in restricting that bathroom from convention use; they did it to spite the convention in order to demonstrate their belief that they are a superior, privileged class of society. They made a good-sounding rationalization but it doesn't hold up in a rational argument. I'm glad we're through with a terrible hotel that is not interested in providing excellent service to a major source of revenue.
Yes, thank you!
A customer is a customer, that is all that should matter
cosplay contest judging and prizes.
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they need to be better.
Maybe it was a regular attendee that was .. just .. cosplaying as a total creeper dude. D: [/wishful thinking]
As fun as it is it to be cute and adorable.. these are the times when I'm really thankful to be a guy. ^^;;;
The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.I remember this! Wasnt jack like being chased after a group of people. I seriously felt sorry for them. I don't mind getting hugs. but seriously? i walk into the glomp circle as hunny senpai and get not only glomp attacked, i was terrified. i mean, come on! even hunny would want to run away. and hes an attention whore. on another note, about those creepers... it was day zero when this guy came up to me while i was waiting for the max so i could go home and get as much sleep as i could. I wasnt even in cosplay. anywho, this really creepy guy started talking to me and i was being polite and talking back... until he started to look at me. and i mean i felt like he knew what i looked like naked kind of looking. I would've just walked away then and there except that the max was like a stop away. Anyways, the guy kept getting closer and closer to me until i had to take a step back just to have some space. and right when the max pulls up to the stop place, he caresses my elbow and says "you wanna have fun tonight?" i back out of the caress and tell no thank you and run into a different car than him. When I got inside, I could still feel his caress. and it creeped me out! I almost bleached my elbow when I got home. but I settled for a scrubbing. For all you girls, please be careful around guys or girls. if you get a creepy vibe from them, just walk away or go somewhere safe. The con staff room, or a store is a good example.
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.I remember this! Wasnt jack like being chased after a group of people. I seriously felt sorry for them. I don't mind getting hugs. but seriously?
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
heh. yeah. i just gave jack a nice hug afterwards and told how sorry i felt for him. it wasnt even funny watching it happen. and you wont believe how scary people got when they saw me. I was hunny senpai. and as much fun as i had... it was still kinda scary how some of these people got.The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.I remember this! Wasnt jack like being chased after a group of people. I seriously felt sorry for them. I don't mind getting hugs. but seriously?
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
Yeah, our Jack got chased. :/ What the hell. I was absolutely appalled at what happened. I felt bad for him too, but we all ended up getting it. Luckily the Hatter and I weren't chased, but still. It was all against our will, and that's illegal. We also all put a lot of time/money into our costumes, so if anything would have happened to them because of that incident I would have been furious.
The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.I remember this! Wasnt jack like being chased after a group of people. I seriously felt sorry for them. I don't mind getting hugs. but seriously? i walk into the glomp circle as hunny senpai and get not only glomp attacked, i was terrified. i mean, come on! even hunny would want to run away. and hes an attention whore. on another note, about those creepers... it was day zero when this guy came up to me while i was waiting for the max so i could go home and get as much sleep as i could. I wasnt even in cosplay. anywho, this really creepy guy started talking to me and i was being polite and talking back... until he started to look at me. and i mean i felt like he knew what i looked like naked kind of looking. I would've just walked away then and there except that the max was like a stop away. Anyways, the guy kept getting closer and closer to me until i had to take a step back just to have some space. and right when the max pulls up to the stop place, he caresses my elbow and says "you wanna have fun tonight?" i back out of the caress and tell no thank you and run into a different car than him. When I got inside, I could still feel his caress. and it creeped me out! I almost bleached my elbow when I got home. but I settled for a scrubbing. For all you girls, please be careful around guys or girls. if you get a creepy vibe from them, just walk away or go somewhere safe. The con staff room, or a store is a good example.
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
cosplay contest judging and prizes.
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they need to be better.
QFT.
I feel like I'm being kinda rude by saying it, but the prizes for the Cosplay Contest left a lot to be desired. I'm happy with what I picked, yes, but the fact that it was all I could find that I found worth taking as a prize somewhat irked me. From what I saw there were second volumes of DVD sets, second volumes of manga, figmas from a show I've never heard of, and forgive me if I'm wrong but I do believe I saw magazine inserts that looked like they had just been torn right out of a magazine. The socks looked comfy, yeah, but what if you don't like socks? What are you stuck with then? A Sgt. Frog keychain barely worth the paper your prize receipt was printed on? How to Draw Manga? A pile of Soul Eater wall scrolls?
Wow, that was really kinda rude and I'm really sorry but it had to be said.
I APPRECIATED THE PLAQUE VERY MUCH. :>cosplay contest judging and prizes.
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they need to be better.
QFT.
I feel like I'm being kinda rude by saying it, but the prizes for the Cosplay Contest left a lot to be desired. I'm happy with what I picked, yes, but the fact that it was all I could find that I found worth taking as a prize somewhat irked me. From what I saw there were second volumes of DVD sets, second volumes of manga, figmas from a show I've never heard of, and forgive me if I'm wrong but I do believe I saw magazine inserts that looked like they had just been torn right out of a magazine. The socks looked comfy, yeah, but what if you don't like socks? What are you stuck with then? A Sgt. Frog keychain barely worth the paper your prize receipt was printed on? How to Draw Manga? A pile of Soul Eater wall scrolls?
Wow, that was really kinda rude and I'm really sorry but it had to be said.
Unfortunately, the prize selections were dictated by what was donated to Kumoricon. I'm sorry that it wasn't what you wanted, but donations and promotional materials being what they are, that's the best that was available. (also, those who picked up their items earlier likely picked the "better" items...). I have no control over what's available for prizes - at least you were able to select items for your prize - in previous years the judges had to pick the items for you and THAT was rather difficult given the selection that's available. At least you got a very nice plaque with your name on it that you can display (those plaques are custom made by programming staff who spent many hours making them. CHEERS to the staff who made the 44 plaques rather than spending time enjoying the convention)
Out of curiosity, what would make good cosplay prizes?
Out of curiosity, what would make good cosplay prizes?
I threw around the idea of something like gift cards to fabric selling establishments back at Sak, which got kinda put on the back burner.
Honestly, I don't think there should be a glomp circle anymore but that's just me.
I'm against it because I was knocked over so hard a couple years ago that someone broke my ankle.
Gift cards, to fabric, wig, food, or other places, seems like a really good idea.
Honestly, I don't think there should be a glomp circle anymore but that's just me.
I'm against it because I was knocked over so hard a couple years ago that someone broke my ankle.
This is one of the reasons why we've never allowed this, or certain other events, to be official things. We can't control what attendees do on their own time, off-site. But, we do urge them to be very careful and to leave if things get uncomfortable.
great idea. it would really benefit the cosplayers.Out of curiosity, what would make good cosplay prizes?
I threw around the idea of something like gift cards to fabric selling establishments back at Sak, which got kinda put on the back burner.
Haha, being picked up can be creepy when it's someone you don't know.
I hated getting told by Yojimbo that a certain balcony was ok to sleep on and then getting woken up mega early and getting told no sleeping . WTF make up your mind god dangit!
It wasn't vagrancy when your sleeping in rented con space and given permission.
I also hated all the street kids that chilled in the lobby with no pass Because all the anime nerds were chillin there and it was better than smoking pot at pioneer SQ". (His words not mine) If your not going to pay for your pass bo be a bum elsewhere!
Haha, being picked up can be creepy when it's someone you don't know.
There was a guy who asked me for a hug. I said OK, and when he gave the hug he picked me up off the ground. This isn't a good idea. I was carrying very expensive photo equipment. If he had lost his balance and we fell and stuff got broken, it would have been a disaster.
I believe the person did it in a spirit of having fun, and meant nothing bad by it, but please don't do this.
Haha, being picked up can be creepy when it's someone you don't know.
There was a guy who asked me for a hug. I said OK, and when he gave the hug he picked me up off the ground. This isn't a good idea. I was carrying very expensive photo equipment. If he had lost his balance and we fell and stuff got broken, it would have been a disaster.
I believe the person did it in a spirit of having fun, and meant nothing bad by it, but please don't do this.
I found this out myself several years ago. I was lucky - the person was a sweetheart about it and explained to me, just like you're doing now, that to some people it's really uncomfortable (or even scary). It gave me a chance to learn better.
When someone cares enough to give you the benefit of the doubt and explain a situation to you so that you don't repeat a mistake, it's good to listen. It beats the heck out of finding out later that you hurt someone's feelings and don't have a chance to take it back.
Sometimes I wonder whether talking about things like this would make a good 30-minute panel. Almost no one at Kumoricon wants to hurt or scare others, I'm sure of it. But when it comes to stuff like this, there's a lot of room for misunderstanding what the boundaries are.
Almost no one at Kumoricon wants to hurt or scare others, I'm sure of it. But when it comes to stuff like this, there's a lot of room for misunderstanding what the boundaries are.
Actually, we did. We had the 'How To Con' panel on convention etiquette from someone who goes to many cons a year due to her job.Which, ironically, a lot of us missed because we were waiting in the pre-registration line. Really more than ANYTHING else the registration lines are intolerable.
QuoteActually, we did. We had the 'How To Con' panel on convention etiquette from someone who goes to many cons a year due to her job.Which, ironically, a lot of us missed because we were waiting in the pre-registration line. Really more than ANYTHING else the registration lines are intolerable.
Yeah.....i was told to go wait in line AGAIN during saturday even though i was already registered friday night and good to go, some of the staff wouldnt let me inside. After i reached the front again, i guess a staff member that was educated freaked out and kept apologizing for me waiting in line again. Dont plan on going again next year, was a waste of time. Sorry.
I know why it worked the way it did this year but-
Can we please have escelators that go up and down like the natural flow of traffic in America next year? I don't know how many people I asked to go up the "correct" way only to have them ignore me or give a general attitude about how "no one is coming down this way" while walking back up the "correct" way.
Haha, being picked up can be creepy when it's someone you don't know.
There was a guy who asked me for a hug. I said OK, and when he gave the hug he picked me up off the ground. This isn't a good idea. I was carrying very expensive photo equipment. If he had lost his balance and we fell and stuff got broken, it would have been a disaster.
I believe the person did it in a spirit of having fun, and meant nothing bad by it, but please don't do this.
I found this out myself several years ago. I was lucky - the person was a sweetheart about it and explained to me, just like you're doing now, that to some people it's really uncomfortable (or even scary). It gave me a chance to learn better.
When someone cares enough to give you the benefit of the doubt and explain a situation to you so that you don't repeat a mistake, it's good to listen. It beats the heck out of finding out later that you hurt someone's feelings and don't have a chance to take it back.
Sometimes I wonder whether talking about things like this would make a good 30-minute panel. Almost no one at Kumoricon wants to hurt or scare others, I'm sure of it. But when it comes to stuff like this, there's a lot of room for misunderstanding what the boundaries are.
Actually, we did. We had the 'How To Con' panel on convention etiquette from someone who goes to many cons a year due to her job.
Well, if you have someone to run such a panel, you can have it happen next year.
Though, a glomp circle can't be a panel activity, as far as I know. It would just be a con etiquette panel focused on touching.
Well, if you have someone to run such a panel, you can have it happen next year.
Though, a glomp circle can't be a panel activity, as far as I know. It would just be a con etiquette panel focused on touching.
Thank you for the advice. :) I've been thinking about it, and have a few people in mind who would be perfect if I can con them into it sometime before next year.
And I completely agree - heck, we can't even directly suggest that this be a meetup spot for the glomp circle, let alone make it part of the panel. I was thinking more along the lines of a scripted panelist demonstration of what to do as well as what to NOT do, and a discussion after. (The demo would include every example listed so far, so please keep listing 'em.)
It would just be a con etiquette panel focused on touching.
It would just be a con etiquette panel focused on touching.
This... kinda scares me :o
The Fangirl/Fanboy Support Panel also had rules and etiquette on glomping, and demos of how to do it correctly (or at least it did the first year it ran, which ironically was at the Vancouver Hilton).
The decision for whether to allow it or forbid it is likely to be yours, so your opinion particularly matters.
My main thought about the subject is that with the number of horror stories in this thread alone, it might be good to focus on the problem specifically instead of hoping people will know which panel might mention it. (Con horror stories seem to be like bugs - for every one you see, it has ten buddies hiding behind the wall.)
More to the point, it might be good to use the title mentioned to draw in the kind of people who need the advice. The kind of people who'd be thoughtful/perspicacious enough to attend a lecture on con etiquette probably aren't the ones we need to worry about.
Some signs on the main doors and stairwells pointing out you can break people's costumes and bones that way would be good too.
Also, what of sending someone into the middle of the circle with a megaphone to remind them how to play nice? The circles seem fun when they're not getting crazy (I walked past the one last year several times and was never bothered- I must give off "don't touch me" vibes or something...)
Reading the past few pages, the issue of "glomping" appears to be interesting.
I think when it comes down to it, it needs to be as simple as this, use your best judgment and, if you want to push it even further, do it to people you know.
When I read about the circle that Jacob_Blackfeather had mentioned, because it was in public and off hotel property (aka con property), it can be seen as assault. There is no gray area. If it was on con property, then it would be handled by con security of course, or hotel security depending on how severe, and dealt with accordingly, I would believe.
Perhaps for future events, Staff need to make a mention in the book involving glomping and basically say that "You may do it, but if it's seen as causing a disturbance in con space, security has the right to ask you to stop, or remove you from said building etc. And in severe cases, K-con reserves the right to remove you from the entirety of con. Please use your best judgment before engaging in any activity."
I mean its best to ask yourself. Do I know them? If the answer is no, then don't do it. It's as simple as that, some people have insane reflexes and if they see someone they don't know charging after them, they could react defensively, like in beast's case, which will hurt another attendee, or attendees but also bring negative, unwanted attention.
Hearing about a Glomp Circle like that just kinda annoys me. I'm not a touchy-feely person, you can ask any number of my friends how long it takes me to warm up to physically touching someone beyond a handshake or high-5, I'm just uncomfortable with physical contact most of the time. I've never had an issue with people trying to Glomp me...more with casual hugs where I tense up and its extremely awkward.
The one similar instance I experienced was during the Q&A after the Hetalia screening. Someone asked if they could give Todd a (group?) hug...at which point 20-30 people practically ran up to the stage. No one was hurt. This time...but I know I had a mini panic attack standing there, as a guest liaison, 5 feet away, and not be positive that everyone in that circle was okay. Todd is pretty easy going, and thankfully likes hugs. But even guests have their limits. And PLEASE! running and 'glomping' a big group of people is not a good idea. If someone tripped, and fell it would have been very easy for them to get hurt, very quickly.
But there are reasons beyond disliking physical contact to remember.
Allergies - Some people are severely allergic to coloured dyes in makeup or food or drinks, or that peanut butter sandwich you just ate, or purfume...there are lots of things that could cause someone to have a severe reaction, and if they don't get the chance to say 'No', it turns into a very bad situation.
Costumes - A number of people listed delicate costumes, but there is also the potential for pins or other sharp objects to be on people's costumes that you may not be able to see right away.
I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons why people need to be more aware of their fellow con-goer's feelings and boundaries on this subject, but I feel putting something in the Con Book or having more signs wouldn't exactly solve the problem. Things like that, and demos and rules explained at opening ceremonies or in a panel I feel also don't have the same effect as something mandatory...I believe in the 14 or 15 cons I've been to over the years I've been to ONE opening ceremonies, and I've never gone to a 'How to Con' equivalent panel...though I know years ago I tried to go.
To be honest the only way I can think of making sure every attendee realizes some of the problems with glomp circles or other things, is to have the info posted at the reg and pre-reg desks and make them read through the list of 'major concerns from previous years'? This isn't really practical, and it would slow down the lines even more...but its a major safety concern for a lot of people for varying reasons, and it seems a lot of attendees don't realize that.
Now that I've reiterated what's already been talked to death...>_<
My first 'concern' on a con level was lack of other staffers checking for badges. I kept taking my badge off, and holding it, or having it tied to a belt loop so that it was barely visible and while I almost always flash my badge so its visible when I enter rooms and such, there were probably at least a dozen times I could have been stopped and wasn't. I talked to at least one other staffer who noticed this during the con. (I know at least on the first day it wasn't because people knew who I was either...I was in cosplay and people I've staffed with for a few years didn't recognize me till I started talking.) And I am in no way condoning walking around a con without having a badge, or without having a visible badge! (I was very bad about it this year, and will definitely try to be better about having mine on and visible next year!) Besides, taking it on and off gives you more chances to lose your badge!
Its just something that needs to be gone over again and again with new and old staff to make sure they are checking for badges on staff and attendees. I realize it gets tiring having to check badges all day, I work at a movie theatre and I've been yelled at just for asking for a ticket stub at the door, or for ID for a rated R movie. It sucks if you end up with the grumpy person who bites your head off, but its part of a staffer's job to check, not just at doorways but in panel rooms, hallways within con space, etc.
Another bit of etiquette to remember with guests - they are very busy at conventions, after all, some people come to cons just for the guests. Our guests also run a decent amount of panels, which gets tiring after talking and being the center of attention for so long. Tiffany, Todd, and Sonny all flew in from Houston, which isn't a horrible flight all on its own, but its still exhausting when you add in travel to the airport, waiting at the airport, flying, getting off the plane, getting luggage, getting picked up by someone you don't know (we need more colourful signs for next year with bigger print letters btw), going to the con hotel, checking in, getting dinner, etc...its a lot to do before the con even starts.
So when the liaisons (the staff in charge of helping the guests while they are at the con) or the guests say they need to go - eat, to another panel, to bed, anything - that is not the time to be asking for autographs or hugs or pictures. The guests want the attendees to be happy, the staff want the attendees to be happy, but sometimes time just runs out. Our guests this year were really great about trying to do as many autographs as they could during the weekend. But there is a time and place for them, and in the hall, when they are trying to go somewhere else is not that time or place. And to be honest, this is the point when the staff tend to get snippy with attendees...which sucks on all ends cause we don't wanna ruin someone's day. But like with the glomping, no means no.
Also no one should take this personally or the wrong way! It happens at other cons (seen it at Comic Con and at Sak), it happens to movie stars, I'm guilty of being an overzealous fangirl over a guest or two at past cons. So if you're guilty of this, and feel bad about it, don't feel too bad, it happens, just try to be understanding of what the guests and staff request of you so that everyone can have a good time!
Other than those few concerns, I had a very good con - minus a few personal mishaps. All the guests were great, and fun to talk to! And the attendees seemed to really enjoy them! Which was a good thing too! I really hope to see them back again! I'm also super excited for cosplay for next year, I've got a lot of sewing to do! And yeah, don't Glomp without asking, make sure your badge is visible, and don't pester the guests for autographs and pictures!
Hearing about a Glomp Circle like that just kinda annoys me. I'm not a touchy-feely person, you can ask any number of my friends how long it takes me to warm up to physically touching someone beyond a handshake or high-5, I'm just uncomfortable with physical contact most of the time. I've never had an issue with people trying to Glomp me...more with casual hugs where I tense up and its extremely awkward.
The one similar instance I experienced was during the Q&A after the Hetalia screening. Someone asked if they could give Todd a (group?) hug...at which point 20-30 people practically ran up to the stage. No one was hurt. This time...but I know I had a mini panic attack standing there, as a guest liaison, 5 feet away, and not be positive that everyone in that circle was okay. Todd is pretty easy going, and thankfully likes hugs. But even guests have their limits. And PLEASE! running and 'glomping' a big group of people is not a good idea. If someone tripped, and fell it would have been very easy for them to get hurt, very quickly.
But there are reasons beyond disliking physical contact to remember.
Allergies - Some people are severely allergic to coloured dyes in makeup or food or drinks, or that peanut butter sandwich you just ate, or purfume...there are lots of things that could cause someone to have a severe reaction, and if they don't get the chance to say 'No', it turns into a very bad situation.
Costumes - A number of people listed delicate costumes, but there is also the potential for pins or other sharp objects to be on people's costumes that you may not be able to see right away.
I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons why people need to be more aware of their fellow con-goer's feelings and boundaries on this subject, but I feel putting something in the Con Book or having more signs wouldn't exactly solve the problem. Things like that, and demos and rules explained at opening ceremonies or in a panel I feel also don't have the same effect as something mandatory...I believe in the 14 or 15 cons I've been to over the years I've been to ONE opening ceremonies, and I've never gone to a 'How to Con' equivalent panel...though I know years ago I tried to go.
To be honest the only way I can think of making sure every attendee realizes some of the problems with glomp circles or other things, is to have the info posted at the reg and pre-reg desks and make them read through the list of 'major concerns from previous years'? This isn't really practical, and it would slow down the lines even more...but its a major safety concern for a lot of people for varying reasons, and it seems a lot of attendees don't realize that.
Now that I've reiterated what's already been talked to death...>_<
My first 'concern' on a con level was lack of other staffers checking for badges. I kept taking my badge off, and holding it, or having it tied to a belt loop so that it was barely visible and while I almost always flash my badge so its visible when I enter rooms and such, there were probably at least a dozen times I could have been stopped and wasn't. I talked to at least one other staffer who noticed this during the con. (I know at least on the first day it wasn't because people knew who I was either...I was in cosplay and people I've staffed with for a few years didn't recognize me till I started talking.) And I am in no way condoning walking around a con without having a badge, or without having a visible badge! (I was very bad about it this year, and will definitely try to be better about having mine on and visible next year!) Besides, taking it on and off gives you more chances to lose your badge!
Its just something that needs to be gone over again and again with new and old staff to make sure they are checking for badges on staff and attendees. I realize it gets tiring having to check badges all day, I work at a movie theatre and I've been yelled at just for asking for a ticket stub at the door, or for ID for a rated R movie. It sucks if you end up with the grumpy person who bites your head off, but its part of a staffer's job to check, not just at doorways but in panel rooms, hallways within con space, etc.
Another bit of etiquette to remember with guests - they are very busy at conventions, after all, some people come to cons just for the guests. Our guests also run a decent amount of panels, which gets tiring after talking and being the center of attention for so long. Tiffany, Todd, and Sonny all flew in from Houston, which isn't a horrible flight all on its own, but its still exhausting when you add in travel to the airport, waiting at the airport, flying, getting off the plane, getting luggage, getting picked up by someone you don't know (we need more colourful signs for next year with bigger print letters btw), going to the con hotel, checking in, getting dinner, etc...its a lot to do before the con even starts.
So when the liaisons (the staff in charge of helping the guests while they are at the con) or the guests say they need to go - eat, to another panel, to bed, anything - that is not the time to be asking for autographs or hugs or pictures. The guests want the attendees to be happy, the staff want the attendees to be happy, but sometimes time just runs out. Our guests this year were really great about trying to do as many autographs as they could during the weekend. But there is a time and place for them, and in the hall, when they are trying to go somewhere else is not that time or place. And to be honest, this is the point when the staff tend to get snippy with attendees...which sucks on all ends cause we don't wanna ruin someone's day. But like with the glomping, no means no.
Also no one should take this personally or the wrong way! It happens at other cons (seen it at Comic Con and at Sak), it happens to movie stars, I'm guilty of being an overzealous fangirl over a guest or two at past cons. So if you're guilty of this, and feel bad about it, don't feel too bad, it happens, just try to be understanding of what the guests and staff request of you so that everyone can have a good time!
Other than those few concerns, I had a very good con - minus a few personal mishaps. All the guests were great, and fun to talk to! And the attendees seemed to really enjoy them! Which was a good thing too! I really hope to see them back again! I'm also super excited for cosplay for next year, I've got a lot of sewing to do! And yeah, don't Glomp without asking, make sure your badge is visible, and don't pester the guests for autographs and pictures!
I think everything was delightful..It could be just he wanted a Candid shot. You can look at LovelyAngel's shoot in the photo thread. I think the guy was a difrent person. I took a lot a stage shot with my Cococat but I not happy with frozen sameness.
EXCEPT...
There was this older man with a beard, in a blue shirt with a camera around his neck, across the street and pointing and shooting pictures of everybody, and it seemed all creepy-like, he paced and tried to be discreet.
And as far as I know, there aren't any "Candid Street Shot" galleries that have been posted!
The other issue,
was the fact that the hotel was organized like a Labyrinth. But then again, at after-hours in the ballroom, they DID play "Magic Dance" by David Bowie, so it seemed fitting.
Someone tried ripping off my mask and stealing it when I had it on xDdude, i wouldve been so pissed. thats not ok.
@Ally & Jake-Black....wow, thanks! I write long long posts when I'm tired. ^__^;; (I seriously didn't realize it was quite THAT long till now though....)
Someone squeezed my butt when I gave them a hug. D:Might have been me in disguise
Someone squeezed my butt when I gave them a hug. D:
Someone squeezed my butt when I gave them a hug. D:Might have been me in disguise
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You NEVER are supposed to accept an open drink from someone you don't know. Date rape?!!
This is more so something that was in the control of the attendees more than the con itself.Out of curiousity...would this have been the neighbors right across the hall from my room(directly next to yours)? My roommates & myself heard & saw quite a bit of comotion with con staff, hotel staff & security over there for a while. Looked like the room was being searched & people were packing bags to leave. We were wondering what in the heck was going on over there lol...
My room neighbors were visited quite frequently during the hours of the night. I wouldn't mind this if all of their guests didn't bang on the door as loud as they could.
If you visit someone's room, no matter what time of day, please knock quietly. Just because you are awake doesn't mean someone isn't sleeping in one of the rooms nearby. And trust me, we can hear you banging...and I'm sure a quieter knock is just as efficient. Or hey, most of us have cell phones. You can text the person inside if it's late enough and you don't want to wake people up.
Another issue I came across was the distribution of alcohol to minors.
Con staff took care of this for me and my roommates when we reported it but it still agitated me.
One of my friends who was attending con with me is a minor (green badge and all!!) and she was offered a sip of something while waiting for the elevators. I come up and she tells me to take a sip. Gullible me who trusts my friends took a sip and I was met with quite a shocking taste. Turns out it was Vodka mixed with whipped cream and some other stuff that sounded like it should never have been mixed. She had her badge on and these people just gave it to her without a second thought. And yes, they were con goers as well.
The next day I saw one of the people in the elevator and he offered my friend a drink, telling her it was a Bloody Mary. I told him no and he offered me a sip as well. This was the last straw and I reported what was going on to con staff because it is not okay with me.
If you want to drink, then fine. I don't care what you do with yourself and drinking, but don't offer it to other people who aren't of age. Especially in con space! I don't know if alcohol is or isn't against con rules because I don't drink so I never paid attention to anything about it. But you still should never offer it to someone underage. I would understand if you saw a blue badge because we are at least in the age range. But a Green/Yellow badge? The oldest they are is 17 and that is not okay.
I'm fine with drinking if you are of age so don't take me as anti-alcohol. I'm just anti-MIP.
So please, PLEASE don't do this. It really irked me.
And another thing...no matter your age, don't accept drinks from random people. Just because we are all con-goers and we have a common bond, doesn't mean we all have the best interests in mind. Making friends is fine but don't accept drinks from people you don't know extremely well and know you can trust. It's dangerous and could get you really hurt.
And sometimes even your friends make bad choices and you end up taking a swig of Vodka on accident when you expected something like a Coke (It was in plastic cup like from McDonald's...). So if your friend magically has a drink, ask what's in it. That was my bad because I didn't really think it through. So, please think before you do stupid stuff like I did.
QuoteActually, we did. We had the 'How To Con' panel on convention etiquette from someone who goes to many cons a year due to her job.Which, ironically, a lot of us missed because we were waiting in the pre-registration line. Really more than ANYTHING else the registration lines are intolerable.
@Gryffinclaw Princess: Maybe next con now that I know more of you guys better, we will come over & suffer with you lol.
@Kylite: We weren't bothered by it in our room...more confused/curious than anything. It's amazing that people (especially minors) think it's a good idea to publicly offer alcohol to minors or other con attendees. That is a surefire way to get into a hell of a lot of trouble. I personally enjoy drinks here & there but do not walk around in public pushing drinks at random people. Anyway, thanks for dealing with that issue...I have many friends that attend the conventions who are minors & I would be very upset if someone had approached them with such an offer.
Actually, Czarcasm has a good way of quickly dealing with people at con who are doing really stupid stuff like offering drinks. He calls it 'evil monkey'. Just point at them dramatically, and that usually embarrasses them into stopping.Evil Monkey works! I got a group of drunk non-congoers who were wandering through conspace at Gamestorm mocking the gamers to go elsewhere when I "Evil Monkey"ed them.
Like so:
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This was an old issue that I didn't finish reading, but isn't blocking off the only bathroom on that floor some sort of health/disabilities code violation?
Oh and for the gaming entrance/exit, half the time there was no one counting us leaving (by ramp or the first door). Making the counting system broken. Gaming was also not high traffic enough to need more then one in/out and one person with a clicker. I don't know if you are required people leave a different way then they came in (probably not) but if you NEED a second exit for emergencies you can close it off so that it isn't the most noticeable exit if you are not looking and add a sign saying exit the other way on the door. Pretty sure no one wanted to exit the way it was set up.
The system that was in place for gaming was per the hotel, for the specific requirements of the space. That system will change each year, dependent on the venue.Okay, as long as it wasn't us who wanted it like that :D I can see why they wanted it, but there was a better way as mentioned.
Overall, I felt this con went much better than last year's. It did get a bit cold waiting outside in the pre-reg line, it would be nice if lines could be kept indoors (if possible). But it was much more organized than other cons I've seen.
Although I personally didn't have any problems, I felt that staff could have been better informed of pertinent information. For instance, several cosplayers in the contest had trouble getting to the green room, because staff was blocking people from going down the escalators. The Cosplay Contest staff had told us just to inform them that we were in the contest, but some staff members wouldn't listen when other contestants told them this. Fortunately they were able to get downstairs in time to check in.
And the glomping, yes. I can't believe I got to my third con before a pre-teen hurtled herself through the air at me. Really, when you see someone cringing away and protecting fragile parts of their costume as you make your running start, that's a good sign to back off. Another panel on Con Ettiquette would be great, especially if attendance was mandatory...
Some reminders for photography etiquette would be nice, too. There was a very rude photographer at one of the photoshoots, who not only delayed us setting off from the hotel, but also kept walking into shots once the shoot had started. Sometimes your favorite character is in a hurry, or has places to be, please be understanding.
I'll start:
On Day 2 the Staff member who had to keep the head count for the gaming area, didn't and then this lead to the fire marshall kicking everyone out, in order for the head count to start over. This irked me a lot.
I'll start:
On Day 2 the Staff member who had to keep the head count for the gaming area, didn't and then this lead to the fire marshall kicking everyone out, in order for the head count to start over. This irked me a lot.
I've been waiting to share this and it branches from his complaint. While I agree with the need to restore headcount what I did not agree with was the manner we were told to leave the area. My group of friends and I were yelled at aggressively by two gaming staff which was absolutely not necessary. I understand they were most likely stressed from the set back however I like to think that staffing an event is akin to any customer service position and this was a very, very poor representation of the convention.
Being verbally whipped at like cattle was something I never expected from the Kumoricon staff. I was truley appauled and hurt and sincerely hope that respect and self-control will be stressed more for our next convention.
Thank you. =)
A bunch of areas were blocked off and i had to walk around the entire building just to get to a restroom D:
I'll start:
On Day 2 the Staff member who had to keep the head count for the gaming area, didn't and then this lead to the fire marshall kicking everyone out, in order for the head count to start over. This irked me a lot.
I've been waiting to share this and it branches from his complaint. While I agree with the need to restore headcount what I did not agree with was the manner we were told to leave the area. My group of friends and I were yelled at aggressively by two gaming staff which was absolutely not necessary. I understand they were most likely stressed from the set back however I like to think that staffing an event is akin to any customer service position and this was a very, very poor representation of the convention.
Being verbally whipped at like cattle was something I never expected from the Kumoricon staff. I was truley appauled and hurt and sincerely hope that respect and self-control will be stressed more for our next convention.
Thank you. =)
My friend actually left the con and did not come back after that happened.
Overall, I felt this con went much better than last year's. It did get a bit cold waiting outside in the pre-reg line, it would be nice if lines could be kept indoors (if possible). But it was much more organized than other cons I've seen.
Overall, I felt this con went much better than last year's. It did get a bit cold waiting outside in the pre-reg line, it would be nice if lines could be kept indoors (if possible). But it was much more organized than other cons I've seen.
Due to fire regulations the line can not be inside unless the building is zoned for having lines inside (i.e. Convention center), If you look at the rose garden and coliseum, their lines are outside too. I tried my best to keep the line "under cover" as much as possible while following fire code.
Overall, I felt this con went much better than last year's. It did get a bit cold waiting outside in the pre-reg line, it would be nice if lines could be kept indoors (if possible). But it was much more organized than other cons I've seen.
Due to fire regulations the line can not be inside unless the building is zoned for having lines inside (i.e. Convention center), If you look at the rose garden and coliseum, their lines are outside too. I tried my best to keep the line "under cover" as much as possible while following fire code.
I have been to many, many hotel meetings and I have never heard of a hotel needing to be 'zoned for lines'. We have space issues with having the lines inside. As far as needing special zoning for the presence of lines in a space ... I have never heard of such a thing.
The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
Basically this "Sh**" happened to me when I was with a couple friends as Sebastian Michealis there. I decided to sit down and chill for a bit till this random fangirl screamed my character's name,and literally the whole group chased me..I ran of course and my friend yelled and told them to stop and managed to make a diversion and yes that day my feet were sore due to my dress shoes and I don't appreciate these people going on ahead and doing such stupid acts that would get them selves arrested.
There were couple con-goers who did piss me off quite a bit due to this outcome.
The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
Basically this "Sh**" happened to me when I was with a couple friends as Sebastian Michealis there. I decided to sit down and chill for a bit till this random fangirl screamed my character's name,and literally the whole group chased me..I ran of course and my friend yelled and told them to stop and managed to make a diversion and yes that day my feet were sore due to my dress shoes and I don't appreciate these people going on ahead and doing such stupid acts that would get them selves arrested.
There were couple con-goers who did piss me off quite a bit due to this outcome.
I'm so sorry that happened to you too. It just baffles me. I was just lucky that my costume aided me in protecting my group the second time. The first time there was really no time to think or act. :/ But I think you'd have to be an idiot to try that crap again when I've got my straight razor pulled and am glaring at you for all I'm worth in one 5'2'' ball of in-character terror.
Sweeney Todd fending off the glomp circle. Best in-character moment I've ever had. Looking back on it that was pretty epic. But still, no bueno on their part.
No bueno.
The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
Basically this "Sh**" happened to me when I was with a couple friends as Sebastian Michealis there. I decided to sit down and chill for a bit till this random fangirl screamed my character's name,and literally the whole group chased me..I ran of course and my friend yelled and told them to stop and managed to make a diversion and yes that day my feet were sore due to my dress shoes and I don't appreciate these people going on ahead and doing such stupid acts that would get them selves arrested.
There were couple con-goers who did piss me off quite a bit due to this outcome.
I'm so sorry that happened to you too. It just baffles me. I was just lucky that my costume aided me in protecting my group the second time. The first time there was really no time to think or act. :/ But I think you'd have to be an idiot to try that crap again when I've got my straight razor pulled and am glaring at you for all I'm worth in one 5'2'' ball of in-character terror.
Sweeney Todd fending off the glomp circle. Best in-character moment I've ever had. Looking back on it that was pretty epic. But still, no bueno on their part.
No bueno.
Which is why its best to just add a rule saying have only physical interaction with people you know or have approval from AT THAT TIME. If you don't follow said rule, Kumoricon is not held liable for any actions of personal defense.
The glomp circle in Pioneer Square. That's all fine and dandy if you wanna do that, but to yell out, "EVERYBODY GLOMP *INSERT CHARACTER HERE*!!!1111!!!" And then chase that person down when they're NOT EVEN IN THE CIRCLE is unacceptable.
When my Depp group and I walked into the Square for a photoshoot this happened to all of us. And our Hatter has a fragile costume, so that really pissed me off. When they tried to do it to me a second time I yelled at them to back the hell off and glared at them for all I was worth.
Seriously, how could they think it was acceptable to do that?
THAT. IS. NOT. OK.
Basically this "Sh**" happened to me when I was with a couple friends as Sebastian Michealis there. I decided to sit down and chill for a bit till this random fangirl screamed my character's name,and literally the whole group chased me..I ran of course and my friend yelled and told them to stop and managed to make a diversion and yes that day my feet were sore due to my dress shoes and I don't appreciate these people going on ahead and doing such stupid acts that would get them selves arrested.
There were couple con-goers who did piss me off quite a bit due to this outcome.
I'm so sorry that happened to you too. It just baffles me. I was just lucky that my costume aided me in protecting my group the second time. The first time there was really no time to think or act. :/ But I think you'd have to be an idiot to try that crap again when I've got my straight razor pulled and am glaring at you for all I'm worth in one 5'2'' ball of in-character terror.
Sweeney Todd fending off the glomp circle. Best in-character moment I've ever had. Looking back on it that was pretty epic. But still, no bueno on their part.
No bueno.
Which is why its best to just add a rule saying have only physical interaction with people you know or have approval from AT THAT TIME. If you don't follow said rule, Kumoricon is not held liable for any actions of personal defense.
you can add in as many reminders/ rules as you want. but there will always be some fangirl who will forget and glomp the cosplayer. its just one of the dangers of being a cosplayer. im not saying we shouldnt remind people, but just be aware that people will forget.
that seems a little extreme. but i guess it just depends on the situation. people should respect other peoples space. but being banned from the con seems a little extreme.
i guess... maybe they should have at least one warning and then they can be removed from con. your point makes sense but people should at least be forewarned that they are invading personal space.
This is true, but at the same instance, it also needs to be added in that IF you do have unwanted physical interaction with someone and its reported, with witnesses, your con-going privileges will be revoked and you will be sent home and removed/banned from that years con, or, if it needs to be done as well, banned from the next years con as well.
i can understand that. ive never done a con shoot so i wouldnt know. (not very photo friendly. i like to be the one taking photos)
This is true, but at the same instance, it also needs to be added in that IF you do have unwanted physical interaction with someone and its reported, with witnesses, your con-going privileges will be revoked and you will be sent home and removed/banned from that years con, or, if it needs to be done as well, banned from the next years con as well.
You know what? That's a good idea. Had I gotten names or badge numbers I would have reported the incident in a heartbeat. A glomp circle shouldn't be a safety hazard, and unfortunately that's what its turned into. Unwanted contact like that IS assault, and IS a crime. I think this needs to be stressed more in the con handbook or posted somewhere in the actual con space.
Just because you're a cosplayer doesn't mean you have to be subjected to unwanted and unconsented physical contact. People should be able to contain themselves, and if they can't respect common boundaries and be considerate, then they need to get kicked out of the con space. Plain and simple.
This is true, but at the same instance, it also needs to be added in that IF you do have unwanted physical interaction with someone and its reported, with witnesses, your con-going privileges will be revoked and you will be sent home and removed/banned from that years con, or, if it needs to be done as well, banned from the next years con as well.
You know what? That's a good idea. Had I gotten names or badge numbers I would have reported the incident in a heartbeat. A glomp circle shouldn't be a safety hazard, and unfortunately that's what its turned into. Unwanted contact like that IS assault, and IS a crime. I think this needs to be stressed more in the con handbook or posted somewhere in the actual con space.
Just because you're a cosplayer doesn't mean you have to be subjected to unwanted and unconsented physical contact. People should be able to contain themselves, and if they can't respect common boundaries and be considerate, then they need to get kicked out of the con space. Plain and simple.
One problem with this. Because we disallow glomp circles, they are often outside of con space. We can't really enforce rules our on people when they are offsite. We can take certain actions on attendees within con space, but our authority stops at the door.
While I understand this, there needs to be some kind of rule in place, like if you are wearing your convention badge, you are still part of, and representing Kumirocon, even if not in the hotel space. Now if they take it off and then they physically interact with someone and are injured because of it, then it becomes a problem with Portland Police and the individuals, but if they are wearing a con badge, they are still representing Kumoricon.
1 thing that bugged me.... A staff yelled at me for not having a parent when im 13... I'm just SHORT! ans then she was all your short. i felt so madah come on. you arent that short. you came up to my shoulders at least. and i didne have that issue. no staff member bugged me. i had an issue trying to find the info booth though.
yeah. maybe make it a point to train the yoji and info booth staff to politely remind people to respect people's space.
1 thing that bugged me.... A staff yelled at me for not having a parent when im 13... I'm just SHORT! ans then she was all your short. i felt so madI am sorry that a staff member yelled at you, however it can be loud. I am curious though, what color was your badge? If it was red and not yellow, that would be why.
it wasnt red nor blue it was the badge that lets you be there without a parent and i dont blame for the yelling it was pretty loud. and my birthday is before con
I WILL BE 14 NEXT CON YAY AND STILL SOOPER SHORT :Dit wasnt red nor blue it was the badge that lets you be there without a parent and i dont blame for the yelling it was pretty loud. and my birthday is before con
I'm sorry sum1 yelled as well! I'm super short (or fun-sized depending on how u look at it) and 22, and a staff person started to ask me something about it, until i turned my badge around (dunno how it had gotten turned over). It helped tho that I was dressed as Soi Fon; no one questions Soi Fon. ;) us short people just gotta fight for our rights to walk alone!
Every con needs some chibis. ^^chibi power all the way and yes linksimposter, its not worth it.
I WILL BE 14 NEXT CON YAY AND STILL SOOPER SHORT :Dit wasnt red nor blue it was the badge that lets you be there without a parent and i dont blame for the yelling it was pretty loud. and my birthday is before con
I'm sorry sum1 yelled as well! I'm super short (or fun-sized depending on how u look at it) and 22, and a staff person started to ask me something about it, until i turned my badge around (dunno how it had gotten turned over). It helped tho that I was dressed as Soi Fon; no one questions Soi Fon. ;) us short people just gotta fight for our rights to walk alone!
I love the way that was put. but when does pre reg become availibe?
Thanks :D so basically right now they are closed?I love the way that was put. but when does pre reg become availibe?
http://www.kumoricon.org/forums/index.php?topic=13835.0
^ I'm pretty sure that pre-reg is open. There were people who said that they registered for '11 during the last day of KCon '10, and I'm pretty sure I saw pre-reg forms at the mini-con.
^ Oh; my bad. Any idea when it'll be open?
^ I'm pretty sure that pre-reg is open. There were people who said that they registered for '11 during the last day of KCon '10, and I'm pretty sure I saw pre-reg forms at the mini-con.
^ I'm pretty sure that pre-reg is open. There were people who said that they registered for '11 during the last day of KCon '10, and I'm pretty sure I saw pre-reg forms at the mini-con.
Until the site rolls over, we can not have Online registration or Mail-in (apparently). But we have had registration at mini-events.
I would love to say when it will be available, but the website needs to roll over to 2011 before anything can happen.
YAY!!! Looking forward to seeing what's in store for us!Hmm Hmm agreed